highaltitude.log.20151010

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[00:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS-55 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-55
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[01:03] <Lunar_Lander> good night :)
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[02:55] <DoYouKnow> I took the gps antenna out of a ublox-7 usb and put it on an rtlsdr
[02:55] <DoYouKnow> it was one of the $10 ublox on ebay
[02:56] <DoYouKnow> I haven't measured the satellites yet, but gain looks fairly good judging from the noise floor
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[03:14] <Ian_> DoYouKnow, please report back when you have more info. Sounds interesting in a marginal sort of way :)
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[06:32] <Chimpusmax_ios> ghsbill: good luck
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[06:50] <eroomde> HAPPY BIRTHDAY jcoxon
[06:51] <eroomde> 40 years young today
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[06:53] <PE2BZ> !flights
[06:53] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03BGS Launch 10(5fa3), 03GHS1 10(fa0a)
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[07:02] <jcoxon> eroomde, 40 years!
[07:02] <jcoxon> how old do you think i am
[07:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI_chase
[07:05] <eroomde> 40
[07:06] <eroomde> in base something
[07:06] <jcoxon> hmmmm
[07:06] <jcoxon> just cause you are a man child :-p
[07:07] <eroomde> tis I
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[07:08] <jcoxon> hehe
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[07:18] <Upu> apparently AVA is in a tree. In a swamp. Attempted recovery again today
[07:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EAGLE1 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EAGLE1
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[07:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EAGLE2 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EAGLE2
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[07:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> ohhh, ps-55 is up
[07:36] <garymortimer> cool
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[07:50] <pb0ahx> !flights
[07:50] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03BGS Launch 10(5fa3), 03GHS1 10(fa0a)
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[07:53] <DL1SGP> Good Morning all :)
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[07:57] <pb0ahx> DL1SGP, morning
[07:57] <PE2BZ> Good morning ! (away from keyboard for daily business)
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[07:58] <Ben__> Morning
[07:58] <DL1SGP> Guten Morgen Lemml und mclane_
[07:58] <DL1SGP> mornin Ben__
[07:58] <mclane_> Hallo
[07:59] <Lemml> huhu DL1SGP
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[08:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> Do we have any details on the EAGLE LoRa freq / mode ?
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[08:19] <daveake> At a guess, 300,8,N,2 and mode 1
[08:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup its more the Freq ....
[08:19] <daveake> Well if you scroll up ....
[08:19] <daveake> ghsbill>21 With huge thanks to daveake and James at RPF, launching tomorrow 9.30am, RTTY 434.125 (Eagle1) and LoRa 434.300 (Eagle2).
[08:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah I had but obviously missedit!
[08:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> tks Dave
[08:20] <daveake> I spotted it as my nick highlighted it :-)
[08:20] <DL1SGP> morning daveake :) any news about the roof lander?
[08:21] <daveake> I got that back on Monday
[08:21] <daveake> I did tweet it at the time, and updated my blog after
[08:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> The details are always missing on the iCal output for some reason I don't think they are adding the info!
[08:21] <DL1SGP> w00t great news thanks daveake
[08:21] <daveake> The line/chute/latex were hanging over the edge of the roof
[08:22] <daveake> asI'd expected from the flight direction
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[08:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> daveake, Any obvious reason why one copy of the gateway prog sends in the SSDV data fine but doesn't save files locally ?
[08:23] <mclane_> is there some kind of "websdr" for LoRa existing in the uk?
[08:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> I notice it uses /tmp/ for some stuff is this from the root ?
[08:23] <daveake> "one copy" ?
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[08:23] <daveake> I'll check. I want to put the uploading in a separate thread so it doesn't block on slow internet
[08:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> I'm running two RPI's each with two chips one works fine the other doesn't save the images locally same executable
[08:24] <daveake> same exe .. must be permissions
[08:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
[08:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats what I think but can't see the problem!
[08:26] <daveake> check /tmp isn't full
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[08:27] <daveake> 1 sec I'll browse the code
[08:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> cd lor
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[08:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup no error messages just went to get the images yesterday and none present must be something obvious but just can't see it
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[08:31] <daveake> ssdv installed ?
[08:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes its sending the data up no problem
[08:32] <daveake> No that's not needed to upload
[08:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> true its sent direct
[08:32] <daveake> Incoming packets are uploaded anyway
[08:32] <daveake> ssdv is iused to convert the ssdv file to jpg
[08:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah that's a point hangon maybe it didn't
[08:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah that might be it when does SSDV get installed it doesn't seem to be a seperate command
[08:36] <daveake> Depends how you "installed" it
[08:37] <daveake> sudo make install should add the command
[08:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> Think I'll have to merge your latest changes and reinstall that looks like it might be the problem
[08:37] <daveake> "mine" = "fsphil's" :)
[08:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> No your latest version of the gateway I meant
[08:38] <daveake> Same answer :-)
[08:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh yes they were his changes I see
[08:38] <daveake> Phil went through it making it 100% compiler happy
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[08:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> right won't play now as the flight should be up in a bit but later I think!
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[08:50] <craag> mclane_: I have a remote lora rx connected to the same antenna as the Farnham Websdr, but that's the closest there is.
[08:50] <craag> The idea is that it's mostly unattended
[08:51] <craag> Especially once this 'calling channel' is implemented, I won't have to touch it and it'll just automatically tune to each flight
[08:51] <daveake> Well it's implemented, just not standardised or in use yet :)
[08:52] <craag> :D
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[08:59] <craag> I'm grabbing a lot of parts from farnell next week, will also get bits to complete matt's trackers and then look at getting habpack from them working through your gateway.
[09:00] <daveake> That's be good
[09:00] <daveake> -s+d
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[09:00] <daveake> I'm going to add an uplink
[09:00] <daveake> Firstly, "re-send packets xyz for image n"
[09:01] <craag> :)
[09:01] <daveake> then do something at the transmitter, like "send image, listen for a second, continue"
[09:01] <garymortimer> just making a lora setup down here, want to use it on a vulture to see if that can repeat some of our other animals whilst mooching about day to day
[09:01] <craag> hehe nice garymortimer
[09:02] <daveake> do other animals often repeat on vultures ?
[09:02] <daveake> depends on how dead they were, I guess
[09:02] <garymortimer> It was great watching the three balloons last week, just the ticket for our work
[09:02] <daveake> probably my favourite flight to date
[09:02] <garymortimer> sadly vulture numbers are crashing big time poisonings
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[09:04] <garymortimer> yeah I see big potential for driving down the cost of collars and repeating animals in deep valleys at range all cracking stuff
[09:05] <craag> sounds awesome
[09:05] <daveake> it does
[09:05] <daveake> jealous
[09:07] <garymortimer> we are very lucky gives us a pass into all sorts of interesting places
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[09:08] <jcoxon> that sounds like an awesome application
[09:08] <eroomde> lora against horror
[09:09] <jcoxon> could use ukhasnet :-p
[09:09] <garymortimer> well I have access to vultures and they fly hundreds of km at altitude then return and fuel up should work, yes thats exactly what I was thinking
[09:09] <garymortimer> ukhasnet
[09:10] <jcoxon> garymortimer, https://ukhas.net/
[09:10] <G8FJG> hi all what mode would the LoRa transmission be today? 1?
[09:10] <eroomde> you would be the first people to ever mesh vultures
[09:10] <garymortimer> the pictures could be handy as well in protected nests, we have cameras and radio links at the minute but again very expensive
[09:11] <craag> G8FJG: Yes, mode 1 I believe
[09:11] <garymortimer> if multiple eggs are laid one is removed and hatched in a zoo
[09:12] <fsphil> could do a sheep mesh network here. not sure that'd be as useful/interesting
[09:12] <fsphil> loralamb
[09:12] <eroomde> the sheep would be closer together
[09:12] <eroomde> so it could operate at a higher baaad rate
[09:12] <garymortimer> I think that's already been tried the silicon fell or some such
[09:13] <fsphil> excellent
[09:13] <daveake> Running on (or in) a shepherd's pi
[09:14] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[09:14] Action: daveake awaits joke about mint source
[09:16] <jcoxon> which is hte official arduino these days?
[09:16] <jcoxon> is it .cc
[09:17] <Upu> yup
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[09:21] <eroomde> btw more people need to know that it's jcoxon's birthday today
[09:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wasn't it his 40th /-)
[09:21] <craag> \o/
[09:21] #highaltitude: mode change '+o eroomde' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[09:21] <craag> Happy birthday jcoxon !
[09:21] <jcoxon> I'm not 40!
[09:21] <fsphil> lol
[09:22] #highaltitude: mode change '+o jcoxon' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[09:22] <jcoxon> just in case
[09:22] Topic changed on #highaltitude by eroomde!edmoore@kraken.habhub.org: Welcome to #highaltitude - discuss anything
[09:22] <eroomde> to do with high altitude projects! Please read the wiki - http://wiki.ukhas.org.uk ,
[09:22] <eroomde> oh fail
[09:22] <eroomde> i give up
[09:22] <eroomde> this net connection is so flakey
[09:23] Topic changed on #highaltitude by eroomde!edmoore@kraken.habhub.org: Happy Birthday jcoxon! Also, balloons.
[09:23] <fsphil> hah
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[09:26] <eroomde> good topic doncha think RocketBoy
[09:27] <RocketBoy> ah - yes - I didnt know
[09:27] <RocketBoy> must be getting old by now
[09:27] <eroomde> 40
[09:28] <RocketBoy> :-)
[09:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> I bet all the balloons going up today have that printed on them ;-)
[09:30] <eroomde> pro tip - 10% IPA in a squeegy bottle of water for wetting soldering sponges stops the sponges moulding
[09:30] <eroomde> forgetting to use that mix for the sponge in the gas soldering iron tin and not using it for 6 months ensures it turns mouldy
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[09:31] <RocketBoy> top tip eroomde
[09:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SA6CCS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6CCS
[09:32] <RocketBoy> basically eroomde stily some beer one day
[09:32] <RocketBoy> spilt
[09:33] <Chimpusmax_ios> Do we have a freq for eagle2
[09:33] <Martin_G4FUI> Never one to re-invent the wheel, eroomde re-discovers penicillin!
[09:33] <eroomde> makes soldering have that authentic student union smell
[09:34] <daveake> RTTY 434.125 (Eagle1) and LoRa 434.300 (Eagle2)
[09:34] <eroomde> Eagle20 fox 3
[09:34] <RocketBoy> im wating for the eagle has landed
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[09:37] <Chimpusmax_ios> daveake: cheers
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[09:42] <pb0ahx> !flights
[09:42] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Current flights: 03BGS Launch 10(5fa3), 03GHS1 10(fa0a)
[09:42] <pb0ahx> !dial 5fa3
[09:42] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03BGS2 10(5fa3): none
[09:42] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03BGS1 10(5fa3): 03434.0998 MHz
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[09:43] <pb0ahx> !dial fa0a
[09:43] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03EAGLE1 10(fa0a): none
[09:43] <SpacenearUS> 03pb0ahx: Latest dials for 03EAGLE2 10(fa0a): none
[09:43] Nick change: pb0ahx -> Herman-PB0AHX
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[09:46] <infaddict> !flights
[09:46] <SpacenearUS> 03infaddict: Current flights: 03BGS Launch 10(5fa3), 03GHS1 10(fa0a)
[09:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> infaddict, How's the move going ?
[09:51] <infaddict> hey Geoff-G8DHE, how are you? Move is on track, scheduled for 1st or 2nd week in November, solicitors just finalising some stuff.... but....
[09:52] <infaddict> Intriguing late breaking development this week is that I've been head hunted by a local company
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[09:52] <infaddict> So got some options to weigh up if I get offered that job
[09:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Sounds good, hope it all goes OK, bit hectic here wife's in hospital so thats fun!
[09:52] <infaddict> oh no hope she gets well soon
[09:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh that's just what you needed!
[09:53] <infaddict> yer so some big family decisions to make within the next week!
[09:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> might be along job ... likely that a liver transplant needed :-(
[09:54] <infaddict> urgh hope it all works out
[09:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> So long as the contrat isn't signed you should be able to change mind
[09:55] <infaddict> Yep we haven't signed or exchanged final contracts so legally we can pull out. We will lose some fees and a £1000 deposit on new house. But we'd sacrifice that to stay close to family/friends.
[09:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Better flying weather down this way!
[09:55] <infaddict> But keeping option open until I get (or dont get) a firm offer
[09:55] <infaddict> I know mate, HAB is on the list of positives for moving haha
[09:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Good luck with it either way!
[09:56] <infaddict> thx - hoping when all the madness dies down I can get back into the hobby a bit more
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[09:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> The Eagle is well into ISH
[09:57] <DL1SGP> hah I just had the same thought Geoff-G8DHE
[09:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> It started a picture outside (107) but not seen it since
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[10:01] <eroomde> shame the vulcan isn't coming down this far south
[10:01] <eroomde> it's flying over work though
[10:01] <eroomde> but i won't be at work
[10:04] <infaddict> yer i am hoping to see/hear it today
[10:04] <infaddict> Clear skies here at mo
[10:07] <dbrooke> just 'it' makes me feel old, I remember a scramble of several at Finningley air display (before it was Doncaster Sheffield ${random_yorkshire_village} International)
[10:08] <eroomde> yep you're old
[10:08] <eroomde> not like us berlin wall babies
[10:08] <russss> It's coming further south tomorrow
[10:08] <craag> only as far as popham though
[10:09] <eroomde> it's overflying where i would be, were i not on the isle of wight
[10:09] <eroomde> it has come over work a few times though
[10:09] <eroomde> and i was at cambridge when they were refurbishing it at Marshalls for a while
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[10:10] <eroomde> so quite a number of test flights overhead
[10:10] <dbrooke> also a fantastic low level display (due to cloud) at Barton when I was at Uni
[10:10] <eroomde> but still, it'd be nice to see its last
[10:10] <dbrooke> eroomde: I'm even older than jcoxon 8-)
[10:11] <eroomde> as if it were possible!
[10:11] <Upu> saw it 2 weekends ago
[10:11] <Upu> wonderful thing
[10:11] <russss> This weekend isn't quite the last
[10:11] <craag> Annoyingly im at an event in the new forest tomorrow, else I'd drive up to see it
[10:12] <russss> they're going to do some more flights before the end of the month
[10:12] <Upu> it makes sound transcend that point where it goes from aural to physical
[10:13] <eroomde> do you know where russss?
[10:13] <G8FJG> saw 1 back in the 60's do a touch and GO at Brixham IOW .....still deaf after all these years....then it did a "wing over" at top of climb so we coluld see the paint job
[10:14] <craag> Their website says 'to be advised' 'mid-late october'
[10:14] <dbrooke> Upu: that show at Barton, it pulled up, pointing it's engines straight at us, and climbed at full power through the cloud
[10:14] <Upu> yeah my wife said its not that loud then it did that
[10:15] <Upu> https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zJoGZd3-Qg5U.k3u8IUZTll6M
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[10:16] <JR-RPF> RTTY 434.125 (Eagle1) and LoRa 434.300 (Eagle2). launching v soon. I'm not there but trying to support launch team
[10:16] <russss> eroomde: they haven't said yet
[10:16] <eroomde> maybe a loop to moscow and back
[10:17] <dbrooke> oh, it's actually going from/to Finningley!
[10:17] <russss> Latest info is here http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/710/82/Latest-on-National-Tour.html
[10:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Eagle is up
[10:18] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[10:19] <JR-RPF> Very nervous teacher on the ground is not relieved to have released (eagle)
[10:19] <JR-RPF> *is now*
[10:19] <craag> :)
[10:20] <craag> First solo launches are always tough
[10:20] <craag> I accidentally released the balloon without the payload first time :D
[10:20] <craag> (only a pico but..)
[10:21] <eroomde> i've done that twice
[10:21] <eroomde> one was a 3kg balloon
[10:21] <eroomde> definitely not pico
[10:22] <craag> I can imagine a gust of wind + the lift from that must have been challenging
[10:22] <eroomde> it had about 15kg of lift
[10:22] <craag> eek
[10:23] <G8FJG> lora good, decodes at the blue line
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[10:26] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[10:28] <G8FJG> eagle 1 434.125800 dial for 1k center
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[10:33] <Herman-PB0AHX> EAGLE1 autoconfig is ok ??
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[10:37] <craag> ascent rate :(
[10:37] <PE2BZ> !payload eagle2
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03EAGLE2 10(fa0a) 03$$EAGLE2 - no transmissions
[10:37] <craag> PE2BZ: That's the lora one
[10:38] <PE2BZ> craag thanks, what frequency / mode ?
[10:38] <craag> 434.300 mode 1
[10:38] <PE2BZ> craag Tnx
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[10:42] <Martin_G4FUI> Thanks _g8fjg - just emerging from the noise with me ...
[10:45] <Herman-PB0AHX> is eagle1 ssdv ???
[10:45] <craag> Herman-PB0AHX: yes
[10:45] <craag> http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[10:45] <Herman-PB0AHX> tnx
[10:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Only images from eagle2 ?
[10:46] <craag> lora decoding well before rtty here
[10:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oops they there now
[10:46] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: It does rarely send telem too
[10:47] <Herman-PB0AHX> a lot of local qrm here grgrgrgr
[10:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> I checked aerlier on no images so left it on eagle2 alone, but they have appeared now!
[10:47] <craag> ah ok
[10:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> on my screen look of 720 shift is that ok ?
[10:50] <garymortimer> lora trackers are not on the map yet or are they?
[10:51] <craag> garymortimer: The gateway software doesn't upload gateway location at the moment
[10:51] <craag> so most of them aren't
[10:51] <garymortimer> ok thought so
[10:52] <chimpusmax_win> Someone mesntioned about changing call sign in dl-fldigi to saem as Lora RX and then it shows you
[10:53] <craag> yep that's what I do
[10:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Glebe_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Glebe_chase
[10:53] <craag> get dl-fldigi to upload one 'listener telemetry' packet as your lora callsign
[10:54] <craag> then you'll appear for 24h or so
[10:54] <chimpusmax_win> I dont think you even need it to uplad antyhing just be online
[10:54] <craag> You need it to say 'Listener Telemetry uploaded' in the bar at the bottom
[10:55] <craag> then you can switch back :)
[10:55] <chimpusmax_win> image 51 is nice of coast
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[10:55] <craag> 'packet' is dl-fldigi => habitat packet, rather than radio packet
[10:55] <chimpusmax_win> ok
[10:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> happens a couple of seconds after hitting aply(dl)
[11:04] <Upu> dbrooke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mri8dW_iDY&feature=youtu.be
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[11:13] <garymortimer> Whats not to like about the Vulcan
[11:14] <Chimpusmax_ios> Was great to get in a cockpit at Coventry airport. Fair few older pilots around to chat to as well.
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[11:21] <dbrooke> Upu: nice, though the PC speakers don't really cut it for the full effect
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[11:36] <M0XIN> I used to live in Lincoln when the Vulcans were stationed at RAF Waddington. Awesome sight (and sound) when these were roaming about
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[11:39] <M0XIN> !dial eagle1
[11:39] <SpacenearUS> 03M0XIN: Latest dials for 03EAGLE1 10(fa0a): 03434.1258 MHz, 434.12562 MHz, 434.1243 MHz, 434.125499 MHz, 434.1251 MHz, 434.1256 MHz, 434.5 MHz, 434.12593 MHz
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[11:41] <M0XIN> !dial eagle2
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> 03M0XIN: Latest dials for 03EAGLE2 10(fa0a): none
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[11:45] <G8FJG> eagle 2 434.305 according to raspi
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[11:49] <Ben__> Hi G8FJG - what do you use with the RasPi to receive telemetry from HABs?
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[11:49] <M0XIN> Hmmm
[11:49] <M0XIN> Can't seem to get anything from EAGLE1
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[11:49] <G8FJG> Ben ..hang on
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[11:51] <M0XIN> Is EAGLE1 LoRa only?
[11:51] <craag> eagle1 = rtty, eagle2 = lora
[11:51] <G8FJG> Ben http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=71_63&product_id=126
[11:52] <M0XIN> craag: Thanks
[11:53] <M0XIN> Receiving nothing here at all. Some nasty local pulsing QRM here drowning a lot though
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[11:55] <G8FJG> Ben and a homemade 14 ele yagi and h/b lna
[11:58] <Ben__> Thanks Geoff - looks good
[12:00] <Ben__> Thanks G8FJG
[12:03] <JR-RPF> G8FJG homemade how?
[12:03] <G8FJG> which antenna or lna
[12:03] <JR-RPF> writing an RPI blog post on how people can track our #skycademy flights
[12:04] <JR-RPF> both, instructions for noobs
[12:04] <JR-RPF> arrggh brb
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[12:04] <craag> I've suggest at most a colinear antenna for noobs
[12:04] <craag> yagis need to be pointed
[12:05] <garymortimer> For local flights a simple wire dipole works well for me
[12:05] <G8FJG> 40 years of tarting about with radio in one line :-))
[12:05] <garymortimer> beam is too much IMHO
[12:06] <craag> Yeah wire dipole is a good noob thing
[12:06] <craag> I first tracked with one and an rtlsdr :)
[12:06] <LazyLeopard> ...and for distant flights a good (reasonably high) colinear works well.
[12:07] <garymortimer> last one we flew the local hams took an hour faffing with antennas and not one of them was contributing data a somewhat pointless exercise to be miles away saying you can hear rtty!
[12:07] <G8FJG> lna like this one http://www.ok2kkw.com/00003016/lna_oz1pif/lna_oz1pif_en.htm
[12:08] <G8FJG> but not really for beginners
[12:08] <garymortimer> diamond x50 into an alinco dj x11 is what I have at home http://www.diamondantenna.net/x50a.html
[12:09] <garymortimer> when under a balloon just thw whip on the receiver has been enough
[12:09] <craag> rtlsdr + dipole < rtlsdr + colinear (eg x50) < rtlsdr + habamp + colinear
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK5QI_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK5QI_chase
[12:09] <G8FJG> antenna like this http://www.g0ksc.co.uk/18el-432mhz-lfa-yagi.html?eprivacy=1
[12:09] <G8FJG> but built to 0.1mm accuracy
[12:10] <pe2bz__> PE2BZ is grumbling... Pi finds LoRa images, but couldn´t connect to server. Bad day for Internet problems. Only IRC is working, all webbrowsers are down...
[12:10] <craag> :/
[12:10] <eroomde> wow
[12:10] <craag> irc will be there in the apocalypse
[12:10] <eroomde> lora problems
[12:10] <eroomde> noranuff solutions
[12:11] <G8FJG> my station really built for eme/ weak signal work
[12:12] <pe2bz__> I´m getting mad... Clicking the LNA link from G8FJG brings me straight to that page. ssdv.habhub.org and UKHAD on Google and the tracker map don´t work.
[12:13] <craag> pe2bz__: ipv6 issues?
[12:14] <pe2bz__> craag we are on 200 MB Fiber but still ipv4 only....
[12:15] <craag> hmm
[12:15] <pe2bz__> The strange thing is that my cloud software can reach me to tell me that my cloud device is no longer online...
[12:16] <pe2bz__> but my solder iron is still working and the dra818u is still laying around..
[12:19] <eroomde> https://twitter.com/greengart/status/652467597561217024
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[12:20] <garymortimer> fox and hounds Great Moulton looks nice
[12:20] <Herman-PB0AHX> team EAGLE1 congrats was a nice flight for me here good decodes tnx
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[12:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BAL254-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BAL254-11
[12:36] <garymortimer> textbook chase
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[12:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
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[12:40] <G8FJG> couple of eagle 2 pictures received without packet loss..133km and in noisy part of spectrum for me..excellent
[12:42] <G8FJG> blue line approaches..
[12:44] <garymortimer> its seen the power lines
[12:45] <chimpusmax_win> viaduct to get stuck on
[12:45] <garymortimer> i see that as well
[12:46] <garymortimer> nice mill, they are normally pretty
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[12:47] <garymortimer> on the common would be a result
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[12:48] <garymortimer> g8khw for the win
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[12:50] <garymortimer> round to the mill and walk down I reckon top banana
[12:51] <jcoxon> Upu, parcel arrived, thanks!
[12:51] <Upu> nps
[12:51] <eroomde> happy bday
[12:54] <jcoxon> yes yes eroomde
[12:57] <eroomde> gotta have parcels on your bday
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[13:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-11
[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-9
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W3EAX-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W3EAX-12
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[13:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AG6SC-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AG6SC-12
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[13:40] <tweetBot> @IntTaxExpert: #FPSBS #tweetinUK #ukbIZ #BizAds #fashion #ultimate #luxury Jaeger #dress http://t.co/mUOsji8aRR #UKSOPRO #UKHas& http://t.co/Dn7Kp9Pqv3
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[13:45] <Upu> spammy crap
[13:48] <eroomde> maybs add a blacklist
[13:49] <Laurenceb_> yeah but we became tax experts in the process
[13:50] <eroomde> easier to pay someone else to be your tax expert
[13:50] <eroomde> by the time you need a tax expert you can usually afford to
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[14:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD5GOM-11 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[14:02] <TC1DFT> !flights
[14:02] <SpacenearUS> 03TC1DFT: Current flights: 03BGS Launch 10(5fa3), 03GHS1 10(fa0a)
[14:02] <TC1DFT> does anyone know the freq of agena1?
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[14:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KB1KVR after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1KVR
[14:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5HDN-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5HDN-11
[14:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W5ADC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5ADC-11
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[14:24] Action: Laurenceb_ is playing with CFD
[14:24] <Laurenceb_> putting dimples on a rocket nosecone reduces drag in some cases
[14:24] <Laurenceb_> golf ball effect I guess
[14:32] <SpeedEvil> Odd.
[14:33] <SpeedEvil> I guess it doesn't matter at full scale
[14:34] <Laurenceb_> its a small effect, but it seems to exist
[14:34] <Laurenceb_> gives a 100m change in apogee altitude on a 140km rockoon
[14:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N5YML-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N5YML-7
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[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0HIP-7 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0HIP-7
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[14:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSYchase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSYchase
[14:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSY - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSY
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[14:54] <pe2bz__> TC1DFT Agena1 was at 434.650 but flew yesterday. It started floating and then possibly the battery got frozen because it flew longer than expected. Have heard no reports about it being recovered.
[15:03] <fsphil> oh, upside down ssdv again
[15:03] <fsphil> this happens a lot now
[15:08] <eroomde> who needs testing
[15:08] <eroomde> there's a maker revolution happening
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[15:22] <pa3bwe> GA dr all, where can I find info on freq AGENA1 ?
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[15:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 037 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[17:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0ZC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W0ZC-11
[17:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0ZC-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W0ZC-12
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[17:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0FUL-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0FUL-11
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[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, yesterday I told you we lost on cansat
[17:53] <Lunar_Lander> I just learned we made second place
[17:53] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[17:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-55 after 037 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-55
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[18:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:30] <MikeUoN> happy bday jcoxon
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[19:36] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[19:36] <Lunar_Lander> hi MikeUoN
[19:36] <MikeUoN> Hi LL :)
[19:36] <Lunar_Lander> how's life?
[19:36] <MikeUoN> Stuck in computer room atm, my laptop's harddrive failed the other day. :/
[19:36] <Lunar_Lander> :(
[19:36] <MikeUoN> you?
[19:37] <Lunar_Lander> my cansat team came second in the german competition
[19:37] <Lunar_Lander> that was nice
[19:38] <MikeUoN> woah! good job
[19:38] <MikeUoN> do you know how many competitors there were?
[19:39] <Lunar_Lander> 10
[19:39] <MikeUoN> nice
[19:39] <Lunar_Lander> an all-girls team from Cologne won and now competes on the EU competiton 2016
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[19:40] <MikeUoN> good for them.
[19:40] <MikeUoN> Do you plan to do it again in 2016?
[19:49] <MikeUoN> I've looked at a couple of pico tracker modules and they seem to be using M8C modules from UBlox. What advantages do they have over something smaller like the G7020, aside from needing a few external components?
[19:50] <MikeUoN> Not that I can find any information on the G7020's datasheets that suggests what values those components should be but...
[19:51] <SA6BSS> c version works with 1,65 to 3,6V , thats handy on a pico :)
[19:51] <SA6BSS> smaler then a max 8, hmm
[19:51] <SA6BSS> its a pain to dolder as it is
[19:51] <SA6BSS> *solder
[19:53] <MikeUoN> hmm
[19:53] <SA6BSS> put a ublox on the scale, its 0,5grams
[19:54] <MikeUoN> G7020 goes down to 1.5V supply ;)
[19:55] <SA6BSS> ok
[19:55] <MikeUoN> indeed there is not muchdifference between the two, you are quite right
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> MikeUoN, sorry didn't pay attention
[19:59] <MikeUoN> np :)
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> well I don't know if they can apply once more
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> what I hoped was that they'd do some HAB now
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[19:59] <MikeUoN> ah thats a shame
[20:00] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:00] <MikeUoN> LoL well good luck!
[20:01] <Lunar_Lander> :) thanks
[20:14] <craag> g7020 is the IC in the MAX7 I believe
[20:16] <craag> So you just have to add the parts that are normally under the MAX-module can (xtal + passives)
[20:16] <craag> as for finding out what parts those are, ublox will tell you if you buy enough of them ;)
[20:17] <MikeUoN> lol fair enough... thanks craag :P
[20:17] <MikeUoN> I wonder if I ask very nicely... ;)
[20:17] <craag> hehe you can try, no-one had any luck though
[20:17] <MikeUoN> :/ ah well
[20:18] <craag> a couple of people did build boards for the g7020, and got some cheap ones off chinese marketplaces.
[20:18] <craag> They worked - but took a lot of effort
[20:18] <craag> and a lot of guessing I think
[20:18] <MikeUoN> Amazing how just a few passives here and there can make such a difference...
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[20:20] <craag> if you want a small pico tracker gps
[20:20] <craag> there's a jupiter one that was linked a while back
[20:20] <craag> maxes out at 18km, but that's ok for pico
[20:20] <craag> and had some nice low power modes
[20:20] <craag> jupiter se880
[20:20] <MikeUoN> Cool, I shall investigate that!
[20:21] <MikeUoN> thanks very much.
[20:21] <craag> don't think anyone's tried it yet, but looks great on paper
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[20:22] <MikeUoN> woah indeed it does
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[20:30] <MikeUoN> some nice pages on tcxo control with the se880
[20:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03XABEN0 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=XABEN0
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[21:15] <MikeUoN> time to design a breakout for that then, thanks again craag
[21:16] <craag> np, I think it was ed who first linked it here.
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[22:33] <MikeUoN> Does anyone know how to change the size of the solder resist removal from a smd pad in Eagle?
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