highaltitude.log.20150725

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[04:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kd7vlb2_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kd7vlb2_chase
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[05:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0RPI_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0RPI_chase
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[05:50] <mysterious_girl_> UBSEDS 9 to be launched 7:15ish
[06:10] <daveake> From where ?
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[06:13] <chimpusmaximus> Bristol going by google groups
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[06:13] <daveake> That's my guess
[06:13] <daveake> But not everyone launches from home turf
[06:13] <chimpusmaximus> True
[06:13] <daveake> I guess they're being mysterious
[06:13] <_charlie> hi :)
[06:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mrning all
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[06:28] <mysterious_girl> launch 7:40ish ubseds 9 - minor delays
[06:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is this a floater again ?
[06:28] <mysterious_girl> yes
[06:29] <mysterious_girl> qualatex
[06:29] <mysterious_girl> 8-10k float
[06:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> OK, just trying to plan the morning a several othe rflights!
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[06:33] <edmoore> mysterious_girl was among the higher points of Peter Andrés oeuvre
[06:38] <mysterious_girl> i agree
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[06:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JFS1_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JFS1_chase
[07:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS9
[07:02] <mysterious_girl> its up!
[07:03] <edmoore> good luck
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[07:11] <PE2G> GM, no high wind warnings in the UK today?
[07:12] <edmoore> PE2G: there are a few
[07:14] <PE2G> We have yellow and orange warnings for gale force winds for the whole country between 10 and 15 utc
[07:16] <PE2G> May be difficult to put/keep an antenna up.
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[07:18] <_charlie> ubseds floatind already? D: ;)
[07:18] <PE2G> Still quiet in the east of the country
[07:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nope
[07:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> its descending
[07:19] <_charlie> uh oh, yeah
[07:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/UBSEDS9_20150725/index.php?ind=3
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[07:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Maybe a downdraft ?
[07:20] <_charlie> yeah probably
[07:20] <_charlie> looks like im a minute or two behind you
[07:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Climbing again
[07:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup its back to close on 1m/s ascent again
[07:21] <_charlie> nice thats a relief
[07:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> mysterious_girl, Whats the cloud like down there ?
[07:22] <_charlie> ah yeah seen
[07:22] <richardeoin> Small patches, but mostly blue sky
[07:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> strange then
[07:24] <mysterious_girl> 0.87g free lift... perhaps too low after last floater went so high.
[07:24] <mysterious_girl> mysterious
[07:25] <_charlie> epic all the same, congrats richard
[07:27] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[07:28] <garymortimer> morning all, JFS chase positioning is it
[07:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Morning
[07:30] <garymortimer> Also how much ish in JFS? I have been tasked on all things to do on a Saturday to depart on a shopping trip and want to be back in time to catch that one.
[07:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HL1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HL1
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[07:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MM7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MM7
[07:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03uX0 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=uX0
[07:42] <_charlie> lol good range with chimpusmaximus picking mm7 already
[07:42] <chimpusmax_win> :-)
[07:42] <chimpusmax_win> helps when in field next to them
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[07:45] <_charlie> LOL ok
[07:45] <_charlie> if only you set your location to Lewis, you would have commanded my total respect :D
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[07:49] <garymortimer> Now... the MM gang are heading off into an area I have flow in. I would wait here http://www.foxinsteeple.co.uk/
[07:50] <garymortimer> flown
[07:51] <garymortimer> that said it seems to taking a fairly straight track
[07:51] <_charlie> epic overflow is epic
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[07:53] <chimpusmax_win> MM7 is being filled
[07:53] <_charlie> neat
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[07:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ubseds9
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[07:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS9 10(d0c5): none
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[07:59] <chimpusmax_win> MM7 getting ready to launch
[08:00] <chimpusmax_win> MM7 is away
[08:00] <garymortimer> Off to the Fox!
[08:01] <_charlie> hype
[08:01] <jcoxon> is it windy on the ground at the launch site? as its blowing a gale down here
[08:01] <chimpusmax_win> Not to bad, but shielded by the line of trees. Clouds moving a fair bit.
[08:02] <dbrooke> seems breezy here in N. Cambs
[08:02] Nick change: dbrooke -> db_G6GZH
[08:02] <daveake> gusty here http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IOLDGORE2#history
[08:03] <chimpusmax_win> Steve just startig to fill his balloon
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MM7Chase_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MM7Chase_chase
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[08:06] <_charlie> no livestream this time :(
[08:07] <amell> MM7 seems to be at 434.345
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[08:07] <amell> !dial MM7
[08:07] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: Latest dials for 03MM7 10(ed5b): 031 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.6203 MHz, 434.6506 MHz, 434.651 MHz
[08:07] <amell> WTF
[08:08] <amell> wonder if i am picking up a harmonic
[08:08] <Upu> !track MM7
[08:08] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MM7
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[08:09] <amell> how strange. yes it is a harmonic at 434.345, and it can be decoded with Rv ticked.
[08:09] <amell> anyone else see that?
[08:10] <amell> the real signal is at 434.650
[08:10] <amell> and can be decoded with Rv unticked.
[08:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> IF Image ?
[08:11] <amell> whats that?
[08:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Are you using a superhet radio with an if frequency ?
[08:12] <amell> no. a rtl dongle.
[08:13] <amell> remarkably early launch. and surprised a hab actually took off on time.
[08:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> might be the image on that then what is the centre frequency you have the dongle tuned to
[08:14] <amell> centre freq is 434.119
[08:14] <chimpusmax_win> Belive
[08:14] <chimpusmax_win> Believe Steve is about to launch
[08:14] <amell> what freq?
[08:14] <daveake> We Believe
[08:14] <chimpusmax_win> Just doing some final checks
[08:14] <amell> freq?
[08:15] <_charlie> Forgive me, I asked this before, but how do I download only the kml for a certain balloon?
[08:15] <chimpusmax_win> XABEN-92 comprising
[08:15] <chimpusmax_win> HL1 434.250MHz 425Hz shift FSK 7N1
[08:15] <chimpusmax_win> uX0 434.350MHz 425Hz shift FSK 7N1
[08:15] <_charlie> like ux0
[08:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> that doesn't compute then but if the tones are reversed it sounds like an image problem
[08:15] <amell> has he turned payload on?
[08:16] <chimpusmax_win> Winds picked up
[08:16] <chimpusmax_win> HL1 is deff on
[08:17] <amell> is it outside in open air? cant see it.
[08:17] <amell> i can see it now :)
[08:17] <amell> briefly just then
[08:17] <amell> faint. but definately not decodable
[08:18] <chimpusmax_win> Was moved aroud a bit
[08:18] <chimpusmax_win> its on its way up
[08:19] <Upu> !dial UBSEDS9
[08:19] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS9 10(d0c5): 03434.599042 MHz
[08:19] <amell> strong
[08:19] <amell> got it at 123m :)
[08:19] <RocketBoy> XABEN away
[08:19] <amell> green at 123m :)
[08:20] <amell> about 540 shift.
[08:21] <amell> shame its going in opposite direction, had camera ready
[08:22] <_charlie> lol at that windy bit at mm7
[08:34] <PE2G> !dial MM7
[08:34] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Latest dials for 03MM7 10(ed5b): 031 MHz, 1400 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.6 MHz, 434.65463 MHz, 0.006 MHz, 434.6511 MHz, 434.65457 MHz, 434.65456 MHz
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[08:36] <Troupy> is anyone tracking MM7 just now at home?
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[08:41] <PE2G> Troupy: Yes, MM7 is on 434.653 MHz
[08:42] <Troupy> Should it be there on the nose? I have faint yellow in my wfall but seldom see the red but I am up in Scotland
[08:42] <amell> red??
[08:43] <Troupy> tested my pload to about 2 miles away but trying to make sure i can track at distance but not managed so far
[08:43] <amell> upload a capture of your screen/window to imgur and paste the link here
[08:43] <amell> oh, werent you in aberdeen?
[08:43] <amell> if so it is over the horizon for you
[08:44] <amell> so you wont hear it.
[08:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> Until your in the Blue circle in the tracker you won't have much chance of hearing it at all!
[08:46] <amell> looks like hes not even online
[08:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup he was showing the other day
[08:47] <Troupy> http://imgur.com/9zfAxfn
[08:47] <Troupy> yes up in Aberdeen folks,
[08:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> No that's local interference QRM
[08:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> what aerial are you using ?
[08:47] <Troupy> ah, blue circle I se
[08:47] <Troupy> thanks, diamond x50
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[08:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> OK well until yoour inside then not a chance, even then it might be closer to the green one than the blue one
[08:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> before yo hear anything
[08:49] <Troupy> thanks for that, hope there are a few people north of England can track as back up when I launch :-(
[08:49] <amell> Upu will track you i am sure.
[08:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> That will be your biggest problem!
[08:50] <amell> fsphil will probably be able to track you too
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[08:51] <Troupy> fsphill, thanks will try and let them know when I am launching
[08:51] <Troupy> UPU too, thanks
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[08:53] <PA0RPA> Goede morgen Jan ( PE1ANS ) lekker balonnen weer.....
[08:54] Nick change: DrLuke__ -> DrLuke
[08:54] <_charlie> mm7 chase is all over the place
[09:02] <amell> MM7 chase might as well just stay still
[09:03] <garymortimer> Or drive to the Fox to setup ground ops
[09:04] <_charlie> They could well be, I saw them teleport from Elsworth to some lakes back to elsworth and then near duxford in about 4 fixes :P
[09:04] <amell> seems like an appropriate time to have a fried breakfast
[09:05] <_charlie> always appropriate :D
[09:05] <_charlie> i had to make do with a boiled egg in a kettle :(
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[09:11] <amell> back at elsworth?
[09:12] <_charlie> looks gusty up there
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[09:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BACON_Chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BACON_Chase
[09:19] <_charlie> i love seeing all the balloons launched from elsworth
[09:19] <_charlie> get to see how the winds move
[09:20] <edmoore> are you into rockets _charlie?
[09:21] <_charlie> I'm most curious. I haven't done any manufacturing, or looked into the theory aggressively, but find it super interesting (and would like to get into it proper someday)
[09:22] <_charlie> you do much rocketeering?
[09:26] <_charlie> pop :D
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[09:30] <_charlie> ubseds off over the channel now nice one
[09:30] <_charlie> talking of which, have you been to the old rocket ranges on Wight?
[09:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Should have been at float by now but those downdrafts earlier on has delayed it
[09:31] <_charlie> 1.3m is a bit fast or not?
[09:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> It was planned to be about 1.3-1.5m/s but earlier in the flight it dipped down for a good 30-40 minutes
[09:33] <_charlie> ah fair enough
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[09:35] <dl01> !dial ux0
[09:35] <SpacenearUS> 03dl01: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:36] <dl01> !dial uX0
[09:36] <SpacenearUS> 03dl01: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> Don't think Steve put a flight in :-(
[09:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[09:37] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03MM7 10(ed5b), 03UBSEDS9 434.600 RTTY, CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(d0c5), 03JFS3 10(b394), 03144.7MHz RTTY100bd/450/7n2 10(0f06)
[09:37] <PE2G> uX0 on 434.349 Mhz
[09:38] <dl01> thx
[09:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
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[09:44] <mfa298_>
[09:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0SBU-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=M0SBU-11
[09:46] <amell> _charlie: rocketeering?
[09:47] <amell> _charlie: elsworth first sunday of the month. probably not in august though
[09:47] <_charlie> Not around elsworth though :/
[09:47] <amell> chimpusmaximus: has farmer done the harvest of the field right next to balloon launch area?
[09:47] <amell> he hadnt when i went by yesterday
[09:47] <number10> Geoff-G8DHE:, I dont think steve ever puts one in
[09:47] <number10> someone usually does it for him on the day
[09:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Used to!
[09:48] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah well yes that might be!
[09:50] <amell> adamgreig: i was talking to a chap who apparently has your O8000 motor. do take pictures when you open it as it is apparently rare as hens teeth
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[09:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Will need a hy-split on UBSEDS9 soon
[09:51] <amell> is it a floater?
[09:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh APRS as well!
[09:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes Qualtex with 0.87gram free lift
[09:53] <amell> very precise
[09:54] <number10> road next to sour brook usually gets flooded
[09:54] <amell> must be in a completely draft proof room
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[09:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> [08:24] <mysterious_girl> 0.87g free lift... perhaps too low after last floater went so high.
[09:56] <amell> i thought leos were c.2g free lift
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[09:59] <amell> number10: is one of these going to land in your back garden?
[10:00] <number10> steves maydo
[10:00] <number10> he has done two or three before and I could still rx when it landed
[10:00] <edmoore> _charlie: sorry ran off
[10:00] <edmoore> yes, was just going to echo amella really
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[10:01] <edmoore> elsworth is the home of the East Angian Rocketry Society
[10:01] <_charlie> np ed :)
[10:01] <edmoore> lots of fun launches
[10:01] <_charlie> sounds cool
[10:01] <edmoore> it's a fun sunday
[10:01] <edmoore> and rocketry in general is fun
[10:01] <_charlie> Do you build liquid engines and such?
[10:01] <edmoore> yes
[10:01] <edmoore> but that's with work
[10:01] <_charlie> awesome
[10:01] <_charlie> any videos? :D
[10:01] <_charlie> ah ok
[10:01] <edmoore> most of the amateur rocketry stuff is solids
[10:01] <edmoore> or hybrids
[10:02] <amell> edmoore: bring one of your liquid engines to a sunday launch&
[10:02] <edmoore> teehee
[10:02] <amell> harvest was just done so its fine ;)
[10:02] <_charlie> You cant manufacture solids in the UK can you?
[10:02] <edmoore> i thought about it actually
[10:02] <edmoore> making a sort of M-class biprop
[10:02] <edmoore> _charlie: not without paperwork
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[10:02] <_charlie> fair enough
[10:03] <edmoore> tend to buy them from a few importers who bring them from the states
[10:03] <amell> ed: MRC at twycross in september is looking very good.
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[10:03] <amell> ed: 5 M class flights planned. 2 hybrid.
[10:03] <edmoore> where is twycross?
[10:04] <amell> twycross zoo
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[10:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03F5APQ_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=F5APQ_chase
[10:04] <amell> coventry sort of way, north of nuneaton
[10:04] <_charlie> Used to go to coventry...
[10:04] <amell> edmoore: adamgreig was thinking of also launching something there
[10:05] <edmoore> cool
[10:05] <edmoore> i might pop along
[10:05] <amell> i have paving slabs stacked up in the back garden. we need them for the M flights.
[10:06] <amell> site is a grass airport runway, cant be leaving M craters in the runway.
[10:06] <_charlie> must cost a fortune in petrol lugging those around :P
[10:06] <edmoore> yes we nadgered a blast deflection plate ins cotland
[10:07] <amell> heavy paving slabs should be ok for M
[10:07] <edmoore> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cuspaceflight/7316327514/in/album-72157630002319102/
[10:07] <edmoore> that was flat before the the N lit
[10:08] <amell> lol
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[10:19] <chimpusmaximus> amell: Field not been done yet
[10:19] <daveake> JFS team have arrived
[10:24] <adamgreig> amell: hah, small world as ever. name of?
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[10:24] <adamgreig> will definitely take photos - they are made to order and quite rarely I'm told
[10:24] <adamgreig> we did open it to have a quick peek already, it's quite the motor
[10:27] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is your web cam operational daveake ?
[10:27] <PE2G> Lost uX0 at -0.5 deg, 447 km
[10:27] <daveake> just swiotched it on
[10:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Used to be on the blog page but not now ?
[10:29] <daveake> erm, don't think so
[10:30] <number10> looks like RocketBoy is on his way home - are you not going to recover uX0?
[10:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah on the BATC.TV site http://www.batc.tv/ch_live.php
[10:30] <daveake> Is it showing? Sometimes it works but I don't see the stream here
[10:31] <chimpusmax_win> Looks ok
[10:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like it blue traupalin out and a white table ?
[10:31] <daveake> cool that is correct :)
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[10:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LORA1 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LORA1
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[10:40] <roamer> hi all, can anyone tell me the transmission frequency of HL1?
[10:40] <adamgreig> !dial HL1
[10:40] <SpacenearUS> 03adamgreig: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[10:40] <adamgreig> sigh
[10:40] <chimpusmax_win> 434.250MHz 425Hz shift FSK 7N1
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> HL1 has landed anyway
[10:41] <roamer> sorry, new to irc
[10:41] <roamer> thank you both
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[10:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03MM7 10(ed5b), 03UBSEDS9 434.600 RTTY, CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(d0c5), 03JFS3 10(b394), 03144.7MHz RTTY100bd/450/7n2 10(0f06)
[10:41] <adamgreig> sorry, I was sighing because the fun automatic system for getting dial frequencies failed me
[10:41] <adamgreig> not your fault!
[10:41] <roamer> ah hehe gotcha
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Steve didn't log a flight doc.
[10:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> UBSEDS9, JFS3, PISKY & LORA1 are or will be flying
[10:43] <SA6BSS> prediction on ubseds http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=0650d10fa959a909be19aede2a60aec28fad7d21
[10:44] <Jerry> dial! UBSEDS9
[10:44] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PISKY after 0318 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PISKY
[10:44] <Jerry> !dial UBSEDS9
[10:44] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS9 10(d0c5): 03434.599 MHz, 434.599005 MHz, 434.59848 MHz, 434.599039 MHz
[10:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JFS3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JFS3
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[10:48] <SA6BSS> and noaa trajectory http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/130925_trj001.gif
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[10:52] <RocketBoy> number10: m11 accident - no direct path onto a11 - had to go up a junction then back
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[10:57] <number10> ah - I wondered
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[11:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> Not sure that cats and balloons will mix well ?
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[11:18] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[11:19] <garymortimer> jsf1 chase must go upto the White Horse at Uffingtton to wait much nicer view they are not far away
[11:19] <garymortimer> High up great radio horizon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uffington_White_Horse
[11:19] <garymortimer> car park looks the right way
[11:20] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[11:22] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
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[11:22] <garymortimer> https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Whitehorse+Hill,+Faringdon,+Oxfordshire+SN7,+UK/@51.5666667,-1.5666667,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x48714cf2dc987ef3:0x9320c703111bedf7?hl=en
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[11:26] <chimpusmax_win> Looks windy
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[11:30] <craag> Afternoon all, any lora payloads up right now?
[11:31] <garymortimer> almost i think
[11:31] <chimpusmax_win> Not yet but looks like daves wont be long
[11:32] <craag> Cool thanks
[11:32] <craag> amsatuk colloquium currently live at http://batc.tv/live/events/amsatuk/ btw
[11:35] <garymortimer> Dave not streaming?
[11:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yup
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[11:36] <Mark_B> Afternoon
[11:38] <Mark_B> MM7 recovered. It landed close to the edge of a wheat field and was easily seen and collected following tractor wheel tracks
[11:38] <garymortimer> Would'nt want this flight to go long and go towards the bomb factory at Burghfield common
[11:38] <garymortimer> well done
[11:38] <Mark_B> Thanks for everyone's help with the tracking
[11:43] <daveake> Just waiting for JFS3 to get closed up, then we'll launch
[11:43] <craag> Websdr lora rx standing by..
[11:43] <daveake> :)
[11:43] <daveake> Julie has been tasked with carrying the ne
[11:43] <daveake> netbook and aiming webcam at the balloon
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[11:44] <daveake> lora is just about managing to do the same image rate as rtty, but with 4x the image pixels
[11:44] <garymortimer> Would'nt want this flight to go long and go towards the bomb factory at Burghfield common
[11:44] <Laurenceb__> whats the max range for LoRa uplink?
[11:45] <garymortimer> humm I said that twice, thats strange
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[11:47] <garymortimer> looks like a lovely day http://ssdv.habhub.org/
[11:48] <Mark_B> Good luck daveake
[11:48] <Mark_B> bfn
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[11:49] <Geoff-G8DHE> Hope Dave never lets a balloon go from the garden, those power lines are close!
[11:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> UBSEDS9 has cleared my range now so all ears to Ros-On-Wye!
[11:50] <Jerry> !dial UBSEDS9
[11:50] <SpacenearUS> 03Jerry: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS9 10(d0c5): 03434.599 MHz, 434.6 MHz, 0.006 MHz
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[12:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah JFS is ascending
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[12:18] <PA0RPA> Is UBSEDS9 transmitting ? I do not hear anything on 434.600 Mhz.
[12:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> 1 minute cycle, pips, RTTY, RSID, Contestia
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[12:22] <PA0RPA> Ok, not continuous, Thanks for the info
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[12:25] <garymortimer> those balloons are off to Downton (ish)
[12:26] <daveake> Only JFS3 went up; slight launch issue :/
[12:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah!
[12:28] <Upu> !dial JFS
[12:28] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:28] <daveake> JFS3
[12:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial jfs3
[12:29] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03JFS3 10(b394): 03434.65276 MHz, 434.65248 MHz, 434.653346 MHz, 434.6527 MHz, 434.6524 MHz
[12:30] <garymortimer> uffington would stil be a great place to wait
[12:30] <daveake> yes
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[12:34] <Upu> define launch issue daveake
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[12:54] <garymortimer> jfs on the way down
[12:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4CQQ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4CQQ-11
[12:58] <garymortimer> thats going to be a long way away at that rate of descent
[12:58] <garymortimer> big thunderstorm down here in RSA, snowing on the mountains to the west of us. Might even be here before the afternoon is out
[12:59] <garymortimer> I might be driving towards Newbury now
[13:00] <garymortimer> Perhaps even Basingstoke
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[13:02] <garymortimer> This used to be my local down that way http://www.phoenixinn.co.uk/, in that the company was based about 500m away
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[13:04] <garymortimer> fingers crossed it turns slightly right some fab places that way
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[13:06] <garymortimer> Are they going to recover JFS? They ought to get going some cross country driving to be done
[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB4RSM - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB4RSM
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[13:12] <garymortimer> must stay away from burgfield and aldermaston
[13:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Didn't look like a Burst just a nice curve back down :-(
[13:17] <garymortimer> really don't need that left turn its going towards places you won't get it back from
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-12 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-12
[13:21] <daveake> It won't do a left turn
[13:21] <daveake> The predictor is a tad confused
[13:22] <LazyLeopard> Hmmm... Will it reach ground level before it runs out of ground?
[13:22] <garymortimer> Its just missing Aldermaston at the minute
[13:23] <daveake> They're off in their car now
[13:23] <garymortimer> should slow down before then though
[13:23] <LazyLeopard> What sort of balloon is it? Looks like it's done the "spring a small leak, and descend slowly" trick...
[13:23] <daveake> yeah looks like it's leaking
[13:23] <daveake> H1200
[13:25] <LazyLeopard> Right. So it should have gone a lot higher and then burst, but there was a weak spot in the latex...
[13:25] <daveake> yes
[13:25] <garymortimer> I may have had a few sweet sherrys with a couple of good friends here http://www.rowbarge-woolhampton.co.uk/ back in the day. No idea what its like now
[13:26] <daveake> Been there once
[13:26] <daveake> Nice food iirc
[13:26] <garymortimer> could do with this flight hitting the deck now
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[13:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Probably around Silchester area
[13:29] <garymortimer> not before.....
[13:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kd7vlb_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kd7vlb_chase
[13:30] <garymortimer> southampton websdr would be good for it now but my interwebs are too slow this pm
[13:31] <craag> garymortimer: websdr is currently down due to software issues :(
[13:31] <craag> Sorry about tat
[13:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kj4cqq-car - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kj4cqq-car
[13:31] <craag> *that
[13:32] <craag> The core sw has stopped connecting to the rtlsdrs reliably, we may get a chance to work on it tomorrow evening.
[13:32] <garymortimer> would'nt work for me at the minute anyway, my interwebs is via a 5.8 link to a hill 11km away and its raining right now so super slow
[13:33] <garymortimer> sorry 7km away
[13:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Descent speeding up abot
[13:35] <garymortimer> seen the airfield ;-)
[13:36] <garymortimer> A jodel lives there if I remember right
[13:37] <garymortimer> looks like an ultralight strip now
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[13:38] <garymortimer> missed Aldermaston I think
[13:38] <g8fjg> $$$ JFS3,658,13:36:46,51.381222,-1.170910,647,30,6,1,9Y998,21,14*C06F
[13:40] <garymortimer> In Aldermaston Village I reckon ish
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[13:41] <garymortimer> http://www.hindsheadaldermaston.co.uk/
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[13:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03kd4bfp-car - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=kd4bfp-car
[14:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[14:20] <craag> Amateur Sat Pass demo on http://batc.tv/live/events/amsatuk/
[14:21] <Lunar_Lander> nice!
[14:33] <SM0ULC> Add hysplit to UBSEDS-9?
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[14:35] <lz1dev> .hysplit add UBSEDS9
[14:35] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03UBSEDS9 to defaults
[14:35] <lz1dev> .hysplit run UBSEDS9
[14:35] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB8PVR-3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB8PVR-3
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[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-15 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-15
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[15:40] <garymortimer> did they find jfs3?
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[15:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-6 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-6
[15:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA7NSR-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA7NSR-7
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[16:15] <NormanOK> hello everyone, is there anyone from Kansan here?
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[16:25] <Laurenceb__> follow the yellow brick road?
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[16:31] <NormanOK> yeah :)
[16:33] <NormanOK> I launched a balloon last night with a morse code transmitter on it. no gps, it just sends temperature and voltage. I am wondering if someone in Kansan could try to listen to it.
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[16:43] <garymortimer> what frequency Norma?
[16:43] <garymortimer> Norman
[16:45] <NormanOK> 434 MHz +- 10 KHz
[16:46] <NormanOK> it transmits in a loop: 3 x (sleep 16 secs, short burst 300 ms) then callsign msgnumber temp voltage
[16:48] <NormanOK> are you in Kansas garymortimer?
[16:51] <NormanOK> lowest temperature I saw last night was -15 celcius, so I am guessing it must be at ~5 km altitude with a radio horizon of ~300 km. it must be near Wichita, Kansas right now.
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[16:57] <Upu> JFS recovered from a field
[17:03] <Lunar_Lander> good news
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[17:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TROUPYS after 035 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TROUPYS
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[17:44] <DL1SGP> !dial UBSEDS9
[17:44] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS9 10(d0c5): 03434.5 MHz
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[18:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:41] <jet> opinions on this payload label? http://i.imgur.com/Ajv99Tq.jpg
[18:42] <jet> ik there's already a premade one but I wanted to make my own :)
[18:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Troupys_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Troupys_chase
[18:54] <jet> !fetch jam on toast
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[19:46] <fox123> hallo all, please, accepts anyone UBSEDS9
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[19:52] <fox123> hallo all, please, accepts anyone UBSEDS9
[20:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG5HAN-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG5HAN-11
[20:07] <DL1SGP> fox123: we got quite a stormy wx in central germany at present, with gusts going up to 110km/h so unfortunately my antennas have been moved to a safe position which does not permit me best performance for listening for the balloon
[20:10] <DL1SGP> !dial ubseds9
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS9 10(d0c5): 030.02 MHz
[20:10] <richardeoin> Also ubseds9 appears to have shutdown for the night, 3 volts is the minimum for transmission
[20:12] <DL1SGP> yeah we gonna see if it resumes once sun is back
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[20:46] <SP9UOB-Tom> evening All
[20:46] <SM0ULC> evning
[20:46] <brust> hello
[20:49] <SM0ULC> none heard of UBSEDS-9 for a while?
[20:50] <SP9UOB-Tom> SM0ULC: quiet here :-(
[20:50] <SM0ULC> :(
[20:50] <SM0ULC> Looked so good for Sweden :)
[20:51] <SP9UOB-Tom> it looks like old, good Leo design :-)
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[20:52] <SM0ULC> Wonder if Leo will return
[20:53] <SP9UOB-Tom> me too
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[21:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Think it's only solar powered?
[21:04] <fox123> GL ALL
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[21:14] <TROUPYS> Hi all, me again...hoping for a bit of help around downloading the PITS images saved on the card to pc???
[21:17] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-11 after 0316 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-11
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[22:48] <Laurenceb__> uh oh
[22:48] <Laurenceb__> http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2015-4083
[22:49] <amell> adamgreig: Mark Clark in Arizona.
[22:51] <adamgreig> that's the one
[22:51] <adamgreig> fingers crossed will have photos of it in serious action, in addition to unboxing ;)
[22:51] <adamgreig> we did actually unbox it last year
[22:51] <amell> Good. slo-mo video 240fps perhaps?
[22:51] <adamgreig> doesn't look like I took any photos of the insides though. we didn't open the grain
[22:52] <adamgreig> grains
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[22:52] <adamgreig> good box though
[22:52] <adamgreig> comes in a nice wooden crate
[22:52] <adamgreig> yea we should have a buncha cameras
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[22:52] <amell> It has to have a good box if its 8000 Ns.
[22:52] <adamgreig> well indeed
[22:52] <adamgreig> it has to be transported on its own truck in canada
[22:53] <amell> presumably with no smoking signs on it.
[22:53] <adamgreig> you got it
[22:55] <amell> 5.12s burntime.
[22:55] <amell> damn
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[22:56] <amell> I always wanted to see a O3700 skidmark take off.
[22:56] <adamgreig> I'm more worried about the minute long cruise to apogee
[22:56] <adamgreig> will be terrified the whole time
[22:57] <adamgreig> recovery deployment is all my hardware and code
[22:58] <amell> 40960Ns in 5.12s? that is mad thrust.
[22:58] <amell> How many Gs?
[22:58] <adamgreig> 20G iirc
[22:58] <adamgreig> ish
[22:58] <adamgreig> not got the sim data handy
[22:59] <adamgreig> enough to be quite scary
[22:59] <adamgreig> it is indeed mad thrust
[22:59] <amell> hamster would go splat if he was inside.
[22:59] <adamgreig> yea
[22:59] <adamgreig> as would any switches, spring contacts, et cetera
[22:59] <adamgreig> connectors, loose cables, too
[22:59] <amell> what height are you aiming for?
[22:59] <SpeedEvil> Unfortunately, for small rockets, getting >mach 1 basically screws your performance
[23:00] <adamgreig> depends what performance you care about really
[23:00] <amell> speedevil: lol
[23:00] <adamgreig> if you want to go wicked fast then getting >M1 is great
[23:00] <SpeedEvil> Dragwise, it would in principle be better to be able to coast at .8 mach
[23:00] <SpeedEvil> Ah - altitude
[23:00] <adamgreig> yea it's a shame
[23:00] <amell> speedevil: fook that shit. this is an O8000!
[23:00] <adamgreig> still we anticipate a useful altitude
[23:00] <SpeedEvil> Oh - sure. You can get to ridiculous speeds.
[23:00] <adamgreig> should in principle beat up and take the lunch money of the current UKRA altitude tables
[23:00] Action: SpeedEvil ponders posting the sprint-abm again
[23:00] <adamgreig> the sprint, oh boy
[23:01] <adamgreig> my fav rocket ever
[23:01] <amell> is that the nuclear traffic cone?
[23:01] <adamgreig> if dropbox wasn't being shoddy i'd have photos of the box for you amell
[23:01] <adamgreig> amell: no, that was.. orion?
[23:02] <adamgreig> this is a low altitude nuclear warhead defence rocket
[23:02] <adamgreig> it intercepts post-deployment warheads in 'last minute' sort of scenarios
[23:02] <adamgreig> last few seconds more like
[23:02] <SpeedEvil> amell: yes
[23:02] <SpeedEvil> It's shaped like a traffic cone
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[23:03] <adamgreig> it's shaped like a rocket :P
[23:03] <adamgreig> 100G off the pad
[23:03] <adamgreig> 0 to mach 10 in 5s
[23:04] <amell> mach 10 must have some crazy heating
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[23:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA2GKA-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA2GKA-11
[23:04] <adamgreig> yea gets up to 3400C
[23:04] <adamgreig> ablative heat shield
[23:04] <adamgreig> which ablates so much it needs a some-megawatt radio on the ground to send nav instructions
[23:05] <adamgreig> otherwise a very nice ion shield
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[23:07] <amell> The Hibex missile managed 400Gs :)
[23:07] <adamgreig> amell: casing and the box: https://carousel.dropbox.com/photos/cc/qmdAKtfgyWyTq76
[23:08] <amell> no mech gyro, this used a laser gyro.
[23:08] <adamgreig> laser gyros are the thing
[23:09] <adamgreig> wish i had a laser gyro
[23:09] <adamgreig> four pages of assembly instructions for that O8000
[23:09] <adamgreig> bit more intense than your common-or-garden variety G motor
[23:09] <amell> better be damn sure you glue it up right
[23:10] <amell> I saw a pro54 case peel open like a banana.
[23:10] <Laurenceb__> how?
[23:10] <amell> cracked grain
[23:10] <Laurenceb__> interesting
[23:11] <adamgreig> if you have a cracked grain you are in for a lot of trouble
[23:11] <amell> if you have a cracked grain on a O8000, you are going to make a brown mess in your trousers.
[23:11] <adamgreig> not just my trousers
[23:11] <adamgreig> trying to get the casing into the rocket: https://carousel.dropbox.com/photos/cc/ztKjUEln7qMrzA7
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> nice
[23:12] <amell> alignment appears suspect
[23:12] <amell> even i can tell that isnt straight!
[23:12] <adamgreig> hehe
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> I should do some work on my rocket
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> too much other work :-/
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> I'm up at 12:12 raging at kalman filters :-/
[23:13] <amell> my 60 fruity red and white arrived. its sweet.
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> I'll try to get some hardware together for the conference
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> and 30 minutes of slides :-/
[23:13] <amell> what conference?
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> ukhas2015
[23:14] <adamgreig> fruity make lovely stuff
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> are you coming amell?
[23:14] <amell> why would you talk about rockets at a hab conference?
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> https://ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference2015
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> 11:00 Crossing the Karman Line - Laurence Blaxter & Leo Bodnar
[23:15] <amell> no. wont be there as im actually on holiday then.
[23:15] <amell> Im pretty sure a B didnt cross the karman line...
[23:15] <Laurenceb__> nvm, there should be video
[23:15] <Laurenceb__> erm yeah, hence the rocket stuff :P
[23:15] <adamgreig> it's not a hab conference
[23:16] <adamgreig> it's the UK high altitude society conference
[23:16] <Laurenceb__> yup
[23:16] <adamgreig> we had talks about rockets at the very first conference
[23:16] <amell> whats leo done with rockets? hmmmmm...
[23:17] <amell> anyway, id have loved to go, but august is a bad time!
[23:18] <adamgreig> amell: a bit less sure if I'll make it to midland sky this year as the guy who's building the rocket for testing stuff on is away those days, just available for irw
[23:18] <adamgreig> but i might make up something a bit simple and go for a level 1 myself and bring that
[23:18] <amell> what, youve not done a level 1? :)
[23:18] <adamgreig> if ukra ever take money to renew my membership
[23:19] <amell> ill gladly take your money.
[23:19] <adamgreig> nope! built soo many rockets of that and higher calibre but it's never been my name on the cert sheet
[23:19] <adamgreig> I tend to do the tracking and recovery and avionics etc
[23:19] <amell> seeing as im actually the ukra membership sec lol
[23:19] <adamgreig> lol
[23:19] <amell> we do nice cards.
[23:19] <adamgreig> I emailed ukramembership@outlook.com a week ago
[23:19] <adamgreig> yea I had one once..
[23:20] <adamgreig> need to renew my tripoli membership too
[23:20] <amell> yeah, theres a bit of a delay at the moment, i only just took it over, and the card printer is down at simons still.
[23:20] <adamgreig> fair
[23:20] <Lunar_Lander> "A balloon-borne accelerometer technique for measuring atmospheric turbulence"
[23:21] <adamgreig> no rush, not sure if I'll have time to put together a rocket for ears/midland
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> wow you got that professor from the Uni of Reading?
[23:21] <adamgreig> hope so though, I wanna get as many tests of this in as possible
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[23:22] <amell> Andy Nguyen is at UKHAS?
[23:23] <amell> oh, streamed. that makes more sense.
[23:23] <adamgreig> amell: are you likely to go to sept EARS?
[23:24] <Lunar_Lander> who did the booking for the conference?
[23:24] <adamgreig> assuming it's on, but hopefully harvest will be done by then
[23:24] <amell> it will be done by sept.
[23:24] <amell> its actually mostly done, so we might even get an august ears.
[23:24] <adamgreig> in a week? nice
[23:24] <adamgreig> probably won't have anything ready to fly by then :P
[23:24] <amell> just one field left, and im hoping he will do it this week coming.
[23:25] <adamgreig> though tbh could totally do that next week if I got around to it
[23:25] <adamgreig> eh, firmware's not really ready for testing yet anyway
[23:25] <adamgreig> but sept ears is a likely candidate
[23:25] <adamgreig> would be a good chance to get l1 and then do some bigger tests at midland the week after
[23:26] <adamgreig> are there reasonable odds of getting ukra membership before IRW in a month's time?
[23:26] <amell> Ill ask Simon where your card is. have you paid for the membership?
[23:26] <adamgreig> no
[23:26] <adamgreig> emailed asking to pay
[23:26] <adamgreig> guessing need a paypal invoice like previously
[23:26] <amell> you just sent enquiry. ok
[23:26] <adamgreig> happy to also just send paypal money
[23:27] <amell> its way too complicated at the moment, my aim is to make it simples
[23:27] <adamgreig> good luck :p
[23:27] <amell> with reminder emails in january.
[23:27] <adamgreig> yea..
[23:27] <adamgreig> any thought to having memberships all last for a whole year?
[23:28] <amell> the BMFA runs january to january
[23:28] <adamgreig> ah
[23:28] <adamgreig> makes sense to follow that then I suppose
[23:28] <amell> but they do have a discounted one after about september.
[23:28] <adamgreig> mm
[23:28] <amell> its only like 15 quid less. UKRA dont do this (yet)
[23:28] <adamgreig> I feel like the bmfa should be trying to get more of the drone flyers involved
[23:28] <adamgreig> so many of them could do with being told what the law is and getting some insurance
[23:28] <amell> they are getting better
[23:29] <adamgreig> though i guess a lot of them don't wanna hear it :P
[23:29] <adamgreig> at least there's still the fpv exception iirc
[23:29] <amell> I hear a drone was chasing planes down the flightpath at LHR last week from 4000ft.
[23:29] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 4000 ft = 1219 m
[23:29] <adamgreig> anyway yea, should i just paypal money or wait for someone to tell me?
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[23:31] <amell> ive chased simon just now.
[23:32] <amell> we only agreed to change membership sec a couple of weeks ago. he should still be doing it until we get the stuff passed over.
[23:32] <adamgreig> sweet, thanks
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