highaltitude.log.20151023

[00:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9FDK-15 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-15
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[02:12] <Guest3614> I'm chasing for a launch this weekend. Any ideas why I'm seeing notable (25 mile) differences in landing locations between HabHub and ASTRA predictions with the same data?
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[03:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 031_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=1_chase
[03:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[08:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03ARY1 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY1
[08:15] <michal_f> !flights
[08:15] <SpacenearUS> 03michal_f: There are no flights currently :(
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[09:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EA7URC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EA7URC-11
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[12:25] <fsphil> all quiet in the stratosphere this week
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[12:35] <Matt_PrjHet> Hello Gods of HAB.
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[12:38] <Matt_PrjHet> Do you know of anywhere to the West of London (Bath/Oxford West) that has a 3 day NOTAM like Cambridge?
[12:38] <Matt_PrjHet> The wind seems to predominantly push stuff North East and that would still mean landing in England instead of the North Sea.
[12:39] <craag> We have a similar arrangement from the new forest, but restricted on surface wind (must be north or west)
[12:39] <adamgreig> oh hey Matt_PrjHet, sorry, mean to reply to your email and haven't got around to it yet
[12:39] <adamgreig> you're welcome to use ours again
[12:39] <mattbrejza> email is crap
[12:39] <adamgreig> though note november is not a great month for weather
[12:39] <mattbrejza> all communication should take place on irc
[12:41] <Matt_PrjHet> Hey gents, yeah, thats why I'm thinking if we could have 2 potential sites in mind, one for N/W launch and one for E/S that might be sensible.
[12:42] <Matt_PrjHet> I don't know if you saw our vid but we're trying to get another Star Wars launch in before the new film comes out (JJ never sent us the Premiere tickets ;)
[12:42] <Matt_PrjHet> Oh, OK. All comms will be on IRC from here on in! Are you guys on here 24/7?
[12:42] <Matt_PrjHet> (You seem to be!)
[12:42] <fsphil> logged in, but maybe not here :)
[12:43] <adamgreig> email works fine for CUSF stuff, but best to email the contact address rather than specific people
[12:44] <adamgreig> I am usually around here (especially if you mention my username) but CUSF business should go to the CUSF email :P
[12:45] <gonzo_> I doubt that any of us are 'all' here.
[12:46] <Matt_PrjHet> Roger. Yeah I think I emailed Daniel first, I arranged it all with him last time. Then emailed CUSF.
[12:46] <adamgreig> right, I got your cusf email yesterday evening sort of time I guess
[12:46] <adamgreig> daniel has graduated </3
[12:49] <Matt_PrjHet> Ah! Good stuff. It was Daniel and Jack helping us in April. Top chaps.
[12:53] <Matt_PrjHet> What's the deal with the New Forest launch site craag? Similar to Cambridge? Work out a rough window then make a call for launch 7 days, then 3 days in advance..?
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[12:55] <Matt_PrjHet> And... please let me know the etiquette. Will I upset anyone (you guys) if I eye up 2 different sites and make a call the week before?
[12:56] <adamgreig> doesn't bother me at all
[12:56] <craag> Basically we can apply for a NOTAM a minimum of 72 hours in advance.
[12:57] <craag> s/we/you/
[12:57] <mattbrejza> well its not quite like that
[12:58] <mattbrejza> we apply for a 2-3week window, then confirm the actual date 72hrs in advance
[12:58] <daveake> oh, different to here
[12:58] <adamgreig> ours is quite nice
[12:58] <daveake> I just have to do the 72-hour email
[12:58] <adamgreig> mm, like that
[12:58] <Matt_PrjHet> Hi Dave
[12:58] <craag> Hmm, not what I think he said to me.
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[12:58] <adamgreig> we have permission to launch whenever, caveat is 72 hour notice to caa and 24 to atc
[12:59] <daveake> No ATC here
[12:59] <daveake> DM said: "In an attempt to reduce workload, I intend to issue a "long-term" exemption/permission for your Old Gore launches, with the requirement that you then give 72 hours prior notice of each intended launch, so that NOTAMs can be issued. Please let me know if you have any objections to this proposal."
[12:59] <adamgreig> mm
[12:59] <mattbrejza> perhaps i could ask for one in 72hrs, havnt tried
[12:59] <adamgreig> our old setup didn't have the caa notification thing and we had a long-rolling notam
[12:59] <adamgreig> but we got sooo many phone calls from pilots
[12:59] <adamgreig> wasn't worth it
[13:00] <adamgreig> so now we ask for the notam in advance just when we want it up
[13:00] <mattbrejza> yea craag , we dont have that same arrangement daveake does
[13:00] <daveake> What I actually do is little different to before ... I'll send an email about a week in advance, then do a follow up before that 72 hour window starts
[13:00] <mattbrejza> the thing i said applies to any site though i suspect
[13:00] <daveake> Main difference is no actual application form or map - just the email
[13:01] <craag> Hmm he said something to me about 72 hours when I wanted to do that last minute sunrise one - can't find the email now.
[13:02] <craag> Matt_PrjHet: Seems we're not sure of the short notice situation, so ignore new forest :)
[13:04] <mattbrejza> you could always put in an application for a 2-3 week window though
[13:04] <Matt_PrjHet> OK, fair enough! Dave you're out West, I don't suppose we could use your NOTAM next month could we? Beer would need to be involved. I still owe you for all the PiTS help last time!
[13:04] <daveake> ha :)
[13:05] <daveake> yes, if I'm around
[13:05] <daveake> away for 1-2 weeks from 21st Nov
[13:05] <Matt_PrjHet> Fantastic! :D You guys rock.
[13:06] <craag> Matt_PrjHet: as mattbrejza says, you're welcome to apply for the new forest, it's not tied to us at all. Just we've used it several times before so you know it'll likely be approved. Can send you the map and details if you're interested.
[13:07] <craag> Here btw: http://ml.philcrump.co.uk/1l
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[13:08] <Matt_PrjHet> Yeah that'd be great! ProjectHeT@Outlook.com
[13:08] <Matt_PrjHet> Ah cool. Ta
[13:13] <Matt_PrjHet> Oh that's a shame. I think that's when we want to launch Dave.
[13:13] <Matt_PrjHet> Owing you beer off still stands though!
[13:15] <daveake> :)
[13:16] <eroomde> i'd watch a beer off
[13:17] <Matt_PrjHet> D'oh! Typo
[13:17] <Matt_PrjHet> * -off
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[13:24] <gonzo_> Matt_PrjHet, is this a school project? If so, which school?
[13:26] <Matt_PrjHet> No, nothing so worthy. Just a couple of fat nerds with nothing better to do.
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[13:28] <gonzo_> hehe, that's fine. Bacon butties are an integral part of HAB, so you're in good company
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[13:38] <Matt_PrjHet> :D
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[14:22] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[15:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[15:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5FKB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5FKB-11
[15:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-10
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[15:56] <RealBorg> NASA talks about HABing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8atVwU_2Iw
[16:02] <eroomde> mark adler is a very good speaker
[16:03] <eroomde> he has some serious contributions to open source aswell
[16:04] <eroomde> e.g. he co-authored zlib, gzip and the png standard
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[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TENPARTS3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TENPARTS3
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[18:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-3
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[18:36] <WB8ELK> WB8ELK-3 on 144.39 and 144.34 APRS now. This is a totally solar-powered Pico balloon on a 36" mylar. Launched today from Huntsville, Alabama USA
[18:36] <WB8ELK> If it manages to float it will change to 144.800 MHz over Azores and Europe.
[18:42] <Lunar_Lander> nice :)
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[19:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03n8vrn_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=n8vrn_chase
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[19:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PennyB_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PennyB_chase
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[20:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS6GC_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS6GC_chase
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[20:45] <DL7AD> DL7AD-12 launched http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FDL7AD-12&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[20:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-12
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[21:28] <DL7AD> https://kt5tk.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/small-tracker-big-balloon/
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[21:30] <ulfr> http://www.popsci.com/video-shows-bomb-carrying-condom-balloons-in-syria?src=SOC&dom=fb
[21:30] <ulfr> I think someone should notify someone about this.
[21:35] <Laurenceb__> holy shit wut
[21:36] <Laurenceb__> expecting snackbaring
[21:36] <Laurenceb__> wait wut ?? they look too big
[21:36] <ulfr> Inflated condoms are big.
[21:37] <ulfr> I remember doing tests on this (for science of course) as a teenager.
[21:37] <ulfr> Driving at 150mph and holding a condom out of the window
[21:37] <Laurenceb__> chances of it hitting anything are tiny
[21:37] <ulfr> I wasn't driving, obviously, that'd be dangerous.
[21:37] <Laurenceb__> they should tether them
[21:37] <ulfr> Laurenceb__: Perhaps we should get in contact with them and explain that to them?
[21:38] <ulfr> "NO YOU'RE NOT DOING HAB RIGHT YOU IDIOTS!"
[21:38] <ulfr> "no I don't care what the payload is!"
[21:38] <ulfr> "How do you expect to put that into the CUSF?!?!?"
[21:39] <Laurenceb__> lol
[21:39] <Laurenceb__> maybe not :P
[21:39] <ulfr> No, perhaps not.
[21:41] <Laurenceb__> looks good KT5TK
[21:41] <Laurenceb__> 0.91g, amazing
[21:43] <ulfr> hmm.. I missed that?
[21:43] <ulfr> Laurenceb__: how is the rockoon thing going?
[21:43] <Laurenceb__> https://kt5tk.wordpress.com/2015/10/11/pecan-femto-3/
[21:43] <ulfr> Ah
[21:44] <ulfr> oh, it's sven's design, cool!
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> ulfr: I'm currently trying to source igniters
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> and failing :-/
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[21:44] <Laurenceb__> I'd like to know where the pinout for that ublox is
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> Current state is that on one board the GPS is unresponsive
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> nvm
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> lol
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> hi
[21:45] <ulfr> fun
[21:45] <ulfr> what kind of igniterse?
[21:45] <Laurenceb__> Kt5TK: I was just reading your blog
[21:45] <Laurenceb__> nice board
[21:45] <Laurenceb__> where did you get the ublox pinout?
[21:45] <ulfr> Have you talked to Frank at Rebel space?
[21:46] <ulfr> Laurenceb__: you might also be interested in contacting Joseph Foley at Reykjavik University.
[21:46] <ulfr> they have been working on both paraschute deployment systems as well as ignition systems.
[21:47] <Laurenceb__> ah Rebel space, no I havent
[21:47] <Ian_> Seems that someone in the Middle East has bought them all up along with a consignment of jumbo unlubricated . . . \
[21:47] <Laurenceb__> ok thanks
[21:47] <Laurenceb__> I was going to try Sierrafox hobbies
[21:47] <Ian_> some of those seemed to be elephant sized, even before inflation.
[21:48] <KT5TK> Laurenceb__ Pinout uBlox EVA7M from Upu. But I think they have it now on their website
[21:48] <Laurenceb__> ah ok
[21:48] <Laurenceb__> thats very might, lighter than leo managed
[21:48] <Laurenceb__> *light
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[21:49] <Ian_> Workmate of mine, RN, had been employed at a zoo before joining up. Word got out that he had put prophylactics on elephants and he spent some of his training time being sent around giving five minute talks on the subject. Quickly, but late, learned to keep his moth shut!
[21:49] <KT5TK> https://www.u-blox.com/en/product-resources/2663
[21:51] <Laurenceb__> ah, now everyone can make superlight trackers
[21:51] <Laurenceb__> although the latest sirf IC seems to be lower power than ublox
[21:52] <KT5TK> The battery is over-dimensioned, but we want to make sure we get through every night. The balloon is huge enough to carry that weight.
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[21:58] <Laurenceb__> anyone know how to enter a date range in google custom search>
[21:58] <Laurenceb__> * ?
[22:11] <mbales> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24830700/google-custom-search-date-range
[22:12] <Laurenceb__> but no useful answers :-/
[22:13] <mbales> nope, and that may just be the answer
[22:23] <DL7AD> btw i just contributed the uBlox EVA7M eagle library to Upu's eagle library.
[22:26] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
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[22:30] <KG7WPQ> hello, I'm looking for contact info for one Anthony Stirk, M6UPU, does anybody know where I might find an email or anything?
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[22:36] <eroomde> KG7WPQ: Upu would be a good start
[22:37] <eroomde> but don't use upu as a service, instead use updog
[22:38] <KG7WPQ> what exactly is upu?
[22:38] <KG7WPQ> or updog..
[22:38] <eroomde> nvm, about updog
[22:38] <eroomde> upu is m6upu
[22:38] <eroomde> anthony
[22:39] <mbales> hahaha
[22:39] <KG7WPQ> Alright
[22:39] <Laurenceb__> dawg
[22:39] <KG7WPQ> well, I think I got an email from somebody in PM for UPU so I sent an email..
[22:40] <KG7WPQ> Just need some basic information regarding connecting a radio to a micro controller for now..
[22:40] <eroomde> you're meant to ask 'what's updog' and i say 'not much, you?' and hilarity ensues all round
[22:40] <eroomde> there's a ukhas wiki page on connecting micros to radios
[22:40] <eroomde> !wiki
[22:40] <SpacenearUS> 03eroomde: Here be the wiki, arr: 12http://ukhas.org.uk
[22:41] <KG7WPQ> oh lol, sorry if I'm a bit dull at the moment, more coffee must be in order lol
[22:42] <eroomde> too late here for coffee
[22:42] <eroomde> almost bedtime
[22:43] <KG7WPQ> it's friday, there is no bedtime on friday.
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[22:44] <KG7WPQ> I do have to leave though, i've got 300 miles between me and a concert so I'll talk to you all later on
[22:44] <KG7WPQ> Thank you all for your help and 73 and whatnot.
[22:45] <eroomde> which condert?
[22:45] <KG7WPQ> Coheed and Cambria
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[22:46] <KG7WPQ> There's some other guys going to be there that fancy themselves musicians as well i gather ;)
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[22:46] <KG7WPQ> anyway, i'll come back when I can, thanks everybody, disconnecting..
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[22:48] <mbales> i would have thought hed be going to the updog concert
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[22:54] <eroomde> what's updog?
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[23:18] <mbales> not much, you?
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[23:30] <Lunar_Lander> time for good night :)
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[23:40] <adamgreig> eroomde: NOT MUCH DOG, WHAT'S UP WITH YOU
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[23:41] <benoxlington> I can see this conversation is finally getting interesting
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[23:41] <benoxlington> what great banter
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