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[01:36] <KM4FSW> I see RPT is trying again, good luck guys!
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[04:11] <VK2XGJ> Anyone printed PS-48 in the last 6 to 8 hours?
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[04:26] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KM4FSW-12 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KM4FSW-12
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[05:41] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: Intense day of #UKHASnet node construction, now for sea trials #ukhas http://t.co/i4x52BMCyE
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[09:46] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: Have fun! https://t.co/yMFbIiXf0h
[09:48] <SA6BSS> esculca: might find something here https://hackaday.io/project/270-cubex
[09:48] <esculca> tks
[09:48] <esculca> let me have a look
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[10:14] <Abdel_M0NPT> good morning all, setting up to track Bonzo, is the frequency 434.650MHz
[10:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> That is what the announcment says ;-)
[10:25] <Abdel_M0NPT> ok thank you Geoff :) new to tracking
[10:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> It will normally be within a few KHz of the nominal frequency
[10:27] <Abdel_M0NPT> ok thank you, just setting up the tracker
[10:34] <Abdel_M0NPT> Geoff, the balloon should show on the map as soon as its switched on?
[10:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> As soon as someone receives it
[10:36] <fsphil> there should be receivers at the launch site
[10:37] <fsphil> so it's likely to appear before launch
[10:37] <fsphil> hopefully
[10:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> I would have thought so ;-)
[10:37] <Abdel_M0NPT> ok thank you very much :) makes sense :)
[10:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Prediction http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/BONZO-8_20150809/
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[10:44] <PE2BZ> Good morning / afternood
[10:44] <PE2BZ> Good morning / afternooN
[10:44] <PE2BZ> DBSAT1 listening station perhaps set his position to East in stead of West
[10:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> He is a good swimmer ;-)
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[11:04] <PE2BZ> Geoff that´s nice to hear, I can´t rescue him from here ;-)
[11:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think he is trying to hitch a lift with the ferry ?
[11:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think he's actually DBCG Node here floating radios in the The Solent! https://www.ukhas.net/map
[11:09] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: #AMSAT-UK member G0NZO High Altitude Balloon talk at HAMFEST @theRSGB #hamr #Hamradio #ukhas http://t.co/aUTd7IDShn http://t.co/9CP8Pc0bX7
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[11:13] <Neil_M0CJM> Hi all
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[11:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MOD2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MOD2
[11:19] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: 434 MHz balloon launch by G0NZO is around 1pm #ukhas #amsat #hamr #hamradio @theRSGB see http://t.co/aUTd7IDShn http://t.co/CzvD8TkPyU
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[11:29] <garymortimer> is bonzo still expected?
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[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think so, last tweet he was still giving the lecture!
[11:32] <garymortimer> lunchtime lecture.....
[11:32] <garymortimer> on a sunday.... has to be in a pub
[11:33] <RealBorg> 1 broken plane + 1 broken quad = 1 working plane :)
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[11:38] <garymortimer> I'm just considering going out for a touch of FPV Realborg nothing fancy just a Bixler for a spin around the farm
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[11:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like HASnet have launched the flotilla ;-)
[11:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> of ....... 1 bouy!
[11:42] <garymortimer> Oh that's cool where are you seeing that?
[11:43] <Geoff-G8DHE> https://www.ukhas.net/map
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[11:44] <Geoff-G8DHE> Off of Hurst Castle in the Solent
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[11:49] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: Listen for the HAMFEST balloon on SSB radio or online WebSDR launch now 1:30pm @theRSGB #amsat #hamradio #hamr #ukhas http://t.co/aUTd7IDShn
[11:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> Time for a quick Lunch then AFK
[11:53] <garymortimer> Indeed
[11:53] <RealBorg> garymortimer, weather is great in vienna, no fpv but flyng a toy plane s stll better than just sittng the sun
[11:57] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL7AD-12 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-12
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[11:59] <NA9VY> Good morning/afternoon everyone. Noob here. We are launching next Saturday. How soon should I ask for flight doc approval?
[12:03] <garymortimer> ask at #habhub
[12:03] <NA9VY> Oh, thanks. I'll do that.
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[12:16] <Neil_M0CJM> Hi. Is the BONZO8 launch still going ahead?
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[12:17] <Geoff-G8DHE_> 13:30 ISH they say
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[12:18] <Neil_M0CJM> Cool
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[12:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Ve1vdm_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Ve1vdm_chase
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[12:23] <gonzo_p> BONZO8 just about to fill
[12:24] <gonzo_p> 100gm latex
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[12:24] <Herman_> !Flights
[12:24] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[12:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman_: Current flights: 03Bonzo8 10(602d)
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[12:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BONZO8 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BONZO8
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[12:27] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: G0NZO preparing 434 MHz payload. Launch around 2pm @theRSGB #amsat #ukhas #hamradio #hamr http://t.co/aUTd7IDShn http://t.co/GvNflmhfHQ
[12:27] <garymortimer> Are you going to give chase to Gonzo?
[12:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> If he does he will be chasing his own tail ?
[12:28] <Herman_> gonzo_p: i am raddy for listening
[12:29] <garymortimer> looks like it wants to see if any more star wars craft are at Greenham Common
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[12:33] <tweetBot> @MX5AKA: Use SUWS WebSDR to listen to UK #ukhas 434 MHz balloons from anywhere in the world @theRSGB #amsat #hamradio #hamr http://t.co/5uUrUKDntO
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[12:42] <tweetBot> @AmsatUK: HAMFEST balloon is launched @theRSGB #hamradio #hamr #ukhas
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[12:43] <gonzo__p> she'sup
[12:44] <garymortimer> I see that
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[12:46] <gonzo__p> not seeing it on the left sidebar?
[12:46] <Neil_M0CJM> looks like its coming my way ;-)
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[12:47] <G6SUQ_Graham> is this a 'floater' or a 'burster'?
[12:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> climb rate would suggest floater
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[12:48] <Herman-PB0AHX> gonzo__p: good luck
[12:49] <Neil_M0CJM> Thouht was supposed to be a burster
[12:49] <Neil_M0CJM> Any dial frequencies yet
[12:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its a latex but the climb rate will make it try to be a flaoter
[12:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> got it
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[12:53] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial bonzo8
[12:53] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03BONZO8 10(602d): 03434.644112 MHz, 434.644092 MHz
[12:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> interesting change in claimb rate http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/BONZO-8_20150809/index.php?ind=3
[12:55] <G6SUQ_Graham> curremt predicted landing is Elsworth!
[12:56] <garymortimer> That's precision for you
[12:56] <G6SUQ_Graham> the problem is ... Elsworth only licensed for launches, not landings!
[12:59] <Neil_M0CJM> Anyone using Windows 10 with fldigi
[13:00] <garymortimer> I will try right now had not thought about changes...
[13:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh rather temperature sensitive
[13:02] <Ron_G8FJG> shift 260ish
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[13:24] <fsphil> ooh a 100g
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[13:29] <Herman-PB0AHX> BONZO8 is a floater ??
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[13:33] <Geoff-G8DHE_> 100g latex balloon but climb rate about 1m/s so might float
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[13:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
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[14:01] <test> !commands
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[14:01] <Guest68811> !commands
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[14:05] <SA6BSS> Neil_M0CJM: dl-fldigi runs fine on win 10
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[14:07] <dutchtux> !dial bonzo8
[14:07] <SpacenearUS> 03dutchtux: Latest dials for 03BONZO8 10(602d): 03434.6458 MHz, 434.645819 MHz, 434.64508 MHz, 434.64584 MHz, 434.645656 MHz, 434.64582 MHz
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[14:12] <Herman-PB0AHX> yesssss first green from BONZO8
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[14:13] <G6SUQ_Graham> well done ... couple of Dutch in the list now
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[14:16] <MLow> sweet im actually awake for a UK launch :D
[14:17] <G6SUQ_Graham> Mlow: we were waiting for you to show up ... couldn't wait any loger, so launched
[14:18] <MLow> How sweet of you, well I promise to make my presence here more often
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[14:19] <MLow> used to lurk in here like a year ago, been saying I
[14:19] <MLow> will launch something for like 4-5 years
[14:19] <SpeedEvil> :)
[14:19] <MLow> o/ SpeedEvil
[14:29] <MLow> 1.5m/s slow for an ascent rate?
[14:30] <fsphil> I see ofcom added 915-920mhz to ir2030. not for airborne use sadly
[14:32] <fsphil> 169.4-169.475 MHz @ 500mW is though, at 1% duty
[14:32] <fsphil> could still be useful
[14:32] <SA6BSS> MLow: aiming for float
[14:33] <MLow> Ohhh
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[14:33] <MLow> Interesting, thank you SA6BSS didn't know people were doing that intentionally
[14:34] <fsphil> yea done it a few times
[14:34] <SA6BSS> of course, lot of balloons is released with that in mind
[14:34] <SA6BSS> yeah, me to
[14:35] <fsphil> managed about 24 hours
[14:35] <fsphil> bonzo8 does seemed to have speed up. may not float
[14:35] <fsphil> speeded*
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[14:36] <MLow> what is the downlink on it like?
[14:36] <MLow> seems to update very fast
[14:36] <SA6BSS> 50 baud
[14:36] <MLow> ? continuous?
[14:36] <SA6BSS> have a listen on http://websdr.suws.org.uk/
[14:36] <SA6BSS> 44.650
[14:36] <SA6BSS> 434.650
[14:37] <PE2BZ> It´s about 5 kHz lower.
[14:38] <MLow> Ah!
[14:38] <MLow> Very interesting
[14:38] <fsphil> aaaah been a while since I've heard rtty :)
[14:38] <SA6BSS> MLow: yes, continous, you can even decode with dl-fldigi if you like :)
[14:39] <MLow> the signal im getting is not very strong it seems
[14:39] <MLow> Or the tx is spinning
[14:39] <SA6BSS> it is extremly strong!
[14:40] <SA6BSS> set it on usb
[14:40] <fsphil> yea it's spinning about a bit
[14:41] <fsphil> I'm on 434646.88 USB
[14:44] <fsphil> beacon on 10368864.50 seems to have started playing a song
[14:45] <MLow> hm, what should the shift be?
[14:45] <G6SUQ_Graham> just noticed - the 'bearing' and 'distance' values are wrong for me
[14:47] <G6SUQ_Graham> the shift is 260
[14:47] <MLow> i clicked auto G6SUQ_Graham and it set to way too wide
[14:47] <G6SUQ_Graham> yes ... the shift setting is not an exact science!
[14:48] <MLow> i see hehe
[14:48] <MLow> is that due to timing limitations on uMCU or?
[14:49] <fsphil> it may change due to temperature
[14:49] <fsphil> or the resistors on the transmitter are not quite right
[14:50] <fsphil> or person setting the flight doc just got it wrong :)
[14:50] <MLow> I have gotten 1 good packet hoorah
[14:50] <MLow> most are garbage though lol
[14:50] <G6SUQ_Graham> it's all to do with slight variations in the yo-yo flange in the bifucating grommet in the uMCU - or maybe what Phil said?
[14:51] <MLow> this is very interesting stuff, i had always planned to use aprs
[14:51] <G6SUQ_Graham> airborne APRS no allowed in UK
[14:52] <murb> G6SUQ_Graham: are you sure, not even on ISM?
[14:53] <MLow> murb: i assume he means the typical aprs usage on 2m
[14:53] <murb> yeah well broken regulationry environment is broken.
[14:53] <MLow> G6SUQ_Graham: that is unfortunate, any ham allowed at all?
[14:54] <murb> MLow: use no airborne operation.
[14:54] <murb> permitted.
[14:55] <MLow> Well I guess that is one reason I am glad to not live in the UK, if the only
[14:55] <fsphil> you could do aprs on the ism bands
[14:55] <fsphil> but no point really
[14:55] <fsphil> aprs is horrible
[14:55] <MLow> right
[14:56] <fsphil> only useful feature are the existing network of igates
[14:56] <MLow> Well I will agree that it has downsides, but I think the most valuable asset in using it(here at least) is the existing coverage setup here
[14:56] <fsphil> though rtty over the uk is just as well covered these days
[14:57] <MLow> it certainly looks like it
[14:57] <MLow> I was going to say, it's pretty impressive coverage, what is the tx power?
[14:57] <fsphil> 10mw max
[14:57] <MLow> Holy moly
[14:57] <fsphil> yea that was my reaction at first too :)
[14:57] <MLow> Remarkable
[14:58] <fsphil> I've decoded flights from over 500km away
[14:58] <MLow> Are there ISM allocations in 2m band?
[14:58] <fsphil> no
[14:58] <MLow> Fooey
[14:58] <G6SUQ_Graham> Mlow: you're not in UK then?
[14:58] <fsphil> long url
[14:58] <fsphil> http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/spectrum/spectrum-policy-area/spectrum-management/research-guidelines-tech-info/interface-requirements/IR_2030-june2014.pdf
[14:59] <fsphil> there are ISM bands near the 2m amateur band
[14:59] <MLow> Can't click that in my irc client :(
[14:59] <fsphil> around 160mhz
[14:59] <MLow> G6SUQ_Graham: usa
[14:59] <fsphil> you can use APRS in the US quite well
[15:00] <MLow> Indeed, that was my original plan on paper, hasn't quite made it further than that though
[15:00] <MLow> Particularly good coverage in my corner
[15:01] <G6SUQ_Graham> Ah, okay ... USA - we've seen your balloons - equipped with car-batteries, anvils, kitchen-sinks, etc
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[15:02] <MLow> Ow, really? I mean I know not literally but I haven't seen very big ones in my research
[15:02] <fsphil> active flight over the US atm, currently over Wyoming
[15:02] <fsphil> which is a cool but difficult to spell name
[15:03] <fsphil> !whereis K6RPT-11
[15:03] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: 03K6RPT-11 is over 03Sublette County, WY, USA 10(42.3444,-110.15962) at 0315020 meters
[15:03] <MLow> The UK may as well be closer than wyoming to me lol
[15:03] <G6SUQ_Graham> Wyoming - been there, done that. Damn cold.
[15:03] <fsphil> just like home then
[15:03] <MLow> Meanwhile its nearing 90 here atm haha
[15:03] <fsphil> there is a chance this one might reach the UK
[15:04] <fsphil> I'm not sure any of K6RPT's have before
[15:04] <fsphil> interesting that he's gone solar-only
[15:04] <fsphil> there's no battery at all on there, just stops working overnight
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[15:05] <MLow> Is it an intentional float payload?
[15:05] <fsphil> yea
[15:05] <fsphil> floating at 15km
[15:05] <fsphil> which is a good altitude
[15:05] <MLow> I guess it is for weight reasons?
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[15:06] <fsphil> probably
[15:06] <G6SUQ_Graham> not much sign of a flaot at the moment! climbing all the time
[15:06] <fsphil> though the B flights all had lipos
[15:06] <fsphil> and they worked for many months
[15:06] <G6SUQ_Graham> I miss those B flights, could do with some more of those
[15:07] <fsphil> overdue a launch myself
[15:07] <MLow> what kind of balloon G6SUQ_Graham ?
[15:08] <fsphil> bonzo8 at 1.8m/s ascent
[15:08] <fsphil> it'll probably burst
[15:09] <fsphil> ooh slowing
[15:10] <gonzo_m> do we have float?
[15:10] <fsphil> nowhere near it yet
[15:10] <fsphil> but it is slowing
[15:10] <fsphil> 1.3m/s, down from 1.8
[15:11] <gonzo_m> been so busy with rally stuff. non had time to follow it
[15:11] <gonzo_m> rr
[15:11] <MLow> what kind of balloon is used for this?
[15:11] <G6SUQ_Graham> Mlow: this flight is a 100g latex
[15:11] <fsphil> speeding up again
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[15:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/BONZO-8_20150809/profile1512.JPG
[15:12] <MLow> 100g latex wow, payload must be tiny
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[15:18] <G6SUQ_Graham> MLow: one of the B series flights was under 12 grams!
[15:21] <MLow> Wow, is yours like that?
[15:21] <MLow> Btw, I am sorry that it seems to be still ascending
[15:23] <G6SUQ_Graham> this flight belongs to Gonzo, not me
[15:24] <G6SUQ_Graham> for the 'B series' of balloons do a web seacg for "Leo Bodnar Balloons"
[15:24] <MLow> Oh
[15:24] <G6SUQ_Graham> seach=>search
[15:25] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/ specifically B-64 which is 10 laps of the earth!
[15:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> full flight path here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-64_20140712/
[15:26] <gonzo_m> this may make 10 laps of the north circular
[15:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[15:30] <MLow> Holy cow, 11g with battery and solar cells
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[15:39] <garymortimer> back from doing family stuff bonzo going well, just about to pass over where his lordship buried the sports cars
[15:40] <MLow> Yours is a superior culture
[15:41] <garymortimer> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peer-faces-jail-after-admitting-pounds-45m-car-fraud-1526609.html
[15:43] <garymortimer> should it burst there, a great pub here http://www.vintageinn.co.uk/content/vintage-inn/en/restaurants/east/thecrookedchimneywelwyngarden
[15:44] <garymortimer> Its then flying over a chunk of UK space stuff http://www.space-airbusds.com/
[15:44] <G6SUQ_Graham> should it burst there it will land north of Cambridge
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[15:47] <Geoff-G8DHE_> climb rate increasing .....
[15:47] <garymortimer> not going to be a million miles away from where the first UK balloon landed on that track http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-161161-the-balloon-stone-lunardi-monument-thund
[15:48] <garymortimer> lovely windmill at cottered
[15:51] <PE2G> Afternoon. Has the blue circle setting been changed? It's showing a bigger difference with fldigi's elevation than usual here.
[15:54] <MLow> voltage going up? does it have charging capability or is that due to something else
[15:56] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I think the load changed at various points http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/BONZO8#g/battery_raw,altitude
[16:03] <MLow> Speeding up isnt it
[16:09] <MLow> Oh ya speeding up
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[16:10] <Geoff-G8DHE_> looks like its brushing the jet stream at the moment http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/BONZO8#g/altitude,_vertical_rate,_speed
[16:10] <fsphil> ah still going
[16:10] <fsphil> almost in range here
[16:11] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[16:11] <MLow> Hi
[16:14] <garymortimer> what are those 100g good for? 20k
[16:14] <MLow> It seems like at least 19.69
[16:14] <garymortimer> it might have seen the glider airfield at little gransden, quite Mlow
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[16:17] <gonzo_m> still climbing!
[16:17] <MLow> faster and faster
[16:17] <Geoff-G8DHE_> What is the payload wait ?
[16:17] <Geoff-G8DHE_> weight even!
[16:18] <gonzo_m> 44gm
[16:18] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Right so could go up a bit yet then
[16:18] <pjm_> is the height from the sonde in M or ft ?
[16:19] <garymortimer> m
[16:19] <pjm_> copying the bonzo8
[16:19] <pjm_> ok thanks
[16:19] <pjm_> thats pretty higth then 20Km
[16:19] <Geoff-G8DHE_> so maybe 24+Km
[16:20] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Which make of balloon ?
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[16:21] <garymortimer> slowing up over the ground
[16:21] <garymortimer> looking at that windmill i mentioned
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[16:25] <garymortimer> Thats jolly impressive reception from Dundee, 541km
[16:25] <MLow> blows me away that its 10mw
[16:26] <fsphil> I think the record is about 800km
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[16:28] <MLow> Was that with a yagi or something?
[16:29] <garymortimer> https://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records
[16:29] <fsphil> yea believe so
[16:29] <fsphil> https://ukhas.org.uk/general:uk_records#radio_range_10mw_50_baud
[16:30] <fsphil> I managed 663km. forgot about that
[16:30] <garymortimer> any idea of the 100g altitude record
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[16:32] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Be carefull with what is shown on the Map with WebSDR Rx its not always the correct location shown!
[16:32] <garymortimer> true
[16:38] <MLow> is there any information somewhere to read about the payload on this launch?
[16:38] <MLow> I'm still researching for when I launch something
[16:39] <craag> Good to see so many back on the websdr :)
[16:40] <MLow> tension is killing me, when will it pop
[16:43] <gonzo_m2> or will you pop first
[16:44] <G6SUQ_Graham> I think that it is trying to avoid crossing the Greenwich meridien
[16:44] <gonzo_m2> the sw will be fine
[16:46] <fsphil> yikes, still going
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[16:54] <MLow> Jeez what is the burst diameter of that balloon
[16:54] <garymortimer> near a really great RC model club now and the home of Ofcoms finding dodgy people is just north
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[16:55] <garymortimer> current lading right next to big USAF cemetery
[16:56] <gonzo_> 1.8mtrs
[16:58] <gonzo_> back home now, and getting huge sigs from it!
[16:58] <fsphil> it must be near burst
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[16:59] <MLow> did anyone else see that huge shift in freq?
[17:00] <G6SUQ_Graham> it's drift up and down in freq
[17:00] <MLow> What causes that?
[17:01] <MLow> Just temp?
[17:01] <gonzo_> recon it's temp. the bat V is hardly driopped
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[17:03] <MLow> peculiar that it does it so fast
[17:03] <MLow> I would think if it was the temp it would be so gradual as to barely notice
[17:04] <MLow> 26km wow
[17:07] <PE2G> Well, to answer my own question: the blue circle in snus is lagging behind, due to some web browser slowness here.
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[17:08] <MLow> PE2G: glad to know not just me the tracker bogs
[17:08] <MLow> I figured my old laptop was to blame
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[17:10] <MLow> wouldn't that be crazy if it floated at that alt
[17:10] <pjm_> yeah that bonzo0 is pretty impressive
[17:10] <pjm_> 8 even
[17:11] <G6SUQ_Graham> strictly speaking, it's not really a floater (yet!)
[17:11] <MLow> when does it get that label?
[17:12] <Geoff-G8DHE_> 27km
[17:12] <MLow> well...
[17:12] <G6SUQ_Graham> probably when it stops climbing and stays at approx the same level for a few minutes
[17:12] <MLow> Impressed I am
[17:12] <garymortimer> Might have had a few halves here http://www.crownandcushion.com/ when flying from Little Gransden
[17:12] <MLow> halves?
[17:13] <g8fjg> google it
[17:13] <garymortimer> well half pints in the form of entire pints thus saving time and glass wshing
[17:13] <g8fjg> imp measure
[17:14] <garymortimer> getting very close to 90k feet now
[17:14] <gonzo_> for a 100gm with balloon gas mix, this is astounding!
[17:14] <garymortimer> 27432
[17:14] <fsphil> this is doing rather well
[17:15] <garymortimer> so it was balloon gas mix not helium...
[17:15] <garymortimer> pure
[17:15] <PE2G> PYSY magaged 30.6 km with a Pawan 100 recently: http://www.stratosphaere.net/index.php/en/en-home-2/m-missionen-en
[17:15] <garymortimer> gosh
[17:16] <garymortimer> I have 5 of those in a box must try them
[17:16] <MLow> It hasnt started descending yet
[17:16] <gonzo_> mix party gas, from a diposable cyl
[17:16] <garymortimer> yeah I know what you mean
[17:16] <fsphil> !dial bonzo8
[17:16] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Latest dials for 03BONZO8 10(602d): 03434.6505 MHz, 434.646101 MHz, 434.6446 MHz, 434.64828 MHz, 434.64541 MHz, 434.646143 MHz, 434.646185 MHz, 434.64521 MHz, 434.646206 MHz, 434.646227 MHz
[17:17] <garymortimer> no chase happening then gonzo, I guess you were hoping for the float
[17:17] <gonzo_> the fill was just guessed as the fill tube was leaking at the neck
[17:17] <gonzo_> so just put in enough to give what felt like the right lift and nipped the tie wraps up
[17:18] <garymortimer> over 90k now
[17:18] <fsphil> I'm not hearing it on the magmount
[17:19] <garymortimer> slowing again
[17:22] <garymortimer> 91k
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[17:26] <pjm_> what altitude is it likely to pop ?
[17:26] <gonzo_> erm, not a clue
[17:26] <MLow> 29,012m ?
[17:27] <gonzo_> not quite
[17:27] <gonzo_> or are you starting a sweepstake?
[17:27] <MLow> Yes?
[17:28] <MLow> Slowest speed yet? 0.6
[17:28] <MLow> Oh
[17:28] <MLow> 0.4
[17:29] <gonzo_> ohh, slowing
[17:29] <gonzo_> reachine elastic limit?
[17:30] <MLow> Does it have solar cells or something, can't make sense of voltage
[17:30] <gonzo_> It's just a /2 of the battery
[17:31] <pjm_> bugger ! really someone in poland rx'ing it!
[17:31] <pjm_> amazing
[17:31] <MLow> Oh, so it's a AA or something?
[17:31] <gonzo_> so that is 4.33V
[17:31] <gonzo_> 3xAAA lithiums
[17:32] <MLow> I'm confused, isn't AAA voltage 1.7?
[17:33] <gonzo_> 1.5v on a cell
[17:33] <gonzo_> the batt V is just raw adc. 1024 = 3.3v
[17:33] <gonzo_> But the an in is fed from a pot divide of half
[17:36] <garymortimer> black cat roundabout...
[17:36] <gonzo_> the chute is a complete unknown though
[17:36] <MLow> 675*2=1350 /3=450, not sure I understand
[17:36] <gonzo_> it's a folded polythene one
[17:37] <gonzo_> (ie tesco carrier bag)
[17:37] <MLow> the energizer lithiums are good down to what, 0.9?
[17:37] <garymortimer> very nice pub here http://www.thecockatbroom.co.uk/ if I had to waste time nearby
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[17:37] <gonzo_> if 1024 is full adc abd = Vdd of 3.3v
[17:37] <MLow> 0.2
[17:37] <MLow> Oh!
[17:37] <MLow> so theres no math applied to the analog input other than /2
[17:38] <garymortimer> This one is very pretty overlooking the river http://www.anchorinngreatbarford.co.uk/ might be closer to target, I guess its going to be quite a fall
[17:38] <MLow> IE, map(0,1024,0,330)
[17:40] <garymortimer> rate of climb trickling back up
[17:41] <g8fjg> my bet 28.660
[17:41] <gonzo_> that sounded burtsy!
[17:41] <garymortimer> might have seen the airship sheds at cardington
[17:41] <garymortimer> it was
[17:41] <garymortimer> burst
[17:41] <PE2G> burst?
[17:42] <G6SUQ_Graham> yep, burst
[17:42] <gonzo_> I'm wondering is the chute will be caught in the ground plane wires
[17:42] <gonzo_> would be a bit wobbly if so
[17:43] <garymortimer> 3m out g8fjg
[17:44] <MLow> figures, went to the bathroom and it burst
[17:44] <g8fjg> clairvoyant
[17:44] <garymortimer> fab flight gonzo well done
[17:44] <garymortimer> I knew her sister
[17:45] <gonzo_> interetsing the max alt shown, as I have decodes saying 28657
[17:45] <g8fjg> nice
[17:45] <gonzo_> nope, web froze
[17:45] <MLow> gonzo_: tracker for me says 28657
[17:46] <gonzo_> refresgedcthe page
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[17:46] <MLow> tx sounds like its spinning good lol
[17:47] <gonzo_> the chute should be giving drag by now, prob caught up
[17:47] <gonzo_> !
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[17:48] <PE2G> -15.5 m/s at 21 km looks encouraging to me
[17:49] <gonzo_> phew, though it had died, it was a psu fail here
[17:52] <garymortimer> Im very interested in the parachute gonzo, have you got a page with a build?
[17:52] <g8fjg> garymortimer ..this is your job,,,,,, http://www.thefountainsoham.co.uk/
[17:53] <Somisary> is anyone chasing it?
[17:53] <gonzo_> nope, but it's just a carrier bag, torn open flat, with a bit of string on each corner and a spill hole torn in the topcentre with my teeth, to try and stapilise it
[17:53] <gonzo_> stabilise
[17:54] <gonzo_> we are not chasing. But if any one fancies doing so, help yourselves
[17:54] <garymortimer> Brill, thanks
[17:54] <Somisary> im pretty close
[17:54] <PE2G> Its working nicely, this bagachute
[17:55] <garymortimer> I think I stand by some of my first pub choices g8fjg
[17:55] <gonzo_> If you recover it, I'mm happy to get it back and refly it. Or if you wabt to use it yourself, thats fine too
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[17:55] <Somisary> i'll see if i can get some stuff to track it with
[17:56] <garymortimer> This was my first call http://www.threehorseshoesmadingley.co.uk/
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[17:57] <gonzo_> if you are close and rxing, best concentarte on getting the data as low down as poss, to get an idea of the landing location. Then you can get as close as poss to look/listen
[17:57] <g8fjg> good call
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[17:59] <Somisary> alright, i'm going to have a go at finding it
[18:00] <gonzo_> good'o
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[18:03] <garymortimer> keep checking in here somisary I'm sure we willall have an opinion
[18:04] <MLow> I think they left
[18:05] <MLow> signal sounds like it is spinning something crazy
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[18:06] <gonzo_> quite prog
[18:06] <gonzo_> b
[18:07] <gonzo_> expect the gp element, where I folded the ends of the wire over so that I didn't poke my eye out when it was hanging off the cupboard door at home, has caught on the lines to the chute
[18:07] <fsphil> hey nice altitude
[18:08] <gonzo_> Should have straightened them out. Relasied after launch
[18:08] <gonzo_> yep, I'm very pleased with this flighht phil
[18:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Its been a solid signal all the way
[18:09] <MLow> ~30 minutes or so till it runs out of sky to fall i figure
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[18:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LZ100AJ after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LZ100AJ
[18:16] <MLow> ???
[18:18] <number10> nice signal here gonzo_
[18:18] <number10> spinning a bit but steady
[18:19] <MLow> what is the ground alt around there?
[18:20] <g8fjg> 0asl
[18:21] <gonzo_> seem to have slowed up quite a lot. It's prob a big chute area for a small payload
[18:22] <gonzo_> batt at 4v
[18:22] <gonzo_> anyone know what the discharge curve of klithiums is?
[18:23] <MLow> the energizer ones?
[18:23] <gonzo_> yep
[18:23] <MLow> http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/E92.pdf
[18:24] <edmoore> no no no
[18:24] <edmoore> don;t use those
[18:24] <edmoore> use energizer lithium ultimate L91 (or AAA equiv)
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[18:24] <MLow> woops sorry
[18:25] <MLow> looks like it drops pretty fast at 1v or so
[18:26] <gonzo_> 103v looks to be the knee
[18:26] <gonzo_> we are close to that at the mo
[18:26] <gonzo_> 1.3
[18:27] <G4YHE> dl fldigi seems to be reporting the wrong bearing at my qth, anyone else get this?
[18:27] <g8fjg> yep
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[18:29] <G4YHE> g8 fgy good, not just me then.
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[18:29] <g8fjg> been like that from start
[18:30] <G4YHE> I mean g8fjg
[18:32] <g8fjg> lost it this antenna only 10' agl
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[18:33] <garymortimer> http://www.lazy-otter.com/
[18:36] <MLow> getting low
[18:36] <g8fjg> switched antenna
[18:38] <MLow> is it lining up to land on the road?
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[18:41] <garymortimer> chittering farm somewhere
[18:41] <MLow> amazing that its being rx from that low
[18:41] <garymortimer> hope it avoids the pond
[18:42] <Geoff-G8DHE_> and the railway line!
[18:42] <garymortimer> my pad
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[18:43] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Hehe setting down on the Commissioners Drain!
[18:43] <MLow> amazing, 74m
[18:44] <gonzo_> not bad. Will give a damn good idea whee to look
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[18:44] <gonzo_> could DF it with an FM handheld almost
[18:44] <garymortimer> have to ask those folk from the tractors to look ;-)
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[18:44] <gonzo_> it;s a bubble wrapped thing about fist size with a carrier bag chute
[18:45] <garymortimer> well done gonzo great flight
[18:45] <gonzo_> cheers. Better than I could hav wished
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[18:45] <MLow> any word from the person that was chasing it?
[18:49] <gonzo_> the ground is pretty much sea level
[18:50] <G6SUQ_Graham> I think the guy gone to chase may have set-oof too soon ... he may not knopw where it landed
[18:51] <garymortimer> lets hope he jumps online via a phone and has a look here and or the map. Better still he has a receiver onboard and pipes back the position. So far all of mine have kept going on the ground so there is a good chance this one will
[18:52] <gonzo_> it looks like it will be just in the next field to the east
[18:53] <gonzo_> hope he runs the chase car app o the phone
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[20:17] <Somisary> well, i bonzo landed in a solar panel farm...
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[20:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah were you able to reach it ?
[20:18] <Somisary> no, high voltage cables everywhere unfortunately
[20:19] <Somisary> well, it actually may have landed just short, but that was in a resevoir
[20:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah the final position logged was a little south of the pond
[20:19] <Somisary> turns out they made that into a massive lake for wakeboarding
[20:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[20:20] <Somisary> interesting conversation explaining why i was there
[20:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah well, that's the way these things go I guess!
[20:20] <Somisary> yup, bit of a shame
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[20:25] <gonzo_> eve
[20:26] <gonzo_> did you listen for the signal?
[20:27] <Somisary> i tried
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[20:30] <Somisary> what did it look like? I might be able to have another look in the morning when there is some light
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[20:37] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC300808/
[20:37] <SpeedEvil> Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma related to gravitational challenge: systematic review of randomised controlled trials
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[21:37] <Lunar_Lander> ah the christmas edition of BMJ :)
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[21:49] <fsphil> gravitational challange
[21:50] <fsphil> presented by Jeremy Paxman
[21:57] <SpeedEvil> I would like to see IDS on that
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