highaltitude.log.20150906

[00:00] <boutatrain> Should add flight was 2hrs, 52 mins and 51 seconds until burst. Totally amazed and thrilled with that for a first flight :)
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[00:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Habnl-4f-herman_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Habnl-4f-herman_chase
[00:40] <adamgreig> boutatrain: if you're still around
[00:40] <adamgreig> take the first point after release and the last point before GPS cut off
[00:40] <adamgreig> divide the difference in altitude by the difference in time
[00:40] <adamgreig> assume that ascent rate until the timecode puts burst
[00:40] <adamgreig> 2.4m/s up seems slow but maybe right
[00:53] <boutatrain> adamgreig: thats what I thought but I need a timecode, something not in the sentences, was that captured on habitat?
[00:53] <adamgreig> do the sentences not have the GPS time on them?
[00:54] <boutatrain> Nope :(
[00:54] <adamgreig> oops :p
[00:54] <adamgreig> well there's a good thing to put in your sentences
[00:54] <adamgreig> anyway http://habitat.habhub.org/ept can export all the things including when the system received your packets
[00:55] <boutatrain> Ah, thats what I hoped... CSV didn't seem to have that
[00:55] <adamgreig> you may need json
[00:55] <boutatrain> does the JSOn have it?????
[00:57] <adamgreig> outa
[00:57] <adamgreig> ourta?
[00:57] <adamgreig> it should anyway
[00:59] <boutatrain> Doesn't seem to, think thats a lesson learnt!
[00:59] <adamgreig> well it's there somewhere
[00:59] <adamgreig> what callsign?
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[00:59] <boutatrain> SPUTKNIC was the callsign
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[01:02] <adamgreig> http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/payload_telemetry/_view/flight_payload_time?include_docs=true&startkey=[%2201540a23ed501780f2e75591429dd1a3%22,%2201540a23ed501780f2e75591429250e2%22]&endkey=[%2201540a23ed501780f2e75591429dd1a3%22,%2201540a23ed501780f2e75591429250e2%22,[]]
[01:02] <boutatrain> I got a "bad request"...
[01:02] <adamgreig> make sure you copied the whole URL
[01:02] <adamgreig> ending []]
[01:03] <adamgreig> probably go for data._parsed.time_parsed
[01:03] <adamgreig> and next time include gps time on the sentences ;)
[01:06] <boutatrain> Yeah, next time I'll include a timestamp (and make sure the GPS is in flight mode) but this time it feels like we should be able to get the assent rate based on the data we got it only habitat time stamped the packets it recieved... Does it?
[01:08] <boutatrain> on the tracker it seemed to work this out (hence the 2.4m/s) but I figured it might have a better data source. 2.4 is ok, but 2.49 makes all the differnce :)
[01:13] <boutatrain> adamgreig just in case that come across badly, I should (and will in future) flights time stamp the sentences, and I'll learn the lessons from this flight, but it seems like we're so close from saying it got to n metres if only we had a timestamp.
[01:16] <adamgreig> that's what I'm saying
[01:16] <adamgreig> habitat does timestamp the data
[01:16] <adamgreig> the link I gave you ^ includes the timestamps
[01:17] <boutatrain> Thabks, but I (probably am being an idiot but) cant get the link to work :(
[01:18] <adamgreig> http://tinyurl.com/pnpesak
[01:18] <adamgreig> probably just not copying it right
[01:18] <adamgreig> how about that one?
[01:19] <boutatrain> Ah ha! Thank you super loads! that worked I' work out the assent rate from there. You are a star!!!!
[01:19] <adamgreig> you have 1369m at 2015-09-05T10:40:49Z and 10786 at 2015-09-05T11:52:33Z
[01:21] <boutatrain> Thank you
[01:21] <adamgreig> that doesn't sound right though
[01:21] <adamgreig> hmm
[01:23] <adamgreig> that is about 2.2 a second
[01:23] <adamgreig> fair enough
[01:25] <boutatrain> yep thats what I calculated too.... Seems low
[01:26] <adamgreig> it does seem pretty low
[01:26] <adamgreig> slow ascent perhaps
[01:26] <boutatrain> Maybe, pay load was 415grams attached to a 600gm ballooon
[01:29] <boutatrain> Not that bothered that it didnt get that high, bigger ballloon next time :)
[01:32] <boutatrain> solong as I can say we got to 20k+ we're in near space. Thats good enough for a first flight :)
[01:35] <boutatrain> conservative estimates puts us at 22K. Bigger, stronger, faster...
[01:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE2ESM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2ESM-11
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[03:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Jackal Chase_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Jackal%20Chase_chase
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[03:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Jackal _chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Jackal%20_chase
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[04:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5CGW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5CGW_chase
[04:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5LT-9_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5LT-9_chase
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[04:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03Z92 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Z92
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[05:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5RPC_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5RPC_chase
[05:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KZNHAB2 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KZNHAB2
[05:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ras_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ras_chase
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[05:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5CGW _chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5CGW%20_chase
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[06:31] <garymortimer> getting ready to launch Howick, South Africa 434.650 about 200 wide
[06:31] <garymortimer> not yet inflated the balloon just about to start
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[07:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Habnl-4f-herman_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Habnl-4f-herman_chase
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[07:25] <PE2BZ> !flights
[07:25] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03KZNHAB2 10(3e51), 03Sputknickers 1 pants in space 10(d1a3), 03HABNL-4F 10(ec5d)
[07:25] <PE2BZ> !payload habnl-4f
[07:25] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03HABNL-04F 10(ec5d) 03$$HABNL-4F - 03flight - 03434.635 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/450Hz ASCII-7 none 1
[07:29] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSY after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSY
[07:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABNL-4F-TUX_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABNL-4F-TUX_chase
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[07:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5PG_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5PG_chase
[07:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZR5S-14_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZR5S-14_chase
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[07:57] <Maxell> 'morning guys
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[07:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5CD_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5CD_chase
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[08:01] <PA3WEG> good morning all
[08:03] <Maxell> Mogguh :)
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[08:22] <PA3WEG> winds are quite high for HABNL-4
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[08:23] <Maxell> Will the VERON balloon launch?
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[09:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03zvcs5cd-2_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=zvcs5cd-2_chase
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[09:21] <SM0ULC> Serious thanks for the awesome API-predictor! Easy to use, extremely fast and following standards!
[09:23] <PA3WEG> HABNL-4F team on launch site
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[09:31] <Maxell> yes launch site at PD1ODE-9
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[09:41] <PA3WEG> Launch site update: layng out the lines, hooking up gas cylinder
[09:41] <PA3WEG> tracker has started transmitting on the ground
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[09:58] <PE2BZ> PA3WEG on the beach between [ gravenzande and Monster or on another location ?
[09:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABNL-4F - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HABNL-4F
[10:01] <PA3WEG> other location
[10:01] <PA3WEG> the habanero2 location if that rings a bell
[10:02] <PA3WEG> where we did the HABANERO2 launch, Maasland
[10:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> Prediction is here http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=41a998df427eb26ba889a3d3a1b7e0e6849ba2ab
[10:02] <PE2BZ> PA3WEG thanks. Have an IP cam at 52 M in Naaldwijk. Try to catch part of the flight, wont be easy ;-)
[10:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> what is the expected burst height ?
[10:03] <PA3WEG> ah, sure. I wonder if that works with the grey skies
[10:04] <PE2BZ> PA3WEG use a red balloon ;-)
[10:04] <Maxell> we might launch early
[10:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[10:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03KZNHAB2 10(3e51), 03Sputknickers 1 pants in space 10(d1a3), 03HABNL-4F 10(ec5d)
[10:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ec5d
[10:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03HABNL-04F 10(ec5d): none
[10:05] <PA3WEG> I still have a red one
[10:05] <PA3WEG> ;)
[10:15] <Maxell> can someone link me the filtered page for 4F
[10:15] <Maxell> unable to filter only 4F on mobile site
[10:15] <craag> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=HABNL-4F&q=HABNL-4F
[10:16] <PA3WEG> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=11&qm=1_day&f=HABNL-4F&q=HABNL-4F
[10:16] <Maxell> dank u
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[10:17] <Garymortimer> Flight went well here landed with Rhinos ranger went and got
[10:23] <PA3WEG> Maxell: your coordinates seem to have a sign error
[10:24] <PA3WEG> or wrong coordinate system
[10:24] <PA3WEG> dd.mm.mmm maybe?
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[10:41] <PA3WEG> 435.6345
[10:41] <PA3WEG> balloon up
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[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ec5d
[10:42] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03HABNL-04F 10(ec5d): none
[10:43] <PA3WEG> how to input these dial numbers?
[10:43] <PA3WEG> I have a dial, but how does the bot know?
[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> They come from dl-fldigi if its talking to the radio Rx itself
[10:43] <PA3WEG> ah, have got that cable, not working though now
[10:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> dl-fldigi sends a lot of info back to the servers
[10:44] <PA3WEG> OK, let me get my cable then
[10:47] <PA3WEG> done
[10:47] <PA3WEG> !dial ec5d
[10:47] <SpacenearUS> 03PA3WEG: Latest dials for 03HABNL-04F 10(ec5d): 03434.63458 MHz, 434.63838 MHz
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[10:51] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[10:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PD1ODE_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PD1ODE_chase
[10:54] <PE2G> 4F on 434.637 here
[10:54] <PA3WEG> !dial ec5d
[10:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PA3WEG: Latest dials for 03HABNL-04F 10(ec5d): 03434.63534 MHz, 434.63883 MHz, 1012.024 MHz
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[11:00] <Maxell> nice nice
[11:00] <mattbrejza> !whereis HABNL-04F
[11:00] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: I haven't got a clue
[11:01] <PA3WEG> well, that was helpful ;)
[11:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> !whereis ec5d
[11:01] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: I haven't got a clue
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[11:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oops the Netherlands must have sunk then ;-)
[11:02] <PA3WEG> uh-oh....
[11:02] <PA3WEG> signal LOST
[11:03] <PA0RPA> To bad, transmitter stopped !
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[11:04] <PE2G> No traces. Nothing anymore
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[11:06] <PE2G> F1 instead of 4F, this afternoon ;)
[11:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[11:07] <PE2BZ> And 4-0 for tonight ?
[11:07] <PE2G> :)
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[11:10] <Maxell> PA3WEG: meh
[11:10] <Maxell> reset every 100 lines
[11:11] <Maxell> meh....
[11:12] <PE2G> You still have hope Maxell?
[11:14] <Maxell> dunno. what was the last line
[11:14] <Maxell> how abruptly did it shut off
[11:15] <Maxell> mid sentence?
[11:15] <PE2G> Very abruptly after a completed sentence
[11:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> "$$HABNL-4F,0099,11:01:47,51.791721,4.358295,3585,9,1,17,4.85*3F11"
[11:15] <Maxell> oh that might give hope
[11:16] <Maxell> well see
[11:16] <PA3WEG> after the sentence
[11:16] <PA3WEG> calculating the 100 sentences the latest time for reboot will be 11:25:07
[11:17] <PA3WEG> it went off without even the next dollar sign
[11:17] <PE2BZ> Does the transmitter have a ¨default frequency¨ where it could reset to ?
[11:18] <PA3WEG> if it switched off after exactly 100 sentences, with a sentence every 14 seconds, 1400 seconds later is the time I indicated
[11:18] <PA3WEG> I have scanned 433 - 435, no result
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[11:18] <PE2BZ> I have scanned 400 - 450 also no result ;-)
[11:18] <PE2BZ> SDR in 1 MHz steps...
[11:19] <PA3WEG> I could do that as well, but I am pretty sure if it reboots it comes up at the corect frequency
[11:20] <PE2BZ> Ok, than I leave the receiver at it´s frequency and hope for the best for you guys...
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[11:25] <PA3WEG> the opportunity for a reboot came and went.....
[11:27] <Maxell> meh meh meh meh
[11:27] <Maxell> i wonder what the problem was...
[11:28] <Maxell> we did have a bumpy launch... The payload hit a streetsign
[11:29] <Maxell> we have a carrier on 434.636... not sure about its direction. might even be local
[11:31] <bobsaget> hello, I see HB9FDK-11 was blocked from habhub
[11:31] <bobsaget> very sorry for all the testing that showed up online
[11:31] <PE2G> Maxell: Nothing on .636 here
[11:31] <bobsaget> but can it be unblocked now so we can track it?
[11:31] <PA3WEG> nothing here either
[11:31] <PE2BZ> Nothing here also
[11:32] <Maxell> meh ok it's local then
[11:32] <PA3WEG> sorry Jeroen
[11:32] <PA3WEG> I with it was better news
[11:34] <Maxell> Just wondering what could cause this... Not the payload detatching, at lease.
[11:34] <Maxell> least.
[11:35] <PE2G> Did you have a rough launch?
[11:38] <PA3WEG> it looks too much of a coincidence it switched off exactly after the checksum
[11:39] <PA3WEG> and very clean, signal was perfect until it just went off
[11:39] <PE2G> So you think no mechanical failure
[11:43] <Maxell> yep. payload hit something during liftoff. it might have resetted then but after that all went fine
[11:43] <Maxell> and the chase care uploaded just fine
[11:44] <Maxell> so something mechanical + reset every 100 lines
[11:45] <Maxell> how would such nodule not come back after reset...
[11:47] <Maxell> did it reset right before lift off? It shoud have stayed on all the time
[11:48] <Maxell> that might indicate the collision
[11:49] <Maxell> well see
[11:49] <Maxell> nothing much we can do right now
[11:49] <PE2G> Phone number on the payload?
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its worth looking at the http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/ept/_list/csv/payload_telemetry/flight_payload_time?include_docs=true&startkey=[%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42f2ec5d%22,%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42eb9a2b%22]&endkey=[%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42f2ec5d%22,%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42eb9a2b%22,[]]&fields=_sentence especially around each 100 mark sentences go missing ??
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Sry wrong link
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh no right one
[11:53] <Maxell> PE2G: yes. We'll see
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[13:08] <pa4fb> Wat is er gebeurt met de HABNL-4F?
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[13:09] <PA3WEG> pa4fb: the transmitter stopped working
[13:09] <pa4fb> What happened with the HABNL-4F?
[13:10] <pa4fb> Thanks PA3WEG.
[13:11] <pa4fb> Was het toeval dat hij van bericht 99 naar 100 doorliep?
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[13:13] <PA3WEG> probably not. it was supposed to reset at 100
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[13:46] <PE2BZ> Are there any listeners who can tune to 443.2875 MHz and give a direction and location ?
[13:48] <PA3WEG> 443?
[13:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Most beams would have very odd lobes when you get that far off-frequency!
[13:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5GOM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5GOM-11
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[13:54] <PE2BZ> 443 indeed. Quite strong but certainly sounds like a flying object. Fading and (little) frequency shift.
[14:22] <PE2BZ> The signal on 443.2875 disappeared
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[14:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-11 after 033 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-11
[14:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ZS5PG_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ZS5PG_chase
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[15:16] <Maxell> PA3WEG: pd3t: http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/ept/_list/csv/payload_telemetry/flight_payload_time?include_docs=true&startkey=[%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42f2ec5d%22,%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42eb9a2b%22]&endkey=[%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42f2ec5d%22,%227ca7e5d98df75aa87e63d75e42eb9a2b%22,[]]&fields=_sentence,_receivers
[15:17] <Maxell> "$$HABNL-4F,0280,10:38:02,51.925240,4.274248,3,9,1,19,4.93*F788",PD4KDZ
[15:17] <Maxell> "$$HABNL-4F,0281,10:38:15,51.925240,4.274240,2,9,1,19,4.87*0F3C",PD4KDZ
[15:17] <Maxell> "$$HABNL-4F,0282,10:38:28,51.925262,4.274272,-3,9,1,19,4.93*5076",PD4KDZ
[15:17] <Maxell> "$$HABNL-4F,0007,10:40:37,51.914902,4.280328,365,9,1,19,5.00*CF19",PD4KDZ
[15:17] <Maxell> Right after launch it resetted by the rough takeoff
[15:18] <Maxell> PA4FB was the first one to recieve it. Altitude 449 meters
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[15:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KM4DDY-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4DDY-13
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[15:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03_0_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=_0_chase
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[16:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ6YXG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ6YXG-11
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[17:13] <tweetBot> @jrobinson_uk: Listening to @NakedScientists to hear what they made of #skycademy @Raspberry_Pi @daveake #ukhas
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[17:20] <PE0SAT> !dail HABNL-4F
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[17:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ69XG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ69XG-11
[17:57] <Maxell> jamescoxon/dl-fldigi ukhas/dl-fldigi
[17:57] <Maxell> Guys, wich one is the most recent and has the most features and least bugs? :P
[17:57] <Maxell> Or is the latest stable still the best?
[17:57] <Maxell> Building on debian unstable
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[18:04] <Maxell> Or does anyone has some tips regarding builing dl-fldigi from source?
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[18:05] <Maxell> Or should I grab the DL3.22.13 Alpha Release ?
[18:05] <arjunnaha> Upu: Has the UKHAS coupon code expired for your store?
[18:09] <Maxell> I'm going to grab the DL 3.22.13 release and see what happens :)
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[18:13] <mfa298> Maxell: I think ukhas/dl-fldigi is the official one now although jcoxon was testing some extra features.
[18:13] <mfa298> I'm not sure how much they've been tested so far but have a go.
[18:14] <mfa298> see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/hVNPuOnZ4D8
[18:15] <Maxell> mfa298: tnx, going for the 3.22.13 Alpha jcoxon release :)
[18:17] <mfa298> It seemed to do reasonably well for a flight I tracked the other week with 50bd rtty, I'm not sure it's had much good testing with high baud rates (which is where the previous alpha struggled)
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[18:23] <Maxell> mfa298: yeah, however it wont bui;d on my system... Have to figure something out.
[18:23] <Upu> evening
[18:23] <Upu> arjunnaha depends what you're buying
[18:23] <Upu> some stuff its not applicable anymore
[18:23] <mfa298> latest one built ok for me on Ubuntu.
[18:24] <Maxell> mfa298: hmm, no sigar here with debian unstable.
[18:24] <Maxell> autoconfigure is fine
[18:24] <Maxell> make isn't happy
[18:25] <mfa298> I think others had to make odd fixes for fedora / macos although I'm not sure what they were (I've also had to make some changes to try a windows build - although that still doesnt work)
[18:25] <Maxell> http://paste.sigio.nl/p2nqkqrsn/vwzdwy/raw
[18:26] <Maxell> Makefile:468: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed etc
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[18:27] <mfa298> was that using the one of the github repos ?
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[18:34] <Maxell> mfa298: yes, the DL3.22.13 Alpha Release you linked.
[18:34] <Maxell> https://github.com/jamescoxon/dl-fldigi/archive/DL3.22.13-alpha.zip to be exact
[18:35] <mfa298> hmm, I just did a git clone when I tested it
[18:35] <Maxell> I could try that :)
[18:38] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: moved to Sevenoaks - looking to start up my #ukhasnet (open 868 wireless network), anyone locally interested? #hamr #ukhas #hamradio #aprs
[18:40] <mfa298> hmmm, I wonder which one I was using for trying a mingw32 build, might need to try james one.
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[18:44] <arjunnaha> Upu A pits board
[18:45] <Upu> Sorry no discount on those
[18:45] <arjunnaha> ;-(
[18:45] <Babs____> Hey upu - your pava board you had running on 1.8v
[18:45] <Upu> I did
[18:46] <Babs____> Did you have any special 16mhz crystal to get it working?
[18:46] <Babs____> On the div/8
[18:46] <Upu> nope was just a good Epson 16Mhz rated to -40'C
[18:46] <Babs____> Like you I am struggling to find a 4mhz crystal that is anything like small
[18:46] <Upu> exactly
[18:47] <Babs____> I have some abracon ones I have flown before
[18:47] <Upu> so use a 32Mhz and DIV/8 or 16Mhz DIV/8
[18:47] <Babs____> I have a few 16mhz so will just do that
[18:47] <Babs____> Smart. Thanks.
[18:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HJ6YXG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HJ6YXG-11
[18:48] <Babs____> It is still clocking at 16mhz at the 1.8v, it's just the software that is effectively slowing it down from the processors point of view?
[18:49] <Upu> its just dividing the clock by 8 so running at 2Mhz
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[18:50] <Babs____> Do i need to worry about checking that1.8v will drive it?
[18:51] <Upu> nope it works
[18:51] <Babs____> Cant see anything other on the datasheet other than power draw, and that looks astronimically small
[18:51] <Babs____> Cool. Thanks.
[18:51] <Upu> AVR ?
[18:51] <Babs____> Atmega328
[18:51] <Upu> yeah it works
[18:51] <Babs____> Excellent. Means i dont have to do another footprint too.
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[19:11] <Maxell> mfa298: wow, the git one actually compiles more :)
[19:14] <Maxell> http://paste.sigio.nl/pgclspf2q/syr06o/raw :P
[19:18] <Maxell> libcrypto ==> error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
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[19:19] <Maxell> Both libcrypto++-dev and libssl-dev are installed.
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[19:36] <mfa298__> I wonder if it's missing a -l... option
[19:39] <Maxell> mfa298__: yeah, trying with -lcrypto
[19:39] <Maxell> https://github.com/laurentluce/twilio-cplusplus/issues/2
[19:40] <Maxell> mfa298__: line 355 SSL_LIBS is now "-lcrypto", we will see :)
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[19:41] <Maxell> Also added -lcrypto to the FLDIGI_BUILD_LDADD
[19:42] <ZS5LT> Hi Guys and the HABHUB team, thanks for all the help, a good 32 000m + launch and successful recovery for KZNHAB2
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[19:42] <Maxell> ZS5LT: great to hear KZNHAB2 got recovered!
[19:42] <Maxell> Had a great time? :)
[19:43] <ZS5LT> Thanks Adamgreig for sorting out the issues with the payload registration as well.
[19:44] <adamgreig> no problem, glad you had a good flight
[19:45] <ZS5LT> hi Maxell we had a great day before and during, the payload landed in a private game range and due to anti poaching rules would not allow us in.... but eventually we got our entire payload intact and still transmitting.
[19:47] <Maxell> ZS5LT: Awesome! Thats good news.
[19:48] <ZS5LT> Guys look at a terrain profile of the KZN midlands and you will know what we had to deal with, hilly and without mobile data coverage, we could get good string but could not upload them. Maybe a thought for a mod to FLDIGI to cue untransmitted packets and then transmit when a connection can be established.
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[19:49] <adamgreig> it does do that
[19:49] <adamgreig> so long as it's left open
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[19:51] <ZS5LT> ah great, lots of interest generated. The only launch in Africa this past Sunday!
[19:53] <Lunar_Lander> well done :)
[19:53] <SM0ULC> ZS5LT: aprs coverage?
[19:54] <ZS5LT> no no APRS coverage only the data telemetry onto HABHUB tracker. We left it out this time.
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[19:56] <ZS5LT> we did have a tracking beacon on board as a backup. this device is as large as a thumbnail and will transmit for 3 months on a 3.6v button cell! it was heard 98km away will the payload was 1000m up in the air!
[19:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PIGLET - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PIGLET
[19:58] <Maxell> mfa298__: still no dice. Not sure where to place the -lcrypto. I added/replaced all the -lssl's already.
[19:58] <Lunar_Lander> this afternoon I was thinking about something
[19:59] <luteijn> Maxell: still trying to compile? do you have all the littel pieces, as IIRC you also need to add a little secondary bit of softwar eafter checkingout the main dl-fldigi..
[19:59] <Maxell> ZS5LT: just CW/beeping? How much time sleeping?
[19:59] <Lunar_Lander> when Joe Kittinger flew on project excelsior, they made a seat of styrofoam and water bottles, where the bottles were supposed to act as a heating because of the heat released when the water froze
[19:59] <Maxell> luteijn: It is done compiling. It's the most recent git clone.
[19:59] <ZS5LT> a small 25ms pip every 30secs
[19:59] <Maxell> luteijn: I did a submodule init and submodule update :)
[20:00] <Lunar_Lander> and I thought about if that could be used to keep a payload box warm
[20:00] <Maxell> ZS5LT: Ai, those 30 seconds are very long when you try to direction find.
[20:00] <Maxell> But works for omnidirectional.
[20:01] <mfa298> Maxell: I'm not sure what to suggest, it sounds a bit like you're using an openssl replacement where I think ubuntu 14.04 is still openssl based
[20:01] <SM0ULC> ZS5LT: i thought one maybe could use aprs to relay telemetry. but no aprs then not so possible..
[20:01] <ZS5LT> the tracking beacon has been repurposed from and animal tracking beacon thats used to track wild dogs in the african bush
[20:01] <Maxell> mfa298: would that be libcrypto++ ?
[20:02] <ZS5LT> SMOULC we did well using the RTTY on 434.650 on 10mW our signal did a 340km trip to a listener in another region of South africa.
[20:03] <SM0ULC> ZS5LT: pretty mountaneous area?
[20:03] <Maxell> mfa298: meh. Ok, I'll see.
[20:05] <SM0ULC> ZS5LT: worked for the land survey of sweden some 10+ years ago and we did a lot of aeral photography of the region. seen a lot for photos.. :)
[20:05] <ZS5LT> SMOULC lots of hills and commercial forests, dirt road and river crossings beautiful but deadly, thats my hunting ground, if i launch near my home the payload goes straight into the ocean.
[20:06] <Maxell> mfa298: heh, actually I already have been down this road before... https://github.com/ukhas/dl-fldigi/issues/33
[20:06] <ZS5LT> saturday and sunday this week was our only good launch window all the other predictions put the payload in the Indian Ocean.
[20:07] <SM0ULC> ZS5LT: difficult terrain then
[20:09] <ZS5LT> SMOULC: we have the gear and know how to work the terrain, but adds more difficulty to track a balloon with signals blocked by the forests or bouncing off the adjacent hills, but this is good practice. I should not complain we realyy did have a good day.
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[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> happy to hear that it worked
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[20:14] <stee> hello, anyone able to help with a LoRa problem? Just set up Pi/PITS/LoRa and Pi/Lora and just getting CRC errors :(
[20:15] <Lunar_Lander> ZS5LT, what sensors did the payload carry?
[20:16] <ZS5LT> Lunar Lander: Just GPS and temperature.
[20:16] <Lunar_Lander> ah :)
[20:17] <ZS5LT> Lunar Lander: Lazy this time, i could have added more but this project was started and completed in a week! (this is my second HAB launch).
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> that is fast
[20:18] <arjunnaha> chat Upu
[20:19] <arjunnaha> Upu, just placed an order on your site, but selected pickup from shop, can you change this to special delivery
[20:19] <ZS5LT> Lunar Lander: the next payload will be a radio amateur uhf/vhf repeater - i will be looking for a long balloon hang time before burst to arrange long range comms. I worked a balloon 430km away with a hand held yagi and a 3 watt transmitter
[20:23] <Lunar_Lander> :) nice!
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> yea the range achievable is amazing
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[20:28] <ZS5LT> cheers guys, i have a date with my pillow, till the next time.
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[20:28] <Upu> sure arjunnaha
[20:31] <Upu> see PM
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> so many considerations
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi anthony btw
[20:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AIRCOR-51 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-51
[20:32] <Upu> hey Lunar_Lander
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> hope all is well
[20:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AIRCOR-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-2
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> we are almost done with F2
[20:33] <Upu> yup all good here
[20:33] <Upu> this your next flight ?
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> yes
[20:33] <johns_> Hi
[20:33] <Upu> cool
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> (F2 = flight 2)
[20:33] <Upu> evening John
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> yeah, it has been too much time tbh
[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-52 after 038 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-52
[20:34] <johns_> I'm new here, i have an inquiry
[20:34] <Upu> ask away
[20:36] <johns_> hi Upa,
[20:36] <johns_> como poner mi traker en habhub? para hacer pruebas, y ver en en el mapa
[20:36] <Upu> may be best in English
[20:36] <johns_> sorry
[20:36] <johns_> like putting my traker in habhub? for testing, and see on the map
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[20:37] <Upu> ok
[20:37] <johns_> I do not know how to do
[20:37] <Upu> so you need to start transmitting and recieving via dl-fl-digi
[20:37] <Upu> then you need to make a payload document that describes your telemetry
[20:38] <Upu> you can do this here :
[20:38] <johns_> yeah
[20:38] <Upu> http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
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[20:38] <Upu> have you got something transmitting yet ?
[20:38] <johns_> dl-fl-digi also
[20:39] <Upu> so you have a radio transmitting ?
[20:42] <johns_> I transmit in RTTY, data are in dl-fldigi (GPS data)
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[20:42] <Upu> can you paste one sentence from your payload please ?
[20:42] <johns_> $$JOHNUX,352,06:47:27,4.626432,-74.136383,2610.50,4,0x01(60)
[20:42] <johns_> so transmission rtty
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[20:43] <Upu> ok what is the (60) at the end
[20:44] <Upu> you need to add a checksum
[20:44] <johns_> no sorry
[20:44] <johns_> 0x01*c61a
[20:47] <johns_> the transmission power is ok, but not as seen on the map in habhub for test
[20:49] <Upu> are you transmittign now ?
[20:50] <johns_> no, i have off, Upa
[20:51] <Upu> can you transmit and upload a telemetry string ?
[20:51] <johns_> yes
[20:52] <johns_> now?
[20:52] <Upu> yes pls
[20:53] <esculca> anyone can help can provide some help on SSDV?
[20:53] <johns_> can you wait four minutes?
[20:53] <Maxell> :P
[20:53] <esculca> I am not able to decode the sample file available on the web
[20:53] <Upu> ofc johns_
[20:54] <Lunar_Lander> Upu, did you read what I wrote about Kittinger earlier?
[20:54] <Upu> nope Lunar_Lander
[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> they built a seat for his stratosphere jump out of styrofoam and water bottles, where the water was supposed to freeze and act as a seat heater
[20:55] <Lunar_Lander> and I was contemplating the afternoon if a similar system could work on a HAB
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[20:55] <Upu> well not usually you need to heat a payload
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> that is true
[20:56] <esculca> can anyone provide another test file with SSDV?
[20:56] <Lunar_Lander> there are quite a few heat sources
[20:57] <esculca> for tme to check my DL-FLDIGI config?
[20:58] <stee> Hi Upu, thx for the LoRa board this week, arrived safely. Got a min to help with an issue? Skycademy doesnt do bug fixing ;(
[20:59] <Upu> hey stee you can ask but daveake may need to answer
[20:59] <stee> yeah, may be one for daveake, getting CRC failures on lora, kinda hopeful its not a hardware thing :)
[21:00] <Upu> all the time ?
[21:00] <stee> yeh, its seeing packets scroll but no successes
[21:00] <stee> when the tracker is off they stop
[21:00] <daveake> Mismatched frequencies
[21:00] <Upu> retune it slightly
[21:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Or use AFC
[21:01] <daveake> Adjust the gateway up say 3kHz and try again
[21:01] <Upu> AFC doesn't always work
[21:01] <stee> AFC is on, let me go shift up a little
[21:01] <Upu> and the modules are a bit meh on frequency
[21:01] <daveake> AFC won't necessarily work if it's not getting any good packets at all
[21:02] <daveake> and then try down if it's no better
[21:05] <esculca> no SSDV sample files?
[21:06] <daveake> You could make one
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[21:06] <daveake> Just download and compile the ssdv program
[21:06] <daveake> then run it with a jpeg
[21:06] <esculca> done that
[21:07] <daveake> then you'll have a sample ssdv file
[21:07] <stee> 3KHz down did the trick! tricks of the trade eh! thanks :)
[21:07] <daveake> cool
[21:07] <esculca> I am trying to undestand why dl-fldigi does not output the picture
[21:07] <daveake> might add an auto-up-down thing to the gateway
[21:07] <esculca> no no
[21:07] <esculca> not even that
[21:08] <esculca> just on my laptop
[21:08] <johns_> sorry i'm late
[21:08] <johns_> Upu, i have already turned on
[21:08] <stee> interestingly the freq shift didnt work until i went in via LXTerminal
[21:08] <esculca> if I open the RX SSDVV window it nevers shos the picture
[21:08] <Upu> I don't see anything being uploaded johns_
[21:08] <stee> (CE1)
[21:08] <Upu> can you send us a screen shot of what you see ?
[21:08] <Upu> alt+print screen, go to imgur.com and ctrl+v
[21:08] <SA6BSS> No configuration doc for 'JOHNUX' found
[21:09] <daveake> escula if you're doing that with an SSDV file made by SSDV, then there's something wrong with your transmission of the SSDV data
[21:09] <Upu> ok johns_ , SA6BSS is correct you need to make a payload document for your transmission
[21:09] <esculca> yes...
[21:09] <Upu> http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/
[21:09] <esculca> I am doing something wrong in here...
[21:10] <esculca> will dig into it some more time then
[21:10] <esculca> tks
[21:10] <esculca> but, even so
[21:11] <esculca> in order to try the audio file on dl-fldigi
[21:11] <johns_> I loaded, dated September 3. Should i load it again with another date?
[21:11] <esculca> you open the file
[21:11] <esculca> and chosse playback, right?
[21:11] <esculca> choose*
[21:12] <SA6BSS> johns_: there is no doc with the name of "JOHNUX" in the databsa
[21:12] <SA6BSS> *databsae
[21:14] <johns_> Documet called the "RIA-20"
[21:15] <johns_> in dabase
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[21:15] <SA6BSS> thats your problem, you need to changr that to JOHNUX to make it on the map
[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> There is nothing in the logtail by either callsign, so nothing to match against yet ??
[21:16] <SA6BSS> or reprogram your tracker to transmitt RIA-20
[21:16] <SA6BSS> there was, a couple of minutes
[21:16] <SA6BSS> ago
[21:16] <daveake> Yeah nothing being uploaded so we don't know yet what the problem is
[21:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Does dl-fldigi say the data has been uploaded ?
[21:17] <daveake> ah ok there it is
[21:17] <daveake> JOHNUX
[21:17] <daveake> a mess tho
[21:17] <SA6BSS> $$JOHNUX,88,02:1:-4V6n6Y04,-74.136070,2565.30,5,0x01*F27b
[21:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah yes must have crept in whilst looking in the other window!
[21:18] <daveake> same :)
[21:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Now need to make callsigns match
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[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> last couple look ok $$JOHNUX,100,02:19:05,4.626248,-74.136154,2585.00,5,0x01*909C
[21:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> but payload doc callsign needs to match against tgelelmetry callsign
[21:21] <johns_> =)
[21:21] <johns_> where I see this?
[21:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://habitat.habhub.org/logtail/
[21:21] <daveake> in the telemetry section of the payload doc
[21:22] <johns_> ok, one moment
[21:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/ genpayload start from existing type in ria and edit that to JOHNUX
[21:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Think it needs a couple of extra fields as well
[21:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AIRCOR-61 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-61
[21:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> to handle the ....,5,0x01....
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[21:26] <johns_> and I understand a little better, thanks
[21:27] <johns_> how it works so that it looks on the map (displacement)?
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[21:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> some tropo next few days http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_nwe.htmlover UK
[21:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> over UK
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[21:44] <johns_> thanks for the help, goodnight
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> good night from me as well
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[21:53] <stee> night all, thanks for the help upu and daveake
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[23:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STEE-R - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STEE-R
[23:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STEE-L - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STEE-L
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