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[08:01] <fsphil> yea
[08:02] <fsphil> heck even with a normal lens the moon is tiny
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[09:43] <gonzo_> only half a degree
[09:45] <gonzo_> how many times have people seen the moon on te horison and thought it 'looked' big, taken a pic and wonder why it is still just as dot
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[10:48] <RealBorg> j #physics
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[11:27] <Vaizki> got myself a surplus inmarsat mini-m system with 50cm parabolic dish, gyros, satellite tracking and electronic compass :O
[11:28] <Vaizki> winter project: repurpose it for something fun :)
[11:28] <fsphil> oh nice
[11:31] <Vaizki> maybe mount it on a car for hab tracking? ;)
[11:32] <Vaizki> or maybe meteor m2 lrrp.. hmm
[11:33] <craag> we've often toyed with the idea of something like that for mobile tracking
[11:34] <craag> could be worth it for hab wifi maybe?
[11:36] <adamgreig> high speed hab downlink
[11:36] <adamgreig> for all that science payload data :p
[11:36] <Vaizki> :)
[11:36] <Vaizki> but it's pretty big, like 55cm wide and 70cm tall I think
[11:36] <Vaizki> the radome
[11:36] <craag> yeah... could enable some live video experiments
[11:37] <Vaizki> not something you want on the ski rack really
[11:37] <craag> (which is really the only valid use we can come up with for moar link budget)
[11:37] <Vaizki> maybe if I get my hexacopter FPV setup ever done, I could use it to track the copter for the video link
[11:38] <craag> yep, ideal :)
[11:40] <Vaizki> radome was in a sealed box from service center in NL..
[11:40] <Vaizki> so should be good to go
[11:41] <Vaizki> apparently there is a front-end box inside the radome with just a ribbon cable + TNC to the tracking servos, compass and dish
[11:42] <Vaizki> and wife will kill me when she sees the box :)
[11:43] <adamgreig> final countdown for HTV-5 http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/08/19/htv-5-mission-status-center/
[11:43] <adamgreig> few minutes to go
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KZN-HAB1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KZN-HAB1
[11:44] <mattbrejza> japan supplies the iss? :/
[11:45] <Vaizki> well jaxa is a partner in the iss...
[11:45] <adamgreig> JAXA is one of the ISS part... yea
[11:46] <adamgreig> 5min
[11:46] <ibanezmatt13> That's a nice rocket
[11:46] <mattbrejza> i didnt realise they resupplied though
[11:46] <adamgreig> i enjoy the mitsubishi heavy industries logo
[11:46] <adamgreig> what a company
[11:47] <adamgreig> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Heavy_Industries
[11:47] <mattbrejza> heh those little solid boosters are cute
[11:47] <ibanezmatt13> They are :)
[11:47] <mattbrejza> look like tampons...
[11:48] <Vaizki> well it IS a supply mission...
[11:49] <mattbrejza> heh
[11:50] <adamgreig> 14 planet labs doves going up on this
[11:50] <Vaizki> guano supplies are low?
[11:51] <mattbrejza> that thing is pretty speedy
[11:51] <mattbrejza> wasnt hanging around
[11:53] <Vaizki> do they recover SRBs?
[11:57] <Vaizki> Pressurised cargo include potable water (600 liter), food, crew commodities, system components, and science experiment equipments. System components include: UPA Fluids Control and Pump Assembly (FCPA), WPA Multifiltration Beds (WFB), a galley rack to be placed in Unity, and Simplified Aid for EVA Rescue (SAFER). Science experiment equipments include Mouse Habitat Unit (MHU), Electrostatic Levitation Furnace (ELF), Multi-Purpose Small Payload Rack
[11:57] <Vaizki> (MSPR-2), Exposed Experiment Handrail Attachment Mechanism (ExHAM 2), NanoRacks External Platform (NREP), and CubeSats (SERPENS (pt), S-CUBE, fourteen Flock-2b, AAUSAT5, and GOMX-3).
[11:57] <Vaizki> Unpressurised cargo consists of Calorimetric Electron Telescope (CALET).
[11:57] <Vaizki> eeeps sorry
[12:01] <craag> lots of shiney hardware
[12:03] <Vaizki> I wonder how much of the water they use on the ISS is recovered.. probably 90% or so?
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[12:31] <fsphil> about that, 93% according to random google result
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[13:52] <Vaizki> when low on disk space, check for IQ recordings you made of faraway HABs that didn't quite decode..
[13:53] <Vaizki> best regards mr. 37 GB free now
[13:58] <Laurenceb> http://www.nature.com/news/superconductivity-record-sparks-wave-of-follow-up-physics-1.18191
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[15:00] <SpeedEvil> yay
[15:01] <SpeedEvil> A million bar though
[15:01] <SpeedEvil> Even a thousand bar would be sort-of-usable.
[15:01] <SpeedEvil> Million - not so much
[15:03] <SpeedEvil> http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/18/forget-rockets-this-space-elevator-could-launch-you-into-orbit.html - also - bullshit
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[16:15] <Laurenceb> lol what
[16:15] <Laurenceb> an inflatable space tower wouldnt even get you to 100km easily
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> yes
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> they say 20
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> they've kinda devalued 'space'
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> the 'orbit' part to be fair is entirly the news outlets fault
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[16:49] <Laurenceb> anyone here used ffmpeg?
[16:49] <Laurenceb> ffmpeg -i GOPR0080.MP4 -ss 0:0:9 -r 480 -f image2 image%d.jpg
[16:49] <Laurenceb> whats wrong with that?
[16:50] <Laurenceb> I'm getting no output
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> Sorry - not familiar enough
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> there is a #ffmpeg IIRC
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[16:53] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> evening
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[17:15] <fsphil> good evening fine folks of #ha
[17:19] <Laurenceb> fsphil: have you ever used imagemagik to create an animated gif?
[17:19] <Laurenceb> i cant seem to get the first frame correct
[17:20] <SpeedEvil> I've used gifasm
[17:21] <Laurenceb> hmm
[17:21] <Laurenceb> I could renumber my frame images
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[17:24] <fsphil> been a while, I give up and used something else which I can't remember
[17:24] <fsphil> imagemagick kept producing corrupt gifs
[17:25] <Laurenceb> heh
[17:25] <Laurenceb> it seems to be setting the starting frame in the middle
[17:25] <Laurenceb> or maybe the gif is currupt...
[17:26] <Laurenceb> I'll start again
[17:26] <Laurenceb> delete everything
[17:27] <fsphil> ah, I did use it for the animated ssdv thing: convert -delay 20 -loop 0 output-*.jpeg animation.gif
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[17:28] <Joekul> Hello!
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[17:29] <Laurenceb> yeah the gif is corrupt
[17:29] <Joekul> Someone is testing a payload very near my QTH, Zurich Kantonschule Nord
[17:29] <Laurenceb> how annoying
[17:30] <Joekul> I would love to propose my help for the tracking
[17:30] <colin1> Hi everyone! My radiometrix_GPS_SD programme now has a pressure-temperature-altitude script. I did a line-by-line excersise - as far as my skills allowed - and it works. When compiling, I get the message: 'low on memory - stability problems might happen. I took out all the Serial Print scripts, but still get the same message. How can I make some memory savings without losing functionshttp://pastebin.com/xjaErb19
[17:31] <Joekul> Any suggestion on how I could get in touch with thast person, the launcher of KZN-HAB1?
[17:32] <daveake> colinl You have several libraries in there and the SD one in particular uses a lot of memory
[17:32] <fsphil> you can save a bit by putting static arrays and strings into PROGMEM, but looking through the code you're not going to save that much
[17:34] <colin1> Presumably I need the libraries?? Don't know!!
[17:37] <colin1> In practice, to what extent might stability problems limit the effectiveness of a flight - how much flexibility is there in the system? This may seem like a very basic question - but I am a very basic programmer.
[17:41] <daveake> Well you must know which libraries you need .... e.g. if you're doing SD things then you need the SD library, etc.
[17:42] <daveake> Might be worth looking for a low-memory SD library (there is one iirc)
[17:42] <daveake> Though it will probably have reduced functionality and some limitations
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[17:43] <mattbrejza> tiny fatfs
[17:43] <mattbrejza> oe whatever its called
[17:43] <colin1> daveake, I will look this out and give it a try.
[17:51] <eroomde> you don't need a library to use an sd card minimally
[17:51] <eroomde> you can just treat it as addresseable memory
[17:53] <mattbrejza> can you get avrsize to show you where the ram usage is?
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[18:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WMSI_HAB - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WMSI_HAB
[18:12] <colin1> checking out 'addressable memory' - see if it works. thanks.
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[18:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-9
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[19:33] <DL7AD> ping Upu
[19:33] <Upu> pong Sven
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[20:02] <fl_0> daveake: what is been done with the I2C GPIOs towards the uBlox module?
[20:02] <fl_0> I succesfully tested the GPIOs on the assumend dead RPi A+
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[20:03] <fl_0> And I can switch the two LEDs on the PitS Board on and off maually using wiringPi
[20:03] <daveake> Just a software I2C program
[20:03] <fl_0> also the serial port to GPS obviously works, i can see the GPS sentences coming in
[20:03] <daveake> well the pits s/w uses the wiringpi lib to talk to the leds
[20:04] <daveake> so it used to work then usb killed it?
[20:04] <fl_0> it worked before
[20:04] <fl_0> and afterwards none of the LEDs ever lit
[20:04] <fl_0> so i thgought it is dead
[20:04] <daveake> reason I ask is that the pits s/w checks the pi version
[20:05] <daveake> so it knows if it's the old pits card or the pits+ card
[20:05] <daveake> and once in a while a new board comes out and doesn't get detected
[20:05] <fl_0> okay
[20:05] <fl_0> but as it worked before ...
[20:05] <fl_0> that should not be the problem I guess :)
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[20:06] <daveake> nope
[20:06] <fl_0> is it safe to attach batteries while USB is connected?
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[20:06] <daveake> yeah you can hot swap
[20:06] <fl_0> okay
[20:06] <fl_0> I will put the board onto the balcony for a while
[20:06] <fl_0> and see if it gets a GPS fix
[20:07] <fl_0> as I cannot find an error on the board
[20:07] <fl_0> tested everything except the I2C
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[20:20] <fl_0> nothing working
[20:20] <fl_0> Is the I2C to uBlox needed for operation?
[20:21] <fl_0> do not have a monitor on the balcony to see if there is valid GPS data on the UART :(
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[21:00] <russss> http://deepspace.jpl.nasa.gov/dsn/images/realtime/latestC3.jpg
[21:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> would look good in my backyard :-)
[21:07] <OZ7EMA> i ordered one as well :D
[21:09] <SM0ULC> you can say you need it for 4k TV ;)
[21:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> or wifi :-)
[21:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i bet they dont know what EIRP is anyway
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[21:12] <lz1dev> ask your neighbour if he wants wifi
[21:12] <lz1dev> and just point the thing at his house
[21:13] <fsphil> ask him what time he wants dinner cooked at
[21:13] <fsphil> and everything else in the immediate area
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[21:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hehe yeah
[21:15] <russss> it has 128dBm EIRP at 2GHz
[21:16] <russss> which is, er, 6.3GW
[21:18] <russss> and 140dBm at 7GHz
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[21:20] <russss> here's the datasheet
[21:20] <russss> http://deepspace.jpl.nasa.gov/dsndocs/810-005/104/104H.pdf
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[21:21] <russss> 140dBm is a cool 100GW EIRP
[21:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah i dont want to stand in front of that thing
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[22:16] <RealBorg> OZ1SKY_Brian, depends on the frequency
[22:23] <Laurenceb__> ooh 68 attendees
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> very good news
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[22:24] <Vaizki> unfortunately I am not one of them...
[22:24] <Vaizki> could not convince wife & parents in law to vacation in London ;)
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> :-/
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> ah
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> its very expensive
[22:24] <Laurenceb__> luckily I can get the train
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[22:28] <Professor> howdy all
[22:28] <Professor> later all
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[22:28] <Laurenceb__> lulwut
[22:29] <Laurenceb__> nerdhouse.org
[22:29] <Laurenceb__> ok
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[22:48] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-49 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-49
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[22:53] <Laurenceb__> !whereis PS-49
[22:53] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb__: 03PS-49 was over 03South Pacific Ocean 10(-28.5,-97) at 039000 meters about 032 hours ago
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[22:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-A1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-A1
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[23:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ARY1T - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ARY1T
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-A2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-A2
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