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[07:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> michal_f Yes I?m using sondemonitor reguarly
[08:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> have a look 20 minutes in, in this program, nice balloon filling equipment http://www.svtplay.se/video/5061838/bjornon/bjornon-sasong-1-avsnitt-6
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[10:18] <michal_f> SA6BSS-Mike: It has an option to export KML file
[10:18] <michal_f> however I'm having weird display problems with that file, large parts of globe disappear from viewport
[10:19] <michal_f> did you experience smth. similar ?
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[11:41] <SA6BSS-Mike> u mean when you using google maps to display tha balloon
[11:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> so yes I do have some problem from time to time that as soon you start to zoom in it starts to behave strange, looks like you refresh a webpage verry rapidly
[11:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have made a clean install of win10 and so far I have not sean it.
[11:44] <michal_f> I'm using google earth standalone
[11:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes me to
[11:44] <michal_f> not through webpage
[11:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> checking google eart live G-E server option
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[11:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> in sondemonitor
[11:46] <michal_f> it's enabled and I can see balloon flying nice, but zooming IN makes display go funny
[11:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> it only looks like you refresh a webpage, Im not on a webpage :)
[11:46] <michal_f> If I disable 'subsonde' display in KML it;s ok, but it re-enables on next refresh after 4 secs
[11:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> exactly, but only like one out of 3 or four
[11:47] <michal_f> oh anyway, thanks :)
[11:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> well, its been windy latly so I have only tracked two balloons last month (after install of w10) and non of them have behaved stranged
[11:49] <Vaizki> I should try sondemonitor some time...
[11:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeap, its fun
[11:49] <Vaizki> I guess it can track our Finnish ones too.. I assume they are Vaisala ones :)
[11:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> you can start listening in about 45-55 minutes and you can see several balloons
[11:50] <Vaizki> hmm what freq?
[11:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> I can listen to a couple from nortgh germany, poland norway and Gotlands
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> Gotland
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> they are 402 - 405.6
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> the one I can hear
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> gotlans is 403Mhz
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> Gotland*
[11:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> using sdr-console, fm mode no filter no deamphsis
[11:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> 10Khz bw
[11:52] <michal_f> I'm based at Warsaw, and twice a day a sonde is passing near me :)
[11:52] <michal_f> vaisala
[11:53] <SA6BSS-Mike> nice, vaisala here to, they only send them up at night here, Going up from Landvetter airport near Gothenburg
[11:59] <Vostok> vaisala, vaisala everywhere
[12:01] <Vaizki> ok found interesting signals on 402, 403 and 404.7
[12:01] <Vaizki> recording all of them :)
[12:04] <Vaizki> http://i.imgur.com/1Hi9CAQ.jpg
[12:04] <Vaizki> any of those look right?
[12:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> here is a good source for rinex (gps file) for sonde monitor, works, get about 30m error using this one ftp://igs.bkg.bund.de/EUREF/BRDC/2015/
[12:06] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep, looks good,
[12:06] <Vaizki> which one? or all?
[12:06] <Vaizki> found one more..
[12:07] <SA6BSS-Mike> 402 one a least, probably the others as well, but it looks kinda shopped on/off
[12:08] <Vaizki> shopped?
[12:10] <Vaizki> oh you mean chopped? so it's supposed to be a continuous stream=
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[12:11] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes
[12:12] <Vaizki> hmm strange
[12:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> im on remote but I culd get a screenshot ow one sonde, not he best signal as the yagi pointing wrong
[12:13] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://imgur.com/dhVwz9t
[12:13] <Vaizki> I can see lots of continuous signals too but fainter
[12:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, listen on youtube how a vaisala rs92 I think its nae is and you will know if its the right one
[12:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> the are changing for a new vaisala so it can be the new one you hear
[12:14] <Vostok> i just had a look at the RS92 production line :)
[12:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> back to work
[12:14] <Vostok> an hour ago
[12:15] <michal_f> thanks SA6BSS-Mike
[12:18] <Vaizki> Vostok, so which ones are used in Finland? :)
[12:18] <Vaizki> RS92 I am assuming
[12:19] <Vostok> don't know really
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[14:53] <Chimpusmaximus> daveake: replied to your email. I might be able to help with a mobile gateway out close to predicted landing. Just depends if work gets in the way tomorrow.
[14:53] <daveake> cheers, that'd be very useful
[14:53] <daveake> There's also an RTTY flight from here tomorrow, but not mine
[14:54] <Chimpusmaximus> I guess it might be later rather than earlier looking at prediction and Standsted?
[14:55] <daveake> It's tricky as the win gets up later
[14:55] <daveake> wind
[14:55] <daveake> lose too
[14:55] <daveake> I might have to cancel, or do a different (shorter) flight, but I'll see tomorrow
[14:56] <daveake> I can send it further east just by getting it higher, but really I'd like it to be further north
[14:56] <Chimpusmaximus> fair enough. i'll keep an eye on here and have stuff setup just in case. Don't take much to get gateway and connection sorted
[14:57] <Chimpusmaximus> Even if i left after you launch should have plenty time to get close to landing site
[14:58] <daveake> cool
[14:59] <daveake> My issue, apart from it being a long distance on a Friday, is that it'll be much more convenient to do the uploading from here rather than in the chase car
[14:59] <Chimpusmaximus> is the other the star wars one?
[14:59] <daveake> yes
[14:59] <Chimpusmaximus> might charge the tablet then for decoding
[15:00] <number10> what are you using upload for daveake ?
[15:00] <daveake> Pi + LoRa module
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[15:18] <PrjHeT> Afternoon all. I've just submitted a flight document for tomorrow.
[15:19] <PrjHeT> How do I go about getting it OK'd again!?
[15:19] <daveake> Get ye hence to #habhub
[15:19] <daveake> and post the doc ID
[15:22] <PrjHeT> Then post it here?
[15:22] <PrjHeT> adc1dfb059610c11f8f15a2a4168c60e
[15:23] <daveake> in #habhub
[15:23] <PrjHeT> Ah...
[15:23] <PrjHeT> I hate being such a n00b :*)
[15:25] <eroomde> it's a town you have to walk through to get anywhere
[15:25] <eroomde> like the cold, lonely and open desert of Apprently Knowing What You're Doing
[15:27] <PrjHeT> Not approved. I used the same payload config as in April. I'm guessing that's wrong?
[15:28] <PrjHeT> C60e not approved
[15:28] <craag> yep, so getting approval is this step
[15:29] <craag> if otherwise it looks great, ask for an admin to approve it
[15:33] <PrjHeT> Not approved again (this time with a new payload config)
[15:33] <craag> They won't be approved until you ask an admin to approve it
[15:33] <craag> which is the "getting it OK'ed" step
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[15:34] <PrjHeT> Oh, sorry I thought it was all automated and they step in if it doesn't work.
[15:34] <PrjHeT> Do admins hang out in here?
[15:37] <gonzo_> only if they have drassed carelessly
[15:37] <gonzo_> dressed
[15:38] <eroomde> PrjHeT: go to habhub and do this there
[15:39] <PrjHeT> Will do, thanks
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[16:25] <fab4space> hello all
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[18:55] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> something is wrong
[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> I start making errors when working
[19:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KZN-mobile_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KZN-mobile_chase
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[19:31] <crow_> evening everyone, where should I go to get info on configuring dl-fldigi to listen to a payload? Ive located the payload on sdr# but Im having trouble getting anything to appear on the dl-fldigi waterfall
[19:32] <daveake> Do you have the SDR s/w set to USB mod?
[19:33] <daveake> Do you have the SDR s/w audio output going to a virtual audio cable? And if so is dl-fldigi listening to the same audio cable?
[19:33] <crow_> output from sdr set to [mme] line 1 (virtual audio cable)
[19:35] <daveake> If all looks OK but dl-fldigi is not seeing anything, I suggest you send the sdr o/p to the speakers and then tune in so you can hear the signal
[19:35] <daveake> then switch back to the virtual channel
[19:35] <crow_> Heres the thing, when it was set to radio 4 outputting to the speakers I could hear it. Then I tuned to the payload and I could clearly "see" it on the waterfall but there was no sound
[19:36] <daveake> radio 4 is FM
[19:36] <crow_> ahhh.... thats your usb comment re: sdr
[19:36] <daveake> Payload needs USB
[19:36] <daveake> yes, first comment ...
[19:36] <crow_> apologies for idiocy
[19:37] <crow_> working though all that now
[19:37] <crow_> many thanks
[19:37] <daveake> cool
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[19:46] <Ian_> Lunar_Lander if you are starting to make errors while working, then maybe you need a snack! You may have used up your daily brain energy ration and need to feed it again!
[19:46] <Ian_> Bacon sandwich and a half litre, or so, of what you fancy will do you good! :)
[19:46] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> had a talk this afternoon which went good
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> and I indeed was a bit low on nutrition
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> when I sat down and connected an ublox to a power supply that was still at 8.2V
[19:47] <Lunar_Lander> that wasn't nice
[19:49] <eroomde> that will be bad for it
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> now it draws 1.5A
[19:51] <Lunar_Lander> I was sad
[19:55] <crow_> OK, I think I'm making progress. I now have a waterfall in dl-fldigi. How should I optimise my SDR settings to optimise what dl-fldigi sees?
[19:58] <crow_> I've zoomed in in SDR# and in the top graph I can see a red line offset t the left of my signal with a grey box extending to the right, in which my signal sits. dl-fldigi does kinda see this, but the resolution doesnt seem too good
[20:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Crow_ are you aware of the wiki ? https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide
[20:06] <crow_> much appreciated, perusing now
[20:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Do take the other links to SDR and SSB etc. there is a lot you need to understand, but once you have some concepts under the belt all may start to come clear ;_0
[20:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> or not ;-)
[20:18] <crow_> thanks for the encouragement
[20:18] <crow_> ;-)
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[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> word of advice
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> don't declare your temperature values as unsigned ints
[20:31] <chris_99> is there a list of flights upcoming on a website somewhere? i just got an rtlsdr, so want to have a go listening with it :)
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[20:35] <daveake> Also there's an iCal feed
[20:37] <chris_99> oh neat, cheers
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[20:38] <chris_99> oh you're launching one tommorow :)
[20:39] <daveake> maybe
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[20:46] <crow_> I am still drawing a blank on decoding the payload tranmission using dl-fldigi. I'm following a mishmash of pi-in-the-sky.com & ukhas.org.uk. I've located the transmission with sdr#, got a waterfall on dl-fldigi [there are quite a few bands with two thick ones]. I believe Ive told dl-fldigi the right offset, baud rate etc. Is it the case that should just be able to click between the two bands and see by data appear as text .... o
[20:47] <eroomde> screenshot
[20:47] <daveake> yes, though if you have a camera connected then the image data will appear as gobledegook not readable text
[20:48] <daveake> as ed says, screenshot please
[20:48] <crow_> Ive disabled the camera
[20:48] <crow_> [heres where i sound like an idiot] how do i post an image on irc?
[20:49] <daveake> upload to imgur and post the url
[20:49] <eroomde> imgur.com, click on the upoad button
[20:49] <eroomde> then post the resukting url
[20:49] <crow_> ok... thanks
[20:49] <chris_99> has anyone tried the rtlstrangelove lora demodulator?
[20:50] <chris_99> *sdrangelove even
[20:57] <crow_> http://imgur.com/ReGwdqv
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[21:03] <daveake> Try clicking the Rv button in dl-fldigi
[21:04] <crow_> done, but no change
[21:05] <daveake> In dl-fldigi do you have 300 baud, 8 bits, no parity, 2 stop bits ?
[21:06] <crow_> Just double checked: Yes. Carrier shift set to 600
[21:07] <daveake> looks a bit more like 700 but should decode anyway
[21:07] <crow_> Yes, I agree 600 seems a bit too narrow
[21:12] <crow_> set to 700, still no joy
[21:17] <crow_> OK
[21:17] <crow_> genuinely odd behavoir.
[21:18] <crow_> My laptop battery was getting low so I plugged it in... boom. The decoding suddenly started working
[21:18] <crow_> unplugged: gibberish again
[21:18] <crow_> replugged: legit data
[21:19] <crow_> why on earth would that be?!
[21:20] <eroomde> that is very strange!
[21:21] <eroomde> i wonder if there's some interference that earthing has helped with?
[21:21] <eroomde> in your sound card i mean
[21:21] <eroomde> (just guessing here)
[21:22] <crow_> Its quite clear in the dlfldigi waterfall that pluggin in really cleans up the signal
[21:23] <crow_> quite dramaticly actually
[21:23] <daveake> that's a new one
[21:23] <Lunar_Lander> strange
[21:23] <crow_> I wonder if its power supply to the USB dongle?
[21:24] <daveake> no sounds card eroomde this is a VAC from SDR Sharp
[21:24] <eroomde> daveake: apols
[21:24] <crow_> its completely reproducible, ive unplugged, replugged x10 times now. Always the same result
[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> well
[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> door meten tot weten
[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> (through measurement to knowledge)
[21:25] <Lunar_Lander> would be nice to know the voltages
[21:25] <daveake> does it change immediately you connect the charger, or after a couple of seconds or so ?
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[21:26] <crow_> seems to be 1-2 seconds
[21:27] <daveake> OK, I wonder if the laptop is doing some power-saving that's affecting things
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[21:28] <daveake> Is there a power manager applet that you can play with?
[21:28] <crow_> There is
[21:28] <daveake> try that
[21:28] <daveake> I'd start with the cpu speed :)
[21:29] <crow_> OK, I've gotta go pick the wife up from the train station now. You guys have been really helpful [again, 3rd night in a row now]! Thanks to all of you for enduring all my questions and being so patient and helpful
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[21:41] <Vaizki> everyone should own an oscilloscope for situations like crow's .. :)
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[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> yea :)
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> hi DL1SGP
[21:43] <Vaizki> besides, oscilloscopes are addicting
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> indeed
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> however I was a bit irritated about my DS1054Z being slow
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> but then I thought, when one division is 200ms, the whole screen will need 2 sec to update, so that should be OK
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[21:45] <Vaizki> so it was just slow because of the timebase?
[21:45] <Vaizki> and nothing wrong with it?
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> yea
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[22:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03n5xul_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=n5xul_chase
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