highaltitude.log.20151011

[00:00] mbales_ (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales_
[00:01] mbales_ (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[00:07] T-MaN (~thomas@c83-250-241-87.bredband.comhem.se) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[00:11] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[00:43] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-190-79-174.range86-190.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds
[01:00] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp20.signon3.dk.beevpn.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds
[01:01] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp15.signon1.dk.beevpn.com) joined #highaltitude.
[01:14] day_ (~yashi@unaffiliated/day) joined #highaltitude.
[01:18] day (~yashi@unaffiliated/day) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[01:18] Nick change: day_ -> day
[01:29] PeteA (PeteA@cpc72235-sotn14-2-0-cust476.15-1.cable.virginm.net) joined #highaltitude.
[02:01] mattltm (mattltm@viking.pengimo.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[02:03] mattltm (~mattltm@viking.pengimo.com) joined #highaltitude.
[02:30] PeteA (PeteA@cpc72235-sotn14-2-0-cust476.15-1.cable.virginm.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[03:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03yl3gbc_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=yl3gbc_chase
[03:02] day_ (~yashi@unaffiliated/day) joined #highaltitude.
[03:05] Hoogvlieger (~Hoogvlieg@ip41-37-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[03:05] day (~yashi@unaffiliated/day) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[03:05] Nick change: day_ -> day
[03:10] mbales_ (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds
[03:12] jubatus (~mIRC@unaffiliated/jubatus) joined #highaltitude.
[03:14] mbales (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[03:21] superkuh (~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[03:22] superkuh (~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh) joined #highaltitude.
[03:31] mbales (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales
[03:39] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL1NBR-11 after 038 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1NBR-11
[03:50] mbales_ (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[04:31] mbales_ (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales_
[04:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03charles_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=charles_chase
[05:44] SM0ULC (davidl@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[05:45] SM0ULC (davidl@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #highaltitude.
[05:52] es5nhc (~tarmo@108-40-71-217.sta.estpak.ee) joined #highaltitude.
[06:06] mbales (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[06:07] <BeaverOne> Woo-hoo! You are now an official backer of Tracksoar APRS.
[06:34] mightymik (499ea0ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.158.160.239) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[06:47] jcoxon (~jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[06:55] <mbales> hooray
[06:55] <mbales> did you do the shield only?
[06:55] #highaltitude: mode change '+o jcoxon' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[06:55] <mbales> beaverone
[06:56] Topic changed on #highaltitude by jcoxon!jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with balloons, rockets, gliders... more infor wiki.ukhas.org.uk
[06:56] Topic changed on #highaltitude by jcoxon!jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything to do with balloons, rockets, gliders... more info: wiki.ukhas.org.uk
[06:57] #highaltitude: mode change '-o jcoxon' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[06:59] ipdove (~ipdove@interclub.plus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[07:01] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[07:05] <BeaverOne> mbales: did the 3 option shield
[07:07] <mbales> i think the descrpition may have been unclear, that just gets you a shield, not the transmitter itself
[07:08] <BeaverOne> oh, darn
[07:08] <BeaverOne> :-\
[07:08] <eroomde> also i'm not sure it's the smallest, lightest open aprs tracker
[07:09] <eroomde> but could be wrong, don't keep up enough now
[07:09] ipdove (~ipdove@interclub.plus.com) left irc: Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de
[07:09] <mbales> can you elaberate?
[07:09] <eroomde> well, it claims to be
[07:09] <eroomde> buit it's much bigger than many pico trackers that use aprs
[07:09] <BeaverOne> eroomde: wanna see my personal open gsm tracker? heh
[07:09] <eroomde> no?
[07:09] <BeaverOne> :(
[07:09] <mbales> not that im aware of
[07:10] <mbales> i mean yes i claim that
[07:10] <mbales> but i am not aware of any smaller
[07:10] <mbales> that hope to be commercially available and are open source
[07:10] Lemml (~andreas@p4FEEA2AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #highaltitude.
[07:10] <eroomde> yeah, the OS bit would be the thing i'm unsure about
[07:10] <BeaverOne> eroomde: spent a lot of time working on my personal-use GSM Tracker
[07:11] <eroomde> but i am certainly quite sure that many ukhas pico flights with aprs have been smaller and lighter
[07:11] <mbales> APRS? i know there are digital mode ones but not APRS based
[07:11] <eroomde> but can't make any strong claims about OS-ness, as i don't track who puts what on github etc
[07:11] <eroomde> yes aprs
[07:11] <mbales> interesting
[07:11] <eroomde> i'm not repeating aprs constantly for my own amusement
[07:11] <eroomde> aprs
[07:12] <mbales> just trying to be clear
[07:12] <mbales> no offense intended
[07:12] <eroomde> no probs
[07:12] <mbales> i make that claim having done a fair amount of research, and couldnt find a smaller open source one
[07:13] <eroomde> BeaverOne: ok send me a link then, i am interested
[07:13] <BeaverOne> eroomde: http://pastebin.com/Jvx4eTny
[07:13] <BeaverOne> eroomde: https://www.flickr.com/photos/100852237@N06/albums/72157659594396151
[07:13] <eroomde> ha, that's more like it
[07:14] SM0ULC (davidl@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[07:14] <BeaverOne> finished it tonight
[07:14] <eroomde> the first link is like saying 'do you want to meet my friend pete?' and then sending me a text file of his dna
[07:14] <BeaverOne> heh
[07:14] <eroomde> looks very nice!
[07:14] <BeaverOne> quite heavy and big
[07:14] <eroomde> what's the optional pcb antenna you'd use?
[07:14] <BeaverOne> :P
[07:14] <jcoxon> BeaverOne, is it possible to swap the gps board to the top?
[07:15] <BeaverOne> jcoxon: the gsm antenna causes clearance issues
[07:15] <jcoxon> you'll get better gps locks etc
[07:15] <eroomde> sure it's big, but gsm can be a pain in the bum
[07:15] <eroomde> as i'm sure you realise
[07:15] <BeaverOne> yeah, seems also illegal, heh
[07:15] <eroomde> the dyanmic current requirements constrain the psu section to being quite big, no matter what you do
[07:16] <BeaverOne> jcoxon: the optional antenna is for the gps
[07:16] SM0ULC (~rasta@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #highaltitude.
[07:18] Hoogvlieger (~Hoogvlieg@ip41-37-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[07:24] fox123 (b9496413@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.73.100.19) joined #highaltitude.
[07:26] <BeaverOne> mbales: thank you for guiding me in the right direction, didn't even know it was illegal until i talked to you
[07:26] SM0ULC (~rasta@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
[07:29] NLincs (~NLincs@158.99.200.146.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[07:29] <eroomde> gsm is illegal?
[07:32] NLincs (~NLincs@202.96.200.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[07:32] <mbales> not a problem, it comes up fairly often
[07:32] <mbales> in teh US
[07:32] <mbales> FCC says its a no no
[07:33] <jcoxon> mbales, i guess you mean in the air its illegal
[07:33] number10 (569e89e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.137.224) joined #highaltitude.
[07:33] <mbales> airborne yes
[07:33] <mbales> and especially unmanned
[07:34] <BeaverOne> :P
[07:34] <jcoxon> you could of course turn it on on landing
[07:34] SM0ULC (~rasta@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #highaltitude.
[07:34] <mbales> yes you certainly could
[07:34] <BeaverOne> yeah, main interest is for retrieval on land
[07:34] <BeaverOne> the gps has a logging feature
[07:34] <Darkside> ok
[07:34] <Darkside> humm 6pm
[07:34] <jcoxon> BeaverOne, i'd use GSM as a backup, best high altitude tracking would be radio
[07:34] <Darkside> i should probably eat something
[07:34] <Darkside> argh wrong window
[07:35] <BeaverOne> jcoxon: was going to work on a Ham Radio license to be able to operate the more approprate high altitude tracking methods
[07:36] <jcoxon> BeaverOne, i think thats a great idea
[07:37] <jcoxon> getting a licence is a good thing to add to your skill set
[07:37] <jcoxon> even in the UK where you can't fly amateur radio equipment we still recommend getting a licence
[07:37] <jcoxon> just to learn about the science and the rules of radio
[07:40] YO9GJX (~YO9GJX@109.102.153.76) left irc: Ping timeout: 268 seconds
[07:42] <BeaverOne> really like this hobby so far
[07:45] <pe2bz__> !flights
[07:45] <SpacenearUS> 03pe2bz__: Current flights: 03GHS1 10(fa0a), 03UBSEDS10 434.600 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(44c7), 03UBSEDS11 434.602 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(24a6)
[07:52] <mbales> oh yeah, its a lot of fun
[07:52] <mbales> just wait for your first launch
[07:54] <mbales> just remember to run a lot of predictions and avoid powerlines
[07:55] <BeaverOne> do you use the CUSF predictor?
[07:56] <mbales> i like the astra planner, its a little prettier and simpler to use
[07:56] <mbales> astra-planner.soton.ac.uk
[07:57] <BeaverOne> how good accurate has it been?
[08:01] pretec (~Matthias@port-92-195-99-242.dynamic.qsc.de) joined #highaltitude.
[08:04] <mbales> its a bit hit and miss
[08:04] <BeaverOne> ah
[08:04] <mbales> they all will be
[08:05] <mbales> the last two i did the balloon popped way after they usually do so it travelled another 15 - 20 miles
[08:05] <mbales> one of them landed in a huge field of big angry wind turbines
[08:06] <BeaverOne> retriavable?
[08:06] <mbales> oh yeah, got it back
[08:06] <BeaverOne> heh
[08:06] <mbales> ive got pictures somewhere
[08:09] <BeaverOne> mbales: is 4 decimal places of accuracy sufficient for longitude/latitude for this hobby?
[08:10] <mbales> for the launch location i usually ball park it, 4 digits should be fine
[08:12] <eroomde> yeah the predictors are usually good weather-wise but they're only as good as your predicted burst altitude
[08:13] <eroomde> and how well you know your parachute
[08:13] <eroomde> and most people really don't know their parachutes
[08:15] <eroomde> there should be a video there
[08:15] <eroomde> a short PSA on chutes
[08:15] <eroomde> right bbl
[08:15] <mbales> i havent flown with a parachute the last half dozen or so launches, made it way easier, but i also know that my balloon is coming down in unpopulated areas
[08:16] <mbales> and since its so light and wrapped in foam
[08:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M3
[08:19] <SA6BSS> M3 is up, 434.525 7n2 100, pre-stretched 36" qualatex aaa bat
[08:20] <SA6BSS> no solar, 14gram
[08:21] SM0ULC (~rasta@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[08:24] SM0ULC (~rasta@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #highaltitude.
[08:37] <eroomde> BeaverOne: i thoroughly recommend not flying without a parachute though
[08:37] <eroomde> it's a legal requirement most places
[08:37] <eroomde> and unless it's an ultralight payload that will only descent at 5m/s anyway, you'll almost certainly need one
[08:38] M3 (5b57a55f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.87.165.95) joined #highaltitude.
[08:40] M3 (5b57a55f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.87.165.95) left irc: Client Quit
[08:41] David__ (5b57a55f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.87.165.95) joined #highaltitude.
[08:41] jubatus (~mIRC@unaffiliated/jubatus) left irc: Ping timeout: 264 seconds
[08:46] <mbales> plus it makes it way easier to see you payload land, which is fun
[08:46] <David__> Who would have information for M3 (frequency mode)? Thank you
[08:46] <jcoxon> David__, 434.525 7n2 100
[08:47] <David__> Super many thanks
[08:47] <jcoxon> its a pico balloon, are you close by?
[08:47] <mbales> having a parachute that is
[08:48] <David__> No y am in belgium ( ON6LS)
[08:50] <jcoxon> David__, not sure it'll come in range of you
[08:50] <jcoxon> UBSEDS flights should (though they are later in the day)
[08:51] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@x1-6-e8-fc-af-95-86-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk) joined #highaltitude.
[08:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[08:53] <DL1SGP> hej OZ1SKY_Brian
[08:53] <David__> yes ok, may be this afternoon
[08:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS Tjena, got a weak trace of M3 now
[08:54] <SA6BSS> nice :)
[08:54] <DL1SGP> Tjena SA6BSS :)
[08:54] <SA6BSS> tjena
[08:56] TC1DFT (~TC1DFT@90-145-170-188.bbserv.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[08:56] TC1DFT_ (~TC1DFT@90-145-170-188.bbserv.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[09:00] <SM0ULC> morrn
[09:00] <DL1SGP> tjena SM0ULC
[09:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> morrn SM0ULC
[09:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Got partial decodes on M3 now
[09:04] jubatus (~mIRC@unaffiliated/jubatus) joined #highaltitude.
[09:04] <DL1SGP> woot OZ1SKY_Brian
[09:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> first green
[09:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> not sure its uploading, cant find it in active flights
[09:09] <DL1SGP> has anyone informed SA6BSS on the flight?
[09:09] <DL1SGP> will check OZ1SKY_Brian :)
[09:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok it is uploading i see
[09:09] <DL1SGP> ok will not check :)
[09:13] jubatus (mIRC@unaffiliated/jubatus) left #highaltitude.
[09:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS did you send in a flight doc?
[09:18] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[09:18] NLincs (~NLincs@202.96.200.146.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[09:20] <SA6BSS> no, I have not
[09:20] <jcoxon> it would be interesting to see what altitude M3 floats at
[09:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok i found it in "all payloads" no problem
[09:21] <jcoxon> might head quite far west
[09:21] NLincs (~NLincs@229.5.200.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[09:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Did you do a prediction james?
[09:22] <SA6BSS> probabaly hitting cloadbank now, ascend slowing down
[09:22] <DL1SGP> :)
[09:22] <SA6BSS> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/133636_trj001.gif
[09:23] <SA6BSS> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=2a23105a18a518d074e3779e522d8091ffa7ca01
[09:23] <Oddstr13> ohi
[09:24] <DL1SGP> Hi Oddstr13
[09:24] <Oddstr13> SA6BSS: what's the name of it?
[09:24] <jcoxon> very interesting
[09:24] <Oddstr13> !flights
[09:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Oddstr13: Current flights: 03GHS1 10(fa0a), 03UBSEDS10 434.600 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(44c7), 03UBSEDS11 434.602 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(24a6)
[09:25] <SA6BSS> Oddstr13: M3 ?
[09:26] <SA6BSS> have not made any flight doc
[09:26] <Oddstr13> ah, not in the air yet?
[09:27] <DL1SGP> it is in air Oddstr13
[09:27] <Oddstr13> ok
[09:27] <Oddstr13> got coordinates?
[09:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=7&qm=1_day&mc=58.09862,14.01319&f=M3
[09:28] m0XTF (c2a82a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.168.42.134) joined #highaltitude.
[09:29] <Oddstr13> my antenna position is far from optimal atm
[09:29] m0XTF (c2a82a86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.168.42.134) left irc: Client Quit
[09:30] <Oddstr13> if it's going almost straight north, I might see it
[09:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> where are you at in NO ?
[09:31] <Oddstr13> http://i.imgur.com/JNhn0gs.png
[09:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes the prediction looks good for you then
[09:32] <DL1SGP> and bad for me :P
[09:32] <Oddstr13> JP52aq
[09:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ja schade
[09:33] <DL1SGP> heh no worries OZ1SKY_Brian others will be coming some day :P
[09:34] <Oddstr13> oh my, that prediction looks awesome
[09:35] <Oddstr13> might pass right over me, depending on how accurate those predictions are
[09:35] <DL1SGP> you will see Oddstr13 :)
[09:36] <DL1SGP> finally a hab coming to you, hope it will make it
[09:36] <Oddstr13> I should get my antenna outdoors.
[09:36] <DL1SGP> coffee first, it's cold :)
[09:36] <DL1SGP> or tea, as you please =)
[09:37] <Oddstr13> I just evacuated the kitchen, cause it was too hot there, combined with tea.
[09:37] <DL1SGP> ah then being outside should give you the appropriate cooldown
[09:38] <Oddstr13> I should see if I get better signals by removing the 2m 'extension' for my wire dipole
[09:38] <Oddstr13> have some 433.9 stuff sending somewhere around here, so those are nice indication right now
[09:40] jcoxon (~jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[09:40] <Oddstr13> what mode is it transmitting?
[09:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI_chase
[09:41] <SA6BSS> Oddstr13: rtty 100 7n2
[09:42] <Oddstr13> aww, was hoping for some fancy mfsk :P
[09:43] <Oddstr13> the OOK I see on434 is rather boring you know :P
[09:43] <Oddstr13> http://i.imgur.com/NrBjn9m.png
[09:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.526 looks clear though
[09:45] <Oddstr13> yea, no noise right there it seems
[09:45] <Oddstr13> which is nice
[09:46] <DL1SGP> :)
[09:46] YO9GJX (~YO9GJX@109.102.153.76) joined #highaltitude.
[09:47] <Oddstr13> what antenna connections would you guys recommend for making my own antennas?
[09:48] <eroomde> big stuff N, small stuff SMA
[09:49] <eroomde> BNC if low freq and you're connecting to BNC anyway
[09:49] <Oddstr13> currently I have one of those TV antenna connectors with screw fastener for the middle, and no real way to connect to the outer part
[09:49] <eroomde> tv antenna connectors are shit
[09:50] <Oddstr13> no kidding
[09:50] <eroomde> chop them off and put a proper connector on, one of the above
[09:50] <eroomde> if it's for SDR Rx, SMA seems to be the way
[09:50] <Oddstr13> chop it off? lol, it barley hangs on
[09:50] <Oddstr13> I'll get you a picture
[09:50] <DL1SGP> tip it off then :D
[09:52] <eroomde> and N if you need to stick any power up it
[09:52] <SM0ULC> eroomde: define "low freq" :)
[09:53] <eroomde> oh like 70cm and under
[09:54] <eroomde> i mean, good BNCs (from a good manufacturer like Huber+Schuner) are rated to about 4GHz! but most of your everage bashed ones are fairly out of tolerance
[09:54] <Oddstr13> I guess SMA is a good place to go anyway, as I really want a HackRF
[09:54] <eroomde> given most modern SDRs go up into low GHz I'd go with SMA
[09:54] <eroomde> yeah
[09:56] <Oddstr13> got any specific connectors / sources to recommend?
[09:59] darkstar-2001 (~matt@dsl-217-155-229-6.zen.co.uk) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[10:01] DutchMillbt (5380fbdd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.251.221) joined #highaltitude.
[10:02] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[10:04] <SA6BSS> its going down, hmm
[10:04] andycamb (~andycamb@185.69.144.47) joined #highaltitude.
[10:05] <Oddstr13> 1m/s? that dosn't sound good.
[10:06] <Oddstr13> please don't tell me it burst :/
[10:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> maybe a small hole in it
[10:08] <Oddstr13> almost 2m/s now :/
[10:11] <SA6BSS> look like it will land not so far from here, I´l better chage up my ft817
[10:12] <Oddstr13> think it'll land in the middle of Vårgårda or something?
[10:12] <Oddstr13> I guess it isn't falling that fast
[10:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS foxhunt :-)
[10:12] darkstar-2001 (~matt@dsl-217-155-229-6.zen.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[10:13] <SA6BSS> indeed :)
[10:13] andycamb (~andycamb@185.69.144.47) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[10:13] <DL1SGP> woot :)
[10:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> going to loose it soon
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its getting weak
[10:14] <Oddstr13> according to the tracker, you allready have :P
[10:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah its -0.2deg now
[10:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> payload antenna is good
[10:15] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[10:18] <DL1SGP> sorry Oddstr13 maybe next time :)
[10:18] <Oddstr13> *sad panda*
[10:18] <Oddstr13> o well
[10:19] <Oddstr13> hope you guys are able to recover the payload
[10:19] <DL1SGP> best recover with a new balloon and gas in car and make it go up again :D
[10:20] <Oddstr13> hehe
[10:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS very nice payload you made, still got greens at -0.3deg
[10:20] <SA6BSS> run out of gas, have to buy another can
[10:20] <Oddstr13> pretend it never fell, amirite? :P
[10:20] jcoxon (~jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[10:20] <DL1SGP> yikes SA6BSS :P
[10:21] <SA6BSS> yeah, god to know the antenna setup worked.
[10:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it sure does
[10:22] <jcoxon> pull up M3, pull up
[10:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS i think thats about it from here, all reads now
[10:24] <SA6BSS> ok
[10:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> reds i mean
[10:24] <SA6BSS> tnx for tracking!
[10:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS velkomman
[10:25] <SA6BSS> :)
[10:25] <DL1SGP> :)
[10:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> drifting very much down now in freq
[10:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.526 @1100Hz
[10:27] <SA6BSS> wow, it reads 24 degres internal
[10:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> going up in freq again :-)
[10:29] <DL1SGP> once you found it you can use it to warm your hands again SA6BSS ... if you should go after it that is
[10:29] <Oddstr13> what radio and mode would you guys recommend for weather station and simmilar telemetry?
[10:29] <Oddstr13> I have a few nRF24 modules, but I havn't gotten them to cooperate yet
[10:31] <SA6BSS> calculated landning spot http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=6d23d4a3c40a3c7a6dc1edae1c8ff7fbf1039b18
[10:31] <jcoxon> Oddstr13, what sort of range are you looking for?
[10:31] <SA6BSS> u have to copy paste that for it to work
[10:31] <Copyright> -.-
[10:32] <Oddstr13> jcoxon: not sure, but a temperature probe down by the river or something would've been nice
[10:32] <Oddstr13> so, atleast a few km of LOS range
[10:32] <jcoxon> could try #ukhasnet
[10:33] <jcoxon> we've been working on similar stuff
[10:33] <jcoxon> using RFM69 radio modules
[10:33] <Oddstr13> what's the frequency range of those?
[10:33] <jcoxon> we've been using them on 868
[10:33] <jcoxon> but there are 434 versions as well
[10:33] <jcoxon> www.ukhas.net
[10:33] <eroomde> Oddstr13: i also think ukhasnet would be an excellent fit for that sort of thing
[10:34] <Oddstr13> 868 is within the rtlsdr range, so that is nice
[10:34] <jcoxon> we've got a rtl-sdr decoder
[10:34] <jcoxon> for the packets
[10:34] <Oddstr13> can't even debug the nrf24 modules atm cause I can't really see the rf
[10:35] <fsphil> yeah it's no fun working blind
[10:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS landing on top of systembolaget would be cool :-)
[10:37] <DL1SGP> haha brian
[10:37] Hoogvlieger (~Hoogvlieg@ip41-37-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[10:39] ibanezmatt13 (~ibanezmat@nat-0-144.soton.ac.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[10:40] <SA6BSS> yeah, its like combining two good thing in one :)
[10:41] Nick change: pe2bz__ -> PE2BZ
[10:41] mbales (~mbales@wsip-72-215-177-243.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales
[10:44] <PE2BZ> PE2BZ learned a lesson today. Adapters for N-type to F-type (to use a TV type splitter with an RX antenna for 2 SDR´s) are 75 OHm and not 50 Ohm. For RX that´s no problem at all. However, the center pin for 75 Ohm is almost twice the diameter of the 50 ohm. So hunting my bad reception for 2 days lead me to an N- F adapter (N female to F male) with her center opening widely forced open giving me random weak and strong signals
[10:44] <PE2BZ> . Sigh...
[10:47] <DL1SGP> aww :(
[10:47] <DL1SGP> hey you found the issue
[10:48] <eroomde> in general i've founf that the longer it takes to debug, the more head-slappingly annoying the reason will be
[10:53] <Darkside> oh yes
[10:53] <Darkside> 75-ohm N connectors are the devil
[10:53] <Darkside> break so much shit
[10:53] <Darkside> same with 75 ohm BNC connectors
[10:54] <eroomde> this is why you keep your own bnc cables in your lab
[10:54] <eroomde> and dopn't lend them to anyone
[10:56] David__ (5b57a55f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.87.165.95) left #highaltitude.
[10:57] <Oddstr13> are the UBSEDS10 & 11 floaters?
[10:57] <SA6BSS> yes
[10:58] <DL1SGP> indeed :D
[10:58] <Oddstr13> are there any predictions for those?
[10:58] <SA6BSS> sout east
[10:58] <SA6BSS> south*
[10:58] <Oddstr13> aww
[11:00] <SA6BSS> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=2a2627ea44e837d5b2c67b0b0179189efed7f119
[11:02] Blafsen (~blafsen@5419926E.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[11:03] <Oddstr13> the time listed on the tracker, is that local time or utc?
[11:03] <Oddstr13> for the launches
[11:03] <SA6BSS> utc
[11:04] <Oddstr13> why can't I do predictions for the past? :(
[11:05] <SA6BSS> u can on http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub-bin/trajtype.pl
[11:07] <lz1dev> Oddstr13: it says the timezone at the bottom of the calender box
[11:09] <Oddstr13> lz1dev: thanks
[11:10] <Oddstr13> lz1dev: now, how do I kill localization?
[11:10] <Oddstr13> cause that confused the heck out of me
[11:11] <lz1dev> localization?
[11:11] <Oddstr13> it's in norwegian for me.
[11:11] <lz1dev> right
[11:12] MoALTz_ (~no@user-46-113-33-151.play-internet.pl) joined #highaltitude.
[11:14] Blafsen (~blafsen@5419926E.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[11:15] MoALTz (~no@78.11.179.104) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[11:16] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-190-79-174.range86-190.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[11:16] MoALTz__ (~no@78.11.179.104) joined #highaltitude.
[11:19] <lz1dev> Oddstr13: do a couple of F5s
[11:19] <lz1dev> and tell me if its english now :)
[11:19] jcoxon (~jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[11:19] <Oddstr13> thanks
[11:19] <Oddstr13> can you make it 24h time while you're at it?
[11:19] MoALTz_ (~no@user-46-113-33-151.play-internet.pl) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds
[11:21] <lz1dev> it is for me
[11:22] <Oddstr13> http://i.imgur.com/rO6Xnv2.png
[11:22] <lz1dev> derp
[11:24] <Oddstr13> any idea of what altitude UBSEDS10 & 11 are aiming at?
[11:25] <lz1dev> Oddstr13: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?title=Habhub%20Calendar&showTitle=0&showNav=0&showPrint=0&showTabs=0&showCalendars=0&mode=AGENDA&height=450&wkst=2&bgcolor=%23ffffff&src=5m4629p2h0esfojq1elep31einvu2q0v%40import.calendar.google.com&color=%2300a3d3&hl=en_GB
[11:26] <lz1dev> is that 24hr?
[11:26] <Oddstr13> well, it's 4 lines atleast, lol
[11:26] <Oddstr13> yea
[11:29] <Oddstr13> winds at about 10km, if I understood it correctly: http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-347.86,47.71,396
[11:37] jcoxon (~jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[11:48] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude.
[12:01] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[12:02] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[12:03] <PE2BZ> All solved now. Found another 75 Ohm N Male to BNC female which has ever been used for a Coax network with yellow cables and H4000 taps. Now I throwed away all spreaded N females. Right in time for the Bristol launches !
[12:04] <eroomde> that's expensive
[12:06] <PE2BZ> :-(
[12:06] PE0SAT (~ineo@ns.vgnet.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds
[12:06] <PE2BZ> But I have 4 SDR receivers ;-) so I could spend some money on an antenna matrix switch... However, no one designed one yet to fullfill my wishes
[12:06] PE0SAT (~ineo@ns.vgnet.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[12:14] <DL1SGP> welkom terug PE0SAT
[12:16] jcoxon_ (~jcoxon@140.4.115.87.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[12:17] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[12:19] jcoxon (~jcoxon@201.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[12:27] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp15.signon1.dk.beevpn.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[12:29] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp38.signon3.dk.beevpn.com) joined #highaltitude.
[12:32] <SA6BSS> leaving in a few min. looking for M3
[12:35] <gonzo_> PE2BZ, usually, the 75r centre pins are smaller than 50R. So results in poor connections
[12:36] <adamgreig> gross
[12:36] <gonzo_> Anothe killer of connectors is, when you get a plug hat relies on the coax centre to locate the centre pin
[12:36] <eroomde> PE2BZ: a matrix.... just 3 coaxial relays?
[12:37] <gonzo_> they can draw ip into the bdy, or protrude too far and damage the mating part
[12:38] <gonzo_> PE2BZ, I use the 6 into 1 SmA relays, for selecting antennas and radios
[12:38] <PE2BZ> gonzo_ My 50 ohm adapter (with N Female) was ¨brutely abused¨ by the center pin of the male connector. All 4 legs (that makes a strange female) where much to wide open.
[12:38] <gonzo_> though not a matrix, so only one radio in use at a time
[12:39] <gonzo_> a wrongly assembled connector then?
[12:40] <gonzo_> 75r n/bnc should be identical dims apart from the thinner pin
[12:41] <PE2BZ> erromde gonzo_ I do not actually need a matrix, I want my Logper connected to one SDR but with the possibility to easy switch between direct, bandpass 403, bandpass 434, bandpass 137 or preamplifier between the antenna and the SDR. So, 2 of the 6 into 1 SMA relays with the same control signal could be an option, and bandpass filters and preamps between them.
[12:41] <eroomde> there you go then
[12:42] <gonzo_> I drive my relays from an RS232 controled relay box, so can remotly select, when away from the station. Works really well
[12:42] <gonzo_> and those 6:1 relays seem to be cheaper on the surplus market than standard changeover. Which is good
[12:43] <PE2BZ> DL1GSP came with such an advise, but looking for the 1 to 4 or 1 to 6 kit from (Tsjechie, but how do I write that in English ?)
[12:44] <gonzo_> keep an eye on ebay
[12:45] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds
[12:46] <PE2BZ> Thanks, I will. Currently found even 10 position with reasonable price.
[12:50] <gonzo_> even better. My 6 way is full!
[12:51] <PE2BZ> With 10 way I can connect ¨other antennas¨ to the free inputs... Let me think....
[12:54] <SpeedEvil> Boring.
[12:54] <SpeedEvil> Leetle robot arm, and you can have hundreds!
[12:59] <PE2BZ> Than I need only one cable and have the robot arm replace my antennas on the roof ?
[12:59] <PE2BZ> And then have a telescopic robot arm, about 10 meters extension....
[13:03] <PE2BZ> gonzo_ on a second view the credits go to you, the Female N to F connector was 75 ohm and was forced by my 50 Ohm (Ecoflex 15 type) N Male. That doesn´t go aside for nothing...
[13:03] <PE2BZ> AFC (away for coffee)
[13:03] <SpeedEvil> Actually - dozens of robot arms, each holding an antenna element.
[13:03] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:08] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[13:08] <gonzo_> analogue controled phased array?
[13:09] <gonzo_> the other pain connector is the andrews heliax, well in AR use it is a pain
[13:09] <gonzo_> relies on the coax centre, but onlu good if assembled as per spec and the coax is fixed
[13:10] <gonzo_> using them as rotator loops, repeatedly installed for contests, the centre pin creeps and you get a domino effect
[13:10] <gonzo_> end up with all your heliax on site nadgered
[13:11] <gonzo_> as people swap cables about without stopping to think
[13:11] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[13:12] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) joined #highaltitude.
[13:22] <Oddstr13> http://i.imgur.com/5Ce3qNi.png any idea of what the signal on 433.668 MHz could be?
[13:28] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[13:33] andycamb (~andycamb@host86-139-228-31.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) joined #highaltitude.
[13:40] RocketBoyZ1 (~AndChat51@2a02:c7d:5d4e:da00:e4bb:4469:a633:431c) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds
[13:44] RocketBoyZ1 (~AndChat51@0541e617.skybroadband.com) joined #highaltitude.
[13:44] G8FJG (56868c6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.134.140.106) joined #highaltitude.
[13:46] RocketBoyZ1 (~AndChat51@0541e617.skybroadband.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[13:49] Blafsen (~blafsen@s55970b9e.adsl.online.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[13:49] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[13:59] ibanezmatt13 (~ibanezmat@nat-0-144.soton.ac.uk) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[13:59] Jerry_ (b0fe20a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.254.32.165) joined #highaltitude.
[14:02] G4YHE (521c935d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.28.147.93) joined #highaltitude.
[14:04] <Oddstr13> well. *this* is a ice.net modem screaming on the RFs.
[14:05] <Oddstr13> image posted earlier could be interference from that.
[14:05] <Oddstr13> http://i.imgur.com/fm7Uji2.png
[14:07] <Oddstr13> http://frekvens.nkom.no/Frekvensportalen/tillatelser/1002004.pdf
[14:12] <Oddstr13> http://i.imgur.com/1h4wnUs.png other side of the conversation :P
[14:23] DutchMillbt (5380fbdd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.251.221) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[14:31] Nick change: MoALTz__ -> MoALTz
[14:37] hvjhg (3e1e7eb9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.30.126.185) joined #highaltitude.
[14:39] infaddict (~infaddict@94.7.181.22) joined #highaltitude.
[14:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS did you find it?
[14:48] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks like a bad place to land, lots and lots of forrest
[14:50] gb73d (~gb73d@81-178-186-96.dsl.pipex.com) joined #highaltitude.
[14:56] Andrew_M0NRD (5183b74c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.131.183.76) joined #highaltitude.
[15:02] fox123 (b9496413@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.73.100.19) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[15:06] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[15:09] pe1bia (d47fd175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.127.209.117) joined #highaltitude.
[15:10] pe1bia (d47fd175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.127.209.117) left irc: Client Quit
[15:16] Andrew_M0NRD (5183b74c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.131.183.76) left irc:
[15:17] infaddict (~infaddict@94.7.181.22) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[15:28] <PE2BZ> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110126651/noaa-19-10111421-mcir.jpg
[15:28] <PE2BZ> Results with the replaced N- adapter :-)
[15:39] Nick change: Matt_soton -> mattbrejza
[15:41] <richardeoin> UBSEDS launch in about 20 minutes
[15:41] <PE2BZ> Does anyone knows if it´s possible to set dl-fldigi its windows size ? Now, every time I open it, it goes to 1920 wide and I can not find a menu option to store my resized size.
[15:42] <PE2BZ> 20 minutes + 12 km to rise before I can receive it, gives me time enough for dinner ;-)
[16:00] <DL1SGP> am I wrong or are the SEDS pretty much using the ISH timezone?
[16:00] <jcoxon_> DL1SGP, everyone uses the ISH timezone!
[16:00] <DL1SGP> ISH timezone rocks
[16:01] <DL1SGP> if only employers were thinking the same hehe
[16:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS10 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS10
[16:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS11
[16:05] <arjunnaha> What car trackers can I use for iOS?
[16:05] <Upu> http://tracker.habhub.org
[16:05] <G8FJG> ha beaming straight into qrm/n from here , as been said before pick an "odd" frequency 630 wide open
[16:06] <arjunnaha> Will that upload the chase vehicle location?
[16:11] Steffann (uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lltxnaumxfjtzfob) joined #highaltitude.
[16:15] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[16:17] <arjunnaha> Dw, stupid question
[16:19] G6SUQ_Graham (~IceChat77@cpc10-haye15-2-0-cust176.haye.cable.virginm.net) joined #highaltitude.
[16:25] devtt (4e918acf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.145.138.207) joined #highaltitude.
[16:31] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[16:39] G4YHE (521c935d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.28.147.93) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[16:57] M0ZBU (3e384181@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.56.65.129) joined #highaltitude.
[16:57] BeaverOne (499a2993@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.154.41.147) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[16:57] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[16:58] G4YHE (521c935d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.28.147.93) joined #highaltitude.
[17:03] <PE2BZ> Very slow rising UBSEDS11 ?
[17:04] <G6SUQ_Graham> I think it must be going for a float rather than a up/down
[17:08] <jcoxon_> is it 2 balloons?
[17:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> two seperate flights qualtex 36"
[17:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> as I understand it.
[17:10] <G6SUQ_Graham> according to message on UKHAS group ... 2 balloons, 2 trackers
[17:11] <craag> 2 pre-stretched qualatex
[17:11] <PE2BZ> The path on habmap shows they are supposed to be coming south of the place I live. They end in Antwerpen.
[17:11] <craag> so going for float
[17:12] <jcoxon_> link to track both flights?
[17:13] nlincs_ (92c805e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.200.5.229) joined #highaltitude.
[17:13] <jcoxon_> oh
[17:13] <jcoxon_> did it
[17:17] MikeUoN (80f3028d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.243.2.141) joined #highaltitude.
[17:21] <G6SUQ_Graham> hopefully I will start to get sigs soon, the 'blue line' just passing over me
[17:24] pretec (~Matthias@port-92-195-99-242.dynamic.qsc.de) left irc: Quit: schwund
[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03M3 after 036 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M3
[17:25] u-2e0sgg (tibs01@5751bf78.skybroadband.com) joined #highaltitude.
[17:28] DutchMillbt (5380fbdd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.251.221) joined #highaltitude.
[17:31] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales_
[17:31] mbales (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[17:36] <SM0ULC> evening! who has upgraded sdrsharp to 1.0.0.1410 here? i seem to be stuck with centered tuning no matter what option clicked
[17:46] <Upu> ask on #airspyu SM0ULC
[17:46] <Upu> #airspy
[17:48] mbales (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales
[17:49] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[17:49] u-2e0sgg (tibs01@5751bf78.skybroadband.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[17:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03yl3gbc_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=yl3gbc_chase
[17:54] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
[18:01] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[18:08] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales_
[18:09] nlincs_ (92c805e5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.200.5.229) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[18:11] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[18:15] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #highaltitude.
[18:18] <G6SUQ_Graham> are these balloons spot on their freqs?, I'm hearing nothing
[18:19] <DL1SGP> !dial UBSEDS11
[18:19] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS11 10(24a6): 03100 MHz, 434.601067 MHz, 434.5989 MHz, 12.764 MHz, 434.60057 MHz, 434.601 MHz
[18:20] <DL1SGP> try that G6SUQ_Graham :) one might work
[18:20] <DL1SGP> !dial UBSEDS10
[18:20] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS10 10(44c7): 03434.599064 MHz, 434.5989 MHz, 434.599526 MHz, 434.59849 MHz
[18:20] <G8FJG> yep 434.598,800 dial for 1k and 3 k centers
[18:20] <G6SUQ_Graham> okay, I'm on 434.601 ... still hearing nothing ... will just have to wait
[18:21] <Copyright> SA6BSS: there?
[18:21] <SA6BSS> ye4s
[18:21] <DL1SGP> :)
[18:21] <MikeUoN> Are the SEDs balloons just transmitting their positions?
[18:22] <Copyright> SA6BSS: got time? pm? på svenska :P
[18:22] <SA6BSS> absolut
[18:22] <Copyright> good :9
[18:22] <DL1SGP> there is a certain liquid with that name "Absolut" as well SA6BSS :P
[18:22] <SA6BSS> I know :)
[18:23] <Copyright> vodka :p
[18:23] <DL1SGP> xD
[18:25] mbales_ (~mbales@ip184-187-162-46.sb.sd.cox.net) left irc: Quit: mbales_
[18:29] polymorf_ (~polymorf@AToulouse-656-1-792-252.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #highaltitude.
[18:29] jcoxon_ (~jcoxon@140.4.115.87.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
[18:35] DutchMillbt (5380fbdd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.128.251.221) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[18:37] sm6noc (51e2c855@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.226.200.85) joined #highaltitude.
[18:40] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@x1-6-e8-fc-af-95-86-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 256 seconds
[18:40] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@x1-6-e8-fc-af-95-86-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk) joined #highaltitude.
[18:47] <DL1SGP> hej brian welcome back
[18:50] jcoxon (~jcoxon@140.4.115.87.dyn.plus.net) joined #highaltitude.
[18:52] Babs_ (522fe266@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.47.226.102) joined #highaltitude.
[18:53] Action: craag came back after an hour and wondered why the tracker hadn't updated - UBSEDS barely moving!
[18:53] <DL1SGP> they are in floatish-hover mode
[18:54] <DL1SGP> welcome back craag
[18:54] <craag> :)
[18:54] <DL1SGP> I had same feeling when I came back from dinner :P
[18:55] Blafsen (~blafsen@s55970b9e.adsl.online.nl) left irc:
[18:56] <MikeUoN> Does anyone know how to change the default size of the soldermask stop on a smd pad in Eagle? I believe by default it is set to 0.1mil around pad.
[18:56] <MikeUoN> *0.1mm
[18:56] es5nhc (~tarmo@108-40-71-217.sta.estpak.ee) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[18:56] <fl_0> seems its getting late for us recovering the flight hardware here in Germany
[18:56] <fl_0> ;-)
[18:56] <DL1SGP> hehe fl_0 :)
[18:57] f5apq (5a01647d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.1.100.125) joined #highaltitude.
[18:58] <craag> At current velocity it could be 24h before UBSEDS* hit london.
[18:58] <DL1SGP> bonsoir f5apq
[18:58] <DL1SGP> a horse would be faster :)
[18:58] <DL1SGP> even a donkey
[18:58] <DL1SGP> or a goat
[18:59] <fl_0> craag: ack :D
[18:59] <fl_0> wouldn't call it velocity bte
[18:59] <fl_0> BTW
[18:59] darkstar-20011 (~matt@dsl-217-155-229-6.zen.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[19:00] darkstar-2001 (~matt@dsl-217-155-229-6.zen.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 272 seconds
[19:00] <craag> MikeUoN: 'Edit' -> 'Net Classes'
[19:01] <DL1SGP> velo :P french for bicycle ... even a bicycle is faster, so yea it is not velocity :)
[19:03] f5apq (5a01647d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.1.100.125) left #highaltitude.
[19:03] <MikeUoN> I'm afraid I dont see Net Classes craag
[19:04] <craag> MikeUoN: In the layout view? Near the bottom of the 'edit' menu?
[19:04] <MikeUoN> Ah, I'm the footprint creator
[19:05] <craag> Ah, not sure you can set it in part in library
[19:05] <MikeUoN> hmmm, that leaves me somewhat jiggered then :/
[19:06] <Babs_> is UBSEDS a foil?
[19:06] <MikeUoN> was planning to create tiny pads then use polygon tool to create the custom shaped pads, and placement of soldermask stop etc for se880 module...
[19:06] <fl_0> jepp
[19:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> two seperate foils
[19:06] <fl_0> Babs_: yes
[19:07] <Babs_> solar powered?
[19:07] <MikeUoN> yep
[19:07] <Babs_> nice, do you have pics?
[19:07] <MikeUoN> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2015/october/ubseds_10_and_11_bristol_balloon_launch.htm
[19:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/kXZc-H0OV4w
[19:07] <craag> MikeUoN: Use polygons of tStop and tRestrict?
[19:08] <MikeUoN> yes
[19:08] <fl_0> Babs_: https://twitter.com/bristolseds/status/653222410142007297
[19:09] <MikeUoN> but the default size is 0.1mm, and the pad itself should be 0.2mm across, so the two sides of tstop are somewhat annoying...
[19:10] <Babs_> what was the weight all in ? Only interested because i've just today sent my solar board off and wonder what I can get it down to - i reckon no more than 25g
[19:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7ALB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7ALB-11
[19:10] <Babs_> quite like the pre stretched idea. is it just a case of pumping it up and holding your ears in case it goes off?
[19:11] <MikeUoN> I believe it would be around 10-15g
[19:12] <MikeUoN> Mos of it the battery
[19:12] <Babs_> pretty cool
[19:13] darkstar-2001 (~matt@dsl-217-155-229-6.zen.co.uk) joined #highaltitude.
[19:13] <craag> http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/pico-tracker/
[19:13] <jcoxon> quite a low float altitude
[19:15] darkstar-20011 (~matt@dsl-217-155-229-6.zen.co.uk) left irc: Ping timeout: 265 seconds
[19:15] <richardeoin> UBSEDS10 was 31g, and UBSEDS11 was 25g
[19:15] <MikeUoN> apologies, I was way off. :)
[19:16] <MikeUoN> Was that down to the charging circuitry?
[19:16] <jcoxon> hey richardeoin
[19:16] <richardeoin> more than usual because of having both a energiser lithium and solar panels, and also insulation
[19:16] <MikeUoN> ah ok
[19:16] <MikeUoN> will you be doing a write up?
[19:17] <richardeoin> Yes previous flights have been in the 10 - 15g range
[19:17] <Babs_> richardeoin - are you charging a battery, or just using the erergiser when there is no sun, and the solar when there is?
[19:17] <richardeoin> I'll add something on the website later today or tomorrow http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/flights.html
[19:18] <MikeUoN> thx very much
[19:18] <richardeoin> hey jcoxon
[19:19] <richardeoin> Babs_ It'll use the energiser first and then maybe run from solar
[19:19] <Babs_> great thanks richardeoin
[19:20] <richardeoin> yes the pre-stretching is fun, there's a little bit more info on the website http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/hab/flight/2015/06/07/ubseds6.html
[19:21] <richardeoin> takes a while, and you can get loud bangs when you're not expecting them
[19:21] Steffann (uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lltxnaumxfjtzfob) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
[19:22] sm6noc (51e2c855@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.226.200.85) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[19:22] <MikeUoN> lol
[19:23] <MikeUoN> that gif has an almost trance like quality to it
[19:23] <Upu> not exactly setting the horizontal speed record but for floater this is good :)
[19:30] <jcoxon> i'd call that a float
[19:34] u-2e0sgg (~tibs01@5751bf78.skybroadband.com) joined #highaltitude.
[19:34] Nick change: u-2e0sgg -> TIBS01
[19:35] <jcoxon> whats causing the errors?
[19:37] <DL1SGP> back, looks like not over germany yet :D
[19:39] <DL1SGP> two HABs are hanging in the sky, far away they'd like to fly, the winds are way to low, so all is going slow
[19:39] <gonzo_> ubseds11 looks like it's just about to overfly a pub i was in a few months ago
[19:42] <gonzo_> they flew one not long ago that followed almost this exact path
[19:42] <gonzo_> over a friends house near banwell and then the village of priddy
[19:43] <MikeUoN> With a few tweaks that could almost be the HAB'ing Haiku DL1SGP xD
[19:52] <pd3t> !flights
[19:52] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Current flights: 03GHS1 10(fa0a), 03UBSEDS10 434.600 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(44c7), 03UBSEDS11 434.602 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(24a6)
[19:52] <pd3t> !dial 44c7
[19:52] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS10 10(44c7): 03434.5989 MHz, 434.599136 MHz, 434.59849 MHz, 434.599526 MHz, 434.6 MHz, 434.5987 MHz
[19:55] Nick change: jokke__ -> jokke_
[20:00] <eroomde> i just worked out that in about 20 months Apollo 13 (the film) will be historically nearer apollo 13 the mission than we will be the film
[20:01] <eroomde> oh no wait that's bollocks
[20:01] <eroomde> 2020
[20:01] <eroomde> carry on
[20:01] <adamgreig> http://xkcd.com/1491/large/
[20:02] <adamgreig> yea looks about 5 years out from that horizon there
[20:03] M0ZBU (3e384181@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.56.65.129) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[20:03] <eroomde> how have i not seen that before?
[20:03] <eroomde> that's a wonderful chart
[20:04] <adamgreig> yea
[20:04] <MikeUoN> v cool
[20:05] <gonzo_nb> I was watching apollo13 film a few days ago. and reading through the air-grouns comms transcripts from the actual flight
[20:05] <gonzo_nb> to see how close the dialogue was to real
[20:06] <adamgreig> have you seen http://apollo13.spacelog.org/ ?
[20:10] jcoxon (~jcoxon@140.4.115.87.dyn.plus.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[20:11] <gonzo_nb> nope, I have now
[20:11] <adamgreig> it's really nice. has transcripts of a bunch of missions with acronyms and pictures etc
[20:11] <adamgreig> made by russss here and others aiui
[20:11] <gonzo_nb> I had the original typed up scans from nasa's site
[20:12] <adamgreig> you can click 'view origin' bottom left for those too
[20:12] <adamgreig> there is something to be said for the typewritten ones :P
[20:12] <gonzo_nb> and have already been through the film and pausing to google every abbrev and process
[20:12] <adamgreig> heh
[20:12] <russss> yeah spacelog was my idea which we made at a /dev/fort (bfirsh was involved too)
[20:12] vk5fsck (~linux-ham@fsf/member/linux-ham) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds
[20:12] hvjhg (3e1e7eb9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.30.126.185) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[20:13] <gonzo_nb> on the 40th an of apollo 11, nasa streamed all the ari-ground tapes, in real time
[20:13] <adamgreig> oh, didn't see you have vostok 1 up
[20:13] <adamgreig> could do with a translation too :P
[20:13] <Vostok_> huh?
[20:14] <adamgreig> the russian space mission :P
[20:14] <gonzo_nb> I was racing home to catch up with the flight. On the edge of my seat, having to remind myself it was 40 yrs ago
[20:14] <russss> adamgreig: google translate works quite well with it, we were just playing with that one really since the transcript (unusually) found its way out
[20:14] gb73d (~gb73d@81-178-186-96.dsl.pipex.com) left irc:
[20:14] <gonzo_nb> how exiting it mudt have been at the time!
[20:15] <gonzo_nb> I'm old, but not that old
[20:15] <russss> spacelog doesn't get that much love these days, we did put a new mission up a few months ago but I'm not sure if it's actually linked off the front page because there are still issues
[20:17] vk5fsck (~linux-ham@fsf/member/linux-ham) joined #highaltitude.
[20:19] ON6LS (5b57a1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.87.161.192) joined #highaltitude.
[20:19] TC1DFT (~TC1DFT@90-145-170-188.bbserv.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[20:19] TC1DFT_ (~TC1DFT@90-145-170-188.bbserv.nl) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[20:19] Jerry_ (b0fe20a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.254.32.165) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[20:42] Lemml (~andreas@p4FEEA2AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[20:47] fab4space (~fab4space@AMontpellier-656-1-427-70.w92-143.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #highaltitude.
[21:12] number10 (569e89e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.158.137.224) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[21:20] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[21:21] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[21:25] SA6BSS (~kvirc@81-236-232-232-no30.tbcn.telia.com) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[21:27] SA6BSS (~kvirc@81-236-232-232-no30.tbcn.telia.com) joined #highaltitude.
[21:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SA6BSS did you recover your payload?
[21:32] <gonzo_> these ubseds don't seem to want to move much
[21:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no they are pretty static
[21:39] Steffann (uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iczwlksllirbaide) joined #highaltitude.
[21:42] ON6LS (5b57a1c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.87.161.192) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[21:45] G8FJG (56868c6a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.134.140.106) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[21:45] <G6SUQ_Graham> I don't expect much movement o/night; there's almost no wind here
[21:47] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp38.signon3.dk.beevpn.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 260 seconds
[21:48] Babs_ (522fe266@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.47.226.102) left irc: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
[21:49] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp6.signon3.dk.beevpn.com) joined #highaltitude.
[21:53] <pd3t> !dial 44c7
[21:53] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS10 10(44c7): 03434.599526 MHz, 434.599115 MHz, 434.5987 MHz, 434.59846 MHz
[21:59] <pd3t> can anyone confirm above freqs?
[21:59] <G6SUQ_Graham> yes, I've got '11 on 434.599
[22:00] <lz1dev> .payload 44c7
[22:00] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Payload 03UBSEDS10 10(44c7) 03$$UBSEDS10 - no transmissions
[22:01] <lz1dev> .flight 44c7
[22:01] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Flight 10(44c7): 03UBSEDS10 434.600 CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 15:00 from 03opp Students Union, Bristol, Bristol, City of Bristol BS8, UK 10(51.456,-2.613)
[22:01] <lz1dev> :>
[22:09] <MikeUoN> Night all, thanks for your help today.
[22:09] <MikeUoN> Will work on the footprint some more tomorrow
[22:09] MikeUoN (80f3028d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.243.2.141) left irc: Quit: Page closed
[22:10] OZ1SKY_Brian (~Brian@x1-6-e8-fc-af-95-86-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer
[22:11] LazyLeopard (~irc-clien@chocky.lazyleopard.org.uk) left irc: Quit: Now QRT
[22:12] <G6SUQ_Graham> I will leave this all running overnight so there is good coverage until the morning
[22:16] SV1NJX (55497f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.73.127.3) joined #highaltitude.
[22:17] SV1NJX (55497f03@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.73.127.3) left #highaltitude.
[22:20] <fsphil> what's flying this-evening?
[22:25] Ian_ (4d66af83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.102.175.131) left #highaltitude.
[22:25] Ian_ (4d66af83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.102.175.131) joined #highaltitude.
[22:34] K9JKM (~chatzilla@c-73-45-120-241.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #highaltitude.
[22:36] <gonzo_> two ubseds picos
[22:45] <gonzo_> shame that fldigi will only listen to max 3khz
[22:45] <gonzo_> otherwise I could get both of these payloads
[22:46] <craag> it'll do 4 khz if you follow the instructions in his email
[22:53] <gonzo_> ah, is that on the google group?
[22:56] <fsphil> it can do more than that but requires you to modify the source :)
[22:56] <craag> Yes. Basically just change the fft settings for the waterfall -> 4000 Hz
[22:57] <gonzo_> rr found it
[23:00] <gonzo_> great, decoding both
[23:06] Johnwulp (~Johnwulp@dhcp-077-248-223-039.chello.nl) left irc: Ping timeout: 250 seconds
[23:09] Johnwulp (~Johnwulp@dhcp-077-248-223-039.chello.nl) joined #highaltitude.
[23:12] Laurenceb_ (~Laurence@host86-190-79-174.range86-190.btcentralplus.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 255 seconds
[23:15] polymorf_ (~polymorf@AToulouse-656-1-792-252.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) left irc: Remote host closed the connection
[23:16] K9JKM (~chatzilla@c-73-45-120-241.hsd1.il.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 41.0.1/20150929144111]
[23:30] chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) left irc: Quit: Leaving
[23:43] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp6.signon3.dk.beevpn.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 240 seconds
[23:45] DL1SGP (~felix64@dhcp15.signon4.dk.beevpn.com) joined #highaltitude.
[23:49] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[23:51] Steffann (uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iczwlksllirbaide) left irc: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
[00:00] --- Mon Oct 12 2015