highaltitude.log.20150829

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[03:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-13
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[05:54] <jet> Hello!
[05:54] <jet> Everybody ready to do my tracking for me? ;)
[05:57] <jet> Launch site arrival 9AM. Approximate initiation of radio uplink: 9:45AM
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[06:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-5 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-5
[06:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DO9HO-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DO9HO-11
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[06:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-1
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[08:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WRIZ after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WRIZ
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[08:28] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Morning
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[08:41] <fsphil> morn
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[08:43] <fsphil> fleet of balloons invading france
[08:43] <Jerry_> are they on 144.8?
[08:44] <fsphil> don't know, but likely
[08:45] <G8TMV> Anyone from Project Hermes here?
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[08:46] <Jerry_> i am about 35K west of Limoges and have been listening using APRSIS32 but nothing heard yet. I am inside the blue circle
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[08:48] <eroomde> i'm in southwest london atm having a croissant, i can tell i'm the only non-local
[08:48] <eroomde> as the ground shakes and things start fluttering every time an a380 roars over skimming the roofs
[08:49] <eroomde> but everyone around me seems to not noice it
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[08:52] <jet> hi all
[08:52] <jet> we're going to be delayed by about an hour
[08:52] <Geoff-G8-> My son lives in Kew right on the river, after being there fr about 2 hours the noise of the aircraft just blends into the background
[08:52] <jet> so launch should be around 11 or proj hermes
[08:52] <Geoff-G8-> sounds good
[08:58] <G8TMV> jet: 11 local or UTC?
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[09:00] <jet> local
[09:00] <G8TMV> okay
[09:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HERMES - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HERMES
[09:04] <jet> that us
[09:04] <jet> just testing
[09:05] <Geoff-G8-> Hermes http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/
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[09:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-11 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-11
[09:15] <jet> latex gloves
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[09:19] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: HAB: HERMES should be flying today about 11:00ISH track http://t.co/z2HRFpA12t #ukhas #hab #projhermes
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[09:39] <Herman_> !flights
[09:39] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman_: Current flights: 03Project Hermes Launch 10(abf2)
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[09:40] <Yuan_> hermes, fly high!!! :)
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[09:42] <Herman_> !dial abf2
[09:42] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman_: Latest dials for 03HERMES 10(abf2): none
[09:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP2SGF_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP2SGF_chase
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[09:54] <jet> We are turning on the cameras and the trackers. Almost ready for launch.
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[10:03] <Herman_> jet: GL
[10:04] <Herman_> jet: how is the WX ?
[10:06] <jet> I'm sorry, I don't know what WX is.
[10:07] <jet> We should be launching soon.
[10:07] <G8TMV> WX == Weather
[10:07] <G8TMV> jet: For info Cambridge weather is Blue sky with a thin layer of high cloud
[10:07] <jet> Good. SLightly cloudy but not much wind and the sun is out.
[10:08] <G8TMV> jet: a radio dial frequency would be useful once you know it
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[10:09] <Geoff-G8-> !flight hermes
[10:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8-: Flight 10(abf2): 03Project Hermes Launch 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 10:00 from 03Wiltshire, UK 10(51.39469,-1.61973)
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[10:09] <Geoff-G8-> !payload hermes
[10:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8-: Payload 03HERMES 10(abf2) 03$$HERMES - 03LMT2 - 03434.485 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/500Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[10:10] <G8TMV> thanks Geoff-G8- I'd forgotton how to do that
[10:10] <Herman_> wx=wether
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[10:15] <jet> We are about to launch
[10:15] <jet> Waiting for free airspace
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[10:16] <jet> ALUNCHED
[10:17] <jet> WE ARE GO
[10:17] <jet> HERMES IS UP
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[10:17] <craag> 434.488 dial
[10:17] <craag> shift 470
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[10:19] <craag> strong but much fading
[10:19] <G8TMV> and no uploads yet
[10:20] <G8TMV> ah, yes there are
[10:20] <mfa298> very fady in southampton
[10:20] <G8TMV> I'm still outside the blue circle
[10:21] <mfa298> I've also got current dl-fldigi vs beta dl-fldigi going
[10:21] <craag> woo first green
[10:22] <craag> beta fldigi working well here
[10:22] <mfa298> I think it's currently nil-nil here.
[10:23] <mfa298> although between the two I might have a good packet
[10:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah on my own wf now
[10:24] Action: G8TMV can now hear it
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[10:25] <mfa298> for something that's 3km up that's some pretty poor stats 16 packets from 3 people
[10:25] <mfa298> half from the launch team, half from the sdr
[10:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> its fading due to the aerial position and rotation I suspect
[10:26] <craag> the antenna is horizontal
[10:26] <G8FJG_Ron> its v weak here just 10 db over noise
[10:26] <G8FJG_Ron> switching to h pol
[10:27] <mfa298> I was thinking antenna position as well.
[10:27] <mfa298> whoot, green on both versions
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[10:27] <craag> mixed-polarisation of the sdr antenna is probably helping, although we still get the 2 nulls per rotation
[10:27] <G8TMV> craag: why on earth did they use a horizontal antenna?
[10:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> rather deep nulls as well :(
[10:28] <ibanezmatt13> :/
[10:28] <mfa298> G8TMV: because thats where it came out the box
[10:28] <fsphil> we did ask
[10:28] <craag> G8TMV: It was noticed last night, and couldn't easily be fixed.
[10:28] <craag> he'll still get enough tracking to recover it, so wasn't critical
[10:28] <jet> think the spot tracker never corrected
[10:28] <G8FJG_Ron> =30 over on hpol
[10:29] <fsphil> healthy ascent rate
[10:29] <G8TMV> craag: yeah, but it makes it a lot less enjoyable for people trying to track
[10:29] <jet> The spot tracker failed
[10:29] <jet> eee
[10:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> [17:21] <jet> Surely it emits in all directions?
[10:30] <fsphil> hopefully it doen't spin too much on the way down
[10:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> spin slowing
[10:30] <G8TMV> fsphil: you are joking right?
[10:31] <fsphil> no
[10:31] <fsphil> they don't all spin like crazy when falling
[10:32] <mfa298> heh, last message from the spot says "Power Off" at 10:54
[10:32] <jet> yep
[10:32] <jet> i turned it on
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[10:34] <gonzo_> yep quite bad fading here
[10:35] <gonzo_> antenna elements bent on launch? Or very non uniform groundplane?
[10:35] <mfa298> according to stats current is doing slightly better than beta for my dl-fldigi head to head
[10:35] <craag> gonzo_: The antenna element is horizontal.
[10:35] <gonzo_> ah, not ideal
[10:36] <gonzo_> one more for the wiki page?
[10:36] <mattbrejza> meh, makes it interesting to track for once?
[10:36] <craag> I agree mattbrejza :)
[10:36] <craag> really shows off who has the best antenna :P
[10:36] <mfa298> 16:14 < jet> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/277/461/5d5e1bcefe06e4ab5ccf1df447112bf4_original.jpg?v=1438952297&w=639&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=5e80af79d993a7f21690dd342a0c42e4
[10:36] <craag> (woo go websdr)
[10:36] <G8TMV> yeah, and maybe a reminder that if people find such a design problem (even close to launch) they should delay rather than blundering blindly on
[10:37] <craag> G8TMV: It's not a critical issue
[10:37] <craag> We've tracked worse
[10:37] <gonzo_> switching to horisontal here does not really improve it
[10:37] <mfa298> craag: apparently 10:36 < mfa298> 16:14 < jet>
[10:37] <mfa298> craag: apparently G8FJG followed by me for best antenna
[10:37] <gonzo_> which is supprisong, but the fades are just as bad, whish is expected
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[10:38] <craag> sure, but considering we're using an rtlsdr..
[10:38] <G8FJG_Ron> 20 more sig on hpol
[10:38] <G8TMV> normally by now at this height/range I'd be getting every packet with no problems ...
[10:38] <G8FJG_Ron> 20db
[10:38] <G8TMV> as it is I've seen *no* green packets
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[10:38] <G8TMV> I'm getting about 80% of every packet though
[10:38] <craag> All that really matters is that between us we get enough packets to aid recovery
[10:39] <craag> and we're getting almost every packet between us
[10:39] <craag> so still 10x better than APRS lol
[10:39] <G8TMV> craag: I disagree, the point for most of us is to enjoy balloon tracking
[10:39] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[10:39] <tracker> Are you both tracking Hermes?
[10:39] <mattbrejza> !track hermes
[10:39] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hermes
[10:40] <mfa298> tracker: there's several people trying to track it
[10:40] <gonzo_> when I get peaks, it's bloody loud. But the nulls are absoute
[10:40] <G8TMV> same here
[10:40] <G8FJG_Ron> switching to hpol az-el ant now
[10:40] <tracker> What dial freq is anyone tracking Hermes on please?
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial hermes
[10:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03HERMES 10(abf2): 03434.487 MHz, 434.48734 MHz
[10:41] <G8TMV> 434.488ish
[10:41] <G8FJG_Ron> 434.487160 1khz centre
[10:41] <gonzo_> ,low tone is 434.4878 (+- 10hz)
[10:41] <tracker> Thank you :)
[10:42] <gonzo_> G8FJG_Ron, you must be gps/rubidium locked to be that precise!
[10:43] <fsphil> I've had a worse antenna on a previous flight :)
[10:43] <G8FJG_Ron> almost
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[10:43] <gonzo_> at least the freq is stable for this flight.
[10:46] <G8TMV> the spin seems to have speeded up
[10:46] <fsphil> it's pretty turbulent up there today
[10:47] <mfa298> this is where 300bd might have helped, might have had a better chance of getting packets whilst it spins
[10:47] <fsphil> yeah
[10:47] <fsphil> and some interleaving + FEC :)
[10:47] Action: G8TMV finally got a good packet
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[10:49] <craag> btw KD8TDF pico launched this morning out of Michigan
[10:49] <craag> photo of tracker from reddit: http://i.imgur.com/Uq4oSSG.jpg
[10:49] <gonzo_> this one ay be a challenge for the chase team
[10:49] <fsphil> oh cute
[10:49] <fsphil> featherhab lol
[10:50] <craag> https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/3isr9g/i_just_launched_a_diy_2_gram_highaltitude_balloon/
[10:51] <fsphil> oops, no altitude
[10:51] <craag> yeah that's a big oops :P
[10:51] <craag> but meh, still being received so still 'up' :)
[10:52] <fsphil> going for the spot experience
[10:53] <Upu> !dial hermes
[10:53] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03HERMES 10(abf2): 03434.4872 MHz, 434.4871 MHz, 434.487387 MHz, 434.487 MHz, 434.48697 MHz
[10:53] <fsphil> there are smaller gps modules too
[10:53] <Upu> whats up with the antenna ?
[10:53] <fsphil> but it's getting silly by that stage
[10:53] <craag> yeah adam's design was nice
[10:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Upu http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/payload_with_aerial.jpg
[10:54] <Upu> thats the antenna ?
[10:54] <craag> yep
[10:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup
[10:54] <Upu> oh dear
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[10:54] <jet> guys
[10:55] <Upu> Bear with me whilst I climb on the roof and change my 3 meter long yagi to horizontal polarisation
[10:55] <jet> im slightly concerned that its travelling too far
[10:55] <Upu> lol
[10:55] <jet> do i need to be worried?
[10:55] <Upu> can you do anything about it ?
[10:55] <craag> jet: still looks good to me
[10:55] <jet> no
[10:55] <jet> But it's near halfway on distance
[10:55] <craag> prediction is for 'Ely'
[10:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its following prediction nicely http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/index.php?ind=3
[10:55] <craag> so set your satnav there, and go :)
[10:56] <fsphil> it'll slow down when it reaches the higher altitude winds
[10:56] <Upu> and follow my instructions for an antenna next time :/
[10:56] <fsphil> the winds up there are not doing much
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[10:56] <jet> We already are hurtling up the m4
[10:56] <fsphil> excellent
[10:57] <jet> Because of my SDR i cant really get a good signal atm
[10:57] <jet> intermittent beeps
[10:57] <jet> Is it strong?
[10:57] <Upu> no because your antenna is incorrect orientation
[10:57] <Upu> just get close to the landing spot
[10:57] <jet> ok
[10:57] <Upu> you have it horizontal
[10:58] <Upu> we can debrief later
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[11:00] <jet> lol
[11:00] <jet> i hate the spot now
[11:00] <jet> "power off 1 hour ago"
[11:00] <jet> my fault
[11:00] <jet> obviously i pressed the button but not firmly enough
[11:01] <fsphil> wish spot sold a general purpose module for things like this
[11:01] <tracker> Signal not good in Rotherham at mo :(
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[11:03] <jet> I'm still very concerned about the horizontal speed
[11:03] <jet> It's travelled half the horizontal distance
[11:04] <craag> jet: the live predictor is still reckoning ELy for a 30km burst
[11:04] <jet> And it's got to finish its ascent
[11:04] <jet> It's going to burst around 32km
[11:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its following prediction nicely, slightly higher climb rate but nothing serious
[11:04] <craag> And there's plenty of land beyond Ely
[11:04] <jet> I overfilled it on purpose
[11:04] <fsphil> it's nearly reached the slower winds
[11:04] <craag> It's going to slow down soon
[11:04] <jet> I gave up on the stupid luggage thing
[11:04] <jet> which locked
[11:04] <jet> and used my backup bag of books weighing 2800g
[11:04] <fsphil> ah you're not far from luton. was there last week :)
[11:05] <craag> hehe yes, I had one of those for our last launch - not much fun
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[11:05] <jet> I overfilled it on purpose
[11:06] <jet> Jeez though, it's a lot of helium
[11:06] <jet> Requires some force to hold it down
[11:06] <jet> We had a bit of a problem when initially filling
[11:06] <G8TMV> jet: remember it comes down a lot faster to start with, the burst point is not half way it's more like 2/3rds
[11:06] <jet> The wind caught it, blew it straight into people
[11:06] <jet> So i hope it didn't damage the latex
[11:06] <craag> covered them in talc powder? :P
[11:06] <jet> yes....
[11:06] <craag> :D
[11:06] <fsphil> hate that stuff
[11:06] <jet> And the neck twisted
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[11:06] <jet> My shorts are now white.
[11:06] <jet> they were black.
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[11:07] <craag> you'll now be recognised on the street as a habber!
[11:07] <fsphil> welcome to the club
[11:07] <Upu> have you got the chase car app going jet ?
[11:07] <jet> or a member of a pop band
[11:07] <fsphil> don't breath that stuff in. can't be good for you :)
[11:07] <jet> Chase car app won't work
[11:07] <Herman-PB0AHX> jet: a good signaal from hermes here
[11:08] <craag> jet: android or iphone?
[11:08] <jet> iphone
[11:08] <craag> ah..
[11:08] <fsphil> hehe apple
[11:08] <Upu> http://tracker.habhub.org
[11:08] <jet> my dad's...
[11:08] <craag> open that url ^^
[11:08] <jet> I appreciate your help tracking btw guys
[11:08] <Upu> click car and turn it on
[11:09] <jet> done
[11:09] <fsphil> I tried the web chase car thing last week in london, wouldn't work for me
[11:09] <fsphil> ended up using the android decoder app
[11:09] <mfa298> Is that another for the "Stages of habbing list", realise there are better apps on android and buy a new phone...
[11:09] <jet> I enabled the mobile station thing
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[11:12] <jet> Hmm
[11:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03F5KAV-11 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F5KAV-11
[11:12] <jet> Do you think that the burst altitude could be released,
[11:13] <jet> reduced*
[11:13] <craag> if you overfilled - yes
[11:13] <jet> By the whole balloon blowing into people incident?
[11:13] <craag> I doubt it
[11:13] <fsphil> unlikely
[11:13] <jet> It hit a lot of uncovered hands/legs
[11:13] <jet> I didn't overfill too much.
[11:13] <craag> don't worry about it
[11:13] <jet> Ascent rate was 6 at launch roughly
[11:13] <craag> head for Ely
[11:13] <craag> see what happens
[11:14] <G8TMV> jet: what route do you have planned?
[11:14] <G8TMV> road wise?
[11:14] <jet> Sat nav, idk
[11:14] <jet> up the m4
[11:14] <jet> until we get of
[11:14] <jet> off
[11:15] <G8TMV> okay, it might be better for traffic avoidance to stay on the M25 and then up the M11 rather than the A1 which is what the sat nav might say
[11:16] <jet> Copy
[11:16] <G8TMV> but the M25 is a lottery anyway
[11:17] <mfa298> with any luck they're going against the flow of holiday makers so get to watch the queues whilst doing 70
[11:18] <jet> and then on the way down....
[11:18] <jet> :(
[11:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> M25 looks good at M4 Junc http://www.motorwaycameras.co.uk/viewcamera/?motorway=m25&motorwayid=16&cameraid=499
[11:19] <jet> You guys are like mission control
[11:20] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... M4 rather slow between J7 and the M25, but that's hard to avoid in any sensible manner.
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[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> actual Junc http://roadca.ms/1300
[11:20] <jet> We're in that
[11:21] <G8TMV> Ah, the balloon is at Toddington Services
[11:21] <LazyLeopard> M25 not too bad at the moment from M4 to M11. Emphasis on "at the moment" ...
[11:22] <LazyLeopard> Good luck...
[11:22] <jet> Thanks
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[11:23] <jet> horizontal slowing down
[11:23] <G8FJG_Ron> m11 slow northbound @ stansed airport turn
[11:23] <jet> We went to a farm to launch
[11:23] <jet> The farmer also happens to be a sailor
[11:23] <jet> who wanted to help us tie good knots
[11:23] <jet> ended up with the most securely knotted payload ever
[11:24] <fsphil> haha nice
[11:24] <SpeedEvil> :)
[11:24] Action: LazyLeopard decides a trip to ML&S this afternoon could be exceedingly tedious, as the M25 is running slower than usual between Reigate and Chobham...
[11:24] <jet> and i hot glued in a hand warmer!
[11:24] <jet> -7 degrees...
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[11:25] <fsphil> trips to ML&S could be very expensive too
[11:25] <craag> google maps reckons 1h55m from M25 junc to Ely via A1 -> A505
[11:25] <craag> 2h22m via M11
[11:25] <jet> sat nav says 1hr57
[11:25] <jet> counting in traffic and speed
[11:26] <craag> :)
[11:26] <jet> can anybody see the chase car on the map?????
[11:26] <fsphil> doesn't seem to be there
[11:26] <jet> i enabled mobile station
[11:26] <jet> do i have to select a name somewhere?
[11:26] <jet> for the chase car?
[11:27] <Herman-PB0AHX> a lot of qsb on the signaal from Hermes
[11:27] <jet> gsb?
[11:27] <Herman-PB0AHX> yes flutering
[11:27] <jet> I can't receive at all. I'm speeding up the m4, looking crazy
[11:27] <jet> wire out of the window connected to a antenna on the roof
[11:28] <craag> jet: Yes, so click the 'car' icon at the top (on tracker.habhub.org)
[11:28] <craag> then there should be an 'Enable' switch
[11:28] <craag> and a 'Callsign' text box
[11:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0DNY_Test_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0DNY_Test_chase
[11:28] <craag> works in chrome devtools as iphone 6 user agent
[11:29] <fsphil> interesting, I dont' have the car icon
[11:29] <craag> what device fsphil ?
[11:29] <fsphil> must only appear if the position is known
[11:29] <fsphil> laptop
[11:29] <craag> yeah, looks for mobile user agent I think
[11:30] <jet> hmm
[11:30] <jet> im using 3g dongle
[11:30] <craag> that should be fine
[11:30] <craag> but you need to open the page on a phone
[11:30] <craag> (so it's got the gps to use)
[11:30] <jet> ok
[11:31] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[11:31] <jet> on the phone no locationa vailable
[11:31] <craag> is there an icon at the top indicating that it's asking for access to the phone's location data?
[11:32] <G8TMV> and is the phone gps turned on?
[11:32] <craag> (don't have a fruity device, don't know how that works)
[11:32] <jet> stuck in traffic
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[11:37] <craag> jet: What device / ios version / browser are you using?
[11:38] <jet> windows 7 old samsung laptop
[11:38] <jet> chrome
[11:38] <jet> phone is iphone 6 (not mine)
[11:40] <jet> that green circle looks big
[11:40] <jet> is it good to receive??>
[11:41] <jet> sdr is getting scraps
[11:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> My wf http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/wf.png
[11:42] <dave-mob> So long as you're nearby and receiving when it lands, that's all you need
[11:42] <dave-mob> Between launch and then it's everyone else's problem :-)
[11:43] Action: G8TMV has dug out and old 70cms moxon and now has a horizontaly polarised antenna so is getting better sigs
[11:44] <Andrew_M0NRD> yes switched to my horizontal yagi and signal much better, bent antenna? bad fading
[11:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> The aerial http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/payload_with_aerial.jpg
[11:44] <G8TMV> I usually use a vertical co-linear for tracking which is very high up above the apex of the roof
[11:44] <dave-mob> Not bent ... Actually assumed horizontally
[11:45] <dave-mob> Aimed ^
[11:45] <craag> rotation has now massively slowed
[11:45] <craag> almost solid decodes on websdr
[11:45] <Andrew_M0NRD> ok.. wondered why collinear was getting poor signal
[11:45] <jet> excellent
[11:46] <jet> solid ascension
[11:46] <jet> I pray that the balloon with the messages in burst.
[11:46] <craag> burst?
[11:46] <G8TMV> very funny signal - burst?
[11:47] <dave-mob> It has little choice
[11:47] <craag> very very fast fading
[11:47] <G8TMV> yup burst
[11:47] <jet> BURST
[11:47] <jet> woo!
[11:47] <dave-mob> Burst or aliens then
[11:47] <craag> 30184m - on the way down
[11:47] <G8TMV> pretty much exactly as predicted too
[11:47] <craag> nice filling jet
[11:48] <jet> :D
[11:48] <jet> is the vertical speed normal?
[11:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Burst was 20Km short of prediction horizontal distance that is
[11:48] <jet> parachute deployed?
[11:48] <G8TMV> it will be very high to start with because the air is very thin
[11:48] <craag> jet: it's normal
[11:48] <mfa298> jet, it'll be very fast initially
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[11:49] <mfa298> not much air for the parachute to work with
[11:49] <craag> prediction still showing Ely
[11:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> jet are you on M25 yet ?
[11:49] <jet> no
[11:49] <jet> near slough
[11:49] <jet> mega traffic, had to divert
[11:50] <jet> i really don't want it to get stolen..
[11:51] <craag> that's very unlikely - so don't panic
[11:51] <G8TMV> it's out in the middle of nowhere
[11:52] <jet> ok
[11:52] <jet> I'm going to be a long way away
[11:52] <jet> ridic traffic.
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[11:53] <jet> The tracking seems to do well
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[11:56] <jet> I just HOPE the balloon with the messages in burst
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[11:58] <jet> also.. i dont know what you were on about
[11:58] <jet> "long fill"
[11:59] <jet> took 5-10 mins
[11:59] <craag> Oh that's good
[11:59] <craag> those little fillers are sometimes rate limited
[11:59] <craag> has taken 30 mins for people before!
[12:00] <jet> not going to be at the balloon for atleast 2hr
[12:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> what was the balloon with the messages in made of ?
[12:01] <G8TMV> Are any of the Cambridge based trackers in here?
[12:01] <jet> latex
[12:01] <jet> it was one of those large party balloons
[12:02] <G8TMV> jet: was it attached to the main balloon?
[12:02] <jet> yes, filled with air
[12:02] <jet> (not totally filled)
[12:02] <G8TMV> almost certainly gone then otherwise it would be affecting the fall
[12:03] <jet> yep it's slowing down
[12:03] <mfa298> i suspect it burst quite early on
[12:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothing obvious on the flight profile to show where it might have burst http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/flight_profile_1203.JPG
[12:11] <jet> stopping and beaconsfield for toilets
[12:11] <jet> at services
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[12:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G7LBL_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G7LBL_chase
[12:15] <jet> who is chasing...?
[12:15] <jet> that's not me
[12:15] <G8TMV> not sure - not a callsign I recognise
[12:15] <dave-mob> jet the m4 east was closed earlier just before the M25 to remove a car+trailer that had crashed or spun
[12:15] <jet> I am worried...
[12:16] <jet> The prediction shows it landing near a river, road, and train line
[12:16] <dave-mob> Stopped me for 30 mins
[12:16] <jet> Plus there's a strange chase car after it
[12:16] <jet> Who the hell is that person chasing!?????
[12:16] <G8FJG_Ron> could be the Calvary
[12:16] <jet> This person could steal it?
[12:16] <dave-mob> Well if it's a crook of a stupid one :-)
[12:16] <craag> Dr AD Batey is all I could find
[12:16] <dave-mob> Its
[12:17] <craag> jet: they might just be playing with the apps
[12:17] <jet> no, it's going after the hermes
[12:17] <G8FJG_Ron> Cavalry
[12:17] <dave-mob> Jet calm down
[12:18] <jet> I am 2 hours away
[12:18] <jet> And idk if someone is going to steal it
[12:18] <craag> jet: If they are - it's to help you out.
[12:18] <craag> But they haven't moved
[12:18] <jet> they hae lol
[12:18] <jet> i am watching
[12:19] <jet> it could very easily be a thief
[12:19] <craag> All I see is gps noise movement
[12:19] <craag> If it was - they wouldn't put a tracker on themselves
[12:19] <G8TMV> no - it's G7LBL which means we know who he is
[12:20] <jet> who is that?
[12:20] <craag> including a callsign which can be linked to his name/address!
[12:20] <jet> oh
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[12:20] <G8TMV> AD BATEY
[12:20] <G8TMV> HADDOWS CLOSE
[12:20] <G8TMV> LONGSTANTON, CAMBRIDGE, CB4 5DJ
[12:20] <dave-mob> Would have to be an extremely stupid crook :-)
[12:21] <jet> at least i have info for the police
[12:21] <jet> :)
[12:21] <jet> I was hoping i'd get to film the recovery
[12:21] <G8TMV> jet: he may well go find it and then watch it to keep it safe for you
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[12:22] <jet> really>
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[12:22] <jet> people wait 2+hrs?
[12:22] <dave-mob> In practice, these things almost always land where with nobody around except perhaps a cow
[12:22] <jet> it's predicted to land on the A10.
[12:22] <craag> people have been sitting at their computers for that long already helping track your payload jet :)
[12:23] <Hermes_> Does anybody know who G7LBL Chase is on the map
[12:23] <craag> but - he still hasn't moved - so we'll see.
[12:23] <jet> dan get off :p
[12:23] <jet> i already found oiut
[12:23] <Hermes_> why?
[12:23] <craag> Hermes_: I think he's just someone playing with the apps
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[12:24] <jet> nooo not the a10
[12:24] <jet> please not the a10
[12:25] <dave-mob> <scouse> calm down calm down
[12:25] <G8TMV> jet the A10 is a tiny road there
[12:25] <jet> or the river
[12:25] <jet> as a matter of fact
[12:25] <craag> lot of trees to catch it
[12:26] <dave-mob> Trees usually win
[12:26] <G8FJG_Ron> I'm going to lose it soon..blue horizon approaching
[12:26] <G8TMV> It's heading to a pub/restarant - probably thirsty
[12:27] <G8TMV> I've pretty much lost it - the only hill in Cambs is between it and me
[12:28] <G8FJG_Ron> just reds
[12:28] <G8TMV> well it's across the A10
[12:31] <G8TMV> I have to head out to the North side of Cambridge - I'll take my radio but can't upload positions
[12:31] <G8FJG_Ron> phone the pub Hannam's Wake Hub 01353 649683
[12:31] <jet> do any of you still have a signal now its landed?
[12:31] <Geoff-G8DHE_> It i'll be close to the little marina http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/index.php?ind=11
[12:31] <jet> im on the move aain
[12:31] <jet> m25
[12:32] <Upu> nope thats why you need to be near it jet
[12:32] <G8TMV> jet: can you send a text to 07799143369 so I have your phone number and I'll text you back any updates
[12:32] <jet> ok, thanks
[12:32] <G8TMV> people can follow my car on aprs.fi as G8TMV-9
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[12:32] <G8TMV> once I get moving
[12:32] <Upu> .aprs add G8TMV-9
[12:32] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Added 03G8TMV-9 to APRS Importer
[12:33] <G8TMV> thanks upu
[12:33] <jet> texted
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[12:33] <G8TMV> will be about 10 mins before I move - I have to get ready for the rest of the day
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[12:36] <jet> hope to retrieve it myself..got a long pole
[12:36] <jet> no euphemism
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[12:42] <jet> We are on the m25
[12:42] <jet> 2hr20min drive
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[12:42] <jet> atfer entering gps coords
[12:43] <G8TMV> Right - I'm heading out - I will be monitoring the repeater GB3PY if anyone is in range of it to pass info
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[12:45] <jet> Thank you
[12:45] <jet> We are speeding along now (at 70...)
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[12:57] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Doesn't look like G8TMV-9 is being imported ?
[13:00] <jet> 1hr50 out
[13:00] <jet> excluding traffic
[13:03] <LazyLeopard> Geoff-G8DHE: I guess not... He's showing well enough on APRS.fi though.
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[13:14] <Upu> .aprs add G8TMV-9
[13:14] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Added 03G8TMV-9 to APRS Importer
[13:14] <Upu> .aprs list
[13:14] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Tracking via APRS: 03DK3SB-10, 03DK3SB-8, 03G8TMV-9, 03KD5ZPL-11, 03M0UPU-7, 03M0UPU-8, 03M0UPU-9, 03SP3OSJ-12
[13:14] <Upu> ping lz1dev
[13:15] <jet> !dial hermes
[13:15] <SpacenearUS> 03jet: Latest dials for 03HERMES 10(abf2): none
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Looks like its down in the first field, should be a very easy retrival
[13:16] <jet> you can see?
[13:17] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Another fix came in
[13:17] <Geoff-G8DHE_> and G8TMV is on site
[13:17] <jet> ok
[13:17] <jet> i dont want them to take
[13:17] <jet> want to retrieve
[13:18] <Upu> he won't
[13:18] <jet> how do u know? you speaking to him?
[13:18] <Upu> you've not spent enough time here :)
[13:18] <Upu> http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FG8TMV-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600
[13:18] <jet> no i haven't
[13:19] <jet> Just concerned that somebody will take it down
[13:19] <jet> As I have a camera planned for filming of it
[13:19] <Upu> its fine you have a friendly onsite
[13:20] <jet> Ofc. But what he is doing is the question...;
[13:20] <jet> Eating the payload?
[13:20] <Upu> helping you out
[13:22] <Upu> he's got the final position
[13:23] <jet> 50 minutes out
[13:23] <jet> Fanstastic.
[13:23] <Upu> Ely Road CB25 9PZ
[13:23] <jet> thank you
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[13:24] <Upu> you're in a field
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[13:25] <Geoff-G8DHE_> There you go http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/HERMES_20150829/HERMES_201508291230_landing_spot.jpg
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[13:25] <jet> Does anybody have contact details for the person in the field?
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[13:25] <Upu> just get there i'm sure he'll be obvious
[13:25] <Upu> clue look for the car with antennas
[13:27] <jet> he's staying?
[13:27] <mfa298> jet, pretty sure you already have his contact details
[13:27] <Upu> I have no idea :)
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://www.tuckley.org/colin.html
[13:27] <jet> Oh, it's colin?
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Yes
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[13:28] <jet> OK i'll call
[13:28] <jet> text
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[13:30] <jet> I texted him asking if he wouldn't mind leaving the payload untouched so that we can film retrieval
[13:30] <jet> And thanks for his help in narrowing the actual location
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[13:37] <jet> no response
[13:39] <Upu> probably too busy stealing your stuff to answer
[13:39] <jet> eeeeeeeeee
[13:39] <jet> 30 mins till i get there
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[13:40] <mfa298> he may be off somewhere else so might not be able to reply straight away
[13:40] <G8TMV_> right, finally got the laptop to behave
[13:40] <craag> jet: ^^
[13:40] <Upu> maybe...he's here right now :)
[13:40] <G8TMV_> I can't get a browser to work
[13:41] <G8TMV_> jet: I'll go find it but won't touch it
[13:41] <G8TMV_> cn someone tell me the rough direction from my location
[13:41] <jet> oh thanks
[13:41] <Upu> should be in the field next to the farm
[13:41] <jet> Thank you for your help
[13:41] <G8TMV_> dir?
[13:41] <Upu> imports not working G8TMV so 1 sec
[13:41] <jet> You probably get a call from my friend in a moment
[13:41] <jet> xd
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Back down the road and there is an entrance into the field
[13:41] <jet> Appreciate your help in narrowing down
[13:42] <jet> ik, my mission control (friend) sent me some maps
[13:42] <jet> next to a farm sorta thing.
[13:42] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Looks more like a food factory
[13:42] <jet> Goody... free snacks.
[13:42] <jet> £20 reward for them
[13:43] <Upu> ok follow the sign to the lazy otter
[13:43] <Geoff-G8DHE_> See here http://tinyurl.com/pfuhwwq
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[13:43] <Upu> oh
[13:43] <Upu> if you're on that road near the lazy otter
[13:43] <G8TMV_> just had the call
[13:44] <G8TMV_> I'm going to see if I can find it
[13:44] <Upu> go back down the road away from the lazy otter to the A10
[13:44] <G8TMV_> but won't touch!
[13:44] <Upu> 2 fields on your left if you do that
[13:44] <G8TMV_> shutting down
[13:44] <Upu> its in the second one
[13:44] <Upu> near hannams wake hub
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[13:44] <Geoff-G8DHE_> "The produce Connection Ltd"
[13:44] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Its in the field to the north of it
[13:44] <jet> colin, no worries if you can't
[13:45] <jet> Everybody here and especially yourself have helped tremendously
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[13:45] <jet> You are eligible for the £20 award
[13:45] <jet> :)
[13:46] <jet> and if you would like, mention on our twitter/website/KSupdate
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[13:48] <jet> just so you know, when I turn up, we will be filming
[13:49] <jet> i'll be sending the makeup department :)
[13:49] <Upu> I predict a career in the media
[13:49] <jet> 19 mins till we arrive
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[13:52] <jet> May be slightly delayed by a toilet and petrol stop.
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[13:58] <jet> 6 mins out
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[14:02] <jet> nearly here
[14:05] <jet> the lazy otter is being used as a toilet break.
[14:06] <Upu> well just down the road and its in a field on your left
[14:06] <jet> yup
[14:06] <jet> mission control is giving me my maps
[14:06] <jet> :)
[14:06] <Upu> just stick the coordinates in your mapping application which you installed
[14:07] <jet3> He's getting confused by my clear instructions.
[14:08] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[14:11] <mattbrejza> !track hermies
[14:11] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hermies
[14:12] <craag> lol matt
[14:12] <craag> !track hermes
[14:12] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=hermes
[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5LWQ-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5LWQ-13
[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5QVG-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5QVG-12
[14:17] <mattbrejza> yyea i corrected it
[14:18] <jet> were searching
[14:18] <jet> with colkin
[14:22] <jet3> I hope that you're filming
[14:28] <jet> i am
[14:28] <jet> i need the image of it landing?
[14:28] <jet> does anyone have the image from google earth of its position in the field?
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[14:29] <G8FJG_Ron> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=satellite&mz=18&qm=1_day&f=HERMES
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[14:29] <jet> thanks
[14:30] <jet> the satellite image is outdated
[14:30] <jet> there is full grown corn in the field
[14:30] <jet> very difficult search
[14:30] <jubatus> does anyone here have a copy of u-blox's u-center version 8.16 or 8.15 on a publicly accessible ftp/http ? (they don't offer any except the latest version for download on their site)
[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03G-12 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G-12
[14:33] <LazyLeopard> Do you have a hand-held GPSr into which you can put a position? N 52.32337 E 0.20314 (or N 52 19.402 E 000 12.188 ) is the most recent position being shown on HabHub
[14:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03lztest_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=lztest_chase
[14:37] <G8FJG_Ron> its 130 mtrs into the field and 50 mtrs from the north edge ish
[14:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03NM5SS-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=NM5SS-1
[14:42] <G8FJG_Ron> http://i.imgur.com/OhUbnDs.png
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[14:55] <G8FJG_Ron> time to get your df antenna out http://i.imgur.com/BaetEzO.jpg
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[14:57] <LazyLeopard> Heh. They're having fun looking for a payload in a maize field, 'cos the maize is 8 foot tall.
[14:59] <LazyLeopard> Is the payload light enough to be suck in the fronts above head height, I wonder...
[14:59] <LazyLeopard> stuck, even...
[14:59] <LazyLeopard> fronds, even...
[14:59] <LazyLeopard> Sheesh... tpynig not the best this afternoon...
[15:01] <G8FJG_Ron> shades of Mel Gibson in Signs
[15:01] <LazyLeopard> ;)
[15:01] <LazyLeopard> That's a serious antenna, Ron.
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[15:03] <G8FJG_Ron> you should see the others ;) my neighbours "love" them
[15:06] <LazyLeopard> ...and blame you for all sorts of stuff as a result? Mobile phone stopped working? TV reception gone to pot? Must be your fault!
[15:06] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Ha I was wondering what aerials you had, nice array!
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[15:07] <G8FJG_Ron> yep even sour milk, and interfering with my electric drill,
[15:08] <Geoff-G8DHE_> :)
[15:08] <G8FJG_Ron> I change them like others change their pants,,,at least once a month http://i.imgur.com/ttMUUOi.jpg
[15:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> :-) like it, mine get a service once a year at most ;-)
[15:09] <G8FJG_Ron> ah well off to do the Saturday curry...hope they find it..
[15:10] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://tinyurl.com/4a5gq3
[15:10] <G8FJG_Ron> Geoff ....pants or antenna
[15:10] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Pants of course!
[15:11] <G8FJG_Ron> :-)) not tried 13cms yet!
[15:11] <G8FJG_Ron> afk
[15:11] <Geoff-G8DHE_> There all for TV work primarily so broadband versions
[15:11] <G8FJG_Ron> ok
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[15:18] <LazyLeopard> Ah. Payload found, according to a text I have received!
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[15:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8TMV-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8TMV-9
[15:30] <Upu> .aprs del G8TMV-9
[15:30] <Upu> .aprs remove G8TMV-9
[15:30] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Removed 03G8TMV-9 from APRS Importer
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[15:34] <LazyLeopard> Ah, a new line in transport. ;)
[15:42] <jet> hermes has been recovered
[15:42] <jet> Thanks to colin
[15:42] <jet> we managed to use the little loc8tor in the box
[15:42] <jet> in the middle of a massive corn field
[15:44] <eroomde> very well done jet
[15:45] <jet> unfortunately backers messages didnt launch
[15:45] <jet> from the mini balloon
[15:45] <jet> as we underfilled it
[15:45] <jet> so we released that in another helium balloon just now
[15:45] <jet> not the same, but they have been in near space
[15:45] <LazyLeopard> ...from
[15:45] <LazyLeopard> Oops
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[15:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03IK2XKF-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IK2XKF-7
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[15:52] <jet> right
[15:52] <jet> please dont tune into hermes
[15:52] <jet> it's on the road
[15:52] <jet> didn't open up the box yet
[15:53] <jet> that would be g0wxi
[15:55] <jet> Well, successful flight
[15:55] <jet> I'll have some images and videos up in a few days
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[16:00] <Upu> surprised you got in your car with the transmitter going
[16:02] <jet> Yep.
[16:02] <jet> Lithium batteries.
[16:02] <Upu> no the radio can jam the car key fob
[16:02] <jet> oh
[16:02] <jet> it didn't
[16:02] <jet> land rover with automatic key,
[16:03] <jet> Hope we got some good footage.
[16:03] <Upu> I'd turn everything off
[16:03] <jet> The messages didn't launch as we didn't fill the mini balloon enough, so we released another small one roadside
[16:03] <jet> Also, cred to colin's car
[16:03] <jet> boss aerials.
[16:04] <Upu> told you to look for the aerials
[16:04] <jet> I thought APRS was america only
[16:04] <jet> or HAM license required
[16:04] <jet> I know he has one
[16:04] <Upu> needs a license
[16:04] <jet> right.
[16:04] <Upu> but no its world wide
[16:05] <Upu> but anyone who has APRS in their car will invariably have more antennas on the roof :)
[16:06] <eroomde> yes
[16:06] <eroomde> i think the idea is that you could coordinate a battle from your car
[16:06] <Upu> lol
[16:06] <jet> I honestly don't think we would have found it without colin
[16:06] <jet> It was in a mega thick corn field
[16:06] <jet> 7-8ft corn
[16:06] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 8 ft = 2.44 m
[16:07] <Upu> you just need a nav app on your phone
[16:07] <jet> We did
[16:07] <jet> No signal there.
[16:07] <Upu> offline one :)
[16:07] <eroomde> old fashioned gps units
[16:07] <jet> In the end, the little loc8tor tag worked
[16:07] <jet> While walking, the handheld unit beeped
[16:07] <jet> after 5 minutes running around waiting for it to beep faster, we found it
[16:07] <jet> Most of the latex was attached
[16:08] <jet> He advised us to chuck it in the bin, as it would stink out the car (bin next to landing site!)
[16:08] <eroomde> they don't seem to shred nearly as well as the kaymonts
[16:08] <jet> Lol
[16:08] <jet> cred to the balloon though. hit about 4 people, twisted and nearly burst part of it
[16:09] <jet> i guess good preparation pays off ;)
[16:12] <eroomde> https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/shop/garmin-gpsmap-64s-gps-bundle.html
[16:12] <eroomde> wouldn't mind one of them
[16:13] <number10> i have the previous gps64 version, is a good gps
[16:14] <number10> receiver
[16:15] <jet> Now everything is over
[16:16] <number10> had an etrex before and often got poor position
[16:16] <jet> I'd like to say thank you to all of you for your help tracking the balloon
[16:16] <jet> It has been a very enjoyable, fun day
[16:16] <jet> And resulted in a successful recovery of the payload.
[16:17] <eroomde> can't argue with that for a first attempt
[16:17] <eroomde> i hope the pics and videos turn out well
[16:18] <jet> I think they will
[16:18] <jet> I hope backers don't mind about the messages
[16:18] <jet> they have been released anyway
[16:19] <jet> The key to my success: hot glue
[16:19] <jet> I've used about 20 sticks over the whole project
[16:19] <jet> 3 today
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[16:27] <jet> Hot glued down the cameras, trackers,
[16:29] <jet> No wonder you do this as a hobby!
[16:30] <jet> signing off now until home, ciao
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[17:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB0MC-3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB0MC-3
[17:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9QBK-6 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9QBK-6
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[18:05] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[18:05] <Lunar_Lander> back from bad bentheim and meeting DL1SGP
[18:05] <Lunar_Lander> was nice, also got a nice yagi https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1lke6hPHKJDYTRLZ2IwWDhvS2s/view
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[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:14] <jet> hi all
[18:14] <jet> very busy
[18:14] <jet> sneak pic
[18:14] <jet> https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/402/925/2a5148522cb3e4a477b0eb8cd96afc25_original.JPG?v=1440871986&w=639&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=1c7786b933b3ef5b4d0ce1d238aec958
[18:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
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[19:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI6VBK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI6VBK-11
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[20:38] <jet> Amount of raw footage from cameras is ridiculous!
[20:38] <jet> We're looking at ~50GB video
[20:41] Action: G8TMV gets home
[20:41] <fsphil> 50gb ain't too bad :)
[20:42] <G8TMV> I'm knackered, what with wandering around an 8' Maize field for an hour and then a load of people at a BBQ
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[20:42] <jet> Ah.... how was the BBQ?
[20:42] <jet> We owe our payload to you. Hope you enjoyed the beer on us!
[20:43] <G8TMV> it was good, it's still going on but I was a bit dead and need to pace myself since it continues tomorrow
[20:43] <SpeedEvil> Not found?
[20:43] <jet> ?
[20:43] <G8TMV> glad you had a fun day even with the stress of a difficult recovery
[20:43] <fsphil> the bbq, not the recovery :)
[20:43] <jet> o
[20:43] <SpeedEvil> ah
[20:43] <SpeedEvil> :)_
[20:43] <fsphil> not sure I'd survive a multi-day bbq
[20:44] <fsphil> just as well we don't get the weather for it :)
[20:44] <jet> G8TMV Yes we did :) lots of driving
[20:44] <G8TMV> the Debian-uk annual BBQ is always a 2 day affair - we need it that long to drink all the free beer
[20:44] <jet> We have loads of footage
[20:44] <jet> I'm currently copying 50GB of video to the NAS.... then the FTP server
[20:45] <fsphil> ooh debian uk have a bbq. don't think fedora have that
[20:45] <jet> or ubuntu
[20:45] <fsphil> who? :)
[20:45] <G8TMV> fsphil: http://wiki.earth.li/DebianParty2015
[20:45] <jet> g8tmv: https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/004/402/925/2a5148522cb3e4a477b0eb8cd96afc25_original.JPG?v=1440871986&w=639&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=1c7786b933b3ef5b4d0ce1d238aec958
[20:45] <jet> There's a load of HQ footage of ascent, bursting, and the corn field crash
[20:46] <fsphil> cakes. sheesh
[20:46] <jet> Including frightening footage of it near 3 lakes and the marina.l
[20:46] <fsphil> might tempt me to switch
[20:46] <mfa298> for the amount ubuntu charge for some stuff I'd hope they do more than a bbq (or at least should have really good stuff at it)
[20:47] <G8TMV> Having got home to a decent net connection, those images from the tracker are pretty much spot on for where it was found
[20:47] <jet> Yup
[20:47] <jet> I left the payload sealed until we got home
[20:47] <jet> Someone tracked us for about 10mins driving in the car.
[20:47] <G8TMV> the main difference is that the middle of the field was filled by a 40' high pile of scrap wood
[20:48] <G8TMV> and the crop was 8' high
[20:48] <jet> Scrap wood covered in various nails and tetanus-inducing metal
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[20:48] <jet> g8tmv, I have footage of us finding the payload
[20:48] <fsphil> urg
[20:49] <jet> To be honest, when the landing site is surrounded by lakes and a river,
[20:49] <G8TMV> jet: good, post links to the ukhas mail list when it's all sorted out
[20:49] <jet> You can't complain when it's in a corn field
[20:49] <fsphil> yes it could have been much worse
[20:49] <jet> g8tmv by posting on the UKHAS google group? i put a launch announcement on there.
[20:49] <G8TMV> yup
[20:49] <jet> The live prediction had it landing in the middle of the a10 at one point
[20:49] <jet> and in the river another
[20:50] <jet> g8mtv is going to be a superstar on very, very shaky camera!
[20:51] <G8TMV> oh dear!
[20:51] <G8TMV> good job I had a haircut yesterday :)
[20:51] <LazyLeopard> Heh
[20:51] <jet> I contacted your agent
[20:52] <jet> You'll be on Monday's edition front cover of HAB! Today
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[20:56] <jet> http://oi60.tinypic.com/69pzjn.jpg
[20:56] <jet> and i'm copying another 12gb
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[20:57] <mattbrejza> 10/10 tinypic, it loaded the ads but not the actual image
[20:58] <mattbrejza> irc pros use imgur ;)
[20:58] <fsphil> I got the image but it was too small to read
[20:59] <mattbrejza> so did they get the landing?
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[21:04] <jet> lol
[21:04] <jet> imguring
[21:04] <jet> http://i.imgur.com/ftJBZnD.jpg
[21:04] <jet> Yes, we got the landing on 2/3 cameras
[21:05] <jet> The 360 one ran out of battery as expected
[21:05] <jet> storage space*
[21:05] <jet> as seemingly
[21:05] <jet> 10gb of stuff wasn't deleted when I formatted it
[21:06] <jet> but still, we got the ascent and a fair bit of the descent in 360deg
[21:06] <mattbrejza> whoops
[21:06] <mattbrejza> good going though
[21:07] <jet> and the SPOT...
[21:07] <jet> I didn't turn it on :P
[21:07] <jet> Well, I didn't press the on button hard enough
[21:08] <mattbrejza> showing once again how crappy they are :P
[21:10] <jet> ironically, the loc8tor > spot
[21:10] <Laurenceb__> http://gbtimes.com/china/rocket-engine-smashes-house-after-chinese-satellite-launch
[21:10] <jet> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0012GMDC4?keywords=loc8tor&qid=1440882622&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2
[21:11] <jet> Would never have found payload w/out it
[21:13] <Laurenceb__> http://blog.amal.net/wp-content/uploads/img_4554.jpg
[21:13] <Laurenceb__> interesting device
[21:13] <Laurenceb__> looks like custom asic
[21:15] <fsphil> ET
[21:15] <fsphil> what is it?
[21:16] <jet> Doing some digging on the site
[21:18] <jet> Site layout is a bit bizarre
[21:19] <jet> LOL!
[21:20] <jet> I found it by running a reverse image search
[21:20] <jet> It's the inside of a loc8tor
[21:20] <jet> http://amal.net/?p=60
[21:20] <jet> Modded to fit inside a notebook i believe
[21:26] <gonzo_nb> was the payload buried under the crop?
[21:27] <gonzo_nb> you can do a similar job with a scanner. set to fm and just walk aroung to get the quietest signal. taking off the antenna when you get close
[21:28] <jet> g8tmv tried that with his rado
[21:28] <gonzo_nb> did similat wit an 817 when stumbling around in the pitch black to search for someone's payload that landedclose to me
[21:29] <jet> Didn't work
[21:29] <jet> It was a very strong signal
[21:29] <gonzo_nb> it needs to be quite a wekk shjielded radio to work close in
[21:29] <gonzo_nb> well
[21:30] <gonzo_nb> my scanner has a little attenuator that helps
[21:31] <gonzo_nb> but you recovered it. so a good first flight
[21:31] <G8TMV> gonzo_nb: the 817 does df quite well if you set the RFGain/SQUELCH control up in the menu as RFgain and then turn it way down
[21:31] <G8TMV> I had a small moxon antenna which is directional
[21:31] <gonzo_nb> and the radio rtty tracker worked. but sounds like you need to work on your chase car receiver
[21:31] <G8TMV> the problem was that it was difficult to do anything inside the crop because of the density
[21:32] <jet> I'll get you an image of what it was like lol
[21:32] <gonzo_nb> yep, can imagine at this time of year
[21:32] <G8TMV> once we all started walking in the crop it only took about40 mins to find
[21:32] <G8TMV> inside 8' tall maize you can only see about 5m
[21:33] <gonzo_nb> also, the use of a horisontally polarised tx antenns didn't do you any favours. Though I'm sure that has been said
[21:33] <jet> http://i.imgur.com/OO90vTN.jpg
[21:34] <gonzo_nb> used to play in that stuff as a kid. easilly got lost ang had to be guided out by DFing the shouts of friends
[21:34] <G8TMV> I made sure I had a working compass before heading into it
[21:34] <jet> We just headed for the trees
[21:35] <jet> can see those at each edge
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[21:37] <jet> g8tmv we have your big break
[21:38] <jet> http://i.imgur.com/S7qe1lP.jpg
[21:38] <Upu> the final GPS position from the tracker should be +/- 2m
[21:38] <Upu> so we stick it in Locus Pro/Backwater navigtor/whatever is iphone friendly and follow the arrow
[21:39] <Upu> but yeah that field sucks
[21:39] <G8TMV> jet: :)
[21:40] <G8TMV> Upu: yeah, I realised when I got the final coordinates that I didn't have my usual GPSr with me and I couldn't work out how to put a waypoint into my phone to give me an arrow pointer to follow
[21:41] <jet> Plus there was no reception for GPS
[21:41] <jet> So we would have needed one of those offline GPSers
[21:42] <Upu> how do you mean no reception for GPS ?
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[21:43] <Upu> just tap in the coords and follow the arrow
[21:43] <Upu> doesn't need a mpa
[21:43] <Upu> anyway good job
[21:43] <G8TMV> jet: there was no problem with GPS recpetion, but there was such bad cell/data reception that the phone wouldn't produce a map to follow - hence the need for a plain GPS app
[21:43] <Upu> and glad I convinced you to go radio :)
[21:44] <jet> i meant cell phone reception
[21:44] <jet> 3g/4g etc. :)
[21:44] <Upu> you don't need it
[21:44] <jet> didn't have an offline map in advance... :(
[21:44] <Upu> you don't need it
[21:44] <jet> we tried entering the co-ords
[21:44] <Laurenceb__> https://ca.rstenpresser.de/blag/2015/02/fix-broken-pins-on-qfp-package/
[21:44] <jet> didn't guide
[21:44] <G8TMV> Upu: do you have a reccomendation for an Android GPS tracker app?
[21:45] <Upu> I use Locus Pro
[21:45] <Upu> Dave uses Backwater Navigator
[21:45] <G8TMV> jet: it didn't guide because it was trying to download a map I suspect
[21:45] <Upu> both can do offline OSM maps
[21:45] <jet> I'll have a few photos up in a few mins.
[21:52] <G8TMV> Upu: do you have a link for Backwater Navigator - my Google fu seems to be failing me
[21:56] <jet> Backwater navigator doesn't seem to be popular
[21:56] <jet> Can't find it
[22:00] <jet> taking a few snips of videos
[22:00] <G8TMV> I'm going to go and tidy up and head to bed
[22:01] <G8TMV> jet: post the photo links to the ukhas list on google groups so people see them
[22:01] <G8TMV> G'night all
[22:01] <Upu> try locus pro
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[22:01] <jet> It's going to be facebook photos
[22:01] <jet> Imgur too?
[22:01] <jet> Night.
[22:02] <Upu> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=menion.android.locus.pro
[22:02] <G8TMV> facebook is okay for me - but make sure they are viewable by people who you have not friended
[22:02] <Upu> sorry
[22:02] <Upu> https://play.google.com/store/search?q=backcountry%20navigator&c=apps
[22:02] <Upu> Backcountry...
[22:02] <G8TMV> Bad upu - no bikkit
[22:02] <Upu> heh
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[22:04] <jet> Ok, I'll do so
[22:05] <Lunar_Lander> so hermes went well?
[22:05] <Upu> He got it back so yeah :)
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> nice
[22:06] <Lunar_Lander> dl1sgp and I actually discussed it when we met up today
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[22:17] <daveake> evenings
[22:17] <jet> hello daveake
[22:20] <jet> just uploading 65GB of media to ftp server :)
[22:21] <jet> thank god plusnet hasn't got a fair usage policy for unlimited broadband.
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> yay
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[22:22] <SpeedEvil> I have gotten int teh bad habit of having a video stream on most of the day
[22:23] <SpeedEvil> Holy crap.
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> Just checked. 200g/o
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> mo
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[22:40] <jet> OK
[22:40] <jet> some initial photos are up
[22:40] <jet> https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1463144530682224&id=100009600739589
[22:42] <SpeedEvil> Was that two balloons?
[22:42] <SpeedEvil> Or am I needing more sleep
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[22:45] <jet> Yes, two balloons
[22:46] <jet> The second one contained messages
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> ah
[22:46] <jet> Failed to burst due to severe underinflation
[22:46] <jet> So we just released the messages in another helium filled (party) balloon
[22:46] <jet> roadside
[22:46] <jet> btw we had 3 aircraft going over at launch time
[22:46] <jet> gyrocopter, passenger jet and light aircraft
[22:47] <fsphil> normal enough
[22:47] <fsphil> ok maybe not the gyrocopter
[22:47] <jet> LITERALLY all at the same time when we wanted to launch
[22:47] <jet> hadn't heard a peep previously
[22:48] <fsphil> I do believe my notams attract aircraft
[22:48] <daveake> yup
[22:51] <jet> lol: http://i.imgur.com/ikmgAWi.jpg
[22:51] <jet> Only 64GB to go!
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[22:55] <jet> bit late for me now. long day.
[22:55] <jet> ciao all and thanks for the tracking :)
[22:55] <jet> will keep you updated with vids asap
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