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[07:24] <SM0ULC> morrn
[07:27] <fsphil> it certainly is
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[08:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LZ100AJ after 0315 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LZ100AJ
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[09:17] <chimpusmaximus> Just a heads up that pcworld/currys had EE 6GB data sims for £5.99. Was a few days ago so stock may have gone but useful for the odd HAB chase etc. http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/phones-broadband-and-sat-nav/broadband/mobile-broadband/ee-pay-as-you-go-combi-sim-21499087-pdt.html?intcmpid=display~RR
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[09:36] <daveake> 60 days ... that's pretty good
[09:37] <daveake> I'm currently working through 100GB/30 days on an EE sim for £10
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> quite tempting!
[09:37] <daveake> Uploaded 60GB for a customer earlier this week lol
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Ouch!
[09:37] <daveake> On ADSL I'd still be uploading :/
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Still he was paying I suspect ;-)
[09:37] <daveake> He is, but £10 meh
[09:38] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Your buisness model ?
[09:38] <daveake> That offer is for the first 2 months on PAYG
[09:38] <daveake> After which, bin the card and get another
[09:38] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Thats what I've been doing for the last few years for all my mobile needs (not that much)
[09:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> keep a selection between 3 and EE these days
[09:39] <daveake> FTTC/ADSL here are poor, but we have LOS to Ross where EE have a 4G tower
[09:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Ah not so bad then
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[09:57] <michal_f_afk> I need to get some kind of handheld yagi for payload recovery... what would you recommend ?
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[09:57] <michal_f_afk> I could try build my own if you know some good schematics
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[09:57] <daveake> Something small
[09:58] <daveake> There are designs on the web if you can be bothered to make one (I can't but YMMV)
[09:58] <michal_f> I though it can be fun to build one
[09:58] <daveake> A large yagi is a pain both to get in the car and to carry over fields and gates and through ditches
[09:59] <daveake> For small values of fun, sure :p
[09:59] <daveake> Find a design for a 5-element; it'll be fine
[09:59] <michal_f> daveake, can you recommend any particular design/ web link ?
[09:59] <michal_f> ok
[09:59] <daveake> Nope never made one
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[10:00] <daveake> I have one of these http://www.moonraker.eu/zl7-70-70cm-7-element-special-yagi-antenna
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[10:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5ZPL - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5ZPL
[10:01] <michal_f> can it be used as handheld ?
[10:03] <daveake> of course
[10:03] <michal_f> nice, thanks
[10:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://widerimage.co.uk/docs/Mountain_Yagi_434_4Element.pdf
[10:06] <daveake> pretty simple
[10:07] <michal_f> indeed
[10:07] <daveake> I've seen one made from a flexible steel rule
[10:08] <daveake> For sotrage shove inside a cardbord tube
[10:08] <daveake> er storage ^
[10:08] <michal_f> afaik using metal boom changes length of elements ?
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[10:08] <daveake> everything changes everything
[10:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> o not really unless its very large width
[10:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> One thing that can help is having the driven element removable so you can use it on its own, as then the Null when end to the Tx is much sharper and deeper which can help the final location a lot
[10:10] <SM0ULC> we have yagi/gp made with stranded wire at work. very good for outdoor walking in the woods.
[10:11] <michal_f> nice tip Geoff-G8DHE
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[10:20] <SM0ULC> http://www.ebay.com/itm/350-500-MHz-70cm-Band-Richtantenne-9dBi-YAGI-ABY7LB-/121720755268?hash=item1c571f5444
[10:20] <SM0ULC> pretty cheap and small enough to be nicely portable
[10:25] <michal_f> looks like directors are not exactly parallel to each other ? :)
[10:27] <michal_f> I think I'll build that one 4 element Geoff-G8DHE pointed to me
[10:28] <craag> It's visually pleasing for the directors to be parallel, but really makes near-zero difference in performance.
[10:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its quick and simple, if your using an SDR you could build the dongle onto the driven element itself and then clip it to the boom, to make it removable.
[10:35] <michal_f> I haven't decided yet what radio to take to car. Currently I have airspy+preamp and cheap RTL dongle
[10:35] <michal_f> One of theese will be my base station
[10:35] <michal_f> I was thinking of renting a regular radio for a weekend
[10:36] <craag> if you can rent a handheld wideband ssb rx for the weekend, they're quite convenient to chase with.
[10:36] <daveake> Or, buy one on ebay then sell it when your're done
[10:37] <craag> ^^ genius
[10:37] <daveake> I think I've made a profit on each of my sold scanners
[10:37] <michal_f> they are quiet pricey, aren't they ?
[10:37] <daveake> Prices aren't going down
[10:38] <daveake> So buy a used scanner and then sell it, for pretty much what you paid
[10:38] <michal_f> seems like a good option daveake
[10:39] <daveake> Nobody makes a cheap scanner with SSB anymore, so used market is quite bouyant
[10:51] <michal_f> I found one, AOR1500 for ~150$
[10:51] <michal_f> are you familiar with that model or brand ?
[10:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD5ZPL-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD5ZPL-11
[10:55] <daveake> Not seen that model before
[10:56] <daveake> AOR is a good brand though and that model appears to be able to do the job http://www.rigpix.com/aor/aor_ar1500.htm
[10:58] <Laurenceb_> anyone here used inkscape?
[10:58] <Laurenceb_> I'm trying to make a path horizontal... and failing epically
[10:59] <mattbrejza> i ditched inkscape as it was annoying me too much
[11:00] <qyx_> Laurenceb_: node edit, select nodes to align, edit > align and distribute
[11:00] <Laurenceb_> aha
[11:00] <Laurenceb_> thanks
[11:01] <Laurenceb_> mattbrejza: heh yeah its very annoying
[11:01] <qyx_> it's okay
[11:01] <Laurenceb_> what is it with opensource and horrible guis
[11:01] <Laurenceb_> inkscape is more confusing the gimp
[11:01] <Laurenceb_> didnt think that was possible
[11:01] <adamgreig> inkscape is really not that bad imo
[11:01] <mattbrejza> i prefer ipe for drawing block diagrams and stuff like that
[11:02] <Laurenceb_> I use dia for basic stuff
[11:02] <adamgreig> dia makes me sad
[11:02] <qyx_> and dia is not horrible?
[11:02] <adamgreig> dia is horrific
[11:02] <adamgreig> inkscape is no better for doing the sorts of diagrams dia is designed for though
[11:02] <Laurenceb_> dia is simple and easy, for simple and easy stuff
[11:03] <mattbrejza> ipe is pretty basic too, not sure why i didnt like dia, it seems familar
[11:03] <mattbrejza> ipe does all the latex fonts and maths too
[11:03] <Laurenceb_> ah nice
[11:04] <mattbrejza> and saves directly to pdfs
[11:04] <adamgreig> ipe is basically just a gui to make tikz?
[11:04] <mattbrejza> probably
[11:04] <adamgreig> oh maybe not quite
[11:04] <adamgreig> unclear
[11:05] <mattbrejza> inkscapes grid really annoyed me as it changes as you zoom
[11:05] <adamgreig> yea
[11:05] <mattbrejza> and it keeps wanting to snap to edges of lines rather than the centre point
[11:05] <mattbrejza> probably fine if you wanted to design a logo or somethig like that
[11:06] <adamgreig> it's good for vector graphics, and not for diagrams
[11:06] <adamgreig> for technical drawing I use qcad
[11:06] <adamgreig> having said that I did all the diagrams for my MEng thesis in inkscape and that worked pretty well
[11:06] <adamgreig> so idk
[11:06] <adamgreig> tools r hard
[11:07] <adamgreig> ipe doesn't actually have anything to do with tikz
[11:07] <mattbrejza> ive been known to use the eagle pcb editor for drawing block diagrams before
[11:07] <adamgreig> lol gnarly
[11:07] <mattbrejza> all i wanted was the ability to place lines on a grid
[11:07] <Laurenceb_> dia can do that
[11:08] <adamgreig> I want to find some good software to draw like wiring schematics
[11:08] <adamgreig> to show all the wiring in this avionics bay
[11:08] <adamgreig> but instead I end up with either Dia: https://agg.io/u/wiring.svg
[11:08] <adamgreig> or gimp (and gcse level diagrams): https://agg.io/u/nosecone-wiring.png
[11:09] <adamgreig> I want to nicely annotate labels and connections and show the width of busses and some pictures in the nodes would be nice and etc
[11:09] <mattbrejza> i think the gimp one is better..
[11:09] <adamgreig> dia can probably do this but it's a horrid pain
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[11:09] <adamgreig> mattbrejza: same...
[11:09] <adamgreig> starting to think of using tikz or dot or something just so it can be specified as text, lol
[11:09] <mcbcurator> morning all. daveake, upu, PITS is performing like a champ
[11:09] <daveake> ofc :p
[11:09] <qyx_> wat, it is nicely doable in inkscape
[11:10] <mcbcurator> paracord broke and dropped the ham repeater we were flying. :P
[11:10] <mcbcurator> so balloon is 160g light for the gas load
[11:10] <daveake> oh you're flying?
[11:10] <daveake> ouch
[11:10] <mcbcurator> yeah, flying right now
[11:10] <mcbcurator> kd5zpl
[11:10] <adamgreig> qyx_: it is! but it seems like inkscape makes me go out of my way to do things I want to do
[11:10] <qyx_> like this http://qyx.krtko.org/projects/umeshfw/img/system_components.png
[11:11] <daveake> Ah yes I see kd5zpl-11 :/
[11:11] <adamgreig> lol that is a nice diagram
[11:11] <adamgreig> what did you use to align the boxes and make them not the same size but all multiples of some common unit?
[11:11] <adamgreig> do you do that semi/mostly manually, or..?
[11:11] <qyx_> align&distribute and ctrl key
[11:11] <mcbcurator> habhub tracker rate is vertical then horizontal, yes?
[11:12] <daveake> Yes it says just below - V/H
[11:12] <adamgreig> hmm
[11:12] <adamgreig> ok
[11:12] <adamgreig> perhaps I will just use inkscape
[11:12] <daveake> 39.9km/h ascent would be ... impressive
[11:12] <mattbrejza> what do you use for laser cutting?
[11:12] <adamgreig> qcad mostly
[11:12] <adamgreig> for stencils, kicad outputs DXF directly
[11:12] <qyx_> draftsight here
[11:13] <mattbrejza> ive been using coraldraw
[11:13] <adamgreig> lol
[11:13] <adamgreig> use qcad it's very very nice for doing technical drawings
[11:13] <mcbcurator> looks like we will land in farms and not ranches! hooray!
[11:13] <mattbrejza> it would be nice if there was software that automatically accounted for the laser dot width and stuff like that
[11:13] <adamgreig> hmm
[11:13] <adamgreig> so I feel you want something like qcad to do the initial drawing
[11:14] <adamgreig> and then the software that controls the laser should be able to do things like uniting lines, cut route optimsation, and offsets for laser dot width
[11:14] <mattbrejza> tell it that two pieces are meant to slot together and itll adjust tolerances accordingly
[11:14] <adamgreig> same as the 3d mill stuff
[11:14] <adamgreig> I give it my drawing, and the software lets me define tool paths for inside/outside cuts, accounts for tool radius, etc
[11:14] <mattbrejza> oh
[11:14] <mattbrejza> that sounds much better
[11:14] <adamgreig> rather than having your drawing software also have to handle all the weirdness of different machines
[11:14] <Laurenceb_> I guess it depends what you are drawing
[11:15] <adamgreig> this way the same dxf is good for laser cutting and 3d milling and waterjetting etc
[11:15] <adamgreig> (a chain I find myself going down surprisingly often)
[11:15] <Laurenceb_> qyx_ diagram looks nice, but isnt very suitable for e.g. journal articles
[11:15] <adamgreig> laser cutters nice for very cheap plastic prototypes, 3d mill to check annoying shapes I can't make out of plastic, and then waterjets for the real deal
[11:15] <adamgreig> mmm waterjets
[11:15] <qyx_> mhm, the laser/watercutter service handles those things
[11:15] <qyx_> at least here
[11:16] <adamgreig> Laurenceb_: tikz for journals tho
[11:16] <adamgreig> standard
[11:16] <qyx_> i just submit a dwg/dxf of what i want and they offset it automatically
[11:16] <Laurenceb_> yes
[11:16] <adamgreig> qyx_: that sounds nice
[11:16] <adamgreig> the waterjet is like that because I can't use it
[11:16] <adamgreig> but the laser stuff, I'm the operator too
[11:16] <adamgreig> luckily the software is not too bad
[11:17] <adamgreig> qyx_: you use libopencm3 underneath chibios rather than the chibios HAL?
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[11:19] <mattbrejza> adamgreig: do you have the free version of qcad?
[11:19] <adamgreig> yes no kindof
[11:19] <adamgreig> I bought qcad a while ago
[11:19] <adamgreig> but you only get updates for so long
[11:19] <adamgreig> so now I use free latest qcad instead
[11:19] <adamgreig> when I bought it, the paid for version was much better, but these days I don't need any of those features really
[11:19] <qyx_> adamgreig: yes.. i also replaced chibios with freertos recently
[11:19] <adamgreig> you can also get librecad which is a fork of the free version of qcad
[11:19] <mattbrejza> ah
[11:19] <adamgreig> and implements a few of the features from the pro version iirc
[11:19] <adamgreig> but the free qcad is great/fine for most of the sorts of drawings I need atm
[11:20] <adamgreig> qyx_: interesting, why?
[11:20] <adamgreig> why on both counts I guess, though I'm more interested in the swap to freertos
[11:21] <qyx_> adamgreig: freertos is more lightweight (just the scheduler), better documented and it is not mostly one-man-show
[11:21] <adamgreig> the one-man-show is my least favourite part of chibios, for sure
[11:21] <qyx_> supports cortex MPU and has a certified branch
[11:21] <adamgreig> interested that it's more lightweight
[11:22] <adamgreig> chibios 3 has just the scheduler available separate to the hal and bits
[11:22] <adamgreig> mpu support is nice
[11:23] <adamgreig> I think I felt like freertos was more overbearing and complicated when I was comparing them originally so went with chibios for most things
[11:23] <adamgreig> but perhaps I should check it out again
[11:23] <qyx_> and i use libopencm3 because chibios hal is unusable for more complex projects
[11:23] <qyx_> it is too static
[11:24] <qyx_> much compile-time conffiguration
[11:24] <fsphil> mcbcurator's sunrise flight is currently returning ssdv images
[11:24] <qyx_> macro hell
[11:24] <fsphil> mostly dark atm
[11:25] <adamgreig> mmm
[11:25] <adamgreig> trying to write a chibios app mostly in rust has revealed the macro hell
[11:25] <adamgreig> FFI does not cope well with macros
[11:26] <qyx_> mhm rust
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[11:29] <adamgreig> how is freertos? i remember it feeling a bit more Enterprise which put me off a bit
[11:33] <qyx_> yes exactly... including their '90 website, zip sources and "buy pdf manual"
[11:34] <adamgreig> yea..
[11:34] <adamgreig> but I did actually download the source and build it and still had a bit of that feeling
[11:34] <adamgreig> I kind of want the libopencm3 of RTOSs
[11:34] <adamgreig> rather than the ST Std Peripheral Library of RTOSs
[11:34] <qyx_> lol
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[13:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BARC - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BARC
[13:19] <fsphil> whoa
[13:19] <fsphil> checksums
[13:19] <daveake> pits
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !dial BARC
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE_> thought not
[13:20] <daveake> not a flight
[13:20] <daveake> well hope not as it was only switched on for the first time this morning
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE_> :)
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[13:27] <daveake> Last sentence from KD5ZPL down at 119m .. top quality chasing there
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[13:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Glad he lost the repeater it would have come down even faster otherwise!
[13:31] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[13:32] <daveake> hah
[13:32] <daveake> Close to a track
[13:32] <daveake> and trees
[13:33] <lz1dev> DL7AD: do you have backlog on your tracker?
[13:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> You can see the landing spot in the last image 95 as well!
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/KD5ZPL_20150812/index.php?ind=2
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://ssdv.habhub.org/images/2015-08-12--13-16-29-KD5ZPL-2E10.jpeg?u=55
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[13:51] <DL7AD> lz1dev: no
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[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF6WBV_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KF6WBV_chase
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[14:10] <lz1dev> DL7AD: should be fixed now
[14:10] <DL7AD> lz1dev: thanks :)
[14:10] <lz1dev> your GPS unit also seems to have lost signal
[14:11] <lz1dev> and was sending old position and incorrect timestamp at some point
[14:11] <lz1dev> 14:56:09 < lz1dev> 2015-08-12 03:40:11 BST: DL7AD-12>APECAN,WIDE1-1,qAR,OH5XB:/024004h5652.61N/02314.30EO036/017/A=029425 2848mVb 1281mVs -20C 32263Pa SATS00 GPS loss 03
[14:11] <lz1dev> 14:56:13 < lz1dev> 2015-08-12 03:41:13 BST: DL7AD-12>APECAN,WIDE1-1,qAR,OH5XB:/173521h5652.61N/02314.30EO036/017/A=029425 2801mVb 1102mVs -19C 32163Pa SATS00 GPS loss 04
[14:11] <DL7AD> lz1dev: yeah at night there are problems
[14:11] <DL7AD> lz1dev: because we dont use uBlox but cBlox modules
[14:12] <DL7AD> ^^
[14:12] <lz1dev> yeah but look at the timestamp
[14:12] <lz1dev> its 02:40
[14:12] <lz1dev> a minute after its 17:35
[14:12] <lz1dev> do you reset the gps occasionally?
[14:13] <DL7AD> lz1dev: yes after GPS loss 5
[14:13] <DL7AD> and then it begins again at gps loss 1
[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> Battery voltages and temperature changed a lot in 1 minute as well ?
[14:14] <lz1dev> 2015-08-12 03:41:26 BST: DL7AD-12>APECAN,WIDE1-1,qAR,OH5RDF:/173532h5652.61N/02314.30EO036/017/A=029425 2792mVb 964mVs -19C 29878Pa SATS00 GPS loss 05
[14:14] <lz1dev> 2015-08-12 03:41:47 BST: DL7AD-12>APECAN,ES2ADF-4,WIDE1*,qAR,ES2MA-2:/173543h5652.61N/02314.30EO036/017/A=029425 2814mVb 875mVs -19C 32143Pa SATS00 GPS loss 01
[14:14] <lz1dev> 2015-08-12 03:42:27 BST: DL7AD-12>APECAN,WIDE1-1,qAR,OH5RDF:/024224h5652.61N/02314.30EO036/017/A=029425 2902mVb 1156mVs -19C 32107Pa SATS00 GPS loss 02
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[14:15] <DL7AD> strange.... cant explain what happened
[14:16] <lz1dev> maybe a software bug?
[14:16] <DL7AD> lz1dev: i recently fixed that:
[14:16] <DL7AD> nsprintf(temp, 7, "%02d%02d%02d", lastFix.time.hour, lastFix.time.minute, lastFix.time.second);
[14:16] <DL7AD> ax25_send_string(temp); // 170915 = 17h:09m:15s zulu (not allowed in Status Reports)
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RPF-PITS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RPF-PITS
[14:23] <adamgreig> qyx_: ok, I used inkscape, I'm a happy camper https://agg.io/u/m2-wiring.pdf
[14:25] <lz1dev> http://i.imgur.com/EG679q2.gif
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[14:28] <lz1dev> 3
[14:28] <lz1dev> 2
[14:28] <lz1dev> 1
[14:28] <lz1dev> :{
[14:30] <lz1dev> 3
[14:30] <lz1dev> 2
[14:30] <lz1dev> 1
[14:30] <lz1dev> :{{
[14:31] <Laurenceb_> any libre office users here?
[14:31] <Oddstr13> cat detected
[14:31] <Laurenceb_> I'm trying to control the width of inserted images
[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL7AD-12 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-12
[14:31] <Laurenceb_> need them to go with the column width with no distortion
[14:31] <Laurenceb_> i.e. keep aspect ratio
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[15:11] <Ian_> Laurenceab_ with OpenLibre, resizing images, hold down the shift key while dragging the corner. In inkscape it's the ctrl_key (Love standardisation)
[15:11] <Laurenceb_> ok
[15:11] <Laurenceb_> I managed it with picture properties
[15:11] <Ian_> OK. Main thing is that you got it done :)
[15:11] <Laurenceb_> heh
[15:12] <Laurenceb_> now i "just" need to add page number to header
[15:12] <Laurenceb_> should have used latex :-/ so much simpler
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[16:23] <mcbcurator> recovered the balloon. it was a hike through a ranch. the balloon landed in a nasty thorn tree
[16:25] <mcbcurator> watched it come down, but it took us over an hour to actually hike to the spot
[16:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> The last image showed where it was going to land!
[16:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/KD5ZPL_20150812/index.php?ind=2
[16:28] <mcbcurator> yes indeed
[16:28] <mcbcurator> A bull was none too happy to see us.
[16:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[16:30] <mcbcurator> I wish that ham repeater hadn't fallen off. I can't imagine how it did - bowlines with locking half-hitches tied to paracord.
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[16:33] <adamgreig> I would suspect something other than the knot then
[16:33] <adamgreig> abrasion, cold induced failure, fatigue somewhere else, etc
[16:34] <mcbcurator> it was right on liftoff. Jerked hard and the repeater fell back to the parking lot.
[16:34] <adamgreig> oh lol
[16:34] <mcbcurator> oh well.
[16:34] <adamgreig> what part failed?
[16:34] <adamgreig> was it the knots lol
[16:35] <mcbcurator> I need to look at the repeater and see what failed. The knots shouldn't have failed... but neither should the paracord. Should have taken a wrap of tape around all the knots. I'll do that next time.
[16:36] <qyx_> Laurenceb_: insert header, insert field > page number
[16:37] <Laurenceb_> yeah got it now thanks
[16:37] <Laurenceb_> but this is why i use latex rather than word processing
[16:37] <Laurenceb_> its just so annoying
[16:37] <qyx_> both have some pros/cons
[16:37] <mcbcurator> the balloon was about 160 grams light because of that, which might explain how it overshot town instead of landing east of the city in the nice soft sod fields. I was really hoping to avoid the river bottomland with all the thorns and cattle.
[16:38] <qyx_> adamgreig: nice
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[17:18] <habalt> good afternoon... did anybody already launched a balloon in a cloudy day? I believe it is ok to do it provided that its not going to pass through heavy clouds such as CB and some clouds composed essentially by ice crystals?
[17:19] <mcbcurator> I just launched a balloon on a cloudy day this morning. :)
[17:19] <mcbcurator> oh, another datapoint - our SPOT Trace backup tracker worked perfectly again, despite landing in foliage on its side.
[17:20] <mattbrejza> did it tell you how high it got? ;)
[17:20] <mcbcurator> No. :P
[17:21] <habalt> what kind of balloon was that? :)
[17:22] <mattbrejza> generally noone launches into big clouds because noone likes to get wet as they fill
[17:23] <mcbcurator> Yeah, these were pretty anemic clouds
[17:23] <mcbcurator> Kaymont 1200
[17:23] <habalt> I was just curious to know if for the balloon point of view it constitutes a limitation
[17:25] <SpeedEvil> habalt: light cloud isn't an issue. Heavy cloud may have signifcant internal currents and dangerous preciptiation
[17:26] <mcbcurator> looks like SPOT picked us back up on the descent at 20000 meters
[17:26] <habalt> thanks for the clarification SpeedEvil
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[17:34] <Laurenceb_> http://hackaday.com/2015/08/12/amazon-dash-hack-it-to-run-your-own-code/
[17:34] <Laurenceb_> stm32 dev board
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[18:08] <michemto> Hi guys :)
[18:08] <michemto> What's going on?!
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[19:01] <michemto> Full flight video with data from StratosChems payload is here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUk3po8TcA
[19:01] Nick change: michal_f -> michal_f_AFK
[19:01] <michemto> Feel free to share anywhere :)
[19:01] <michal_f_AFK> thx
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[19:03] <michal_f> how did you superimpose telemetry data onto video? this was done post flight ?
[19:06] <michal_f> I'm thinking if I can do similar thing with raspberry pi camera
[19:06] <michal_f> include some text in stream
[19:09] <daveake> I hacked ffmpeg on the Pi to add it live
[19:09] <michal_f> daveake, it seems you've done it all already :]
[19:09] <daveake> that was for video
[19:09] <michemto> It was done later, yes... With telemetry data syncing and dashware :)
[19:09] <daveake> if you want to add it to SSDV then imagemagick is the tool
[19:10] <michal_f> I have it done for ssdv, but I'm still thinking how to acquire pphotos.
[19:10] <michal_f> I was thinking of extracting it from h264 stream to have both video and in-flight ssdv
[19:11] <michemto> Anyway, I would be glad if you could share it somewhere :) and here goes the link again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUk3po8TcA
[19:12] <michal_f> what is this think in bottle ?
[19:13] <michal_f> thing*
[19:14] <michal_f> daveake, is it possible to somehow stream h264 from raspivid to ffmpeg then to file ?
[19:14] <michal_f> how much effort this is ?
[19:18] <daveake> Just google for "raspivid ffmpeg" lots of examples
[19:20] <michal_f> ok, thx
[19:24] <michemto> @michal_f H2O2 and KI + some water from the rain and clouds... H2O2 wants to be H2O so it gives away O... And that Oxygen will be used to blow bubbles :)
[19:37] <michal_f> it would be more effect if it blow bottle :)
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[20:28] <fsphil> you can also record telemetry in the h264 video stream, add the overlay later
[20:28] <fsphil> the raw h264 stream is just a series of packets
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[21:52] <michal_f> ok, payload in refrigerator.... among meats
[21:53] <michal_f> I can still decode signal
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[22:02] <fsphil> cool
[22:02] <fsphil> (sorry)
[22:03] <michal_f> too bad it is dark in there, no interesting food photos received
[22:03] <Ian_> Solid signal obviously. Shroedingers cat and is it really dark?
[22:05] <Laurenceb_> wow this is useful http://www.cipa.org.uk/pages/advice-clinics
[22:06] <fsphil> anyone out meteor watching? too cloudy here
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> I'll look in a bit...
[22:06] <Laurenceb_> <- lazy
[22:07] <michal_f> too much light pollution in my area
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[22:10] <michal_f> the signal drifts obviously... is there any method to auto adjust SDR to compensate for it ?
[22:11] <michal_f> I use SDRSharp
[22:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03OM3KAA-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=OM3KAA-11
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[22:41] Nick change: michal_f -> michal_f_away
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[22:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL7AD-12 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-12
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