highaltitude.log.20150627

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[00:27] <Laurenceb__> PS-46 hysplit finally getting more sane
[00:27] <Laurenceb__> many NOAA visited the habhub
[00:31] <SpeedEvil> you mean there is trafic from the NOAA?
[00:31] <SpeedEvil> neat
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[00:35] <lz1dev> wut
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[01:01] <Laurenceb__> no
[01:01] <Laurenceb__> I was being ironic
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[05:44] <Reb-SM3ULC> morrn
[05:49] <x-f> morning
[05:49] <x-f> Reb-SM3ULC, Vaizki, are you aware of today's and tomorrow's launches in Estonia?
[06:16] <SA6BSS> x-f: I have told Reb so he is aware of it
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[06:24] <x-f> good
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[06:24] <x-f> will you give it a try yourself too, SA6BSS?
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[06:34] <ES5TF> Good morning!
[06:35] <es5nhc> [Allo Allo reference]Gud moaning![/Allo Allo reference]
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[06:53] <es5nhc> Because of frequency drift concerns I probably just have SDR monitoring the spectrum - example - http://tarmotanilsoo.com/ohupall.png
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[07:08] <ES5TF> Maybe anyone knows here - is there a simple way to put a cross-band voice repeater on balloon?
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[07:17] <SA6BSS> x-f: it will unfortaly be way out of may range by at least 150-200km
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[07:20] <garymortimer> are sunchasers times wrong....
[07:21] <garymortimer> Great place to fly from but poor coverage from trackers until high I guess. I hope they will be feeding the system live at the start
[07:21] <SA6BSS> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/Zxtvzy9ip4o
[07:23] <jcoxon> Wind much stronger than predicted. GPS disabled by a rough launch. Relying on secondary tracking on landing.
[07:23] <garymortimer> thanks
[07:23] <daveake> They tweeted that their radio tracker failed at launch
[07:23] <jcoxon> from a tweet
[07:23] <daveake> too slow :)
[07:23] <daveake> (me)
[07:24] <garymortimer> Oh dear thats a shame
[07:24] <jcoxon> daveake, i feel we have just confused everyone more (though i understand)
[07:24] <garymortimer> I guess they will also suffer from folks not being awake to help
[07:25] <jcoxon> indeed
[07:25] <jcoxon> though people will get up for flights
[07:25] <jcoxon> especially in the early long duration flights
[07:25] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EES after 0321 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EES
[07:27] Nick change: Upu_ -> Upu
[07:27] <daveake> Last upload froms unch1 was at 21:55 yesterday
[07:27] <daveake> So presumably no 3G at the launch site either
[07:27] <garymortimer> I see the twitter feed now, thanks. Difficult terrain to drive through small roads many turns so it would be a difficult retrieve. Think I would have folks in England waiting
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[07:31] <garymortimer> I guess with the lack of new tweets they did'nt find it via secondary means
[07:31] <jcoxon> its not a great sign
[07:31] <jcoxon> that said social media is hte last thing to be updated
[07:32] <garymortimer> true
[07:36] <daveake> Wales isn't the best place for GSM or receiving a grounded payload
[07:44] <daveake> Tweet - "Made contact with payload - currently en route to collect (we hope!)"
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[07:51] <infaddict_mob> just had a call from a pilot asking for info on my launch. he's planning a light aircraft flight. somebody actually reads the NOTAMs.
[07:52] <daveake> Yeah that's common
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[07:53] <DL1SGP> good morning folks
[07:53] <daveake> 2 or 3 times I've had a call before I've received the permission email
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[07:54] <infaddict_mob> I did till him it's likely 9am but could be delayed. today's predictions show that after lunch would give a better landing location.
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[07:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SCHEM - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SCHEM
[07:59] <garymortimer> Very lovely country to be driving through up there for that retrieve in Wales
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[08:00] <Vaizki> Morning
[08:00] <DL1SGP> good morning Vaizki
[08:00] <DL1SGP> yeah I agree, especially if weather is fine garymortimer :-)
[08:02] <garymortimer> I see they have two cell phones http://horizon.qmgs.walsall.sch.uk/index.html#payloadtour
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[08:02] <Vaizki> I don't have an antenna here at the island to track schem
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[08:03] <Vaizki> Should have brought something
[08:03] <PE2BZ> !flights
[08:03] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03BC04S 434.800 MHz 100/850 7N2 10(93dc), 03Sun Chaser 1 10(5ea9), 03StratosChem #2 launch 10(b00e), 03EGGSPLORER-DX 10(3f8d), 03SP3OSJ 437.7MHz 100/470/7n2 10(fb83)
[08:03] <x-f> you need just a wire to make one ;)
[08:03] <DL1SGP> heel goeden morgen PE2BZ
[08:03] <Vaizki> I might have an old boat vhf antenna...
[08:03] <PE2BZ> DL1SGP Eveneens een hele "Gute morgen"
[08:03] <DL1SGP> bedankt :)
[08:04] <PE2BZ> Ken jij toevallig de fskdem software die straks voor Karlsruhe gebruikt gaat worden ?
[08:04] <DL1SGP> voor de radiosonde ?
[08:04] <PE2BZ> Klopt
[08:06] <PE2BZ> Ik zoek opties om de sound input niet van de line in maar van één van de virtual audio inputs van de SDR te krijgen.
[08:06] <PE2BZ> @group: do we have to use English ? No problem for me to switch to english
[08:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03jordan_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=jordan_chase
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[08:07] <DL1SGP> PE2BZ: will contact you directly
[08:07] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
[08:07] <DL1SGP> Hi Tom
[08:08] <x-f> that's Artur
[08:09] <DL1SGP> oops :P
[08:09] <DL1SGP> keep confusing them :P
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[08:09] <DL1SGP> Hi Arthur
[08:09] <MikkMihkel> SCHEM launch will be exactly at 9.00 with 15min window.
[08:10] <MikkMihkel> Anyone from latvia, lithuania, finland or estonia here?
[08:10] <MikkMihkel> russian guys?
[08:10] <x-f> you said it will be 10am local time :)
[08:10] <x-f> is that 9am in UTC?
[08:10] <DL1SGP> PE2BZ: I contacted you through direct message, you should see an additional tab having opened which might be blinking and showing my nickname
[08:11] <SP3OSJ> Hi There is my balloon in the history telemetry. Why? http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/722ce4c3b5300edac98017612fdb8305#g
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[08:16] <ES5TF> Kristaps, 10-13 local time ;-)
[08:17] <x-f> ISH zone
[08:18] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PYSY after 0314 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSY
[08:19] <x-f> SP3OSJ, i don't know yet, but i'm looking into it
[08:20] <SP3OSJ> OK this is important because I need to know how solar works
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[08:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LAASE-C - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=LAASE-C
[08:36] <MikkMihkel> @x-f its 12 estonian time, so Latvian also...
[08:37] <MikkMihkel> Anyway we will postpone it approx 30min .
[08:39] Action: x-f sighs.
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[08:54] <Tramvai> Hi. I've made another flight document for our tomorrow's launch. Could someone look it over and approve it please? c60c84ff5ac60cbedcf74071e43bf5a5
[08:56] <x-f> SP3OSJ, fixed. do you want me to delete the old data before this flight started?
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[09:08] <SP3OSJ> Yes of course please delete.
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[09:10] <ES5TF> SP3OSJ what is your payload?
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[09:15] <SP3OSJ> 24grams - tracker and 26grams baloon (silver 90cm)
[09:16] <ES5TF> Hmm, ok
[09:16] <ES5TF> We heard quite strong signal on 434.075, spectrum of that resembled FM with some digital signal
[09:17] <ES5TF> I was wondering if it could be a nearby flight over some strange propagation mode
[09:17] <ES5TF> there were clearly visible feedings etc
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[09:21] <ES5TF> Mihkel, how are you doing?
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[09:23] <SP3OSJ> My freq is: 437.700
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[09:26] <x-f> SP3OSJ, wiped the old data
[09:27] <SP3OSJ> x-f OK no problem!
[09:27] <SP3OSJ> thanks
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[09:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N2_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N2_chase
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[09:31] <DL1SGP> karlsruhe balloon is being prepared for launch as it seems
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[09:42] <PE2G> Guten Morgen DL1SGP
[09:43] <DL1SGP> heel goeden dag PE2G
[09:43] <DL1SGP> Karlsruhe Balloon has been launched
[09:43] <DL1SGP> http://dl6iak.etonlein.de/dp7x/
[09:45] <PE2G> Tnx. The map doesn seem to show actual rx distances
[09:45] <DL1SGP> map?
[09:45] <PE2G> http://dbts.dhbw-karlsruhe.de/
[09:46] <DL1SGP> ah
[09:46] <PE2G> I can´t receive it yet
[09:46] <PE2G> But my rx distance is showing
[09:47] <DL1SGP> same
[09:49] <PE2G> DL1SGP: Is there a dedicated IRC chanel for this flight?
[09:50] <DL1SGP> I do not think so PE2G
[09:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TROUPYS_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TROUPYS_chase
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[09:51] <x-f> looks like SCHEM finally launched
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[09:56] <ES5TF> Signal at ES5EC is the best that dl-fldigi can show ;-)
[09:57] <ES5TF> 31 dB SNR
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[09:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=car_chase
[10:03] <marcis_> Hi! What is actual frequency of SCHEM?
[10:04] <x-f> 434.078.5
[10:05] <marcis_> thanks! Hear it already ;)
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[10:11] <ES5TF> Great setup at YL1VA, distance is quite large and balloon barely above the horizon
[10:12] <ES5TF> but good reception
[10:12] <ES5TF> . o O ( I wonder if they use their 32-meter parabolic dish ;-) )
[10:13] <PE2G> DL1SGP: If a sation is showing data in the third column, it´s actually receiving, it seems.
[10:15] <PE2G> station*
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[10:16] <DL1SGP> ja PE2G maybe the audio offset in Hz
[10:16] <DL1SGP> moin Sven
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[10:17] <DL1SGP> or soemthing like that... whatever hehe
[10:17] <DL7AD> hi felix ;)
[10:18] <DL1SGP> :)
[10:18] Nick change: Hazza -> Haxxa
[10:18] <PE2G> Gerade entdeckt dass der rote Punkt der Ballon ist...
[10:20] <x-f> how much does the foliage affect 70cm signal?
[10:21] <DL1SGP> heh PE2G the map interface is not entirely errr modern :P I would say
[10:21] <PE2G> ;)
[10:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03roger_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=roger_chase
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[10:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03jaksschem_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=jaksschem_chase
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[10:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03emilstratos_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=emilstratos_chase
[10:31] <x-f> one balloon, four chase cars
[10:31] <Darkside> always good to have backup
[10:31] <Darkside> also chasing is good fun
[10:31] <jcoxon> i haven't chased in years :-)
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[10:34] <garymortimer> From twitter We can hear the beacon! Closing in on #sunchaser
[10:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Blizzardfoto_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Blizzardfoto_chase
[10:37] <x-f> five :)
[10:44] <ES5TF> Students having fun :-)
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[10:45] <x-f> is this just something on my side or do you too see that SCHEM's signal sometimes becomes wobbly? http://i.imgur.com/k2SXBws.png
[10:49] <ES5TF> Yes, it wobbles and also the strength is changing
[10:49] <ES5TF> Could it be that the baloon is rotating?
[10:50] <ES5TF> hmm.. I'm quite close too, ca 30 km, elevation close to 40 degrees
[10:50] <fsphil> I believe that's temperature changes
[10:50] <ES5TF> well
[10:50] <ES5TF> the period is few seconds
[10:50] <fsphil> or voltage variations in the power supply
[10:50] <x-f> rotating could explain fading
[10:50] <ES5TF> too fast for period change
[10:51] <ES5TF> hmm
[10:51] <x-f> thanks, ES5TF
[10:51] Action: x-f calms down.
[10:51] <fsphil> or it's your computer and radio about to explode
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[10:52] <ES5TF> ;)
[10:52] <x-f> :|
[10:53] <DL1SGP> hi kevin
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[10:54] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[10:56] <PE2G> DL1SGP: No updates on the DBTS Server map anymore.
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[10:59] <DL1SGP> yes last signal more than 30 mins ago PE2G
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[11:01] <j0nnymac> Hey there folks
[11:01] <DL1SGP> hi j0nnymac
[11:01] <j0nnymac> just wanted to say
[11:01] <j0nnymac> THANK YOU!!!! :)
[11:01] <j0nnymac> Our Launch was a real success
[11:02] <j0nnymac> thanks to you guys
[11:02] <ES5TF> Hmm, SCHEM was captured @20m altitude using 400mm telephoto lens :)
[11:03] <j0nnymac> really wanted to thank adamgreig
[11:03] <j0nnymac> and his buddy
[11:03] <j0nnymac> for helping us out on the launch day
[11:04] <j0nnymac> we got a blog with pics in too
[11:04] <j0nnymac> https://developer.ibm.com/messaging/2015/06/26/messaging-at-the-edge-of-space-launch-day/
[11:04] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
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[11:06] <DL1SGP> new data on karlsruhe launch PE2G
[11:07] <PE2G> DL1SGP: Yeah, maybe a server problem?
[11:07] <DL1SGP> possible
[11:08] <PE2G> No rx here yet.
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[11:11] <fsphil> ES5TF: 20 metres isn't that high :)
[11:12] <Lunar_Lander> so much activity over europe
[11:12] <Lunar_Lander> hungary, bulgaria, germany
[11:12] <Lunar_Lander> poland
[11:12] <Lunar_Lander> and estonia
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[11:17] <PE2G> Lunar_Lander: HABing is blooming
[11:17] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
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[11:21] <ES5TF> http://www.obs.ee/~tonis/imgo_schem_20150627_20km_es5pc.jpeg
[11:21] <ES5TF> 20 km :-p
[11:22] <fsphil> nice!
[11:22] <x-f> cool!
[11:22] <x-f> do it now at 30!
[11:22] <fsphil> catch the burst!
[11:23] <ES5TF> Yes!
[11:23] <ES5TF> 30 km catched :)
[11:23] <PE2BZ> ES5TF Nice image !!
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[11:24] <ES5TF> Tnx, another HAM, ES5PC got that - balloon passed his house about over the head..
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[11:25] <fsphil> I've tried once to photo someones flights but couldn't find it
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[11:25] <fsphil> it's not easy
[11:26] <x-f> "current" value jumped up, 30km probably was the set altitude for their experiment
[11:26] <ES5TF> I was told that experiment was meant to be executed during descent - 5x500m from max altitude
[11:27] <x-f> ah, well, i'm just speculating then
[11:30] <ES5TF> Magic 33 km is reached :)
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[11:33] <x-f> coming down!
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[11:33] <ES5TF> ehh
[11:33] <ES5TF> exactly 34.5 km :)
[11:35] <x-f> internal temperature is rather high
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[11:37] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[11:37] <Lunar_Lander> wondering whats inside that makes it hot
[11:37] <Lunar_Lander> ES5TF, well done with the ground photo :)
[11:38] <ES5TF> They used thos chemical heaters for hands
[11:38] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[11:38] <ES5TF> put two of them into the box
[11:38] <Vaizki> thats a mistake
[11:38] <ES5TF> why?
[11:38] <Vaizki> they dont work high up
[11:38] <Vaizki> they need oxygen
[11:38] <ES5TF> they worked very well
[11:38] <ES5TF> no
[11:39] <ES5TF> they are completely sealed plastic bags
[11:39] <ES5TF> filled with some gel-like stuff
[11:39] <Vaizki> oh ok different type then
[11:39] <Vaizki> -26m/s
[11:39] <x-f> i have those, it's some kind of salt that crystalizes
[11:39] <Vaizki> wheeeeee
[11:39] <ES5TF> if you want to activate that, you have to bend a metal "thingie" and bags start forming crystals - and release heat during that process
[11:40] <ES5TF> yeah
[11:40] <ES5TF> typically fishermen and hunters use those in cold climate regions...
[11:41] <Vaizki> oh I live in Finland... I know :)
[11:46] <Vaizki> I will be at the cabin in a while, maybe I can remotely operate home radio to hear schem
[11:46] <x-f> gonna be soft landing
[11:50] <PE2G> DL1SGP: Any signal yet?
[11:50] <Vaizki> 40.8 internal temp
[11:50] <Vaizki> Maybe one warmer would have been enough :)
[11:51] <DL1SGP> I am hearing some faint stuff when turning over to USB which seems to have the same schedule as balloon PE2G but apparently nothing real yet
[11:51] <PE2BZ> PE2G with the HackRf and the Logper I do see packets in the waterfall
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[11:52] <PE2G> Same here. Occasional whistle tones in the background noise
[11:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Vaizki_island_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Vaizki_island_chase
[11:53] <PE2G> Using the 70 cm yagi, which is not ideal, of course
[11:54] <Vaizki> Doh it automatically added chase
[11:54] <Vaizki> That's mean
[11:56] <Vaizki> Can't hear schem... Too low already
[11:58] <ES5TF> Kristaps, it is possible that it comes down in the swamp ;-)
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[11:59] <x-f> still better than a lake in Russia :)
[11:59] <ES5TF> :-p
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[12:00] <x-f> what?
[12:00] <x-f> Estonian payloads are somehow attracted to waters
[12:00] <x-f> it's a fact now :)
[12:05] <KM4FSW> does anyone know a way to contact andy from P-46?
[12:05] <ES5TF> At the moment it seems to avoid waters..
[12:07] <jcoxon> KM4FSW, www.picospace.net
[12:07] <x-f> jaksschem - Last Contact: 0.012607777781 hours ago
[12:08] <KM4FSW> yes i've searched that site cannot find any contact info anyehre
[12:08] <KM4FSW> anywhere
[12:08] <Darkside> heh
[12:08] <Darkside> well his callsing is VK3YT
[12:08] <Darkside> callsign*
[12:08] <Darkside> perhaps you can contact him via qrz.com or similar
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[12:12] <ES5TF> Not that lucky this time
[12:12] <x-f> ES5TF, is that a swapm or a meadow?
[12:13] <ES5TF> field-like
[12:13] <ES5TF> or trees next to that field
[12:13] <ES5TF> Satellite map shows it well
[12:15] <x-f> let's hope for the best
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[12:15] <x-f> i'm off now, see you tomorrow!
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[12:16] <ES5TF> See you, I'm trying to track tomorrow as well
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[12:21] <PE2G> DL1SGP: I think the third column is showing UTC time of reception: hhmmss.00
[12:24] <PE2BZ> PE2G signal is becoming stronger !
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[12:25] <PE2G> PE2BZ: What mode do you use? FM Wide/Narrow
[12:25] <PE2G> ?
[12:26] <PE2BZ> PE2G FM data on the Icom IC-7000
[12:26] <PE2BZ> PE2G 145.201.5 ath both the HackRF and the Icom
[12:27] <PE2G> OK, tnx. That means discriminator out on my rx
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[12:32] <PE2BZ> PE2G I even hear voices between the transmissions (computer generated)
[12:32] <DL1SGP> PE2BZ: positive it has a talker
[12:32] <DL1SGP> at least the website said so
[12:32] <DL1SGP> and btw ik ben terug
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[12:36] <PE2G> I think I´ve little chance of decodes with the UHF yagi. Will try the 1/4 wave mobile
[12:36] <DL1SGP> good luck PE2G
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[12:39] <DL1SGP> thunderstorms out here
[12:39] <PE2G> DL1SGP: Tnx. HB9DWQ at 197 km just had his first successful decode. Alt. nearly 30 km
[12:40] <PE2BZ> HE is reading the temperature and height in voice ?
[12:40] <PE2G> I think not: http://dbts.dhbw-karlsruhe.de/
[12:42] <PE2G> DL2MF at 427 km now, alt 31 km
[12:43] <PE2BZ> Temperatur 17.0 grat -10.0 Grad
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[12:44] <PE2BZ> Ik zou verwachten dat hij sterk genoeg was voor een decodering hier.
[12:44] <PE2G> Yeah, the mode they´re using isnt particularly dx-friendly
[12:45] <PE2G> Or tx power is low
[12:45] <PE2BZ> For the voice I have to switch back from data to NFM.
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[13:00] <DL1SGP> DL2MF decoded as well he is not far from here, just had a QSO with him @ PE2BZ and PE2BZ
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[13:01] <PE2G> You´re right about the voice temp and height readout, PE2BZ
[13:02] <DL1SGP> thunderstorm calmed down
[13:02] <DL1SGP> burst
[13:03] <PE2G> Burst?
[13:03] <DL1SGP> I think so
[13:03] <DL1SGP> right now voice gotta wait for next data
[13:03] <DL1SGP> now data
[13:03] <PE2G> Sounds like burst flutter
[13:04] <DL1SGP> burst confirmed
[13:04] <PE2G> fast descent flutter, I mean
[13:04] <DL1SGP> hmm
[13:05] <DL1SGP> decided not to have bursted :D
[13:05] <PE2G> He
[13:05] <DL1SGP> vspeed green agn
[13:06] <PE2G> I still hear the flutter
[13:06] <PE2G> Must be some other source then
[13:07] <PE2G> It seems to be floating around 33800 m
[13:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Onsight_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Onsight_chase
[13:09] <DL1SGP> fluttery carrier now
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[13:10] <PE2G> Well, I now know that I need a descent yagi for HABs on 2 m. No chance with the 1/4 wave mobile.
[13:10] <DL1SGP> haha
[13:10] <PE2G> A descent yagi for 2 m.
[13:11] <DL1SGP> well a yagi that decodes fine during descent
[13:11] <DL1SGP> is a decent yagi :)
[13:12] <PE2BZ> DL1SGP LOL
[13:13] <PE2BZ> Now somebody keep the balloon up for 10 minutes. My preamp is almost ready....
[13:13] <DL1SGP> you found your pliers :)
[13:14] <Ron_G8FJG> can see the carrier all the time ..seems to have a 20hz warble?...just stopped
[13:15] <PE2BZ> DL1SGP Indeed. Women should not be allowed in the radio shack....
[13:15] <PE2BZ> They "just put thing away" instead of putting them on their place ;-)
[13:16] <Ron_G8FJG> keep a least 10 pairs, you might find 1 if lucky
[13:16] <PE2BZ> Given my reception now I expect the balloon to be much lower as reported 10 minutes ago.
[13:17] <PE2BZ> Hi Ron. With a lot of SDR radio's there was only money left for 1. But next time I use her nail cutter I told her ;-)
[13:17] <eroomde> i'm not sure if that's true of women generally but certainly i've had partners who haven't shared my enthusiasm for something technical and who 'sort' stuff in a way that makes me cry
[13:18] <PE2BZ> If a preamp draws 51 mili amp, could you call it 51 mili pre ampere ?
[13:18] <eroomde> my colleague james is married to an extremely technical person who is keener than he is on making their electronics lab Just So
[13:18] <eroomde> i'm jealous
[13:18] <SpeedEvil> PE2BZ: no
[13:19] <PE2BZ> My wife had the same study as I did. On a different school. However, after 12 years she went into automation, and then in Education. So, know I am automated and educated. Very OT I know.
[13:21] <Ron_G8FJG> eroomde I cleared my shack 2 days ago ..8 bin loads ...it made me cry, but I had to find space for a chair to sit in
[13:21] <eroomde> ouch
[13:21] <eroomde> i'm putting together my home lab now
[13:21] <eroomde> quite enjoyable
[13:22] <PE2G> Karlsruhe showing -14 m/s now
[13:23] <DL1SGP> yeap and altitude down to 13657m
[13:26] <DL1SGP> well rest in pieces karlsruhe balloon, it has been fun :)
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[13:31] <PE2G> I´m off now, read you tomorrow.
[13:31] <Ron_G8FJG> signal into jo01cm just before burst http://i.imgur.com/yF6VDtE.png
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[13:38] <PE2BZ> !flights
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Current flights: 03BC04S 434.800 MHz 100/850 7N2 10(93dc), 03Sun Chaser 1 10(5ea9), 03StratosChem #2 launch 10(b00e), 03EGGSPLORER-DX 10(3f8d), 03SP3OSJ 437.7MHz 100/470/7n2 10(fb83)
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[14:26] <michemto> StratosChem #2 DID IT!
[14:26] <michemto> :) world's first elephant toothpaste @ 30000m
[14:26] <michemto> good landing
[14:26] <michemto> and everything is fine :)
[14:27] <mclane_> congrats to the team!
[14:28] <eroomde> yes
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[14:29] <eroomde> we've all been waiting for that elephant toothpaste altitude record to be set
[14:29] <eroomde> i'm glad it's finally happened
[14:29] <eroomde> tonight we feast
[14:30] <michemto> That irony though :D mission is mission
[14:31] <eroomde> yes only teasing. any successful flight and recovery is worthy of a hearty congrats
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[14:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0DZR-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0DZR-11
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[15:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VE2WMG-11 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE2WMG-11
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[16:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VE6ATV-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VE6ATV-11
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[16:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSYchase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PYSYchase
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[17:15] <garymortimer> the Solar payload was recovered according to twitter from Weston-Under-Lizard one million points for getting to that village
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[17:26] <j0nnymac> hello
[17:27] <chimpusmaximus> Hi
[17:28] <eroomde> greets
[17:29] <Laurenceb_> http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/
[17:30] <Laurenceb_> http://www.reddit.com/r/britishproblems/comments/3batsk/my_chocolate_digestive_was_chocolate_coated_on/
[17:31] <j0nnymac> Hey folks - just wanted to say 'Thanks!!' for all your awesome help
[17:31] <j0nnymac> Our launch was a complete success
[17:31] <SpeedEvil> :)
[17:31] <lz1dev> i didnt help, but no problem
[17:31] <lz1dev> you are welcome
[17:31] <lz1dev> :)
[17:32] <eroomde> well you wrote software they used to track :)
[17:32] <j0nnymac> and no way we could of done it without help from this awesome community
[17:32] <j0nnymac> ha! i guess
[17:32] <lz1dev> eroomde: darn, can't never get credit for doing nothing
[17:33] <j0nnymac> but there is a piccy that you might like
[17:33] <j0nnymac> https://developer.ibm.com/messaging/2015/06/26/messaging-at-the-edge-of-space-launch-day/
[17:33] <j0nnymac> its in this blog post at the end
[17:33] <j0nnymac> our launch has a screen
[17:34] <j0nnymac> and when it landed
[17:34] <j0nnymac> it displayed a message of thanks
[17:34] <j0nnymac> its down the bottom
[17:34] <j0nnymac> before the video
[17:34] <j0nnymac> you'll know it coz there are swirls of green
[17:35] <eroomde> i feel dizzy
[17:35] <j0nnymac> :)
[17:36] <j0nnymac> btw
[17:37] <j0nnymac> when we asked BBC if it was ok to use the TARDIS squeezy toy - they asked about the possibility of doing a launch for them with a TARDIS that they would send
[17:37] <j0nnymac> so i anyone is keen on the possibility of some BBC coverage - shout and ill broker introductions
[17:38] <eroomde> you can suffer the tv rubbish yourself :)
[17:38] <eroomde> it's as exciting as an ingrowing toenail unless you've never done it before
[17:39] <eroomde> in that case, it's exciting until some idiot crew turns up and asks you to re-launch it with a different camera angle after you just let go
[17:39] <eroomde> or insist on launching because they've paid for a crew to turn up even if the winds are bad
[17:39] <eroomde> also tv is generally shit nowadays
[17:39] <eroomde> i'd rather be shot in the head
[17:40] <eroomde> and also as a hab flight it's a massive gimmick
[17:40] <j0nnymac> oh no... really?? im new enough to it, that it sounded exciting
[17:40] <eroomde> .... but don't let any of that put you off if you want to do it!
[17:40] <j0nnymac> ha!!!
[17:40] <j0nnymac> :)
[17:40] <j0nnymac> i did feel a bit inadequate tbh
[17:41] <j0nnymac> as although i sent them a note months ago, they only really got back day before the launch
[17:41] <j0nnymac> and said 'Yes'
[17:41] <eroomde> tv is just a bit fickle
[17:42] <j0nnymac> and that they might use our pics
[17:42] <j0nnymac> and i thought 'yeeeah!'
[17:42] <j0nnymac> but
[17:42] <j0nnymac> they didnt like them
[17:42] <j0nnymac> then they showed me this coffee cup pic
[17:43] <j0nnymac> looked like the entire universe was in the pic
[17:43] <j0nnymac> our pics looked a bit lame by comparison
[17:44] <eroomde> http://www.daveakerman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/A120_cropped-1024x692.png
[17:44] <eroomde> there you go
[17:44] <j0nnymac> yes - i pointed them at Dave
[17:45] <j0nnymac> i think they want an official TARDIS merch toy on display
[17:45] <j0nnymac> they were quite insistant
[17:45] <j0nnymac> insistent
[17:46] <j0nnymac> mind you
[17:46] <eroomde> you can be quite insistant on taking £5k to launch it then :)
[17:46] <j0nnymac> i wonder if that is - looks very real to me
[17:46] <j0nnymac> ha!!!
[17:46] <j0nnymac> i wonder ;)
[17:47] <eroomde> we used to pay for stuff by doing commercial flights
[17:47] <eroomde> (we = undergrads)
[17:47] <j0nnymac> really??
[17:47] <eroomde> one flight could cover staying for a couple of months in summer hols to work on stuff
[17:47] <eroomde> the predictor got written that way
[17:47] <eroomde> yes
[17:47] <j0nnymac> wow!!
[17:47] <j0nnymac> did you get much work?
[17:48] <eroomde> enough
[17:48] <eroomde> we did precisely enough work to pay for what we wanted to do
[17:48] <eroomde> anything more would have been wasting time
[17:48] <eroomde> i am not sure you can charge that much anymore as there are not plenty of people around who will do it for less
[17:48] <eroomde> it pays to be pioneering :p
[17:49] <j0nnymac> thing is - its a fun thing to do - worse ways to make a living thats for sure
[17:49] <j0nnymac> right..
[17:49] <eroomde> i don't think anyone would be making a living with gimmick flights
[17:49] <eroomde> but it might pay for some helium
[17:49] <j0nnymac> i guess its a similar model to Sent into Space
[17:50] <eroomde> dunno
[17:50] <j0nnymac> they do the whole package deal
[17:50] <eroomde> i thought they just sold kits to the unsuspecting
[17:50] <j0nnymac> they do corporate events too now
[17:50] <daveake> should be sentintonearspace
[17:51] <j0nnymac> saw one advertised on there site
[17:51] <daveake> or lostvianearspace
[17:51] <j0nnymac> :)
[17:51] <j0nnymac> yeah... although their comms were good
[17:52] <j0nnymac> had an issue with a kit they sent
[17:52] <eroomde> they use radios now?
[17:52] <daveake> At least my "TARDOS" was the right pantone shade :)
[17:52] <daveake> yeah, but without even a checksum
[17:52] <daveake> s/O/I/
[17:52] <j0nnymac> they seemed genuinely keen to sort out issues
[17:52] <eroomde> all seems a bit unecessary to me
[17:53] <eroomde> especially if you have a team of engineering students
[17:53] <eroomde> i know the cusf guys weren't impressed with the SiS kit
[17:53] <j0nnymac> if you are new to this HAB stuff - it can appear quite overwhelming
[17:53] <j0nnymac> really??
[17:53] <eroomde> really
[17:54] <j0nnymac> aside from the initial non delivery - it seemed ok - but then i have nada to compare it to
[17:55] <eroomde> well you got it back so that's all good
[17:55] <j0nnymac> yes :)
[17:55] <eroomde> i imagine the imperial guys now have the confidence to DIY a payload
[17:55] <j0nnymac> v happy about how it went
[17:56] <j0nnymac> indeed - oh and the IRC chat screenshot made a feature in their final year presentation
[17:56] <eroomde> i'll just point out that a lot of this stuff was invented by undergrads (using rtty, the predictor, habhub generally, and just figuring out how to launch balloons and get them back)
[17:57] <eroomde> so if you just give them an open problem without prescribing a solution then they probably can do it :)
[17:57] <j0nnymac> Laughed out loud at the 'heading north to avoid the shockwave' line
[17:58] <DL1SGP> were ninja goats mentioned as risk factor for HAB projects?
[17:58] <DL1SGP> they should not be missing in any risk assessment :D
[17:59] <j0nnymac> aaah i do believe they were
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[18:01] <eroomde> j0nnymac: so is this possibly an ongoing thing?
[18:01] <eroomde> working the student groups
[18:01] <eroomde> it seems like a jolly good thing
[18:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[18:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:08] <j0nnymac> id very much hope so - i need to convince my masters of the value (the dark side) but i think i have a powerful argument - there is a lot of elegant currency here and wins for all
[18:08] <j0nnymac> the Imperials had a standing ovation at their presentation
[18:09] <j0nnymac> the team before them had the cr*p kicked out of them
[18:10] <j0nnymac> but - for our team - i made sure i was there at the presentation - made sure they let me speak to their awesomeness
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[18:22] <Laurenceb_> http://www.dontclickthis.whatingods.name/black-stereotypes.png
[18:32] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[18:49] <eroomde> j0nnymac: awesome
[18:49] <eroomde> well i hope it cont9inues
[18:49] <eroomde> i saw that andysc liked it
[18:50] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
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[18:52] <Lunar_Lander> habhub is awesome
[18:53] <Lunar_Lander> thanks very much to the people who made it
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[20:06] <richardeoin> Here's an audio recording of a ubseds payload transmitting APRS https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B29poFh9h4GwV2VkSnU5VHB2ZW8/view
[20:07] <richardeoin> if anyone with a TNC and the right setup could check if it decodes reliably that would be very helpful
[20:07] <richardeoin> I've had a look in audacity and I think I've got the pre-emphasis, preamble etc correct but I'm no expert
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[20:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> richardeoin: tried any tools? multimon etc
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[20:33] <richardeoin> Reb-SM3ULC: I've just tried multimon-ng and it decodes fine :)
[20:33] <richardeoin> I had to convert the wav file to mono first
[20:35] <richardeoin> Actually there's 16 packets in that sample, and multimon only decodes about half of them. It varies between 7 and 11 each time I run it
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[21:19] <Laurenceb_> Poes law overload http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2015/jun/10/tim-hunt-old-men-women-controversy-science
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[22:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K4MSU-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K4MSU-11
[22:37] Nick change: Hes_ -> Hes
[22:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight sunch1
[22:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Flight 10(5ea9): 03Sun Chaser 1 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 01:30 from 03Gwynedd, UK 10(52.74308,-3.98879)
[22:54] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !payload sunch1
[22:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Payload 03Sun Chaser 1 10(5ea9) 03$$SUNCH1 - 03Primary - 03434.45 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/550Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[22:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Payload 03Sun Chaser 1 10(5ab2) 03$$SUNCH1 - 03Primary - 03434.45 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/550Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[23:11] <Jc> Hi there
[23:15] <SpeedEvil> hi
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