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[00:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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[01:10] <Laurenceb> http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2015/PP-40-15.PDF
[01:10] <Laurenceb> this looks legit
[01:11] <Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_in_Physics
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[01:42] <SpeedEvil> Impact factor -9000
[01:45] <Laurenceb> on a related note
[01:45] <Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFAJ-1
[01:45] <Laurenceb> GFAJ stands for "Give Felisa a Job" almost as if it was a massive troll
[01:45] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[01:46] <SpeedEvil> That was always dodgy
[01:47] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25580451 (unrelated)
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[13:57] <chris_99> http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2015/11/blue-origin-sticks-rocket-landing-a-major-step-toward-reusable-spaceflight/
[14:00] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm.
[14:01] Action: LazyLeopard can hear the gears driving the news-spin-wheels there...
[14:05] <craag> there's a small difference between the 100km that these guys got to, and the 100km that falcon 9 gets to
[14:05] <craag> (and then has to land from)
[14:07] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, just a bit...
[14:07] <eroomde> there's a big difference KE-wise
[14:07] <eroomde> remember that 100km is where the BE booster peaks at with a velocity of zero
[14:08] <eroomde> whereas the falcon 9 first stage is doing about mach10 at the point where it separates and you want to start bringing it back
[14:08] <LazyLeopard> ...and the SpaceX one is going a bit faster.
[14:08] <craag> exactly
[14:08] <mattbrejza> does the bottom bit even get to 100km or detach beforehand?
[14:08] <craag> also a bit heavier lol
[14:09] <LazyLeopard> The Blue Origin thing is in Spaceship One / Virgin Galactic territory.
[14:10] <eroomde> but it has done what they have done with enormously less fuss
[14:10] <eroomde> which is nice
[14:10] <eroomde> no idea what the relative costs are
[14:10] <craag> tis basically a spacex grasshopper with a larger fuel tank :P
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[15:07] <Laurenceb> https://www.blueorigin.com/news#youtube9pillaOxGCo
[15:12] <eroomde> Laurenceb: let's play a game
[15:12] <eroomde> given this channel, what do you think are the chances that you're:
[15:12] <eroomde> 1) the first person to post this
[15:13] <eroomde> 2) the 476th
[15:13] <chris_99> heh
[15:15] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
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[15:56] <SM0ULC-Reb> eroomde: how do blue origin compare against normal souding rockets?
[15:58] <russss> they are larger, more phallic, and more reusable.
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[16:02] <chris_99> so dumb question, when that rocket re-entered earth, would it tilt, so the nose cone is pointing earth? then 'flip around' when it's closer to the ground
[16:02] <Laurenceb> lulwut http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2014/11/09/interstellar-and-the-death-of-the-penis
[16:04] <SM0ULC-Reb> russss: right. i wonders a bit when they can compete moneywise per launch
[16:06] <russss> chris_99: not needed for a suborbital stage as it's not going terribly fast compared to the atmosphere so you don't need to worry so much about drag. It's a similar situation to the falcon 9 first stage (which also comes back to earth "backwards")
[16:07] <chris_99> aha, cheers russss
[16:08] <eroomde> chris_99: also the node cone/capsult is detached
[16:08] <eroomde> gosh good typing
[16:08] <eroomde> nose-cone/capsule*
[16:08] <chris_99> ah yeah i though that was interesting
[16:08] <chris_99> why does it lose the nose
[16:09] <eroomde> because that has people in
[16:09] <chris_99> how do they get back down?
[16:09] <eroomde> parachute
[16:10] <eroomde> it's in the video
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[17:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AA0WD-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AA0WD-11
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[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[19:17] <fsphil> it certainly is
[19:18] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> today tried this sketch on a mega 2560, but replaced softserial with serial1
[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> http://robotic-controls.com/learn/sensors/linksprite-jpeg-camera/saving-images-sd-card-0
[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> worked well
[19:19] <Lunar_Lander> I was really surprised
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[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> blue origin won
[20:21] <eroomde> won what?
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> the run for landing a rocket stage safely
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[20:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UON1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UON1
[20:41] <fsphil> lots of people have done that. it's just a game of one-upping the other now with altitude
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[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:45] <Lunar_Lander> delta clipper
[20:46] <MikeUoN> evening :)
[20:46] <fsphil> still mighty impressive
[20:46] <fsphil> ahoy MikeUoN
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander> hi :)
[20:48] <MikeUoN> long time no see
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[21:03] <Upu> 2170hvkE
[21:04] <Upu> bloody windows focus
[21:05] <fsphil> who knew microsoft liked to share
[21:06] <fsphil> it's even worse when you have a few VMs opened, and it looks like a few different windows all have focus
[21:06] <Upu> second time today I've had to reset my password
[21:06] <fsphil> at least it was a good one
[21:07] <Upu> 8 chars probably about three days on a GEForce Cracking rig :)
[21:15] <mfa298> at least you're getting well practiced at resetting it.
[21:16] <mfa298> challenge is remembering the places you've used that password, or at least that's what I found the other week when I did the same
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[22:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BEAR13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BEAR13
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[23:49] <Lunar_Lander> good night :)
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