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[04:23] <MattSR> Hi
[04:23] <MattSR> Is Andy VK3YT in here?
[05:07] <SA6BSS> dont think he ever is
[05:12] <MattSR> bugger
[05:12] <MattSR> I wanted to get more information on how to build and launch these things!
[05:12] <MattSR> I'd love to try a HF balloon, and using a party balloon seems cheap and simple
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[05:14] <SA6BSS> yeah, a lot of us in this channel are very curious about hes hf tracker
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[05:15] <SA6BSS> What I know there is no info about the hardware
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[05:22] <Vaizki> I know he uses the 30 meter band which begs the question.. Are the balloons trailing a 7.5m antenna wire..
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[05:32] <MattSR> Hmm seems he's very very secertive about it all
[05:33] <MattSR> ..secretive..
[05:33] <garymortimer_> I know lots of folks down here are very keen to learn the set up
[05:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EGG1 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EGG1
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[06:06] <MattSR> Is he breaking records?
[06:06] <MattSR> why all the secrecy?
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[06:41] <Vaizki> The public stuff I know of is that the payloads are about 12 grams and use WSPR + JT9 on 10MHz HF, solar power of course
[06:43] <Vaizki> oh and 25mW
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[06:50] <infaddict_mob> morning all
[06:51] <infaddict_mob> can anyone remind me of the edit link for an hourly prediction? tried /edit on end but not working.
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[06:59] <UpuWork> infaddict_mob http://predict.habhub.org/hourly/edit/Woodstock
[06:59] <UpuWork> if you fiddle your figures you could land on Elsworth :)
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[07:26] <Vaizki> morning
[07:27] <Vaizki> btw Upu et al who are working on LoRa trackers: The LoRa Alliance is preparing a catalogue and partner community and would like to include your offerings to provide you with an additional channel to market and of course to show how the LoRaWAN ecosystem is growing. The first release of the catalogue is scheduled for the 9th July at the LoRa Alliance All Member Meeting in Paris, if you would like to be present please let us know or register on the
[07:27] <Vaizki> LoRa Alliance website.
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[07:27] <Vaizki> might be a bit of free publicity for your boards and HAB in general through that
[07:27] <UpuWork> LoRa Alliance \o/
[07:27] <Vaizki> yea I know :)
[07:28] <Vaizki> but someone is giving them money to make waves
[07:29] <Vaizki> You are currently subscribed to TCL MERGE ERROR ( 06/24/2015 14:47:06 ): "invalid command name "list.name" as: vaizki@....
[07:29] <Vaizki> lol
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[07:31] <UpuWork> sorry Vaizki
[07:31] <UpuWork> can't join
[07:31] <UpuWork> they use IoT on their site
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[07:36] <Vaizki> UpuWork, I fully understand
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[07:43] <daveake> Cheers mfa298 :-)
[07:43] <daveake> They uses the wrong shade of blue ...
[07:43] <daveake> ... the Whovians will jump on them for that :-)
[07:43] <Vaizki> might as well do it yourself :)
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[07:46] <daveake> Prussian Blue is the right one ... unsurprisingly if you search, there's information on every aspect of it :-)
[07:47] <UpuWork> nerds will be nerds
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[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX2 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX2
[09:10] <Kalchar> Hello folks
[09:11] <craag> Mornin
[09:11] <sq5kvs> Hi all
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[09:24] <Kalchar> UpuWork: you there?
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[09:29] <UpuWork> hey Kalchar
[09:29] <UpuWork> I'm here
[09:30] <Kalchar> I'm having some trouble with a GPS module and was wondering if you could help me out, or at least try to.
[09:31] <UpuWork> Can give me a try I'm at work so if I'm a little slow on answering apologies in advance
[09:31] <Kalchar> no problem
[09:31] <eroomde> only upu can help with gps modules
[09:32] <eroomde> actually you're free from the responsibilities of commercial support now!
[09:32] <eroomde> yippeeee
[09:32] <UpuWork> yup
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[09:40] <infaddict> Morning all. Can anyone remind me of the edit link to edit an hourly prediction? Thought it was just adding /edit on end but doesnt work.
[09:40] <craag> /edit/xxxx
[09:41] <craag> eg. http://predict.habhub.org/hourly/edit/highfield
[09:41] <UpuWork> [07:59] <UpuWork> infaddict_mob http://predict.habhub.org/hourly/edit/Woodstock
[09:41] <UpuWork> [07:59] <UpuWork> if you fiddle your figures you could land on Elsworth :)
[09:41] <infaddict> aha perfect thanks guys!
[09:41] <infaddict> yer slight change of plan due to CAA
[09:41] <infaddict> moving our launch site NW
[09:41] <infaddict> to avoid a 5am restriction
[09:41] <eroomde> brize?
[09:42] <infaddict> yep v near
[09:42] <infaddict> nr the Rollright stones - hoping the druids give me luck!
[09:42] <infaddict> CAA guy suggested this location to avoid traffic and restrictions
[09:44] <infaddict> doh cant edit lat/long on the hourly - can craag or UpuWork do that if I ping you?
[09:44] <craag> not me
[09:44] <infaddict> or should i ask for brand new one
[09:44] <infaddict> old one can be deleted tbh as heavily restricted site
[09:46] <UpuWork> I can
[09:46] <UpuWork> how far away is it ?
[09:46] <UpuWork> the new site ?
[09:47] <infaddict> about 20km NW
[09:47] <infaddict> i can give u lat long?
[09:47] <infaddict> happy to keep the name if its easier
[09:47] <infaddict> 51.975534N and 1.570814W
[09:48] <UpuWork> name ?
[09:48] <daveake> <infaddict> CAA guy suggested this location to avoid traffic and restrictions
[09:48] <daveake> that's a first
[09:48] <UpuWork> David must be on holiday
[09:48] <daveake> hah
[09:49] <infaddict> UpuWork: Rollright
[09:49] <infaddict> haha it was David, been very good to me so far. Due to wrong e-mail address he only saw my application yesterday yet got right on it and suggested new location.
[09:50] <UpuWork> predict.habhub.org/hourly/Rollright
[09:50] <daveake> you're sure you didn't name-drop me? :p
[09:51] <UpuWork> Sunday is very change
[09:51] <UpuWork> much wind
[09:51] <eroomde> woosh
[09:51] <eroomde> we're firing the engine tomorrow
[09:51] <eroomde> yaysome
[09:51] <UpuWork> super
[09:52] <UpuWork> I'd be launching early
[09:54] <Vaizki> sometimes my twisted sense of Finnish humour is sorely tempted here but I will resist & refrain!
[09:54] <infaddict> thx UpuWork!
[09:54] <infaddict> daveake: didnt name drop you but mentioned UKHAS ;-)
[09:55] <infaddict> good luck with the engine eroomde!
[09:55] <eroomde> he remebered me the other week, even tho i haven't dealt with him for half a decade now
[09:55] <UpuWork> so whats the current plan infaddict ?
[09:55] <UpuWork> launch time ?
[09:55] <eroomde> put in a speculative notam for something just incase
[09:56] <eroomde> infaddict: thanks. we have some bigwigs coming round to see it
[09:56] <infaddict> 9am or before UpuWork
[09:56] <UpuWork> just in case the rocket went up rather than sideway ?
[09:56] <eroomde> had to get a marquee and expensive pastries in and everything
[09:56] <eroomde> UpuWork: no, for a hab believe it or not
[09:56] <UpuWork> wow how old school
[09:56] <eroomde> i know
[09:56] <eroomde> not sure what came over me
[09:57] <infaddict> afk for a while
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[10:04] <Vaizki> http://www.rfspace.com/RFSPACE/CloudSDR_files/CloudSDR_0v1.pdf
[10:04] <Vaizki> hmm interesting
[10:05] <Vaizki> price is $999 preliminary so not cheap but if it does what it says, might be a good seller
[10:06] <Vaizki> upu: warning, the document contains multiple references to cloud but no IoT ;)
[10:07] <UpuWork> cloud==marketing BS for "other peoples equipment"
[10:08] <Vaizki> well not in this case, it just means remotely accessible and operable.. it's a flexible term just like IoT, it can mean whatever you have to sell
[10:17] <Darkside> rfspace's products are quite good
[10:17] <Darkside> high spec i mean
[10:17] <Darkside> not cheap though...
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[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MADHEN_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MADHEN_chase
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[11:21] <DL7AD> good afternoon
[11:21] <Laurenceb> useful http://picospace.net/?p=590
[11:22] <DL7AD> brought my debug display to work for PecanPico6: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwzVllHCGu5FLTAtYmZ3WEVNX3c/view?usp=sharing :)
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[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX8 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX8
[11:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03GKCV3B after 03a month silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GKCV3B
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[11:35] <infaddict> woop CAA permission granted (informally), waiting for official mail
[11:36] <infaddict> predictions also getting better. likely change again tho ;-)
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[12:20] <sq5kvs> aaand..
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[12:55] <sq5kvs> http://www.linear.com/product/LTM9013
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[12:58] <Vaizki> huh 300MHz
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[13:02] <mattbrejza> looks cheap
[13:03] <mattbrejza> actually $92 is cheaper than i was expecting
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[13:09] <Laurenceb> holy shit
[13:09] <Laurenceb> http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/547307
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[13:43] <sq5kvs> yeap
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[20:55] <SpeedEvil> https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacexphotos/19128420045/
[20:55] <SpeedEvil> new recovery barge - Of Course I Still Love You
[20:56] <mattbrejza> new?
[20:57] <mattbrejza> i wonder how damaged the other one was/is
[20:59] <SpeedEvil> Basically very little.
[20:59] <SpeedEvil> And it was returned to the leasor.
[20:59] <SpeedEvil> lessor?
[20:59] <mattbrejza> oh right
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[22:49] <Laurenceb__> oh hell yeah
[22:49] <Laurenceb__> shit just got real
[22:49] <Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/3b3x0v/an_open_message_to_thetravelleremd/
[22:49] <Laurenceb__> I said it was a good time to grab the popcorn
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[22:50] <SpeedEvil> +'d
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[22:52] <Laurenceb__> I should have gone public with my proof of EEStor fraud
[22:53] <SpeedEvil> you mean the 'most of the voltage is across the polymer which will break down' ?
[22:53] <Laurenceb__> not quite that simple
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> ah
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEStor
[22:54] <Laurenceb__> you can search through the patent and find the spoofed equations
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> ' Breakdown voltage strengths of the single-layer samples was approximately 75V/ µm, while that of six-layer sample was approximately 6V/ µm. These results are below earlier claimed voltage strengths of an EEStor EESU, while being roughly in-line with the observed inverse scaling
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> The energy storage density of the samples was also a few orders of magnitude below that required by an EESU having storage equivalent to lithium ion batteries.
[22:54] <Laurenceb__> heh
[22:55] <Laurenceb__> meanwhile supercap research is reaching some interesting levels
[22:55] <dsockwell> all i've learned for sure this year is i should have gone into fringescience fraud
[22:55] <Laurenceb__> heh
[22:56] <Laurenceb__> looks like EMdrive is about to unravel as fraud
[22:56] <dsockwell> says who
[22:56] <dsockwell> that was the one i had my hopes up for
[22:57] <dsockwell> i guess, says the traveler guy and raptor jesus
[22:57] <Laurenceb__> looks like Roger Shawyer is operating sock puppets
[22:57] <Laurenceb__> on multiple forums
[22:58] <Laurenceb__> also his financials have been released, £250k debt
[22:58] <dsockwell> i thought he was widely known as a loon and that the technology was coming through in spite of that
[22:58] <Laurenceb__> and quite a lot of small investors
[22:58] <Laurenceb__> heh
[22:59] <Laurenceb__> he looks more like a skilled snake oil salesman
[23:00] Action: SpeedEvil wants FTL reactionless drive already.
[23:00] Action: SpeedEvil looks at his EE doc smith books.
[23:00] <dsockwell> yeah, well, i hope that if the device does work it's not thrown out when this shawyer guy melts down
[23:01] <dsockwell> not to defend him personally but Pythagoras was an absolute nut
[23:01] <dsockwell> that doesnt mean a^2 + b^2 isn't c^2
[23:01] <SpeedEvil> The device looks quite in principle replicatable.
[23:01] <SpeedEvil> A microwave oven magnetron is quite light, as is the battery to run it, and the power converter though annoying is also not big
[23:02] <Laurenceb__> yeah pity the NSF guys seem to be pretty incompetent
[23:02] <dsockwell> yeah it's pretty much a coffee can and a microwave emitter
[23:02] <Laurenceb__> they can't seem to manage a proper replication
[23:03] <Laurenceb__> but then NSF is full of loons
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb__: On the other hand - they have a lot of pictures of barges.
[23:03] <Laurenceb__> heh
[23:03] <dsockwell> is there a lower size limit for the device
[23:04] <dsockwell> would it be viable as a cubesat?
[23:04] <Laurenceb__> dsockwell is the baby EM drive guy?
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[23:04] <Laurenceb__> https://hackaday.io/project/5596-em-drive/log/18618-teststand-babyemdrive-ready
[23:05] <dsockwell> i wish
[23:05] <SpeedEvil> dsockwell: The problem is that the emdrive calculations if 'legit' lead to absurdities such a ~160MPH low-drag motorbike, with a generator connected to the wheels and an emdrive to push - that is a perpetual motion machine
[23:05] <Laurenceb__> yeah
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[23:06] <dsockwell> oh.
[23:06] <SpeedEvil> - power output is simply force * speed. If force is constant, then at some speed, power out exceeds power in. If it isn't constant with speed, then you have now just invented an aether.
[23:06] <SpeedEvil> Which has all of the problems that it did classically
[23:07] <SpeedEvil> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36326.msg1393575#msg1393575 - discussion of clearly important video footage of the barge
[23:07] <dsockwell> were those the calculations done by the loon Roger Shawyer?
[23:09] <dsockwell> oh i didnt read part of your aether explanation
[23:09] <dsockwell> dammit.
[23:10] <dsockwell> and that's all to say nothing of the cold-fusion kitten and vladimir mars drive groupies
[23:10] <SpeedEvil> http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/04/evaluating-nasas-futuristic-em-drive/ - I think I was thinking of - the 'accurate' simulations by White
[23:11] <SpeedEvil> Do you remember Red Mercury?
[23:11] <dsockwell> i don't think so
[23:11] <Laurenceb__> haha
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> ballotechnics
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> in b4 mossad bed bomb
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[23:16] <dsockwell> well, piss.
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[23:16] <dsockwell> i should have trusted my first instincts, to believe the opposite of any lab report originating in China
[23:17] <SpeedEvil> China isn't the problem unfortunately
[23:20] <dsockwell> I'm not saying that it's China's fault
[23:20] <dsockwell> but the first semi-legit report i heard of the EMDrive was that a lab in China had reproduced the findings
[23:21] <Laurenceb__> its going to be fun whatever happens
[23:21] <SpeedEvil> I would favour the 'it's legit' - but it's not going to happen
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[23:22] <Laurenceb__> but i strongly suspect its all fake
[23:22] <Laurenceb__> most of these things are, but sometimes its quite funny
[23:22] <Laurenceb__> e.g. steorn
[23:22] <Laurenceb__> they were picking up magnetic potential energy in the system
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> quite an interesting effect, but I could identify it within 5 minutes of looking at the raw data once they released it
[23:23] <dsockwell> mm.
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> when they turned it off, parts were re magnetising from random sources
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> then they ran the system and energy was extracts, from people touching the kit, earths magnetic field etc
[23:24] <Laurenceb__> *extracted
[23:24] <Laurenceb__> it was an EM energy harvester, a very inefficient one
[23:26] <dsockwell> well
[23:26] <dsockwell> i suppose popcorn is called for
[23:26] <dsockwell> microwave popcorn, of course
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