highaltitude.log.20150914

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[00:11] <amell> !whereis RIA-20
[00:11] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: 03RIA-20 is over 03139A08, Bogotá, Colombia 10(4.62623,-74.13619) at 032570 meters
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[00:18] <adamgreig> amell: alas no!
[00:19] <adamgreig> been too busy prepping everything for the states trip
[00:19] <adamgreig> gutted as I really wanted to go see
[00:19] <adamgreig> late night nosecone sanding http://imgur.com/fe6FqrT
[00:19] <amell> very good :)
[00:19] <amell> do you know a chap called david walker?
[00:19] <adamgreig> yep
[00:19] <adamgreig> he was there launching his L2 right?
[00:19] <adamgreig> how did that go?
[00:20] <amell> he got his L1.
[00:20] <adamgreig> aah L1
[00:20] <amell> i will issue his cert shortly
[00:20] <adamgreig> cool cool
[00:20] <adamgreig> nice
[00:21] <amell> i asked him if he was going to launch O8000 - he said no :)
[00:21] <amell> but he did say he knows you
[00:21] <adamgreig> yea
[00:21] <adamgreig> he's part of CUSF too and designed the launch rail for it
[00:21] <adamgreig> but isn't coming out to the states
[00:22] <amell> that nose cone. ally tipped?
[00:22] <adamgreig> yep
[00:22] <amell> impressive PPE. I dont bother. I just spit it out.
[00:22] <adamgreig> very fine fibreglass dust makes my lungs sad
[00:22] <adamgreig> nosecone getting primer: http://i.imgur.com/Th3rxEN.jpg
[00:23] <adamgreig> got a batch of cambridge blue spraypaint mixed up today :)
[00:23] <amell> what max velocity are you expecting?
[00:23] <adamgreig> mach 2.8 or so
[00:23] <adamgreig> possibly up to mach 3
[00:23] <amell> well, thats going to mess your paintjob for sure.
[00:23] <adamgreig> yep :p
[00:24] <adamgreig> it'l look nice before though
[00:24] <adamgreig> beats unpainted fibreglass with some construction notes still on it
[00:24] <amell> interesting launch yesterday.
[00:24] <adamgreig> oh?
[00:25] <amell> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwzEd-JV89U fast forward the first minute...
[00:26] <amell> his main came out at 7500ft. found it 3.5 miles away
[00:26] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 7500 ft = 2286 m
[00:26] <amell> doesnt look like he had shear pins.
[00:27] <bobsaget> in real units, what is it about people from the U.K.?
[00:27] <adamgreig> lol
[00:27] <adamgreig> the weird thign is we use ft and miles officially anyway
[00:27] <bobsaget> yes i'm a pilot, fly all over the world, only one country still uses meters as flight altitudes
[00:27] <bobsaget> and it is one real backwards country
[00:28] <amell> which one? :)
[00:28] <bobsaget> China
[00:28] <amell> interesting
[00:28] <bobsaget> Russia just finally stopped
[00:28] <bobsaget> but China, what a bunch of ..... well, ask any western pilot what he thinks of flying in that country
[00:28] <amell> how do they differentiate on the radio?
[00:28] <bobsaget> you get cleared metric altitudes, like 3000 meters
[00:28] <amell> proceed to FL40
[00:28] <bobsaget> we use the back of our checklist
[00:29] <bobsaget> which has conversion of 9,800 ft on it
[00:29] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 9,800 ft = 2987 m
[00:29] <amell> they say metres ?
[00:29] <bobsaget> and we set that on the FCU
[00:29] <bobsaget> in bad english yes
[00:29] <bobsaget> its caused more than a few accidents
[00:29] <bobsaget> all modern airliners are built to fly in feet
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[02:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-53 after 037 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-53
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[04:54] <SM0ULC> oh, HB9FDK-12 arrived over japan
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[08:34] <Oddstr13> would it be feasible to use a hydrogen balloon to get a wire antenna up in the air?
[08:35] <craag> Yes, but a tethered balloon won't work well in any amount of wind
[08:35] <craag> You really want a 'helikite' or similar
[08:35] <Oddstr13> funny that, quite windy today, hehe
[08:36] <craag> half-kite, half-balloon
[08:36] <Sirius-BE> quite possible that HB9FDK-12 flew over north Korea ...
[08:36] <gonzo__> craag, just started watching the amsat uk talks on YT. Noticed they are not on the BATC site. Is that intentional?
[08:36] <Oddstr13> it's just that antennas for the lower bands get bigger than I can feasibly put up by stringing it to anything
[08:37] <craag> gonzo__: That is. We'll be hosting video recordings on youtube from now.
[08:37] <gonzo__> lower bands, you mean 23cm?
[08:37] <craag> Oddstr13: It's often done for top band verticals!
[08:37] <gonzo__> craag, ta. I know where to look now. Takes some of the laod off the batc server
[08:37] <eroomde> helikites are really great!
[08:38] <Oddstr13> well, at 27MHz, a halfwave dipole would be somewhere around 5-6m
[08:38] Action: eroomde puts his impartial face on
[08:38] <eroomde> no but srsly, helikites are really good
[08:38] <eroomde> rock solid in wind
[08:39] <gonzo__> just out of interest, is there any activity on 6.8MHz these days. Not listened for ages
[08:39] <eroomde> if you get one above a certain size it'll come with a box to hot-melt a slit into the envelope to bring it down if it detaches from its mooring
[08:39] <eroomde> i will have built that box
[08:39] <eroomde> it can provide you a ublox max8 if you need one in an emergency
[08:39] <craag> gonzo__: It puts less demand on our storage, and they've got a very nice UI, along with auto-transcoding so we can just upload the 1080p version and it can sort out a version for the people on dialup..
[08:40] <craag> lol eroomde
[08:40] <Oddstr13> anyways, need to go help mom with some stuff, I'll be back later
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[08:50] <Maxell> !whereis HB9FDK-12
[08:50] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: 03HB9FDK-12 was over 03Sanru, Shimokawa, Kamikawa District, Hokkaido Prefecture 098-1211, Japan 10(44.39634,142.6257) at 038601 meters about 032 hours ago
[08:54] <Maxell> !whereis PS-53
[08:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: 03PS-53 was over 03Madera County, CA, USA 10(37.64,-119.383) at 038362 meters about 03an hour ago
[08:55] <Maxell> Nice. Green tracker lines now also follow the earths curve :)
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[08:59] <Vaizki> hysplit for HB9FDK-12 looks pretty funky
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[09:30] <eroomde> machomebrew
[09:30] <eroomde> giveup
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[09:46] <michal_f> hello
[09:47] <Laurenceb> wait wtf
[09:47] <eroomde> greetings
[09:47] <Laurenceb> PS over Cali
[09:48] <Laurenceb> oh launched there
[09:53] <michal_f> anyone from Poland around ?
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[10:23] <michal_f> do I need to add balloon weight to payload weight when calculating gas filling amount ?
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[10:24] <craag> michal_f: If you're measuring gas volume, yes.
[10:25] <michal_f> and if I use this calculator: http://randomaerospace.com/Random_Aerospace/Balloons.html ?
[10:25] <daveake> That and http://habhub.org/calc/ include the balloon weight for you
[10:25] <daveake> Which is why the ask for "payload mass"
[10:25] <daveake> they
[10:25] <michal_f> ok, thx
[10:25] <michal_f> so 1000g Hwoyee weight 1000g as the name says - right? :)
[10:26] <daveake> which is your box plus parachute plus line and anything else hanging from the balloon
[10:26] <eroomde> michal_f: yes, that's the mass (not weight /pedant) of the balloon
[10:26] <michal_f> thanks daveake, all clear now
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[10:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> michal_f: god Polish Forum http://sp7pki.iq24.pl/default.asp?grupa=230409
[10:46] <michal_f> thx, I already watch it. might post soon :)
[10:47] <michal_f> I need advice on gas suppliers
[10:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> oki
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[12:03] <Oddstr13> seeing a weak signal on 145.750, possibly nfm (carrier seems fading)
[12:04] <Oddstr13> any idea of what it might be?
[12:06] <Oddstr13> searching in nkom's frequency database suggests it's likely amateur
[12:08] <Oddstr13> got a stronger signal on 145.725, a series of beeps
[12:28] <Oddstr13> managed to grab the whole transmission on 145.725 MHz, looks like a beacon of sort "LA7ORR K E E E ."
[12:29] <Oddstr13> oh, nice, it's a relativly local repeater
[12:29] <Oddstr13> http://www.la2t.no/la7orr-skal-opp/
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[12:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYCON1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYCON1
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[12:38] <fsphil> most stuff on VHF will be fairly nearby
[12:39] <Oddstr13> I'm seeing stuff on the waterfall that isn't audible tho
[12:40] <Oddstr13> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4306267/ShareX/2015/09/2015-09-14_14-40-05.png
[12:41] <fsphil> the strongest lines there are probably coming of ethernet cables
[12:41] <Oddstr13> most of it is noise, yea
[12:41] <Oddstr13> the ones that arn't constand, however, are actual signals
[12:42] <fsphil> well they're all actual signals :) just some are intentional
[12:42] <Oddstr13> there's some visible on 144.8, and some on 145.75
[12:42] <Oddstr13> well, yea
[12:42] <fsphil> nice seeing the whole of the 2M band in one go
[12:43] <Oddstr13> kinda sad I can't really hear anything on APRS
[12:43] <Oddstr13> too weak signals
[12:44] <Oddstr13> I guess I could try messing around with the gain some more
[12:47] <Oddstr13> are there any charts around, showing how a dipole would perform over different frequencies?
[12:50] <eroomde> depends on how you define 'perform'
[12:50] <eroomde> what do you want to measure?
[12:50] <Oddstr13> just want to visualize how wide of a bandwith a dipole cut to a certain length has
[12:51] <Oddstr13> just receiving with a RTL-SDR at present
[12:53] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> A search for "dipole bandwidth" gets plenty of discussion and calculators
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[13:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ER0UTM - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ER0UTM
[13:10] <Oddstr13> removed a TV antenna extension cable between my RTL-SDR and the antenna, let's see if that improved the signal much
[13:15] <Oddstr13> can't say I see much of a difference.
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[13:17] <mfa298> that's going to depend a bit on the quality of the coax and connectors. Some of the TV coax used in the UK you could quite hapily replaced with a wet piece of string.
[13:18] <Oddstr13> came in some TV cable set
[13:18] <eroomde> Oddstr13: how long is the extension cable?
[13:18] <Oddstr13> gold plated contacts, not that that says much
[13:18] <Oddstr13> 2-3m or something? H havn't really measured it
[13:18] <cm13g09> hey mfa298 - how goes?
[13:19] <mfa298> afternoon cm13g09, too much work still ...
[13:19] <Oddstr13> mfa298: the cable looks like it is decent quality
[13:21] <Oddstr13> which is more than I can say about the connector I used for the antenna
[13:21] <cm13g09> mfa298: tell me about it
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[13:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL1NBR-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL1NBR-13
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[16:25] <Oddstr13> https://www.saleae.com/ any experience with these? I'm considering getting either a Logic Pro 8 or 16. Any recommendations?
[16:27] <craag> I only have digital-only clone hardware, but the software is fantastic.
[16:27] <chris_99> ive got one of the clones too, i use the sigrok software which works well too
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[16:29] <Laurenceb> yeah i just use a clone
[16:29] <Oddstr13> the originals are rather expensive tools, but they /do/ promise quality, to the point of full warranty for 3 years, as far as I can see
[16:30] <eroomde> i have a logic 16
[16:30] <eroomde> love it
[16:30] <eroomde> great thing
[16:30] <Oddstr13> the pro 16?
[16:31] <eroomde> no the older logic 16
[16:31] <eroomde> no longer sold i think
[16:31] <eroomde> but it's really very good
[16:31] <jonsowman> certainly is
[16:31] <Oddstr13> not advertized on their website, but I seem to remember seeing them on sparkfun a while back. just making sure :P
[16:32] <mattbrejza> even the old logic 8 works great (they were also giving them away to students at one point)
[16:32] <Oddstr13> anyways, are the 8 extra channels worth the price?
[16:32] <eroomde> hmm, depends on what you'll be doing
[16:32] <eroomde> tbh you *probably* wont need 16 for most hab-type stuff
[16:33] <eroomde> you'll probably only ever be looking at an spi bus or a uart or whatever
[16:33] <Oddstr13> no idea of what I'll be using it for yet
[16:34] <eroomde> if you're likely to do any parallel bus stuff you'll probably appreciate more channels
[16:34] <Oddstr13> I have a bunch of old wifi routers lying around, that I'd love to figure out how to upcycle
[16:35] <eroomde> i'm not sure they'd be that flexible as anything other than routers
[16:35] <Oddstr13> and, yes, I do have some parallel LCD modules
[16:36] <Oddstr13> well, most of them run linux as far as I can see, and if I could find some free GPIOs I might be able to use them for something
[16:36] <Oddstr13> I don't think I have any that are capable of running openwrt, but, would be fun to hack some at them anyway
[16:38] <Oddstr13> I have two of this thing forexample; https://oddstr13.openshell.no/blog/post/1/
[16:40] <Oddstr13> but, anyway, the one time I've /really/ wanted a logic, is when I was debuging the I2C bus on the Pi, connected to a attiny/mega running the Cosa core, implementing I2C slave
[16:41] <Oddstr13> turns out the Pi's I2C bus really isn't usable for anything that does clock streaching, but I would've loved to see what the actual bus looked like
[16:45] <craag> I'm yet to use more than 6 channels on mine, 8 is probably enough for 99.9% of hobbyist stuff
[16:45] <Oddstr13> true
[16:46] <Miek> the cheap chinese ones are like £5 on ebay, can't go wrong with that
[16:47] <craag> Yeah if you're jsut after digital debugging - ebay ones do work well
[16:47] <craag> you don't get the nice clippy leads, or metal box
[16:48] <Oddstr13> you know, there is something tempting about the solid design that metal box gives :P
[16:48] <craag> ikr :)
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[16:49] <eroomde> it also supports continued development of their software
[16:49] <eroomde> which is good
[16:50] <Oddstr13> yea, I'm more considering the pro8 vs the pro16, as opposed to the original vs a chinese knockoff
[16:50] <eroomde> cool
[16:51] <Oddstr13> if I just wanted something cheap, the bus pirate would've been in the mix :P
[16:52] <Miek> btw, i'm not really advocating the clones - i use sigrok with the cheap analysers
[16:53] <adamgreig> I've had my logic 8 for.. 8 years now actually
[16:53] <adamgreig> it's wonderful
[16:53] <Oddstr13> dw, I have plenty of cheap china stuff myself :P
[16:54] <adamgreig> pro8 is probably fine unless you already know you'll want 16 channels I would suspect
[16:54] <Oddstr13> anyways, I have to go take a shover, and go vote
[16:54] <Oddstr13> yea, should probably go for the pro8
[16:56] <eroomde> put the money saved towards a decent scope
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[17:13] <mfa298> reading back a bit, I think the other feature the original logic 16 had over the logic 8 was 1.8v
[17:14] <mfa298> and I think faster speeds (although that's probably redundant for hab
[17:27] <eroomde> not an issue with either pro
[17:27] <eroomde> but the plain logic 8 has limited sample rate for things like a fast SPI bus
[17:27] <eroomde> where you'd need to share the 100ms/s rate across 4 pins, giving each pin 25ms/s
[17:28] <eroomde> which realistically limits you to about 6mb/s spi
[17:28] <eroomde> capitalise the units as appropriate
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[17:30] <eroomde> that's not hugely fast
[17:30] <eroomde> e.g. if you were trying to read in from a basic gps sampler, well that's 16Mb/s
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[18:43] <SM0ULC> Not much signals from PS53 / 54
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[18:55] <SA6BSS> hab gopro found after 2 years, http://petapixel.com/2015/09/11/lost-weather-balloon-gopro-found-2-years-later-with-grand-canyon-money-shot/
[18:56] <lz1dev> nice shot
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[19:07] <SM0ULC> " it landed out of cell phone tower range" in absolutely nowhere in Arizona.. how unexpected...
[19:08] <russss> looks like that footage was worth the wait
[19:11] <russss> heh, GoPro offered them a hero4 in the youtube comments
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[19:45] <Laurenceb_> Q: why is the marshall space flight center in Alabama?
[19:45] <Laurenceb_> A: so they can get out of Alabama ASAP
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[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[20:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03toyo_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=toyo_chase
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[21:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-12 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-12
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[21:26] <Vaizki> HB9FDK-12 is doing loops now over japan
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[22:49] <amell> eroomde: you didnt come to midland sky did you?
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[22:52] <amell> adamgreig: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8fxrtwnm5gnv4ih/11225309_10153468297219792_6237437808114703637_o.jpg?dl=0
[22:52] <adamgreig> looking good! what motor?
[22:52] <amell> Contrail M-2281 hybrid
[22:53] <amell> it was freaking awesome
[22:53] <adamgreig> nice
[22:53] <amell> rocket is ¼ CF airframe tube
[22:53] <adamgreig> seems a bit overthick?
[22:53] <amell> it needed the weight! It was a beast
[22:54] <adamgreig> hah, nice
[22:54] <amell> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xRwrsPT5sQ and put the sound up to max
[22:54] <adamgreig> cf is nice
[22:54] <adamgreig> well
[22:54] <adamgreig> to behold anyway
[22:54] <adamgreig> less fun to work with ;)
[22:55] <amell> sure but its indestructible
[22:55] <adamgreig> yea, that's the problem when it comes to working with it :P
[22:56] <adamgreig> we woulda had a CF nosecone for m2 except that then antennas become this huge deal
[22:56] <amell> laurenceb: check this out.
[22:56] <amell> oh yeah, you dont want CF for any radio stuff.
[22:56] <adamgreig> it makes life more complicated
[22:57] <amell> you can embed antennas in the outer surface
[22:57] <adamgreig> yea
[22:57] <adamgreig> and you can do interesting thigns with slits in the cf
[22:57] <adamgreig> conformal antennas wrapped around rockets is quite well studied in the literature for some reason ;)
[22:57] <adamgreig> but physical manufacture remains difficult
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[23:05] <Laurenceb_> hi amell
[23:05] <Laurenceb_> sounds fun
[23:06] Action: Laurenceb_ has been making tons of progress since conference
[23:06] <Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/BB3kE3k.gifv
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[23:06] <amell> cant see. sorry, what is it? catherine wheel?
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> Cesaroni in the middle
[23:07] <Laurenceb_> too much detritus around lol
[23:07] <amell> i dont follow. how are you making it spin?
[23:07] <amell> too far away
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[23:08] <Laurenceb_> Estes A motor on the side with a release mechanism
[23:08] <Laurenceb_> spin it up to 20krpm then flies off the side
[23:08] <amell> oh i see. do you have a closer pic?
[23:09] <Laurenceb_> only poor res.. just a sec
[23:09] <Laurenceb_> I should take more photos lol
[23:09] <SpeedEvil> Very silly and brute force. But that can be awesome too.
[23:09] <amell> girondola is what you want
[23:10] <Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/3YLa8Ec.jpg
[23:10] <Laurenceb_> crappy phone cam
[23:10] <Laurenceb_> launch rail at top
[23:11] <amell> now i understand. so you got the motor up to 20k rpm and it was stable?
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[23:11] <amell> im surprised it doesnt vibrate like crazy with that weight on the side
[23:11] <amell> counterweight on the other side?
[23:12] <Laurenceb_> no
[23:12] <Laurenceb_> it doesnt need to be balanced to rotate around its inertia axis
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> next stage is an Estes A10-PT in the bottom
[23:13] <SpeedEvil> Counterweight would only slow accelleration
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> that white cylinder is a centripetal accel triggered igniter
[23:13] <amell> you measured the rpm?
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> yes
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> via audio
[23:13] <Laurenceb_> and video - frame by frame
[23:14] <amell> could do it with a laser
[23:14] <Laurenceb_> not necessary
[23:14] <Laurenceb_> its very easy to measure speed
[23:15] <amell> have you ignited the motor yet?
[23:15] <Laurenceb_> yes
[23:15] <Laurenceb_> ignited a few in vacuum chamber
[23:15] <amell> were your neighbours displeased?
[23:16] <amell> i mean the AP cesaroni not the Estes A
[23:16] <Laurenceb_> this was at Leos "headquarters"
[23:16] <Laurenceb_> yes
[23:16] <amell> you actually ignited a CTI motor inside a vac chamber.
[23:16] <Laurenceb_> yes
[23:16] <amell> wow. would love to see a video of that
[23:17] <Laurenceb_> hmm I dont have it to hand
[23:17] <Laurenceb_> it is veyr boring
[23:17] <Laurenceb_> basically what the Register did, but we used a silicone nozzle plug
[23:17] <amell> which one is it?
[23:17] <amell> classic? smoky sam?
[23:17] <Laurenceb_> Pro24 F motor, I forget
[23:17] <Laurenceb_> classic i think
[23:17] <amell> i would have thought for your application you want max impulse, low burn time
[23:18] <Laurenceb_> yes
[23:18] <Laurenceb_> hence Classic for the flight version
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[23:18] <amell> vmax
[23:18] <Laurenceb_> thats short burn iirc
[23:18] <Laurenceb_> lower ISP
[23:18] <Laurenceb_> as well
[23:18] <amell> high peak thrust
[23:19] <Laurenceb_> thats not important for this application
[23:19] <Laurenceb_> my next test is going to be an aerodynamic simulation
[23:19] <Laurenceb_> same as last test but with an Estes A10-PT in the bottom
[23:19] <amell> for the 3 grain motors, does look like classic has the best TI, but 1.5s burn which may be too long
[23:19] <Laurenceb_> that will be a very close simulation to a Cesaroni ignition at 36km
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> the burn time isnt very important
[23:20] <amell> how do you make that out?
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> although short burn gives higher accel and more stress on the CW tracker
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> air drag is like ~40m/s delta V
[23:20] <Laurenceb_> motor is about 1420m/s
[23:21] <Laurenceb_> burn time isnt very important apart from how it affects payload accel
[23:21] <amell> yes, but short burn high peak impulse will tend to be more directionally stable?
[23:21] <Laurenceb_> no
[23:21] <Laurenceb_> less stable
[23:21] <amell> rifle bullet to quote an example
[23:22] <Laurenceb_> off axis thrust etc becomes more of a problem at high thrust
[23:22] <amell> does it have fins?
[23:23] <Laurenceb_> no
[23:23] <Laurenceb_> I'm currently delayed waiting for Quest igniters
[23:23] <Laurenceb_> its a pita to import them
[23:23] <SpeedEvil> hah
[23:23] <amell> yes it is.
[23:24] <SpeedEvil> for low-in-the-atmosphere, add canted fins to make the spin push it
[23:24] <Laurenceb_> couldnt find a UK supplier and its the only way to light the A10-PT with my Cesaroni ignition circuit
[23:24] <amell> use vmax igniters&
[23:24] <amell> the CTI vmax igniters are dipped in green stuff, its fast!
[23:24] <Laurenceb_> I need to light an Estes
[23:24] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[23:25] <amell> Have a look at Klima igniters then
[23:25] <Laurenceb_> I need to get some sleep, have to run a trade show stall all day tomorrow :-/
[23:25] <Laurenceb_> yeah Kilma are only slightly less current than Estes
[23:25] <amell> me too. but not the trade stuff&
[23:25] <amell> later
[23:25] <Laurenceb_> my ignition unit is designed for ~1.25A - Cesaroni igniters
[23:25] <Laurenceb_> catch you later
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