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[05:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KZNHAB2 after 036 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KZNHAB2
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[06:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-6 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-6
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[06:58] <SM0ULC> Morning!
[07:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> morn
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[07:01] <ZS5LT> hi guys testing KZNHAB3 please authorise payload doc.
[07:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> join habhub channel and pate flight doc
[07:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> *paste
[07:02] <Upu> if you're just testing doesn't need to be authorised
[07:02] <Upu> however
[07:02] <Upu> [2015-09-12 07:02:38,697] DEBUG habitat.parser MainThread: No configuration doc for 'KZNHAB3' found
[07:02] <Upu> [2015-09-12 07:02:38,637] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: Parsing [ascii] '$$KZNHAB3,72,07:02:24,-29.81573,30.99967,00016,0,0,8,21,4910*762B\n' (a612c2bd15b12bac827e30df6ac206d2841a5118a9f2edff43596d6b002a28b7) from ZS5LT
[07:02] <Upu> [2015-09-12 07:02:25,598] INFO habitat.parser MainThread: All attempts to parse failed
[07:03] <Upu> you do need a payload document
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[07:03] <Upu> http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
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[07:05] <ZS5LT> hab payload doc id:b5a7a7abef456e9ad955580631e3fabf
[07:06] <ZS5LT> testing using sdr and virtual cable
[07:06] <HB9RSU> we cutted the SPL1 flight into a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=2L7oncIkybE
[07:07] <HB9RSU> Ifyou cannot display it in yout country (it contains a sequence of Karajian) then try the Facebook link: https://video-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xtp1/v/t43.1792-2/11860955_1162259517121736_1237469736_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjIwNDksInJsYSI6NDA5Nn0%3D&rl=2049&vabr=1366&oh=cb82440480ff3724198ca85eafb44d1f&oe=55F3F6E3
[07:07] <daveake> ZS5LT That payload doc is wrong
[07:08] <daveake> It is for payload ID KZNHAB2 not KZNHAB3
[07:08] <ZS5LT> ok i copied and pasted bad me. iw ill redo
[07:12] <ZS5LT> new doc id : b5a7a7abef456e9ad955580631e9a227
[07:13] <chimpusmaximus> HR9RSU: enjoyed the video
[07:13] <daveake> ZS5LT We don't need the payload doc ID ... it doesn't need to be approved
[07:13] <daveake> But you do need to get it right
[07:13] <daveake> And it isn't ... http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[07:14] <daveake> "No configuration doc for 'KZNHAB3' found" means you don't have it right
[07:14] <ZS5LT> thanks guys will try again later, will do offline testing.
[07:14] <daveake> No you need to test online
[07:15] <daveake> This is for the PITS board but it does tell you what to do http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/index.php?id=getting-on-the-map
[07:16] <daveake> Specifically, yhe callsign in here needs to match your tracker http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/data/uploads/payload_doc/payload_6.jpg
[07:16] <RealBorg> HB9RSU, you managed to get a launchpermission in switzerland?
[07:18] <HB9RSU> You don't need one as long as you meet some criterias by the Federal Office of Civil Aviation (FOCA)
[07:21] <RealBorg> these criterias include notifying ATC?
[07:21] <HB9RSU> nope
[07:21] <HB9RSU> only if you don't meet this criterias
[07:21] <ZS5LT> Hi Guys, I jumped the gun, but i will redo docs again later, I have the sdr working , now i am adding an external GPS to the laptop as it will be used in a mobile tracking unit. Thanks for all the help.
[07:22] <RealBorg> I see swiss air safety has a bad reputation for a reason
[07:23] <HB9RSU> does it have?
[07:26] <RealBorg> there was the ueberlingen disaster
[07:27] <RealBorg> there was crossair 3597
[07:27] <HB9RSU> This was Skyguide and has nothing to do with that sorry.
[07:28] <RealBorg> it's bad to close the airspace for everything but commercial aviation (like austria does)
[07:29] <RealBorg> but living by the big sky theory and is even worse
[07:29] <RealBorg> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_sky_theory
[07:32] <HB9RSU> And you think Switzerland is a complete uncontrolled airspace?? Oh dear...
[07:35] <RealBorg> no, but - as always - the flow of information is the most important thing in aviation
[07:35] <SM0ULC> HB9RSU: what are the criterias for "unannonced" flights?
[07:35] <RealBorg> pilots should know where they could encounter a balloon
[07:37] <HB9RSU> Volume < 30m3, payload < 2kg, only Helium, 5km outside CTR
[07:40] <SM0ULC> HB9RSU: ah
[07:47] <ldc> btw, does anyone know the regulations for italy?
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[07:53] <ldc> looks like one needs to get a NOTAM (notice to air men)
[07:54] <ldc> 45 days before launch :/
[07:56] <HB9RSU> thats silly. Nobody will know where your balloon will go then. I would say anything if you announce the flight path an hour prior launch. But so you only fullfil regulatory paperwork
[07:56] <ldc> it also needs to be "radar reflective" from 0.2 to 2.7 GHz and have an "antenna breaking limit" of 230N, whatever that means.
[07:57] <ldc> sounds overly complicated
[07:57] <HB9RSU> on board RADARs have way higer frequencies
[07:58] <ldc> I think it's about making the balloon detectable by ground radars operating in that frequency range
[07:58] <ldc> there's also a "or be equipped in a way that is detectable by ground radar"
[07:59] <HB9RSU> ok, reasonable
[07:59] <ldc> what's the separation force referring to? "less than 230N to separate payload/parachute from the balloon"
[08:02] <eroomde> ldc: making a radar reflector should be easy enough
[08:02] <eroomde> the 230N breaking limit is part of the icao rules - i'm not sure how much notice of it people usually take
[08:03] <HB9RSU> a RADAR reflector is IMHO reasonable and can be build very lightweight
[08:03] <ldc> I see
[08:04] <eroomde> you can make a reflector by covering cardboard in foil (or finding some other light metalitcised sheet) and cutting slots such that it comes together https://www.balloonchallenge.org/radar/1.jpg
[08:05] <eroomde> i believe there have been some italians flyers here before
[08:05] <eroomde> but i'm afriad tht i'm not sure they're still around
[08:06] <eroomde> but it's certainly been done with success
[08:06] <ldc> there's a quite active community when it comes to decoding "official" balloons
[08:06] <ldc> http://www.radiosonde.eu/RS00-I/RS02I-I.html
[08:06] <ldc> rs92kl
[08:09] <eroomde> yeah
[08:09] <eroomde> and you have some beautiful landscape to photo from altitude
[08:09] <eroomde> though i guess a bit long and thin relative to the normal wind direction, which could make it interesting!
[08:09] <ldc> yeah that was the idea :)
[08:09] <ldc> impressed by that picture that went viral on reddit yesterday
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[08:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP2SGF_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP2SGF_chase
[08:17] <eroomde> ldc: yeah it is a nice photo
[08:17] <eroomde> note that 99% of the curvature of the earth you see there is actually the curvature of the terrible gopro lens :)
[08:20] <RealBorg> <ldc> there's also a "or be equipped in a way that is detectable by ground radar"
[08:20] <RealBorg> ads-b would fulfil this...
[08:20] <eroomde> no don't use ads-b
[08:20] <eroomde> ignore that
[08:21] <RealBorg> I think ads-b will be mandatory in 10 years
[08:21] <eroomde> then if your fortelling comes to pass, we'll solve that problem in ten years
[08:21] <eroomde> until now, it's a can of worms
[08:23] <RealBorg> it would tell any aircraft above the horizon exactly where your balloon is and that it is a balloon
[08:23] <eroomde> yes i know
[08:24] <RealBorg> all we need is some icao and sqawk codes
[08:24] <RealBorg> and of course the permission to broadcast its position
[08:24] <eroomde> it's a can of worms
[08:25] <RealBorg> balloons usually broadcast their position anyway
[08:25] <eroomde> go and find me an ads-b transpoder
[08:25] <eroomde> less than 100g
[08:25] <eroomde> less than 100 euros/ 150 dollars
[08:26] <eroomde> uses less than about 100mW total power
[08:26] <RealBorg> and I believe TCAS resolutions already consider when one of the planes is ascending/descending
[08:27] <RealBorg> ads-b is well documented, it's only the question of sending it
[08:27] <RealBorg> I guess many transmitters can be used to send ads-b
[08:27] <RealBorg> given the right frequency and PSK
[08:31] <SM0ULC> RealBorg: a big problem will be broken adsb-transmitters etc
[08:39] <SM0ULC> the lowlow flights of DC2EH-6
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[09:53] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP3VSS after 0315 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3VSS
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[10:01] <amell> Hey. Who did the John smiths beer constellation launch? It's not at Cambridge or Elsworth.
[10:01] <amell> Just saw the video on Facebook
[10:01] <amell> daveake: one of yours?
[10:03] <amell> Doesn't seem to be daveakes back yard either. Not a site I recognise
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[10:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZR6LJK_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZR6LJK_chase
[10:24] <gonzo_> I know that dave takes wine in the chase car, to buy his way into sites or reciovery. But flying john-smiths directly is a bit unsubtle!
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[10:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SR0FLY after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SR0FLY
[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP0FLY-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP0FLY-11
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[10:55] <infaddict> !flights
[10:55] <SpacenearUS> 03infaddict: Current flights: 03SR0FLY - CP34 10(676e)
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[11:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9FDK-4 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-4
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[11:45] <chimpusmaximus> Thought i would share my hole cutting idea. Needed to make a decent hol ein my payload for camera lens etc and with out having a hole saw i decided to try a 3d printed one.. https://goo.gl/photos/gx9UpN2BLX1YWKXi6 Worked pretty well
[11:48] <eroomde> ha ingenious
[11:49] <chimpusmaximus> Worked better than i expected and very little mess
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[11:55] <infaddict> nice
[11:55] <infaddict> but far too neat ;-/
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[12:03] <Ian_> Here was me thinking that you cut to the chase and printed the hole . . . rather than the hole saw. I saw the whole hole!
[12:10] <chimpusmaximus> I'm tempted to line it with a printed one and possible make a small seal to go around but that may be one step to far. Been playing with making silicone seals for a kit car using silicone sealant and corn flour. https://goo.gl/photos/KkDfPgfxa3NS4Uye9
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[12:13] <astrobiologist> hello
[12:15] <eroomde> chimpusmaximus: you might find a few pressure equalisation paths desirable
[12:15] <eroomde> rather than a fully sealed box
[12:15] <eroomde> or you could seal it in all but one place i guess and control where it equalises
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[12:18] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[12:20] <daveake> chimpusmaximus Neat. I use cookie cutters.
[12:21] <chimpusmaximus> daveake: cheers
[12:22] <chimpusmaximus> Yeah wont be to well sealed prob just use some foam to help protect the lens a little.
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[12:30] <Lunar_Lander> interesting thing I saw on kicad, I made a symbol for a vishay dg419 switch
[12:30] <Lunar_Lander> then I selected it from my library and in the preview I saw the part I drew
[12:30] <Lunar_Lander> and suddenly I got one that seems to have been included already :)
[12:30] <Lunar_Lander> all along with proper switch drawing
[12:30] <Lunar_Lander> that was nice
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[12:31] <eroomde> i really should try kicad
[12:32] <Lunar_Lander> I like it so far, but that's my opinion of course
[12:34] <eroomde> i'll check it out
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[12:47] <Laurenceb__> hmm
[12:47] <Laurenceb__> last time i tried to use it it was very confusing
[12:47] <Laurenceb__> but it might be worth a shot now
[12:48] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[12:48] <Lunar_Lander> I read people complain about the seperation of part and footprint selection, saying that you select a part with a certain footprint like in EAGLE would be bettter
[12:48] <Lunar_Lander> -t
[12:49] <mattbrejza> noone uses altium?
[12:49] <Lunar_Lander> I think to make the schematic with generic symbols works too
[12:51] <eroomde> i've not used altium
[12:51] <eroomde> windows only and expensive
[12:51] <eroomde> but there were some just about good enough free + unixy tools that i didn't jump
[12:52] <eroomde> unlike say mechanical cad where it's solidworks or death
[12:52] <mattbrejza> fair enough
[12:53] <Lunar_Lander> since yesterday I use ltspiceiv on wine and that is nice not to have to boot the VM for it
[12:53] <Lunar_Lander> worked without hassle
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[14:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YT-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3YT-11
[14:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> hmm what is an VK3YT (Andy) balloon doing on west coast US
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[14:46] <eroomde> MarkIreland: did you get my message?
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[14:50] <eroomde> obv not
[14:56] <SM0ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: local tour? ;)
[14:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS-54 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-54
[15:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> VK3YT looks like its only just been released ... http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/index.php?ind=7
[15:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah one and the same then PS-54 = VK3YT-11
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[15:44] <SM0ULC> could someone add hysplit to PS-54?
[15:47] <lz1dev> .hysplit add ps-%
[15:47] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03ps-% to defaults
[15:47] <lz1dev> .hysplit run ps-54
[15:47] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[15:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ER1OR_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ER1OR_chase
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[16:02] <arjunnaha> Silly question, but how does the Sma plug with a screw on connect to an airspy, eg http://www.gigatronix.co.uk/default.php?_minc=cabulator_pf_datasheet&__utma=173680181.497801619.1442072404.1442072404.1442072404.1&__utmb=173680181.3.10.1442072404&__utmc=173680181&__utmt=1&__utmz=173680181.1442072404.1.1.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&_lang=&rel_dir=&partnostr=BP6AJP1AB19L-15M&cable_id=7
[16:03] <adamgreig> what do you mean?
[16:03] <adamgreig> your link didn't work for me
[16:04] <adamgreig> airspy has a female SMA socket, the cable has a male SMA plug, you screw them together
[16:04] <arjunnaha> The sma end has a screw on to attach to things like the pits board, but how would I attach it to an airspy?
[16:04] <adamgreig> the same way?
[16:04] <adamgreig> the airspy has the same SMA female socket as the PITS board
[16:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI6VBK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6VBK-11
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[16:06] <arjunnaha> Oh yh, I'm just being really stupid,I though the connector on the airspy was flat,but it's not
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[16:27] <ER1OR> Hi all. Approve please document CNTS-1
[16:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> Best to request Flight Doc approvals in the #habhub channel just quote the Doc ID number
[16:31] <ER1OR> thx. first time ))
[16:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> NP most of the sys admins monitor here as well but it can get lost in the stream!
[16:35] <ER1OR> the payload needs to be approved?
[16:35] <adamgreig> just the flight doc
[16:35] <adamgreig> the payload doc will work without being approved, for testing
[16:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9PON-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9PON-11
[16:38] <ER1OR> ok. I want to test the range of my base station. So I'm planning to make some tests with PITS boad on DJI Inspire at different distance and hights from base station.
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[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI66BK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI66BK-11
[17:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI6VBK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6VBK-11
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[17:25] <KT5TK> Has anyone experience with Yaesu's C3FM mode? Is there any GPL software available that can at least emulate the data transmit mode?
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[17:29] <KT5TK> Sorry C4FM of course
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[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI6UBK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6UBK-11
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[18:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI6VBK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6VBK-11
[18:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:13] <DL7AD> balloon has been launched. DL1NBR-14
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[18:30] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[18:33] <ulfr> g'evenin'
[18:35] <ulfr> It never stops amazing me how fast Texas Instruments's orders get shipped.
[18:35] <ulfr> Ordered a sample on friday and got it on Monday.
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[18:38] <mclane_> Good evening
[18:40] <ulfr> Hi
[18:41] <ulfr> Is there any point in measuring internal athmospheric pressure?
[18:41] <ulfr> ie if I have a payload with a barometer
[18:41] <mattbrejza> itll be identical to outside?
[18:41] <ulfr> That's what I'm kind of wondering about.
[18:42] <ulfr> I've always sealed off my payloads for waterproofness...
[18:42] <mattbrejza> so yes its worth measuring pressure but there is no need to have one insdie and outsdie
[18:42] <ulfr> Just wondering if the pressure varies *actually* that much.
[18:42] <mattbrejza> i cant see it being airtight though
[18:42] <ulfr> Exactly.
[18:46] <ulfr> Maybe just make some kind of a membrane valve to keep the same pressure.
[18:46] <ulfr> I do want to measure internal and external temperature though.
[18:46] <ulfr> Was thinking about just using LM35 for external pressure.
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[18:52] <infaddict> Hope I can get this all back together! http://s16.postimg.org/d4ff9sk9h/IMG_4032.jpg
[18:52] <mattbrejza> well if you do make it watertight perhaps there is reason to measure interal
[18:52] <tweetBot> @chimpusmaximus: #UKHAS #HAB Payload slowly taking shape http://t.co/IXtyPJlRxb
[18:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03yl3gbc_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=yl3gbc_chase
[19:00] <Lunar_Lander> payload looks good
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[19:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9FDK-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-2
[19:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK6TKY-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6TKY-11
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[20:10] <Lunar_Lander> evening craag
[20:13] <craag> evening Lunar_Lander
[20:13] <Lunar_Lander> hope everyone had a good saturday
[20:21] Nick change: VoiceOfReason -> KyleYankan
[20:24] <ulfr> Mine was really good.
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> happy to hear that
[20:25] <ulfr> Lunar_Lander: Do you have any thoughts on my barometer wondering?
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> you mean for your sealed payload?
[20:26] <Lunar_Lander> yea, I'd measure it for diagnostic purposes, a BMP180 doesn't cost that much and also gives internal temperature
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[21:00] <ulfr> Lunar_Lander: I have five barometer ICs
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:00] <ulfr> TI 4tw
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> which ones?
[21:00] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:01] <ulfr> HDC1008
[21:01] <ulfr> Just pondering about the pcb designs
[21:01] <Lunar_Lander> ah
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[21:22] <Laurenceb__> anyone here encountered the "No SD" error on GoPros ?
[21:22] <Laurenceb__> I'm not running latest firmware on mine, but still getting the error about 30% of the time
[21:26] <ulfr> Bad SD.
[21:27] <ulfr> I've had this couple of times.
[21:27] <ulfr> What type of SD are you using?
[21:28] <Laurenceb__> SanDisk
[21:28] <Laurenceb__> I searched the forums and found the recommended card
[21:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03jason_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=jason_chase
[21:36] <ulfr> Tried reformatting it?
[21:36] <ulfr> I've had issues like this with my camera, the only thing I could do was to swap out the card.
[21:38] <RealBorg> on my raspberry I've found cheap cards to be working more reliable
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[21:41] <Laurenceb__> interesting ulfr
[21:41] <Laurenceb__> maybe I should check the forums again
[21:41] <Laurenceb__> I've tried a few different cards, all failed
[21:41] <Laurenceb__> only the recommended sandisk one works at all
[21:41] <Laurenceb__> 100% of regular off the shelf card give "No SD"
[21:42] <ulfr> Two guesses, firmware shit, bad reader, or dirt on contacts
[21:42] Action: ulfr is bad at maths
[21:44] <ulfr> Laurenceb__: how old is that Gopro?
[21:46] <Laurenceb__> about a year
[21:46] <Laurenceb__> but it hasnt been used
[21:46] <Laurenceb__> mainly because I cant get it to work lol
[21:46] <ulfr> Return it then.
[21:47] <ulfr> GoPros are shitty equipment.
[21:47] <Laurenceb__> ok
[21:47] <Laurenceb__> it might still be inside warranty
[21:48] <Laurenceb__> I see loads of very "pro" people using GoPros
[21:48] <Laurenceb__> like on spacex fairing
[21:49] <Laurenceb__> yet my experience has been the firmware is appallingly bad
[21:49] <Laurenceb__> maybe they have custom firmware
[21:50] <Laurenceb__> theres other bugs too - random lockups and glitches
[21:51] <Laurenceb__> its barely usable
[21:51] <john5> good afternoon, i have a question, someone can help me with the answer?
[21:52] <Laurenceb__> it nearly set itself on fire a couple of days ago, I had to rip out the battery
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[21:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> john5, No crystal ball you will have to ask the question
[21:55] <Laurenceb__> only thing more screwed the gopro
[21:55] <Laurenceb__> is https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2742916
[21:56] <ulfr> The trick with using gopros is not to use gopros.
[21:56] <john5> hi Geoff- G8DHE
[21:56] <john5> What should i do so that the flight document is approved?
[21:57] <ulfr> Make it correct?
[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Post the Flight ID document in #habhub, but make sure you have tested the teleletry first and have appeared on the map.
[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> telemetry
[21:59] <john5> ok
[21:59] <john5> ok, and after that?
[21:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> the sys admins will confirm its been approved in the channel
[22:02] <john5> and i do not need to submit a permit aviation to give it to the admins?
[22:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> ah no thats only to allow easy collection of the data, you need to contact your aviation authority for permission to fly!
[22:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> in the UK thats the CAA
[22:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> forms etc in linked to in the Wiki
[22:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Whih country are you in, Germany ?
[22:05] <john5> in Colombia
[22:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah no idea who looks after that then, you will need to contact the local authority.
[22:06] <john5> ok
[22:06] <john5> aerocivil de colombia
[22:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.aerocivil.gov.co/Paginas/default.aspx yup
[22:08] <john5> yes, that is the link
[22:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> have you tested your tracker yet ?
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[22:10] <john5> Wednesday i did a test, and it was ok, but i have to put the temperature sensors
[22:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> RIA-20 ?
[22:11] <john5> yes
[22:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> well good luck with it all then!
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[22:12] <john5> thanks
[22:12] <john5> thanks for you help Geoff - G8DHE
[22:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> your welcome
[22:14] <john5> what country are you, Geoff?
[22:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> UK
[22:14] <john5> ah ok
[22:16] <john5> I have to go, goodnight
[22:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> goodnight
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