highaltitude.log.20160109

[00:03] <Vaizki> hmpf we just get a boring table with 202 pages
[00:05] <Vaizki> but off to sleep it is&
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[11:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DM3FB after 035 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DM3FB
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[14:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-57 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-57
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[14:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WD9HFT-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WD9HFT-11
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[15:00] <SM0ULC-Reb> Quite some time since a whole day of silence
[15:03] <Ian_> :)
[15:06] <fsphil> WAAP
[15:06] <fsphil> was too busy having lunch
[15:06] <fsphil> now too busy digesting lunch
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[17:45] <eroomde> SM0ULC-Reb: i had some friends come for 'lunch'. they just left
[17:45] <eroomde> that sort of 4hr lunch
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[19:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[19:09] <SM0ULC-Reb> :)
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[19:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PF10 UTH _chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PF10%20UTH%20_chase
[19:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SD51 NGF_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SD51%20NGF_chase
[19:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[19:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
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[19:54] <adamgreig> anyone got any preferred low-profile small-pitch connectors good to 1-2A sort of thing?
[19:55] <adamgreig> ideally with retention but that might be asking a bit much
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[20:05] <russss> adamgreig: I like the JST ones
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[20:06] <adamgreig> which JST ones?
[20:06] <adamgreig> (there are a _lot_ of JST connectors)
[20:06] <russss> XH or PH
[20:06] <russss> I'm glad I made this wiki page now https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/JST_Connectors
[20:07] <russss> XH is imperial pitch and PH is 2mm pitch
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> cool :)
[20:08] <adamgreig> PH surface mount side-entry is 5.5mm tall which is OK but not much better than JST PA which is 5.7mm and has a locking pin
[20:09] <adamgreig> jst pa is really nice
[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> what's your max height?
[20:09] <adamgreig> dunno really yet. "as small as reasonable" is mostly the goal
[20:09] <adamgreig> which is unhelpful I realise!
[20:09] <eroomde> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdAyO1_0noM
[20:10] <eroomde> i wish this to be our company telephone hold music
[20:10] <russss> ah, I will note the pa and add it to that wiki page
[20:10] <adamgreig> picoblade is 3.5mm tall which is a chunk better
[20:11] <adamgreig> but i don't have any picoblade kit otherwise and it's only good to 1A
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[20:11] <adamgreig> PH is the one on lots of lipos and stuff right?
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> I like the phoenix contact screw terminals
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> but they are 10 mm high
[20:11] <adamgreig> uhm
[20:11] <adamgreig> they're not
[20:11] <adamgreig> like 5mm high
[20:12] <adamgreig> measuring one right here :p
[20:12] <adamgreig> it being super common and readily available as a ponytail might be more advantageous than any other option
[20:13] <Lunar_Lander> I meant the screw terminals
[20:13] <eroomde> i had to get 5A out of something really slow profile for $JOB recently
[20:13] <adamgreig> Lunar_Lander: ooh right, yea. they are convenient for sticking things into but pretty tall
[20:14] <eroomde> solution was ultra low profile samtec ribbon connector with multiple ribbon wires per high current channel
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[20:14] <eroomde> about 2mm high
[20:14] <adamgreig> neat
[20:14] <Lunar_Lander> nice :)
[20:14] <adamgreig> did you use the samtec picture search?
[20:14] <eroomde> i have their catalogue
[20:14] <eroomde> from the rep
[20:15] <adamgreig> i guess a catalogue is a bit like a picture search
[20:15] <SpeedEvil> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Universal-2-4A-Magnetic-Micro-USB-Charging-Charger-Data-Cable-for-Android-For-SAMSUNG-for-LG/32570626219.html - on a sort-of-related topic
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> This is almost awesome.
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> - the USB connector is slightly larger than spec in width, so won't quite fit some devices.
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> And the other sidehas the pogo pins slightly too far out, so they can touch a flat surface
[20:18] <eroomde> adamgreig: yes you're right
[20:18] <eroomde> so yes, picture search
[20:18] <eroomde> same reason i can;t function sans rs paper catalogue
[20:18] <SpeedEvil> Parametric search is awesome.
[20:18] <SpeedEvil> If you magically know what all the parameters mean
[20:18] <SpeedEvil> and everything makes sense
[20:19] <SpeedEvil> Connectors - not so much
[20:20] <fox123> Please knows someone frequency and mode for DM3FB
[20:21] <eroomde> periodic reposting of this, which is a pleasingly gungho approach to rocket testing and keeps the flame alive in me for pockets of nasa being able to do fun stuff
[20:21] <eroomde> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQCgs6Upu_E
[20:21] <eroomde> +10 metalica points too
[20:21] <eroomde> arko: have you met mike meacham?
[20:21] <eroomde> parachute testing not rocket testing sorry
[20:28] <fox123> Please knows someone frequency and mode for DM3FB
[20:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> fox123: probably a wx sonde migrated to habhub tracker
[20:33] <SpeedEvil> NACA did lots of good work
[20:34] <SpeedEvil> NASA got increasingly poisoned by money
[20:34] <SpeedEvil> And being welfare.
[20:35] <arko> at jpl?
[20:35] <eroomde> yes
[20:35] <eroomde> he worked with tom quite a lot
[20:35] <arko> name isnt familiar
[20:35] <arko> ah man
[20:35] <arko> thats awesome
[20:35] <eroomde> he's the face in a lot of the ldsd outreach videos now
[20:35] <eroomde> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h1NtQJ59kM
[20:36] <eroomde> this guy
[20:37] <eroomde> and guy on right http://i.imgur.com/KdMq4.jpg
[20:37] <fox123> Mike thanks for info
[20:37] <Lunar_Lander> is it feasible to make oneselves a tabletop wind tunnel?
[20:38] <arko> eroomde: ohh!!!
[20:38] <arko> i see him at the cafeteria alll the time
[20:38] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: for what sort of speed and cross section
[20:39] <eroomde> he's a really nice guy
[20:39] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: low speed small wind tunnels are 'easy'
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~gerry/class/ME449/lectures/pdf/flowRateSlides_2up.pdf I was looking at the experiment on pg. 5
[20:40] <arko> yeah, hes doing the Crazy Engineering JPL youtube series
[20:40] <arko> id like to meet him some day
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> or 7
[20:40] <arko> i see him, Ian, and Mark all the time, but none of them know me
[20:40] <Lunar_Lander> and yea, that is not really a wind tunnel
[20:41] <eroomde> say hello maybe!
[20:46] <Lunar_Lander> because we now have one of those Pentium III fans on the balloon and I came across that PDF when looking how to characterize fans+
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: there is of course sometimes the alternate method.
[20:51] <arko> eroomde: if i can grow a pair, i will
[20:51] <arko> :P
[20:51] <SpeedEvil> Google the number on the back of the fan
[20:52] <Lunar_Lander> did that already, there are no datasheets unfortunately
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[21:25] <SpeedEvil> Unless you care about exact curves, RPM, rough shape of fan, will get you it to 50%
[21:26] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[21:26] <SpeedEvil> - comparing with random fans from papst etal
[21:27] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> SpeedEvil, I think it worked
[21:44] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> I found a 2006 sanyo catalogue and they had an air flow chart for fan sizes
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[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> found a model with about same size as the one from the PIII and it says 0.15 m³/min, then looked at ebm-papst for a similar model and the flow rate matches
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
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[22:11] <RealBorg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lehHilNad3A <- somehow a predecessor to CERN
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