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[02:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DC2EH-5 after 0315 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-5
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[04:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03mediamasterLV_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=mediamasterLV_chase
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[07:50] <SA6BSS> thats a nice tracker from kd8tdf http://i.imgur.com/Uq4oSSG.jpg (tnx craag, reading backlog) https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/3isr9g/i_just_launched_a_diy_2_gram_highaltitude_balloon/
[07:54] <eroomde> nice. nicer with a bit of flux cleaner
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[08:12] <SA6BSS> :)
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[08:26] <jet> G8TMV: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1463144530682224&id=100009600739589
[08:26] <jet> Had them ready after you went to bed!
[08:26] <jet> I'll be uploading a full set of HQ ones and email them to the UKHAS group once I've finished consolidating footage :)
[08:27] Action: G8TMV nods
[08:30] <G8TMV> jet - good piccies
[08:32] <malgar> I'm just curious about Leo Bodnar balloons.. aren't there any projects since last year?
[08:34] <Darkside> i think he's done what he set out to do :P
[08:34] <Darkside> now he's working on other things
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[08:35] <SA6BSS> Leos projects https://www.facebook.com/leobodnarelectronics
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[09:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9IAC-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9IAC-11
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[10:04] <Laurenceb__> http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/GLwWz4R.jpg
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[10:04] <hehuj> *Yes
[10:04] <hehuj> lol
[10:06] <LazyLeopard> Didn't think that one through, did they...
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[10:21] <fsphil> lol
[10:21] <eroomde> also a sfw link from laurence
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[10:49] <eroomde> adamgreig: http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2749246-932x698.jpg
[10:50] <eroomde> lots of metcals
[10:50] <eroomde> (mclaren)
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[10:58] <fsphil> very sci-fi
[10:59] <eroomde> would be nice to have that kind of facility
[11:06] <adamgreig> And mantis eroomde
[11:06] <adamgreig> Makespace got one recently, the elite with objective swapper
[11:06] <adamgreig> V nice
[11:07] <eroomde> do you like it?
[11:07] <eroomde> i missed one the other day annoyingly
[11:15] <fsphil> seen a few microscopes being sold locally but there wasn't much space to work in under the lens
[11:16] <fsphil> the mantis scopes are crazy prices even second hand
[11:17] <Upu> I just use a £40 ex school biology lab stereo one
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[11:17] <G8TMV> I've got an old binocular dicsection microscope
[11:17] <G8TMV> yup - like upu said
[11:18] <garymortimer> hi all, is dc2eh one of the Gordon bennet gang
[11:18] <G8TMV> cost me about 40 quid off ebay
[11:19] <Upu> Got one of those LED car light rings from E-Bay for about £3 to illuminate
[11:19] <Upu> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-60mm-66-LED-COB-Chips-Car-Angel-Eyes-Headlight-Halo-Ring-Light-For-BMW-etc-/360983290802?var=&hash=item540c47e3b2
[11:19] <G8TMV> mine came with a 12v lamp already, the back of the stand contains the psu for it
[11:20] <Upu> nah mine had no light
[11:20] <Upu> which was an issue :)
[11:21] <adamgreig> The mantis is nice but not as impressive as I hoped
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[12:38] <gonzo_> you will be putting blue leds in the washer jets next
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[12:41] <beam_balloon> hello
[12:41] <beam_balloon> beam balloon here again
[12:41] <beam_balloon> is eroomde here? XD
[12:42] <beam_balloon> <i know you are ^-^
[12:42] <Darkside> just because someone is in the channel doesn't mean they are actually active..
[12:42] <beam_balloon> yeah i know
[12:43] <beam_balloon> i was just wondering if it is possible to not use the NTX2B and arduino, and to just save all data in a black box and retrieve it later
[12:43] <beam_balloon> is that possible?
[12:43] <Darkside> so how are you planning on knowing where the payload is during flight?
[12:44] <Geoff-G8DHE_> How will you know where the black box lands /
[12:44] <Darkside> and tracking it
[12:44] <Darkside> recovering it
[12:44] <Darkside> etc
[12:44] <number10> depends on how you intend to locate the black box
[12:44] <beam_balloon> that's true
[12:44] <beam_balloon> is it possible to just track it with gps
[12:44] <Darkside> ..
[12:44] <Darkside> you need to get the data back from the payload somehow
[12:44] <beam_balloon> so you track it with gps and just follow the gps around
[12:44] <beam_balloon> I know
[12:44] <Darkside> sigh
[12:45] <beam_balloon> from the black box
[12:45] <beam_balloon> stop being smug
[12:45] <beam_balloon> im just asking
[12:45] <Darkside> GPS is the system the black box uses to work out where it is
[12:45] <beam_balloon> right
[12:45] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Do ou understand what GPS is ?
[12:45] <Darkside> the black box has to tell *you* where it is
[12:45] <beam_balloon> i understand that
[12:45] <Darkside> GPS is a receive only system
[12:45] <beam_balloon> that's why i'm asking if there is a way to go around that
[12:45] <Darkside> a device uses it to figure out where it is located
[12:45] <beam_balloon> aha
[12:45] <Geoff-G8DHE_> you black box will have to transmit the co-ords it gets from GPS
[12:46] <Darkside> for that information to be useful to you, it must be transferred from that device, to you
[12:46] <beam_balloon> i see
[12:46] <beam_balloon> is there apparatus that does that for me
[12:47] <beam_balloon> so that i don't have to fumble around with the arduino, since i am not that experienced as you might have guessed
[12:47] <Darkside> nothing off the shelf that we would consider reliable enough
[12:47] <beam_balloon> really?
[12:47] <Darkside> they all have their flaws
[12:47] <beam_balloon> that would suck really bad :(
[12:47] <beam_balloon> i see
[12:47] <Darkside> problems like not working when upside down
[12:48] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Well its niot exactly a mass market
[12:48] <Darkside> not maintaining GPS lock over a certain altitude
[12:48] <Darkside> not working after landing
[12:48] <Darkside> etc
[12:48] <beam_balloon> not working after landing is not a problem for my project
[12:48] <beam_balloon> once i know where it lands it doesnt matter if its broekn
[12:48] <Geoff-G8DHE_> It is if you can't find it
[12:48] <beam_balloon> broken
[12:48] <beam_balloon> yeah but if before that I know where it was before it busted than that is not a big issue
[12:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The flight Saturday took an hour to find in a small field of maize!!
[12:49] <mfa298> beam_balloon: getting an arduino to receive from gps and send data back over radio isn't that difficult, you just need to work on the whole thing a bit at a time (don't do everything in one go)
[12:49] <beam_balloon> mfa298 you think? cause i looked at that page with the code and it looked really complicated
[12:49] <beam_balloon> but we can just try that's true
[12:50] <mfa298> the other benefit of using the arduino with your sensors is that you get the data during the flight, so if something happens, you've still got data (e.g. if your payload goes too far and lands in the sea)
[12:50] <Darkside> mfa298: to a point
[12:50] <Darkside> (i.e. video)
[12:50] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Have you seen http://www.habduino.org/
[12:50] <beam_balloon> no not yet
[12:51] <beam_balloon> i'll look into it thatnks
[12:51] <beam_balloon> thanks
[12:51] <mfa298> beam_balloon: the key to learning this stuff, is to start small and add a bit at a time. I think when you were here the other day the suggestion was to get an arduino and first get it blinking an led.
[12:51] <Geoff-G8DHE_> or http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/
[12:52] <beam_balloon> yeah thats true
[12:52] <beam_balloon> but still i wanted to know if there was an easier way
[12:52] <beam_balloon> its a bit lazy but still
[12:52] <mfa298> once you've got an arduino blinking an led, it's a small bit or work to make it blink based on data being sent, then another small piece of work to make it use a radio instead of the led (and you've then done half of the linking arduino to ntx2 page)
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[13:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03vk3tbc_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=vk3tbc_chase
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[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03fsphil_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=fsphil_chase
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[16:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO2EIM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO2EIM-1
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[19:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI_SKY_PLUS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI_SKY_PLUS
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[21:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[22:01] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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[22:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-11 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-11
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[23:01] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
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