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[01:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-61 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-61
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[04:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03IK8SUT-11 after 037 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK8SUT-11
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[10:14] <chris_99> I'm just wondering, with the Si4463 the schematics show you add inductors and caps on the tx/rx section, would it be possible to choose values for those, to enable transmission/reception across the whole freq. range of the chip?
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[10:22] <fl_0> DL5APR: tag
[10:23] <DL5APR> Moin Florian
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[13:04] <sq5kvs> Hi Altitude
[13:04] <sq5kvs> nothing today :(
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[13:17] <fsphil> clear skies
[13:17] <AndyEsser> french fries
[13:19] <sq5kvs> why not :)
[13:20] <fsphil> the reason potatoes where invented
[13:21] <AndyEsser> says the irishman :)
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[13:27] <fsphil> I got kicked out of that club for not liking beer
[13:28] <sq5kvs> vbeer
[13:29] <sq5kvs> fsphil: You prefer referenction or pointer to beer ?
[13:29] <sq5kvs> reference, sorry :D
[13:30] <fsphil> null pointer
[13:31] <AndyEsser> fsphil: Whiskey?
[13:31] <AndyEsser> Wine?
[13:31] <fsphil> not a fan. tried most of them once
[13:32] <AndyEsser> just not a big drinker?
[13:33] <fsphil> never have been. which sadly means I end up driving
[13:36] <gonzo_> I have the oposite prob. Always driving, so never get chance to drink
[13:37] <sq5kvs> buy a driver
[13:38] <sq5kvs> its like outsorcing :D
[13:38] <fsphil> google are working on it. drunk people rejoice
[13:38] <sq5kvs> yepa
[13:40] <sq5kvs> and, like Clarkson says, cars will decide, which will be killed, and who not
[13:41] <AndyEsser> I was the first in my friend group at school to pass my test so always ended up being the designated driver
[13:42] <AndyEsser> and until recently didn't own a car, which has meant being able to enjoy a drink or two
[13:42] <AndyEsser> but usually end up back as the designated driver now that I have a car
[13:46] <sq5kvs> Anyway
[13:46] <sq5kvs> I found that typical gps module consuming ~20 - 30mA (it depending on state)
[13:47] <sq5kvs> You found maybe something less consuming
[13:48] <sq5kvs> ?
[13:53] <craag> the ublox MAX M8Q will take ~6mA typical in power save mode.
[13:54] <gonzo_> is that at 3v3?
[13:54] <craag> M8C will do that at 1.8V
[13:54] <craag> yes 3.3 for M8Q
[13:54] <gonzo_> 10mW is not bad though
[13:54] <gonzo_> what does power save do (apart from the obvious!)
[13:55] <gonzo_> compared to the rx I started with, 120mA at 5V
[13:56] <craag> power save reduces update rate to 1Hz, and doesn't allow it to acquire any new sats.
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[13:56] <craag> So occasionally it will drop back to full power to re-acquire as sats fall out of view.
[13:57] <craag> <5 drops it out iirc?
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[13:57] <gonzo_> quite useable for us
[13:59] <sq5kvs> craag: You are right
[13:59] <craag> Yes it's suggested in the UKHAS guides to use, as it can double battery life if you're just running micro and ntx2.
[14:00] <gonzo_> commanded in the same way as flight mode?
[14:00] <craag> yes
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[14:01] <gonzo_> I must add it to my code!
[14:01] Action: AndyEsser also makes note
[14:01] <craag> Also only enable it once you've got > 5 sats, or it can stick and never get 3d lock.
[14:01] <craag> at least with the -6 generation
[14:01] <craag> This is all on the wiki I think
[14:03] <gonzo_> ta, will read
[14:03] <edmoore> and the datasheet ofc
[14:03] <edmoore> which should always trump the wiki with the force of a thousand suns
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[14:07] <sq5kvs> I found that one shop in poland selling-off the gps modules by 6USD
[14:07] <sq5kvs> of course not uBlox,
[14:10] <sq5kvs> weight of the module with antenna is ~7g, without antenna - 2g - as i discovered few months ago, ublox can find enough satellites without active antenna (i found it because I shot my active antenna :/ )
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[14:10] <daveake> I've used a 1/4 wave wire on a ublox, and it worked well enough to fly
[14:12] <sq5kvs> exacly
[14:12] Action: AndyEsser did just replace "aeroplane" with "balloon" whilst trying to feed yoghurt to baby...
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[14:13] <gonzo_> shot it? Need to take petter aim when knocking birds off the roof
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[14:15] <gonzo_> (I had a friend who lived on a farm, used to shoot the magpies off his 2mtr slim jim. One day it failed, we assumed he'd hit the coax. The shot had peeled open the folded tube element and the thing rattled with lead balls
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[14:45] <Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVuI_S-CmaI
[14:46] <chris_99> wow!
[14:48] <R34lB0rg> i'd like to see the landing
[14:48] <sq5kvs> flaying squirrel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkxNljd9IA8
[14:48] <chris_99> hehe
[14:49] <sq5kvs> R34lB0rg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5_ITt2LM0A
[14:49] <R34lB0rg> the inventor of the wingsuit
[14:49] <sq5kvs> its answer for You question about landing :D
[14:50] <R34lB0rg> and the first predator to steal the technology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMs8Cu8PNKM
[14:51] <R34lB0rg> sq5kvs, so landing a wingsuit requires lots of foam
[14:52] <chris_99> i wonder if you could have something similar to an airbag attached and land on that, although that'd probably fail disasterously
[14:52] <gonzo_> flayed?
[14:53] <gonzo_> (have seen then skinned and gutted, never flayed)
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[14:59] <R34lB0rg> chris_99, in theory it may be possible to land a wingsuit with a high speed approch pulling up over a hill
[15:00] <chris_99> hmm interesting
[15:06] <R34lB0rg> watch the water landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2xmAWS4akE
[15:07] <Vostok> R34lB0rg: you know that's a fake, right?
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[15:10] <R34lB0rg> Vostok, what is a fake?
[15:10] <Vostok> that water landing
[15:10] <R34lB0rg> Vostok, you watched the video?
[15:10] <Vostok> yes
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[15:11] <Vostok> the landing is very crude CGI and those people even did a post about why they wanted to fake a video like that
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[15:11] <Vostok> http://www.worldofwingman.com/wingman/blog/crazy-wingsuit-flight-the-truth/
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[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[16:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE2WMG-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-2
[16:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YEOTY18 after 0319 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YEOTY18
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[16:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI868 after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI868
[16:56] <fsphil> PI868, the less popular roland drum machine
[17:00] <daveake> There'll be a drum roll when it finally gets to fly
[17:01] <fsphil> weather improving at all?
[17:03] <Vaizki> My weather improved considerably by flying to Barcelona
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE2WMG-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-10
[17:03] <daveake> Launch winds are OK this week, but flight paths aren't.
[17:03] <daveake> Opposite next weekend :/
[17:03] <daveake> Friday morning might work
[17:04] <fsphil> Vaizki: that's one way of doing it
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[17:16] <Vaizki> used a good scope & signal analyzer today... MSO-S 804A and DSAZ634A
[17:16] <Vaizki> damn nice stuff :)
[17:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PISKY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY
[17:21] <Vaizki> I didn't ask how much but probably more than my house and cars combined
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[18:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03now_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=now_chase
[18:45] <fsphil> I wonder how many people realise this plots them on a map
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> good question
[18:47] <Lunar_Lander> hi btw
[18:48] <fsphil> ahoy
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[18:56] <Rebounder> fsphil: :)
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[19:02] <fsphil> what is everyone up to on this fine monday evening
[19:02] <Lunar_Lander> I soldered another ublox today and that went better than the first try
[19:02] <Lunar_Lander> and it responds :)
[19:08] <Ian_> :) it's, good news week! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4KzGKnuUuc
[19:08] <Lunar_Lander> nice :)
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[19:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL3AKB-11 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL3AKB-11
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[19:57] <Lunar_Lander> and what are you up to fsphil?
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[20:01] <fsphil> tonight I am mostly trying to make something work faster
[20:03] <Lunar_Lander> sounds good
[20:03] <Lunar_Lander> that is my goal as well
[20:04] <Lunar_Lander> want to revise our code for that (already wanted to do that before months) :)
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[20:06] <fsphil> code is always better the second time
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> true
[20:06] <Lunar_Lander> I want to try out that ublox poll mode that is in the wiki
[20:07] <daveake> s/second/n+1'th/
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> do you want to see a short videoclip from the lab?
[20:08] <fsphil> go for it
[20:08] <daveake> we thought you'd never ask
[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u--Rp_imhYs
[20:11] <fsphil> what OS is that?
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> xubuntu
[20:11] <fsphil> and what is that noise in the background
[20:12] <Lunar_Lander> good question
[20:12] <Lunar_Lander> wasn't that pronounced to my own ears tbh
[20:12] <Lunar_Lander> maybe the rain on the shutters and the wind
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[20:14] <fsphil> ah maybe
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> I was quite happy that soldering the ublox went without major accidents
[20:19] <Ian_> Sounded more like a washing machine!
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[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> above our lab there is a lecture/seminar room
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[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> and about every two hours, alternating at quarter past and quarter to, a lot of water is flowing through the sink there
[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> I assume they clean the blackboard
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[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK41z9gFtnQ
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[20:30] <fsphil> make it play a tune
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[20:36] <Lunar_Lander> :) yea
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[20:46] <Vaizki> roaming on mobile data so no videot for me :(
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> I ordered something to try out, pololu's new altimu v5, looking forward to trying it
[20:48] <Lunar_Lander> accelerometer+gyro, compass and baro
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[20:52] <gurlavie> A newbie question. I see SpacenearUS posting about new vehicles and new positions. Is this automated ? How is it done ? (Is there a FAQ I can read)
[20:53] <mfa298> gurlavie: it's a bot that looks at the same data used to plot balloons and chase vehicles on the habhub tracker
[20:54] <mfa298> so if you've done the right stuff to appear on http://tracker.habhub.org/ the SpacenearUS bot should also announce it
[20:54] <mfa298> !wiki spacenearus_bot
[20:54] <SpacenearUS> 03mfa298: No results for your query
[20:54] <mfa298> !hep
[20:54] <SpacenearUS> 03mfa298: Here you go: 12https://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
[20:55] <mfa298> gurlavie: that link should tell you about the bot
[20:55] <mfa298> shush zeusbot
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[21:10] <gurlavie> Tax!
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[22:05] <edmoore> gurlavie: zuesbot is also a bot
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[23:24] <Oddstr13> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4306267/ShareX/2016/02/cube_1in9_ATmega328PB.svg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4306267/ShareX/2016/02/cube_1in9_ATmega328PB-brd.svg
[23:24] <Oddstr13> Any comments / sugestions?
[23:25] <mattbrejza> your vias seem way to small
[23:27] <Oddstr13> KiCad default, 0.6/0.4
[23:28] <Oddstr13> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4306267/ShareX/2016/02/2016-02-23_00-26-42.png screenshot of the board in Pcbnew
[23:30] <mattbrejza> hmm i have .8/.4mm in kicad
[23:30] <mattbrejza> it might just be that youre traces are thicker and it looks like thte vias are smalelr
[23:31] <Oddstr13> might be
[23:31] <Oddstr13> 0.4 track width on the signals
[23:31] <Oddstr13> widest that I still can route between the .1" header pins
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[23:36] <Oddstr13> anything else that looks off?
[23:37] <Lunar_Lander> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/china-pressing-ahead-with-orbiter-and-lander-mission-to-mars/ interesting
[23:38] <Oddstr13> looks kinda a little like wall-e
[23:40] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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