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[00:32] <Ian_> It is just a repo download with SUSE
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[06:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03nissan_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=nissan_chase
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[07:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EQUIPO ESA_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EQUIPO%20ESA_chase
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[08:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03COPA1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=COPA1
[08:18] <HB9RSU_> Morning :-)
[08:20] <HB9RSU_> I have an old Pi in the Sky board and installed the latest software from GIT and now the temperature is not read out anymore. ANy hints?
[08:22] <daveake> Yeah add this to pisky.txt:
[08:22] <daveake> external_temperature=1
[08:22] <daveake> Looks like I introduced a bug when I added support for a second sensor
[08:25] <HB9RSU_> ah thanks! I turned it off because of the "external" ;-)
[08:26] <dsockwell> where do you drill the holes in the pi board
[08:26] <daveake> I'll change it so the code ignores that setting if there's only one sensor
[08:26] <dsockwell> what parts of a pi can you cut off
[08:27] Action: dsockwell digs his up
[08:27] <daveake> The problem is that if you add an external sensor on the bus, it can't tell which is the on-board one and which is the external
[08:27] <daveake> So it needs telling, hence the setting
[08:28] <dsockwell> i razz
[08:28] <dsockwell> but do you guys strip your flight pis?
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[08:29] <daveake> strip sockets off, yes, rarely
[08:29] <sq5kvs> Hi!
[08:29] <dsockwell> hmm
[08:30] <dsockwell> are there other common platforms
[08:30] <daveake> some people use arduinos
[08:30] <daveake> many people make their own pcbs
[08:31] <eroomde> the most fun ^
[08:31] <daveake> and the lightest
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[08:32] <dsockwell> hmmm
[08:33] <sq5kvs> hm
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[08:34] <eroomde> lots of deep thought going on this morning
[08:35] <sq5kvs> eroomde: the answer is "42"
[08:35] <dsockwell> i bet i could cut 1/6 of this pi off with a dremel, polish off any shorts, and have it boot
[08:36] <daveake> i bet it'd be a waste of time
[08:36] <dsockwell> you're right
[08:37] <x-f> sq5kvs, but what actually is the question?
[08:37] <chimpusmaximus> Can save more by looking at GPS antenna.
[08:37] <mfa298> unless you've got something like a handy CT machine handy to see where all the tracks on the inner layer of the pcb go finding the 1/6 of the board you can remove could be a fun task. I hope you have many Pi's to skip.
[08:37] <sq5kvs> x-f: "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything" :)
[08:38] <eroomde> dsockwell: i'd fly the pi as-is just to get a flight under your belt (a super useful experience)
[08:38] <eroomde> then go to town on making a tiny custom flight tracker pcb, if that's what you want to explore
[08:39] <sq5kvs> and, especially for the " <eroomde> lots of deep thought going on this morning"
[08:39] <eroomde> you will find *tonnes* of help with pcb design in this channel
[08:39] <x-f> sq5kvs, it's too broad, that's why they had to build the second version to find out what the question actually was
[08:39] <eroomde> it's probably among the better places on the net to learn pcb layout (with a project in mind)
[08:40] <dsockwell> yeah
[08:41] <dsockwell> what mcus do people generally use?
[08:41] <dsockwell> for custom pcb flights
[08:41] <dsockwell> do y'all have a wiki with the answers to my dumb questions?
[08:41] <craag> !wiki microcontrollers
[08:41] <SpacenearUS> 03craag: Wiki page 03selecting_microcontrollers - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:selecting_microcontrollers
[08:41] <fsphil> lol
[08:41] <fsphil> it has EVERYTHING
[08:41] <dsockwell> it's even in the topic
[08:41] <dsockwell> how about that
[08:41] <dsockwell> except
[08:42] <eroomde> it's hard to navigate (the wiki) but it has a huge amount
[08:42] <eroomde> just loose yourself in it for a few hrs with a coffee
[08:42] <dsockwell> now i kind of want to drill speedholes in my pi
[08:42] <eroomde> you'll find random projects from 2007 that are still fascinating by today's standards but just died for whatever reason
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[08:42] <dsockwell> what eda suite do people use?
[08:42] <eroomde> high altitude gliders or whatever
[08:42] <eroomde> eagle and kicad and probably the most popular on here
[08:42] <eroomde> in descending order
[08:42] <dsockwell> i found myself using gead
[08:42] <dsockwell> er
[08:42] <dsockwell> geda
[08:43] <dsockwell> but i hear kicad has made some progress since then
[08:43] <eroomde> yeah it seems to have the foss mindshare
[08:43] <dsockwell> i kind of lost interest when the Pi dropped and i had no more incentive to make my own SBC
[08:44] <eroomde> eagle is poplar in hobby and open hardware despite being non-free (as in libre) because there is a free version (as in beer)
[08:44] <eroomde> limited to two layers and 100mm x 80mm
[08:44] <eroomde> which should be fine for a hab flight computer
[08:44] <dsockwell> yeah
[08:44] <dsockwell> i tried to use eagle last month
[08:45] <dsockwell> idk if i was out of practice or what but i hated it
[08:45] <dsockwell> i should probably judge the licensed version though
[08:45] <sq5kvs> kicad is ok but has some frustrating bugs
[08:47] <sq5kvs> and, belive or not, I have never used autorouter - it's a waste of time
[08:48] <dsockwell> i found it helped to visualize
[08:48] <dsockwell> when i was first starting
[08:48] <dsockwell> maybe there are really great autorouters out there
[08:49] <UpuWork> dsockwell Hate is the first step on the way to understanding Eagle
[08:49] <eroomde> :)
[08:49] <UpuWork> and never use autorouter for hab stuff
[08:49] <adamgreig> i recommend kicad
[08:50] <UpuWork> Come to the conference
[08:50] <dsockwell> sprites will see it and laugh?
[08:50] <dsockwell> i think it's pretty far
[08:50] <UpuWork> I'm going to show you how to design a tracker in Eagle
[08:50] <adamgreig> never use autorouter full stop, unless you have an awful lot of money and computer power and work for a serious company
[08:50] <dsockwell> for me to go
[08:50] <adamgreig> kicad is really nice these days
[08:50] <eroomde> fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to understanding polygon ranks in copper fills
[08:50] <UpuWork> lol
[08:50] <adamgreig> if you haven't already gone through learning eagle i would seriously not bother
[08:50] <infaddic_> i was totally new to Eagle. a few days of pain to learn how their control system worked and now i love it.
[08:50] <adamgreig> gEDA is viable too
[08:50] <UpuWork> probably agree with adamgreig on that
[08:50] <UpuWork> thats step two infaddic_
[08:51] <UpuWork> the "thinking its ok"
[08:51] <adamgreig> stockholm syndrome infaddic_ :(
[08:51] <adamgreig> you shoulda used kicad
[08:51] <UpuWork> which leads to frustration and sadness
[08:51] <infaddic_> ha!
[08:51] Nick change: infaddic_ -> infaddict
[08:51] <infaddict> i'm sure there are several alternative (some better some worse). not even sure why i chose it, likely because i found a ton of eagle libs for my parts first.
[08:52] <eroomde> that's its strength
[08:52] <adamgreig> yea but that's like scraping dog mess off the ground and eating it because it's not literally poison and hey it was right there in front of you
[08:52] <infaddict> but i totally agree with above comments on designing your own PCB. good fun and great learning experience.
[08:53] <adamgreig> doesn't mean it's a good idea
[08:53] <eroomde> lots of libraries and tutorials and mindshare and general benefits of ebing an incumbant in this sector
[08:53] <infaddict> out of my whole flight prep, the PCB design and testing was probably > 50%
[08:54] <HB9RSU_> @daveake does the new software suport the readout of the time from the GPS now? Because the PI still has no RTC... I made a python prog once for that, but it's probably easier to have that feature in the tracker.c
[08:55] <daveake> You mean GPS --> system time? No
[08:55] <HB9RSU_> yep
[08:55] <HB9RSU_> :-(
[08:55] <daveake> Forgot about that one :)
[08:56] <infaddict> adamgreig: i will check out kicad after your revolting dog turd analogy ;-)
[08:58] <eroomde> i will try something in kicad soon
[08:58] <eroomde> there seem to be osx binaries now
[08:59] <eroomde> i have something in mind for it
[08:59] <HB9RSU_> so, I officially deposit a feature request ;-)
[08:59] <daveake> already added to the list :)
[09:00] <HB9RSU_> tnx
[09:00] <infaddict> ah if there was no OSX version it'd be off my list immediately
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[09:04] <dsockwell> what is the funniest payload you guys have seen
[09:04] <dsockwell> someone told me they thought they should hijack bluetooth vibrators
[09:04] <dsockwell> and i told them they needed an airship
[09:04] <dsockwell> because every evil scheme deserves an airship
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[09:05] <dsockwell> i'm not necessarily going to do that
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[09:05] <dsockwell> but have there been many comedy payloads?
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[09:09] <adamgreig> infaddict: works every time ;)
[09:10] <eroomde> dsockwell: well, there's a sort of annoying but inevitable strain of gimmick flights
[09:10] <eroomde> of which we've all been guilty
[09:10] <UpuWork> stain ?
[09:10] <eroomde> flying random crap
[09:11] <eroomde> strain
[09:12] <infaddict> not funny, but very creative, daveake flew a tardis
[09:12] <daveake> That was going to be an Apollo capsule, but a box is easier :)
[09:12] <dsockwell> hmmm
[09:13] <eroomde> spirits (in drink sense) go up sometimes
[09:13] <eroomde> whisky, port (space port har har)
[09:13] <infaddict> bananas, ashes, pictures, cuddly toys
[09:14] <infaddict> my local curry restaurant wanted me to fly one of their poppadoms after hearing of my venture
[09:14] <craag> dropping cuddly toys
[09:14] <craag> lol a poppadom might be a frist
[09:14] <craag> *first
[09:15] <infaddict> naan in space
[09:15] <dsockwell> rocket NAAAAAAAN
[09:15] <infaddict> *near space (for the pedants)
[09:15] <sq5kvs> hm :)
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[09:16] <sq5kvs> maybe we should catch some air from high altitudes and sell for a heavy money as "air from space" :D
[09:17] <sq5kvs> its' a cool idea I think
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[09:18] <craag> you'll have fun getting any significant quantity of it down ;)
[09:18] <dsockwell> yes but if you dilute it
[09:18] <eroomde> homeopathic space air
[09:18] <dsockwell> i want a cut please
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[09:19] <sq5kvs> homeopatic! Sure!
[09:19] <sq5kvs> with some micrometeorities,
[09:19] <sq5kvs> micro micro micro.. homeopatic
[09:19] <sq5kvs> one per 10^32 :D
[09:19] <sq5kvs> g/m3 , hah
[09:19] <dsockwell> hm
[09:20] <dsockwell> would the canopy of a balloon work as a reflector for collecting signals from the ground?
[09:20] <dsockwell> if coated properly
[09:20] <craag> 'collecting'?
[09:21] <craag> balloons have been used to reflect signals from the ground
[09:21] <dsockwell> like a giant downward-facing satellite dish
[09:21] <eroomde> yeah probably
[09:21] <dsockwell> so the payload can receive your bluetooth signals
[09:21] <eroomde> it wouldn;t have a focus point
[09:21] <sq5kvs> HAB scattering :)
[09:21] <eroomde> more of a focal region
[09:21] <eroomde> but it'd be better than a slap in the face with a wet fish
[09:21] <eroomde> the question is more why
[09:22] <dsockwell> well there are ethical questions about hijacking bluetooth, uh, underpants
[09:22] <dsockwell> but maybe i could count them
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[09:22] <eroomde> i'm not sure bluetooth is that exciting a thing to hack?
[09:23] <gonzo__> hemispherical dishes still have gain, but they can be steered to some extent, bu moving the focus. (Not that you could realsitically do that on a HAB, but interesting anyway)
[09:23] <craag> at bluetooth frequency you'd have a very narrow beamwidth, and that beam on the ground would be moving around a lot!
[09:23] <dsockwell> only need one packet to see the MAC
[09:24] <craag> so MAC harvesting?
[09:24] <dsockwell> yeah, do a device survey
[09:24] <gonzo__> I have a feeling that the aricebo dish is hemispharical
[09:24] <craag> Might be interesting
[09:24] <gonzo__> war-habbing
[09:24] <craag> You will get people going up in arms about privacy
[09:25] <sq5kvs> maybe qubical reflector
[09:25] <craag> (I do wifi mac address stuff for work sometimes)
[09:25] <dsockwell> yes, well, the balloon flew sideways too
[09:25] <eroomde> i'd probably just loft a mesh dish
[09:25] <dsockwell> if the media asks
[09:25] <gonzo__> a down pointing helical may be easier to fabricate
[09:25] <dsockwell> possibly
[09:25] <dsockwell> i had thought about just lofting a dish
[09:26] <craag> YOu could do a foil-coated polystyrene dish
[09:26] <dsockwell> but anything light enough would be deformed by the wind
[09:26] <dsockwell> or too small
[09:27] <craag> It'd be light, rigid, and soft on landing too
[09:27] <gonzo__> a 10-15trun helix is going to be pretty compact and useful gain
[09:27] <sq5kvs> yea
[09:27] <sq5kvs> like this http://physics.umd.edu/deptinfo/facilities/lecdem/services/avmats/slides/L2.%20PLANE%20MIRRORS/L2%20Corner%20Reflector%20Array%20in%20Lab.jpg
[09:27] <sq5kvs> You can do this (for wifi wavelenght's ) alu foil :)
[09:28] <dsockwell> i wonder if i know anyone who has a white cat
[09:28] <dsockwell> not to fly
[09:29] <dsockwell> but to sit at home, on skype with the flight team, and sit in a chair and stroke the cat
[09:30] <dsockwell> could be a fun next-summer thing
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[09:30] <gonzo__> (I'm up for flying cats!)
[09:33] <dsockwell> you're a monster, gonzo
[09:34] <sq5kvs> I like ferrets
[09:34] <sq5kvs> but ,yes, cat better for high altitude :)
[09:39] <sq5kvs> it's a extraordinary example of flying ferret http://fred.photos.pl/bida/.private/kazik_minio/IMG_0212.jpg
[09:39] <gonzo__> I wonder what alt you would need for a cat to rerach terminal velocity? As they often fall from high rise blocks and survive
[09:40] <dsockwell> i'd be concerned about the elements
[09:40] <sq5kvs> "terminal "sound bad.
[09:41] <dsockwell> what's the terminal velocity of a spherical catsicle
[09:41] <gonzo__> there was a balistic squirel thing on YT a while ago. A bungie system from the guy's paggoda, remote controled to launch them into the negbouring forrest
[09:41] <dsockwell> i knew someone who claimed to know someone
[09:41] <dsockwell> who built a compressed-air cannon
[09:41] <dsockwell> for mice
[09:42] <dsockwell> the mice would walk up a pipe to eat the bait
[09:42] <dsockwell> and then be fired off to wherever mice go
[09:42] <dsockwell> with compressed air
[09:42] <gonzo__> persecuting the wildlife, is what every school summer holday was for
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[09:44] <SP3OSJ> habhub
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[09:44] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
[09:44] <sq5kvs> Hi Arthur
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[10:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03HB9FDK-11 after 0313 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9FDK-11
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[11:02] <infaddict> ping michemto
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[11:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 030x06 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0x06
[11:24] <infaddict> ok guys, recommendations for HD video camera for HAB launch. Usual requirements: 3hrs HD video, work at low temp etc.
[11:25] <mattbrejza> for the price, 808 #16 is pretty good
[11:25] <mattbrejza> more of a secondary video camera though
[11:25] <mattbrejza> or to capture an alternate view
[11:27] <infaddict> thx mattbrejza - never heard of them will look them up
[11:27] <mattbrejza> £30 from ebay
[11:27] <infaddict> yer good value for a camera pointing up at balloon or down etc
[11:27] <craag> Check the video format when you get it!
[11:28] <craag> I had 2x 808 #16 sold to me mislabeled
[11:28] <mattbrejza> tbh, if i was gonna do another launch from scratch, i think really what you want is a nice stills camera, then a video camera to capture stuff like launch/burst/landing
[11:28] <craag> were actually mjpeg, and rather rubbbish
[11:28] <mattbrejza> so actually the quality of the video camera isnt too important
[11:28] <infaddict> mmm i'd actually thought the opposite and thought i can get good stills from HD video anyway
[11:28] <mattbrejza> as all you end up doing with the video camera is taking stills
[11:29] <mattbrejza> so might as well just use a stills camera
[11:29] <infaddict> i did enjoy the limited video i got from my launch. the movement and sound added something i thought. but agree stills are also very good.
[11:29] <mattbrejza> you can get good stills from a hd camera, but depends how much money you have
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[11:30] <chimpusmaximus> i'm starting to lean the way of stills as unless you have good stability i get a bit sick of the movement.
[11:30] <craag> cheap stills camera will often cope better with glare and such than a more expensive video camera
[11:31] <infaddict> my cheap stills didnt cope at all well with water
[11:31] <mattbrejza> also no silly fisheye lens
[11:31] <infaddict> but thats an unusal circumstance
[11:32] <craag> +1 for lack of fisheye
[11:32] <chimpusmaximus> Still plan on a sony RX100 this year, figured out power and also remote trigger that will focus and then take photo
[11:32] <craag> it's nice to see some undistorted images sometimes :)
[11:32] <daveake> I quite like the Kodak Zx1 - cheap on ebay / no fisheye / reliable / runs on Lithium AAs
[11:32] <infaddict> i know the usual advice is no case/cover due to moisture etc. anyone ever tried the GoPro covers that come with camera? they appear to be extremely tight to the body/lense with almost no air gaps.
[11:32] <mattbrejza> https://goo.gl/photos/dGbYonN9czCSKuxc8
[11:33] <mattbrejza> thats a stills + video camera in there
[11:33] <infaddict> and are fully waterproof
[11:33] <UpuWork> ghettoe battery holder
[11:33] <craag> infaddict: Those are the cases we mean.
[11:33] <daveake> you don't need waterproof; just don't launch in a downpour :-)
[11:34] <mattbrejza> thats what happens when hobbycraft no longer sell square boxes
[11:34] <dsockwell> actually condensation would be an issue when descending
[11:34] <infaddict> daveake: true, my issues were caused by launch rain and not moisture in the payload box or through clouds
[11:35] <infaddict> kodak zx1 is interesting. only 780p but fully waterproof and small.
[11:38] <daveake> The best quality video camera I've used is this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/cameras/dp/B00JF58M2O/ref=sr_1_13?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1435923489&sr=1-13
[11:38] <sq5kvs> waterproof means that water can leak from inside
[11:39] <sq5kvs> s/can/can't
[11:39] <daveake> It has o-rings and rubber covers; it's plenty good enough for HAB
[11:39] <daveake> ^ Kodak
[11:41] <sq5kvs> hmm
[11:42] <sq5kvs> 180L
[11:45] <sq5kvs> hm hm
[11:46] <sq5kvs> this kodac is heavy
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[12:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03V-1 C_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V-1%20C_chase
[12:20] <infaddict> daveake: never seen that Panasonic HX before. interesting concept to put he lense on a stalk for various uses.
[12:21] <daveake> yes, nice to use like that
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[12:21] <daveake> put the big bit inside the case, with extra battery, and put the lens bit wherever you need it
[12:21] <infaddict> guessing you could even put lense outside of payload
[12:21] <infaddict> snap
[12:22] <daveake> used it on this one http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1669
[12:23] <eroomde> what did you think of the replay XD?
[12:24] <daveake> Has some nice features but picture quality isn't as good as the latest gopro
[12:24] <daveake> Also no screen so you can't check the view without removing the card
[12:25] <infaddict> based on my last c*ckup i need definite and clear indication video is working before launch haha
[12:26] <infaddict> that looks like nice sharp HD pics daveake - they are stills from the video right?
[12:26] <daveake> yes
[12:26] <eroomde> what's the smallest decent hd cam you've come across?
[12:27] <eroomde> small or with a long+thin aspect ratio (like reply)
[12:27] <daveake> Probably the old replay models
[12:27] <infaddict> cool view of the Severn estuary in that lost shot
[12:27] <daveake> which are about the size of a finger
[12:27] <infaddict> lost/last
[12:27] <daveake> The later models are a lot fatter
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[12:30] <infaddict> so that Panasonic needed a fairly hefty external battery by the looks of it
[12:31] <daveake> That one was bigger than needed
[12:31] <daveake> It also ran a Pi, and still had plenty of charge left at the end
[12:33] <infaddict> several i've seen are 2 to 2.5 hours which isn't quite enough imhp
[12:34] <infaddict> either storage or battery restricted
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[13:03] <Adam012> Hi All, I'm having trouble with Fl-dlfigi. It won't launch and throws a 0xc0000142 error (I'm on a Windows 8.1 laptop). Any advice (have tried google but no luck yet)?
[13:07] <michal_f> if you managed to run it previously, try deleting preferences dir
[13:07] <michal_f> i don't remember where it sits though
[13:08] <michal_f> C:\Users\michal_f\dl-fldigi.files maybe ?
[13:10] <sq5kvs> hm
[13:10] <sq5kvs> maybe
[13:11] <sq5kvs> hm win8.1
[13:11] <sq5kvs> wait a sec
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[13:12] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[13:12] <Adam012> hello
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[13:16] <sq5kvs> I see, SP3OSJ will launch something early
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[13:23] <jbain> hi, new member here. just a comment on tv type dongles. wsplc.com sell a wideband rtl based dongle that covers 100khz-2ghz. works with various computer setups windows, mac and linux including the raspberry pi.
[13:23] <sq5kvs> on my 8,1 works well
[13:24] <sq5kvs> Adam012: on my win8.1 dlfldigi works
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[13:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SUNCH1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SUNCH1
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[13:31] <fsphil> guessing that dongle is just an rtlsdr
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[13:34] <UpuWork> must have something to up convert in it
[13:36] <sq5kvs> eh
[13:36] <sq5kvs> like this guys
[13:36] <sq5kvs> question, and quit
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[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA2RMG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA2RMG-11
[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 036 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
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[14:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LuckyChase_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LuckyChase_chase
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[15:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03V1-A_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=V1-A_chase
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[15:30] <fsphil> oh yea, 100khz
[15:31] <fsphil> heh, with a manual switch
[15:31] <fsphil> radio amateurs, sheesh
[15:31] <fsphil> http://wsplc.com/watson-w-sdrx1-high-performance-sdr-receiver.html
[15:32] <fsphil> repackaged rtlsdr from the sounds of the specs
[15:32] <fsphil> can't find any pictures of inside it
[15:33] <fxmulder> does the rtty telemetry definition mentioned on the ukhas website have a name?
[15:34] <fsphil> typically referred to as the "ukhas standard"
[15:36] <fxmulder> cool
[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SP3OSJ after 036 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SP3OSJ
[15:47] <infaddict> mmm fsphil. suspicious there is no detailed tech specs, nor any photos of PCB or inside etc.
[15:49] <infaddict> no mention of gaps in the freq range eithjer
[15:54] <UpuWork> http://janielectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=18&product_id=109
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[16:12] <fsphil> lol
[16:13] <fsphil> must be a small upconverter
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[16:17] <pjm_> UpuWork: hi, I'm just writing a quick start guide for the airspy SDR, u mind if I put a link in it to the habsupplies LNA's etc ?
[16:34] <Upu> not at all
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[16:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> !track ps-46
[16:36] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Tab: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ps-46
[16:37] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> !track ps-46
[16:37] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-Tab: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ps-46
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[17:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WMSI_HAB after 0321 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WMSI_HAB
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[18:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0TRE-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0TRE-11
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[18:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0TRE_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0TRE_chase
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[18:40] <DL7AD> good evening
[18:40] <DL7AD> is it somehow possible to relocate the balloon symbol on the map?
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[18:43] <DL7AD> lz1dev?
[19:12] <lz1dev> DL7AD: relocate?
[19:12] <DL7AD> the balloon symbol is still in hungary
[19:13] <lz1dev> .whereis dl7ad-11
[19:13] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03DL7AD-11 was over 03Téti, Hungary 10(47.52283,17.40733) at 037437 meters about 0319 hours ago
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[19:14] <lz1dev> right
[19:15] <lz1dev> thats the tracker sending incorrect timestamp
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[19:16] <lz1dev> http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=DL7AD-11
[19:16] <lz1dev> lol
[19:20] <DL4MDW> Here is the background info: https://kt5tk.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/a-floater-lost-in-time/
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[19:21] <lz1dev> .aprs
[19:21] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Tracking via APRS: 03DK0TU-11, 03DL4MDW-11, 03DL4MDW-12, 03DL7AD-11, 03DN4GB-11, 03J43VHF-11, 03K6RPT-11, 03KB1YTY, 03KC3EMR-12, 03KC8UCH-11, 03KD0TRE-11, 03KD2E-12, 03KD5ZPL-11, 03KF4OVF-2, 03KF5PGW-8, 03KF5WYX-11, 03KG5FKB-11, 03LU7AA-11, 03M0RPI-9, 03M0SBU-11, 03OM3BC-11, 03SP3OSJ-12, 03SP9UOB-11, 03SP9UOB-12
[19:21] <DL4MDW> It was sprintf's fault ;)
[19:22] <adamgreig> i like how the . is much lazier than the !
[19:22] <DL7AD> lz1dev: i know. but the question is: can this get corrected?
[19:22] <lz1dev> adamgreig: :)
[19:22] <lz1dev> DL7AD: yep, i've deployed a hotfix
[19:22] <lz1dev> it will ignore your timestamp
[19:22] <lz1dev> from now on
[19:22] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DL7AD-11 after 0319 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[19:22] <lz1dev> ^
[19:23] <DL7AD> lz1dev: thanks :)
[19:24] <lz1dev> .track DL7AD-11
[19:24] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[19:24] Action: DL7AD 's balloon has excessive jumping in gps-altitude
[19:24] <DL7AD> lz1dev: excellent! i couldnt be better
[19:24] <DL7AD> lz1dev: excellent! it couldnt be better!
[19:25] <DL7AD> the bug has been already fixed on the repository for the next time ;)
[19:25] <lz1dev> git push dl7ad-11
[19:26] <DL7AD> rofl.....
[19:27] <lz1dev> .hysplit run dl7ad-11
[19:27] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
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[19:28] <DL7AD> hi thasti1
[19:29] <lz1dev> DL7AD: when did you launch this one?
[19:30] <DL7AD> lz1dev: 2 days ago
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[19:31] <DL7AD> lz1dev: http://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/DL7AD-11
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[19:31] <lz1dev> DL7AD: can you be more precise?
[19:31] <DL7AD> lz1dev: give me a sec
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[19:32] <DL7AD> lz1dev: 2015-07-01 22:02:28
[19:32] <DL7AD> thats the first packet
[19:33] <DL7AD> uhm local time
[19:34] <DL7AD> what a mess :D http://puu.sh/iM9Tm/80f1a109bb.jpg
[19:41] <lz1dev> DL7AD: why are you not sending the telemetry as part the comment?
[19:41] <lz1dev> base91 format
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[19:43] <DL7AD> lz1dev: 2 reasons. because i took thomas pecanpico6 arduino code and translated it for the new ARM processor. and i'm still not done with all functions. 2. i never knew that it's possible.
[19:44] <lz1dev> .wiki aprs telemetry
[19:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: No results for your query
[19:44] <lz1dev> .wiki telemetry
[19:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Wiki page 03telemetry (guides:aprs) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:aprs:telemetry
[19:45] <DL7AD> lz1dev: great thanks. i will consider this.
[19:49] <DL7AD> lz1dev: is it somehow possible at the habhub network atm to transmit log messages in the comment field?
[19:50] <lz1dev> 7128671
[19:50] <lz1dev> DL7AD: just transmit them as normal transmission
[19:50] <lz1dev> we don't drop packets out of order
[19:51] <DL7AD> lz1dev: thats an idea
[19:51] <lz1dev> as long as your timestamp is correct
[19:51] <lz1dev> that will be used to order them
[19:52] <lz1dev> thats how Bs did it
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[19:52] <thasti1> evening DL7AD
[19:52] <DL7AD> hi thasti1 :)
[19:53] <DL7AD> thasti1: got your mail but im only able to receive in west direction
[19:53] <DL7AD> 200-20°
[19:53] <DL7AD> thasti1: but what will be the flight direction tomorrow?
[19:54] <thasti1> hmm, balloon seems to go south-eastwards anyway so you might not be in range for too long
[19:54] <DL7AD> thasti1: whats the configuration? solar?
[19:54] <thasti1> lithium AA
[19:55] <thasti1> should last abt. 70 hours
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[20:06] <DL7AD> thasti1: ah cool
[20:14] <thasti1> hope to have some trackers later on =/
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[20:38] <lz1dev> DL7AD: i've reimported all your packets
[20:38] <lz1dev> should look ok on the tracker now
[20:38] <DL7AD> yes looks good
[20:39] <lz1dev> just hit refresh
[20:39] <DL7AD> just this packet could be deleted: 2015-07-01 22:51:07
[20:39] <DL7AD> but not neccesarly
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[20:40] <DL7AD> there are some bad gps positions
[20:40] <lz1dev> the altitude spikes?
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[22:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC2DIJ-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC2DIJ-1
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[22:07] <Laurenceb_> PS-46 going for double circumnavigation
[22:08] <Laurenceb_> the hysplit has a bug at the dateline
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[22:13] <Laurenceb_> wow E50W
[22:13] <Laurenceb_> that looks a bit remote
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[22:28] <SA6BSS> Laurenceb_: like the looks of that island, its just a circle, they are living on the edge :)
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[22:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
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