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[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4HHV - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4HHV
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[08:45] <mbales_> anyone awake and happen to know anything about the si4455?
[08:47] <eroomde> hah gotta pic your timezones better :)
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[09:29] <eroomde> mbales: i haven't used that particular chip, but there is generally a lot of SI4xxx experience in here so if you just ask the question, someone might pick it up
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[10:46] <Darkside> humm off lora issues..
[10:46] <Darkside> odd*
[10:46] <Darkside> doesnt seem to always transmit the full packet
[10:48] <mbales_> Ive been over the si4455 datasheet and application notes and Im still not 100% on if its possible and what command I would issue if I wanted to change the transmit frequency (within the same band ie from 144.390 to 144.490)
[10:51] <mbales_> it looks like FREQ_CONTROL_INTE (0-2) but its hard to really tell from teh documentation
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[11:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL6JOS-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL6JOS-11
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[11:35] <M6JNJ> Hi, m6jnj here for first time, just testing the IRC.
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[12:25] <Laurenceb__> test failed
[12:25] <Laurenceb__> Fatal Exception
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[12:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-11
[12:46] <Laurenceb__> dead in here
[12:46] <Laurenceb__> whats going on
[12:46] <Laurenceb__> past week or two everything has just dropped off massively
[12:50] <SM0ULC-Reb> HAB-season ended?
[12:55] <fab4space> hello why do I keep to have habitat:UnmergeableError when using 2 receivers my F4HHV test
[12:56] <fab4space> I have this error on the 2 dl fldigi clients
[12:56] <fab4space> one is for F4HHV-2 receiver and the other one for F4HHV-3 receiver
[12:57] <fab4space> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=satellite&mz=17&qm=1_day&mc=43.77556,4.2348&f=F4HHV
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[13:22] <tony__> what is MTX2 moduel mini order quantity?
[13:22] <tony__> Radiometrix MTX2 434Mhz Radio Module
[13:22] <adamgreig> depends on who you buy it from...
[13:22] <adamgreig> but generally 1
[13:24] <tony__> but in hab-supplies I can't order 1 to 10?? so what is the mini order quantity in there ?
[13:24] <adamgreig> habsupplies sells them in 1s
[13:25] <tony__> what is 1s ?
[13:25] <adamgreig> as in, you can buy just one from habsupplies
[13:25] <tony__> http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=71_63 this link
[13:25] <arjunnaha> May not be in stock...
[13:25] <adamgreig> http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=71_63&product_id=106
[13:25] <adamgreig> the mtx2
[13:25] <adamgreig> qty 1
[13:25] <adamgreig> "add to cart"
[13:25] <adamgreig> "OK"
[13:26] <tony__> system say in stock, but what check out? not allow.
[13:26] <adamgreig> checkout seems ok to me... what error?
[13:26] <adamgreig> paging Upu
[13:27] <tony__> Products marked with *** are not available in the desired quantity or not in stock!
[13:27] <tony__> check the shopping cart they say on top
[13:27] <adamgreig> ah, I just clicked checkout directly, hah
[13:27] <adamgreig> guess it's out of stock at the moment
[13:28] <arjunnaha> ping Upu
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[13:29] <tony__> the link http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=71_63&product_id=106
[13:29] <tony__> Brand: Radiometrix Product Code: HAB-MTX2 Availability: In Stock
[13:32] <arjunnaha> ping UpuWork
[13:32] <mfa298> I'd doubt he's at work on a sunday :p more like UpuLunch
[13:36] <arjunnaha> I'm doing a report and it felt like a weekday !
[13:36] <arjunnaha> ­čśé
[13:36] <tony__> thanks!
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[13:45] <Upu> HEY
[13:45] <Upu> HERE
[13:45] <Upu> oops
[13:45] <Upu> just order it stock is zero but they are meant to be here tommorrow
[13:46] <Upu> fixed the shop cheers
[13:46] <tony__> where dido you see stock is zero?
[13:46] <Upu> pong arjunnaha
[13:47] <Upu> tony__ it was -2 as someone had ordered a few the other day but there are 50 turning up from Radiometrix tommorrow, I've fixed availble stock so you shgould be able to order now
[13:47] <Upu> sorry about that
[13:48] <arjunnaha> Just wanted to alert to ^
[13:48] <Upu> ah ok no problems thanks
[13:48] <Upu> the stock system on the website doesn't always match reality
[13:48] <tony__> i will try again
[13:49] <Upu> as a rule of thumb if something reports out of stock you can still order it anyway
[13:49] <tony__> yes, works now. Thanks for your help.
[13:49] <Upu> no problems thanks
[13:50] <tony__> if i order now, can you post tomorrow
[13:50] <Upu> if they turn up on time certainly
[13:51] <Upu> courier can turn up any time and we have a cut off of about 1pm on the post collection
[13:51] <Upu> otherwise will be Tuesday
[13:51] <tony__> i need ntx2b x2 mtx2 x1
[13:51] <Upu> no probs
[13:52] <tony__> thanks.
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[14:04] <arjunnaha> To extend a GoPro battery, would you use http://www.amazon.co.uk/PROtastic-Battery-Eliminator-Action-Cameras/dp/B012UFQVLE/ or http://www.amazon.co.uk/PROtastic-Battery-Eliminator-Action-Cameras/dp/B012UJ9YTQ/ to connect to a USB battery pack. They both seem to do the same thing but in different ways.
[14:07] <Laurenceb__> thats very nice, but assumes the GoPro runs reliably first
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> GoPro: giving embedded linux a bad name
[14:08] <daveake> My answer is neither :)
[14:08] <daveake> Cheaper to just get a bacpac battery
[14:08] <arjunnaha> Will that last for a 2.5hr flight?
[14:09] <daveake> There's no single answer as it depends on model and mode
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> cant you script the GoPro to go to sleep mode?
[14:09] <arjunnaha> I was considering, but it never actually said anywhere how much it increases by, just that it 'extends' the running life
[14:09] <daveake> But if it's not a Hero 4 Black, then yes
[14:10] <daveake> There are tables on the GoPro web site for run time vs mode with and without the bacpac
[14:10] <Laurenceb__> or you could write a script to record video clips when a GPIO toggles
[14:10] <Laurenceb__> then only run video some of the time
[14:11] <arjunnaha> daveake: I can't find that anywhere (prob somewhere obvious)
[14:12] <daveake> You fail at google then
[14:12] <daveake> I got this in 5 secs https://gopro.com/support/articles/hero4-camera-battery-life
[14:13] <arjunnaha> I've got the Hero3+ Black
[14:13] <daveake> Go forth and google then
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[14:14] <Laurenceb__> yeah I've got Hero3+ black too, in theory its very hackable
[14:14] <Laurenceb__> in practice there seems to be no point as even unhacked it just not reliable enough
[14:14] <Laurenceb__> firmware is too unstable
[14:15] <arjunnaha> https://gopro.com/support/articles/hero3plus-camera-battery-life - There dosen't seem to be a Battery BacPac column
[14:15] <arjunnaha> I've got a silver and black and apart from ProTune and Superview the Silver has a better battery life
[14:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5GOM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[15:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F4HHV-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F4HHV-2
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[16:55] <fab4space> daveake, I have noticed that you have removed BinaryTelemetry from lora-gateway
[16:55] <fab4space> I was using it for my tracker with high SF for high range packets :)
[16:56] <fab4space> do you plan to integrate it again or drop it definitively?
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[17:04] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[17:09] <fab4space> the text telemetry with lora and text crc add at least 100 % overhead
[17:09] <fab4space> compared to binary telemetry
[17:09] <arjunnaha> Evening
[17:24] <daveake> fab4space - No plans on putting it back in
[17:24] <daveake> Much more likely that it will have msgpack added
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[17:27] <fab4space> oh nice msgpack should be more evolutive yes :)
[17:27] <fab4space> $$F4HHV,68,43.77668,4.23668,70*5551
[17:27] <fab4space> 36 bytes
[17:27] <fab4space> MessagePack (hex) 18 bytes 67 %
[17:27] <fab4space> very good :)
[17:28] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[17:28] <Lunar_Lander> I'm thinking about making a new electronics package for balloons
[17:28] <Lunar_Lander> trying to get rid of most of the cabling
[17:29] <Lunar_Lander> and making it as small as possible
[17:29] <daveake> I thought you were thinking about launching about now? :)
[17:29] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[17:29] <Lunar_Lander> that too
[17:29] <fab4space> now I need to think how to integrate msgpack in my Cortex M0 with 32kb of flash daveake :)
[17:29] <daveake> plenty
[17:29] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[17:29] <fab4space> I'm close to the 30kb with mbed, Lora , Contestia, GPS, ...
[17:30] <Lunar_Lander> I am using 32k of 64k at the moment
[17:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[17:31] Action: daveake types free -m
[17:31] <daveake> no issues here :)
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[17:32] <fab4space> I'm using the mbuino : http://www.outrageouscircuits.com/shop/product/11
[17:32] <fab4space> with mbed environment
[17:32] <fab4space> https://developer.mbed.org/platforms/Outrageous-Circuits-mBuino/
[17:33] <fab4space> NXP LPC11U24 ARM® Cortex™-M0 50Mhz
[17:33] <fab4space> 32K FLASH / 10K RAM
[17:38] <Lunar_Lander> sorry the new electronics is retracted
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> wth am I saying, I am working on them
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> sorry
[17:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RIA-20 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RIA-20
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[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> can somone tell me how the Vaisala RS80 antenna works, that you can see on the right edge of this photo? http://www.radiosonde.eu/RS03/RS03e06d.jpg with just two radials and they don't look like they are 16cm long as they should be for 400MHz
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[21:14] <gonzo_> I have an rs80-15 sonde here. the antenna element is 19cm long
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[21:15] <gonzo_> ish (had to estimate the bit inside the polystyrene box
[21:20] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:20] <Lunar_Lander> thanks :)
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[21:55] <arjunnaha> ping daveake
[21:55] <daveake> pong
[21:56] <arjunnaha> When you cut holes in the polystyrene, how do you do it? Your circles look very clean
[21:58] <Upu> hot wire cutter
[21:58] <daveake> nope
[21:58] <daveake> cookie cutters for circles
[21:58] <Upu> haha nice
[21:59] <arjunnaha> And how do you do the indents in the foam for the GoPros
[22:00] <daveake> same
[22:01] <arjunnaha> Ah, you've used two pieces of foam.
[22:01] Action: arjunnaha bangs head against wall
[22:01] <daveake> Yes makes life rather easier
[22:04] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[22:04] <arjunnaha> last question, where do you get your blue foam from?
[22:05] <daveake> Hindleys
[22:05] <arjunnaha> thanks
[22:06] <arjunnaha> Final question (I promise), do you get 25mm, 50mm or 75mm?
[22:06] <daveake> since I'm building HABs not houses, none of the above
[22:07] <daveake> 10 + 5
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[22:08] <arjunnaha> Thanks
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[23:38] <OK1JRA> hi all
[23:44] <OK1JRA> Today i see weathersonde tracking in habhub udnder call DL6JOS-11 ( radiosonde from Meiningen) i search for info what software can import data from Sondemonitor to Habhub...any info?...
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