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[06:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[06:31] <mbales_> upu any chance youre around?
[06:36] <Upu> bit early isn't it ?
[06:53] <mbales_> probably
[06:53] <mbales_> not where i am of course
[06:53] <mbales_> bit late for me
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[07:13] <mbales_> anyways if you happen to be around in the next half hour let me know
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[07:55] <mbales> 7Ax@
[07:55] <UpuWork> Here now mbales
[07:55] <mbales> hazzah
[07:56] <mbales> how goes it?
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[08:03] <mbales> well anyways im doing the tracksoar boards in much smaller batches than i wanted to and i wanted to see about order 50 or so ublox max-m8q's
[08:09] <mbales> also ignore the last 4 characters of my password
[08:18] <UpuWork> lets take this to a PM
[08:19] <mbales> roger
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[08:28] <LunarWork> hello
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[08:35] <LunarWork> that time when you read a paper about a 300 g ozone measuring instrument and then find that it needs a 500g battery in addition
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[09:57] <MarkIreland> Hi guys - Anyone with experience of using a Hero 4 Silver - specifically battery life at high altitude? I have used a Hero 2 with additional battery pack which was fine, but this time was wondering whether I could do without that extra battery backpac on the 4 Silver
[09:57] <daveake> yeah I've donw 1 flight with it
[09:58] <MarkIreland> Did you capture the landing?
[09:58] <daveake> No my SD card wasn't quite big enough :/
[09:58] <MarkIreland> Ah ok, but the battery still had life left?
[09:58] <daveake> data rate is higher than on the 2/3 even at the same settings
[09:59] <daveake> yes, with backpac
[09:59] <MarkIreland> Ok cool thanks Dave
[10:00] <daveake> The camera was a late addition and I only needed the upward segment anyway, so didn't test the run time with the 32GB card
[10:00] <daveake> Image quality is excellent; much better than the earlier models
[10:01] <MarkIreland> Yeah I have noticed way bigger file sizes. I guess I could rig some external power via the usb rather than get the backpac
[10:01] <daveake> yep
[10:01] <daveake> Don't do what a customer did (they supplied the cameras) .... they had the gopros set to "overwrite when SD is full"
[10:02] <daveake> The thing landed in a tree and the external battery kept the cameras recording into the night
[10:02] <daveake> So all we got was black :/
[10:02] <MarkIreland> Ha wow that is a mistake you only make once
[10:02] <daveake> I'd never even heard of the setting
[10:03] <daveake> So was a tad confused when I saw the videos
[10:03] <MarkIreland> I guess you might use a setting like that when you just want the last few hours, maybe in CCTV senario or something
[10:03] <MarkIreland> But not a wonderful hab flight
[10:04] <daveake> indeed
[10:04] <daveake> cctv or car dashcam for instance
[10:05] <daveake> anyway it was only a test flight so nothing lost
[10:05] <MarkIreland> Course yeah. The latest BMWs have a proper in-car interface to GoPros when used as a dashcam.
[10:05] <MarkIreland> Ok thanks for the help Dave, back soon
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[10:06] <gonzo_> in VW's, the interface will detect the cam, then falsify the picture, so it looks sunny all the time
[10:06] <craag> lol
[10:06] <daveake> lol
[10:07] <craag> I thought they only did that when the OCR can read 'Dealership' in the picture?
[10:07] <daveake> And Audis fake that the indicators are used
[10:08] <gonzo_> and increase the distance between it and the car in front
[10:08] <mfa298> and white vans fake the distance to the car in front
[10:08] <gonzo_> snap
[10:09] <gonzo_> do I win that hand?
[10:09] <mfa298> I think that actually applies to BMW, Audi and white vans as well as some mercedes around here
[10:10] <RealBorg> I go 15km on 3c electrical charge - I'd say the automotive industry is doomed
[10:11] <RealBorg> so doomed that faking data ain't gonna help them
[10:12] <mfa298> no doubt they'll also fake cars travelling in the left hand lane on the motorway (thats the slow lane for those that drive on the wrong side of the road).
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[10:14] <RealBorg> I wonder when "faking" has become socially acceptable practice
[10:15] <RealBorg> first the banking institutions, now the automotive industry
[10:15] <mfa298> didn't it start with photoshop
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[10:26] <gonzo_> it happens absolutly everywhere
[10:28] <gonzo_> where ever any approvals, documentation, certification is involved.
[10:31] <gonzo_> people in the companies/industry just convince eachother that it's ok and it's how everyone does it and managers pressure people into it. And upper management carefully pretend they know nothing about it. Then it gets out and companies are in the poo and banks collapse. And some lowly employees get used as skapegoats
[10:31] <gonzo_> </rant?
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[11:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ok1rpl-11_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ok1rpl-11_chase
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[11:51] <ok1jra> hi all.. i see some weather radiosondes tracked on HAbhub... is any SW to import data from Sondemonitor to habhubtracker? Or APRS ballon callsign data to habhub?
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[12:20] <SA6BSS> ok1jra: there is a script that import the wheter balloons to aprs.fi and from there habhub automaticly imports the to habhub-map
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[12:22] <craag> I believe it *tries* to avoid the sondes though
[12:22] <craag> as there's lots of them, it clogs the map, and they aren't as interesting as amateur flights
[12:23] <craag> There was talk of another map dedicated for sondes
[12:25] <ok1jra> SA6BSS: OK I track radiosonde via OK1RPL-10 to APRS.fi but no idea how to do to habhub map...
[12:28] <ok1jra> craag: arent interesting?...may be...but some radiosonde have interesting components and radiosonde hunting is nice hobby ideal practice for HAB amateur team...
[12:28] <chris_99> radiosondes don't have GPS do they?
[12:28] <craag> I said "aren't *as* interesting" ;)
[12:29] <craag> all but the latest and greatest don't chris_99
[12:29] <fsphil> they have incomplete GPS
[12:29] <chris_99> incomplete?
[12:29] <fsphil> they have GPS receivers, and transmit down some data on the signals
[12:30] <fsphil> but the calculations are down on the ground
[12:30] <chris_99> ah
[12:30] <ok1jra> DFM06 have very interesting GPS module ...."complet"
[12:31] <ok1jra> Vaisala radiosondes have nice amplifier and Helix antenna...
[12:32] <ok1jra> DFM06 hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbTWJWpq__M
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[12:33] <ok1jra> DFM06 GPS mouse : http://zauberkopf.com/20130420_dfm06umbau/
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[12:36] <ok1jra> Graw radiosondes is very nice piece of equipment...
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[12:37] <Vostok_> pfft, graw
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[13:04] <Guest5402> hello room, some progressed since my last visit. http://www.hab360.space please let me know your opinions, James Oxford
[13:05] <chris_99> cool, how much is the cost of the payload out of interest
[13:06] <chris_99> as that's a lot of cameras
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[13:07] <Guest5402> opting for the 6 camera option so less than 1500g
[13:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE5BNC_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE5BNC_chase
[13:18] <chris_99> sorry i mean in terms of price
[13:18] <Guest5402> too much! around 2k
[13:21] <chris_99> eek
[13:21] <chris_99> hopefully it gets recovered then!
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[13:39] <Guest5402> exactly chris
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[14:04] <daveake> Miht be useful ... Google Maps on Android now supports offline mapping http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34770966
[14:04] <daveake> ^ g
[14:05] <gonzo_> didn't the preveios versio n do that?
[14:05] <gonzo_> previous
[14:05] <mattbrejza> not with direections..?
[14:05] <daveake> yeah they removed offline mapping a while back
[14:06] <fab4space> Owners cannot switch to a satellite view, and while the app provides driving directions, it will not offer walking or public transport-based routes.
[14:06] <gonzo_> ah, quite poss. I did try downloading maps when I moived to a new phone
[14:06] <mattbrejza> its always been caching though so it seems as if it has had offline mapping
[14:06] <daveake> yeah this seems to just be a download into the cache
[14:06] <gonzo_> thouygh I must be going daft and could not find how.
[14:07] <gonzo_> why would you want a map system that only works when you are in a built up area with internet coverage?!
[14:08] <fsphil> london
[14:08] <gonzo_> hmmm, all the search data will add lots opf bloat
[14:08] <mattbrejza> most areas have internet coverage these days?
[14:09] <gonzo_> london had road signs
[14:09] <fsphil> not between towns
[14:09] <gonzo_> when on some unmarked country road, that is when I need maps
[14:12] <mattbrejza> i think if you ask google to direct you somewhere itll cache the entire route
[14:13] <gonzo_> assumes a lot of data allowance on your phone
[14:14] <gonzo_> (ok, I rarely used 5% of mine)
[14:14] <mattbrejza> well youll have to download the entire route at some point so why not at teh start
[14:14] <gonzo_> think of all that bandwidth that could outherwise be used for pictures of cats!
[14:15] <mattbrejza> it might not download all the detail, but i guess enough to tell you where to turn
[14:15] <gonzo_> I tend to only trun mapping on when really lost
[14:15] <mattbrejza> at which point lol, no coverage for you
[14:16] <gonzo_> yep, that about summs it up
[14:16] <gonzo_> ended up breaking out the OS map and us the gps on the phone
[14:17] <gonzo_> last time I was lost
[14:18] <mattbrejza> hmm the only time i can think of when i might have got lost is hab tracking, in which case i have my app open which uses osm maps
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[14:35] <gonzo_> I get lost every time to go up to shropshire to do the visiting rounds
[14:36] <gonzo_> but because I get lost every time, and only go up a few times a year. I can never remember if the landmarks are the things I want to see, or indicate that I've got lost here... again
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[16:48] <Ian_> Pre satnav I got totally lost going to a friend's in Darlaston. Subsequent visits were just as bad as I remembered all the wrong places and visited them regularly. Hail satnav :)
[17:01] <fsphil> I got lost between an underground station and my hotel in london once
[17:01] <fsphil> was no fun at all
[17:01] <fsphil> didn't think to stop a cab at the time
[17:02] <Ian_> scary. !st rule of London travel. Get an A to Z
[17:02] <fsphil> well I have google maps now :)
[17:03] <Ian_> Batteries don't go flat on an A to Z :)
[17:03] <fsphil> this is true
[17:03] <fsphil> though I always carry a lipo battery pack when travelling
[17:03] Action: LazyLeopard has had that "Ah, I remember that turning!" followed a little later by "You remember it because that's where you went WRONG last time AS WELL!" ;)
[17:04] <Ian_> Knowing that you can easily work out where you are gives a lot of confidence
[17:05] <LazyLeopard> Yeah, even when the sat-nav seems to think you want to go somewhere else...
[17:05] <mfa298> I usually do the "Oh that was the turning I wanted" on the motorway, when the next junction is a long way away.
[17:05] <fsphil> I do that every time going to the airport
[17:05] <fsphil> "oh yeah that was the one ..."
[17:06] <fsphil> "*satnav* recalculating..."
[17:06] <Ian_> A 20m round trip to get back to your junction is a bit of a pain. Thoughts of fuel costs and diminishing deadlines for airports etc
[17:06] <fsphil> my satnav either tells me to turn way too early, or too late
[17:06] <mfa298> of course down here a long way between junctions is only about 5 miles - They couldn't even fit jct6 in on the M27 with only a couple of miles between 5 and 7 (probably not the reason but ...)
[17:07] <fsphil> not so bad for me as I can use the next junction after the ideal one
[17:07] <fsphil> just means I go through an extra town
[17:08] <fsphil> worst I've managed is to turn off at the right junction, then get the wrong exit from the roundabout and ending back up on the motorway
[17:09] <Ian_> Lol :)
[17:09] <Ian_> Auto navigation by habit when intending to go in the opposite direction for a change
[17:25] <daveake> For a while I had an Ozzy Osborne voice on my TomTom ... funny, but not helpful when he says "turn ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff-ing left" and it's too late by the time he's finished
[17:27] <eroomde> i turned off the voices
[17:27] <eroomde> no one speaks out of turn in my car
[17:27] <LazyLeopard> Heh. Yeah, I can see that might, perhaps, not quite cut the mustard... ;)
[17:28] <LazyLeopard> Was driving to Heathrow on Tuesday at oh-dark-stupid-hour, and had somehow managed to get the sat-nav into "pedestrian" mode...
[17:28] <LazyLeopard> It kept telling me to take footpaths...
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[17:29] <LazyLeopard> It nearly got thrown out the window.
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[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03bcv248_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=bcv248_chase
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[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[20:40] <Upu> ping fab4space
[20:43] <Lunar_Lander> hi Upu :)
[20:43] <Upu> hey Lunar
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander> hope all is good
[20:47] <Lunar_Lander> might order a MTX2 tonight
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[20:54] <Upu> plenty in stock
[20:55] Nick change: Guest8443 -> berndj
[20:59] <Lunar_Lander> :) cool
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[21:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5JUT - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5JUT
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[21:52] <fab4space> hello Upu
[21:52] <Upu> hey
[21:52] <Upu> quick pm
[21:53] <fab4space> yes
[21:53] <fab4space> many thanks Upu :)
[21:53] <fab4space> prepare for a massive order of RFM98W :)
[21:54] <Upu> lol see private message
[21:54] <Upu> and define "massive"
[21:56] <Lunar_Lander> 42
[22:02] <fab4space> lol :) massive for me is just ten this week :)
[22:06] <fab4space> afk
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> don't forget to bring a towel
[22:07] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[22:08] <fab4space> :p
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