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[00:28] <fxmulder> for measuring pressure at altitude one would want an absolute pressure sensor right?
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[02:11] <zyp> fxmulder, yes, because you don't have two different pressure sources that you'd want to measure the relative pressure between
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[07:45] <LunarWork> morning
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[09:48] <RealBorg> lazy leopard sounds like a ubuntu version :)
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[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
[11:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PISKY after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY
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[11:45] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LORA1 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LORA1
[11:49] <Laurenceb> ping filtering gurus:
[11:49] <Laurenceb> is a kalman filter is only a first order filter in the frequency domain?
[11:51] <edmoore> it's first-order ( a basic one) regardless of domain, i think
[11:52] <edmoore> if i've understood your q
[11:52] <edmoore> so i think all linear ones will be first order
[11:52] <Laurenceb> yeah
[11:52] <Laurenceb> ok
[11:52] <Laurenceb> so adding a filter in front of it might help
[11:52] <edmoore> for extended ones the order will be basically however many terms of the taylor expansion you keep
[11:52] <edmoore> (if i've understood the q correctly)
[11:52] <Laurenceb> it seems to help in simulation if i add a fourth order low pass Bessel in front of my kalman
[11:52] <Laurenceb> yeah you understodd the q
[11:53] <edmoore> hmm ok, so it *shouldn't* (ha) help if you add a lpf
[11:53] <edmoore> but that it does perhaps suggests an unhelpful linearising assumption in the KF that you do have
[11:53] <Laurenceb> yes my situation is very nonlinear
[11:54] <Laurenceb> if i let too much noise into the kalman it goes nuts
[11:54] <edmoore> i can imagine that
[11:54] <edmoore> i think there's probs no harm, engineeringly, for LPFing up above anything youre interested in
[11:54] <edmoore> just from an AA pov
[11:54] <Laurenceb> from back of envelope calcs I think it can help in theory to add low pass in front
[11:54] <Laurenceb> if its high order low pass
[11:55] <Laurenceb> my kalman implementation is basically sensitive to the input gradient
[11:55] <Laurenceb> so thats going to cancel and inherent first order low pass?
[11:55] <edmoore> brb
[11:56] <Laurenceb> meaning i need to kill the higher (and not relevant) frequencies in the input before they get to the filter
[11:56] <Laurenceb> k
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[12:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[13:03] <Laurenceb> http://n5dux.com/ham/files/pdf/The%20Magnetron-A%20Low%20Noise%20Long%20Life%20Amplifier.pdf
[13:06] <mattbrejza> hab uplink...
[13:06] <Laurenceb> lulz
[13:06] <Laurenceb> or more likely, hab cutdown
[13:07] <Laurenceb> hmmm
[13:07] <Laurenceb> with phase locking, microwave heated H2 based orbital launchers are possible
[13:07] <Laurenceb> just need that 1GW mains supply laying
[13:08] <Laurenceb> 10^6 magnetrons is only ~$10^7
[13:08] <Laurenceb> kickstarter time
[13:08] <mattbrejza> i reckon you could get a good bulk discount on that
[13:09] <Laurenceb> parasite drones to clip jump leads onto a pylon
[13:09] <Laurenceb> and your sorted
[13:10] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: Or just get a gyrotron
[13:10] <SpeedEvil> (not the fairground ride)
[13:13] <Laurenceb> that design reminds me of current tuned ECDL stuff
[13:14] <Laurenceb> this guy https://hololaser.wordpress.com/
[13:16] <SpeedEvil> A fascinating page
[13:16] <Laurenceb> my only issue is with his use of labview
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[13:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TEST - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TEST
[14:11] <Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/QQt8RCH.jpg
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[14:51] <Laurenceb> lulz http://typnet.net/Articles/WeedKiller.pdf
[14:53] <mattbrejza> looks more like a EM weapon
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[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[17:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC9QBK-6 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC9QBK-6
[18:01] <SM0ULC> hello
[18:26] <amell> are we likely to hear from m0SBU-11 again?
[18:26] <amell> the hysplit button seems to have disappeared.
[18:27] <amell> !hysplit run M0SBU-11
[18:27] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: You need to be an admin to do that.
[18:28] <amell> oh i found a button on UBSEDS9. strange.
[18:28] <amell> nevertheless its way out of date. be good to get a refresh
[18:31] <lz1dev> .hysplit run M0SBU-11
[18:31] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[18:37] <amell> ok. so theres a slight chance we might see it tomorrow evening
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[19:08] <amell> adamgreig: have you had anything from UKRA yet?
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[19:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TROUPYS after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TROUPYS
[19:43] <adamgreig> amell: no, not yet
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[23:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FSUS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FSUS
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