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[06:00] <Reb-SM3ULC> morrn
[06:02] <SA6BSS> tja
[06:11] <Vaizki> Eep apparently I spammed Finnish here last night and nobody complained! Sorry...
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[08:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AIRCOR-1 after 0320 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-1
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[08:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX2 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX2
[08:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> We just assumed you weretalking in your sleep ;-)
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[11:05] <LunarWork> hello
[11:06] <infaddict> hey LunarWork
[11:07] <infaddict> so I have the helium cylinder. and the connection doesnt fit any of my air equipment. Oops. Some quick bodging required ;-)
[11:08] <infaddict> all my stuff is PCL. I *think* this ballonium cylinder is CEJN type connection. but nobody can confirm.
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[11:33] <daveake> Who supplied the cylinder? They should have provided a valve.
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[11:42] <infaddict> oh it has 2 valves - one pullback and one bend to fill
[11:42] <infaddict> i just want to switch them out for my own connection
[11:42] <infaddict> so i have alternative involving gaffa tape ;-)
[11:43] <infaddict> Its party balloons who supplied it (via air products distributer)
[11:43] <mattbrejza> i guess these things screw directly into the cylinder and provide a low pressure output?
[11:44] <mattbrejza> you wont wont to connect something directly to the cylinder without a pressure regulator inbetween
[11:44] <infaddict> the ballonium ones have a built in regulator with a separate turning handle to control that
[11:44] <infaddict> so you can turn off the supply using that
[11:44] <mattbrejza> oh right
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[11:45] <infaddict> otherwise it would be pretty scary
[11:45] <infaddict> so the connections supplied are just to control fill and arent regulators
[11:45] <daveake> On the nendy valves, just heat a hose and push it on
[11:45] <daveake> b
[11:46] <daveake> the pullback ones are harder to attach to
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[11:47] <infaddict> yep daveake - even without heating a standard hosepipe fits over the blue bendy plastic tip. so that is defo an option with so gaffa tape.
[11:48] <infaddict> my original plan was to use my trigger inflator onto a nice valve i've built into my fill tube. I think I have the bits I need to make that work. but bendy filer tip is my backup
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[12:32] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[12:33] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
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[12:33] <christopherlee> does any one have a good suggestion for a seller for PL259 ply SO239 socket to SMA male
[12:34] <christopherlee> The one i did get hold of just fell apart nearly causing me issues with the female SMA scoket
[12:34] <fsphil> you could make one
[12:35] <eroomde> i'd make one certainly
[12:35] <christopherlee> Might give it a go
[12:36] <christopherlee> Its only Monday but feels like everything is going against me
[12:36] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> CPC or farnell
[12:36] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[12:37] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
[12:37] <fsphil> it's nice just being able to make a cable up however long you need it
[12:37] <fsphil> does the box need to announce that here?
[12:37] <fsphil> bot*
[12:38] <UpuWork> ues christopherlee
[12:38] <UpuWork> hang on
[12:39] <UpuWork> http://www.barenco.co.uk/interseries-adaptors-29/uhf-connectors
[12:40] <christopherlee> cheers
[12:40] <eroomde> radiall are the brand i usually use for adaptors
[12:40] <eroomde> farnell and rs have
[12:40] <eroomde> rs own brand is cheaper
[12:41] <UpuWork> The Barenco ones are pretty good quality
[12:41] <daveake> 3.55 jack plug to UHF ... just what I always wanted
[12:42] <eroomde> mains to pl259 would soon learn people
[12:42] <daveake> :)
[12:42] <eroomde> god invented N for a reason
[12:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VORTEX8 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX8
[12:43] <fsphil> I blame yaesu
[12:51] <christopherlee> thanks for advice.
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[12:55] <BirdyNumNum> Has anyone got any experience of Baofeng UV-5RC transceivers?
[12:55] <BirdyNumNum> Just found them on eBay for £23
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[12:57] <UpuWork> hey BirdyNumNum they are rubbish but work, no use for tracking USB balloon flights though
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[12:58] <BirdyNumNum> I expected them to be rubbish for that price, do they not do SSB
[12:58] <eroomde> nope
[12:58] <lz1dev> beofeng is pretty good
[12:58] <lz1dev> suprisingly good for the price infact
[12:59] <fsphil> for general FM chit-chat they're not too bad
[12:59] <fsphil> though one of mine has a fairly deaf microphone
[12:59] <lz1dev> its not very sensitive for rx
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[12:59] <fsphil> mine is the 3R, even cheaper model
[13:00] <lz1dev> i've got a 5re
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[13:02] <russss> most of them are almost identical with mysteriously different model numbers
[13:02] <eroomde> i have a yeasu something that i quite like
[13:02] <eroomde> not used it for a while though
[13:02] <russss> there is one which is 8W
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[13:02] <fsphil> still hoping for a good sequal to the ft817
[13:02] <fsphil> a little smaller, better battery
[13:02] <daveake> removable front panel
[13:03] <fsphil> oh yes
[13:03] <fsphil> wireless front panel
[13:03] <BirdyNumNum> Yes I traded my 817 for an 857, which is just a little oversized.
[13:03] <BirdyNumNum> For lugging around
[13:03] <fsphil> my 857 is faulty, still need to send that of to be repaired
[13:05] <BirdyNumNum> Can anyone recommend a hand held that does SSB
[13:05] <BirdyNumNum> ?
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[13:08] <fsphil> http://www.nevadaradio.co.uk/radio-scanners/scanners/alinco-dj-x11e--lower-price
[13:08] <fsphil> "lower"
[13:08] <fsphil> sheesh, that's more expensive that some very good transceivers
[13:09] <UpuWork> Icom R20
[13:09] <UpuWork> Icom R10 if you can find one on Ebay
[13:09] <UpuWork> Airspy + Laptop
[13:09] <fsphil> you could buy an airspy and a laptop for less than that alinco :)
[13:10] <BirdyNumNum> I don't think I'll be able to sneak £300 on the credit card past the Mrs!
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[13:31] <christopherlee> daveake: theother day when you helped me troubleshoot the CE1 slot issue son the LoRa board, all we did was make sure the code was using the 2nd slot and correct wiringpi GPIO?
[13:31] <daveake> yup
[13:34] <christopherlee> OK, i'll keep at it. Just wanted to check i had not missed something. Had to swap SD cards and thus rebuild image and for life of me it no longer works. RTTY is showing the fix but LoRa only ever send one string. Correct channel and gpio shows up.
[13:35] <daveake> one tx only is DIO0 not working
[13:37] <christopherlee> Yeah was expecting to just add the LORA_DIO0_1=27
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[14:03] <infaddict> Helium connections all sorted. All working great! Hope they dont mind me dismantling their adaptor. It will be put back together upon return ;-)
[14:04] <infaddict> and as a bonus i didnt blow the house up
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[14:05] <eroomde> yet
[14:05] <eroomde> where are you launching from infaddict?
[14:06] <infaddict> Subject to permission, from Woodstock near Oxford
[14:07] <infaddict> Chased CAA this morning
[14:08] <infaddict> Especially interested if they are going to decline or place severe restrictions
[14:09] <eroomde> i know woodstock
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[14:12] <tweetBot1> @pitsproject: #UKHAS Conference in London in August tickets still available see https://t.co/UPi5vtajVp for details.
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[14:17] <Vaizki> https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=35s&v=J_8mdH20qTQ
[14:17] <Vaizki> Hehe nice payload
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[15:58] <Lunar_Lander> hello again
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[16:21] <mattbrejza> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33229424
[16:21] <mattbrejza> thats a fcd++ in there
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[16:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
[16:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YO4SJI - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YO4SJI
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[16:57] <infaddict> mattbrejza: i will be suspicious of any "pocket bread" nearby my laptop from now on!
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[17:00] <eroomde> is 'pocket bread' a phrase that's in common use?
[17:00] <eroomde> i have never ever heard of a pita being referred to as 'pocket bread' before
[17:00] <eroomde> like calling a pastie 'pocket stew' or something
[17:01] <adamgreig> the "pocket" is a feature of pita bread i guess?
[17:01] <adamgreig> i've heard of no-pocket pita etc
[17:01] <adamgreig> wikipedia suggests "pocket-less pita"
[17:06] <infaddict> Maybe in Israel they keep bread based snacks handy in their pocets
[17:07] <adamgreig> I was hoping "pita" would translate to "pocket"
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[17:08] <eroomde> it ujust means pie i think
[17:08] <eroomde> factoid:
[17:08] <eroomde> when some greek settlers went to found a new city (neo-polis, now naples) in italy, they took pita with them
[17:09] <eroomde> and ate it with what was good and local - tomatoes, basil etc
[17:09] <eroomde> it the word just evolved into pizza
[17:09] <adamgreig> is this going to turn into pizza
[17:09] <adamgreig> haha
[17:09] <adamgreig> ace
[17:09] <infaddict> lol
[17:09] <Lunar_Lander> everything is european nowadays
[17:09] <Lunar_Lander> for example, aldi sells ravioli made in belgium
[17:10] <eroomde> brave new world Lunar_Lander
[17:10] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[17:10] <eroomde> we can further say that the phrase 'pizza pie' is a tautology
[17:11] <adamgreig> but they get recombined later!
[17:11] <eroomde> next time i am in chicago i will bore my waiter with this dull but important correction
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[17:11] <adamgreig> pita and pie go their separate ways and develop new semantics
[17:11] <eroomde> the turkish 'pide' shares the same indo-european route
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[17:14] <eroomde> i hope that a pita bread becomes the new altoids tin
[17:14] <eroomde> i might so a star tracker inside an oyster shell
[17:15] <adamgreig> so long as it's running perl
[17:15] <eroomde> ho.
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[17:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI_CE3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI_CE3
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[18:10] <M0JCU> VORTEX launch scrubbed due to T-storms :(
[18:11] <craag> :/
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[18:16] <fsphil> on the plus side, thunderstorms :)
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[18:22] <Reb-SM3ULC> M0JCU: down south by Överkalix?
[18:25] <M0JCU> Big cell heading north and another bubbling up just to the south near Piilijarvi
[18:26] <Reb-SM3ULC> oh
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[20:12] <mclane_> question to the RFM98 specialists: I see a quite significant frequency drift (about 150 Hz in 10 sec) when starting the transmission - is this normal?
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[20:18] <mattbrejza> mclane_: yea it can do that
[20:18] <mattbrejza> for example if you tx for a while then switch to rx it can be unreliable for a short while
[20:18] <mattbrejza> (for lower bandwidths)
[20:19] <mclane_> I am txing rtty (50baud, typically 60 chars) and then switching the tx off for 30 sec (just 50 ms beeps every 2 sec)
[20:20] <mclane_> I am not (yet) in LoRa mode
[20:20] <mattbrejza> oh right
[20:20] <mattbrejza> well i had it tx'ing all the time so it wasnt so noticeable
[20:21] <mattbrejza> especially as it starts in lora mode
[20:21] <mclane_> I need to save some energy since I will run from a AAA
[20:22] <mclane_> (one single)
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[20:26] <mclane_> http://i.imgur.com/SbgjUxH.png
[20:28] <mattbrejza> you could try replacing the crystal
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[20:29] <mattbrejza> or removing it and bodging a txco on
[20:29] <mattbrejza> or just find a source of sx1278
[20:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EGG1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EGG1
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[20:55] <M0NRD> Hi, know the hour is late but any one about who can approve flight docs?
[20:55] <Upu> yup
[20:55] <Upu> shoot
[20:55] <Upu> doc id pls
[20:58] <M0NRD> ok.. let me find em
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[20:59] <Reb-SM3ULC> M0NRD: late night flight?
[20:59] <M0NRD> nope just sorting out one for Sunday..
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[21:00] <M0NRD> Upu.. first one is 90cda90ccba35c4958821e5c44cc44ba MADHEN EGGSPLORER-1
[21:01] <Upu> approived
[21:01] <M0NRD> second one 9bb25e44250fae0bac48a277bd5e75a7 EGGSPLORER-DX
[21:01] <Upu> not tested
[21:02] <Upu> you need to transmit a few strings and upload
[21:02] <Upu> check it appears on the map
[21:02] <M0NRD> ok.. not reprogrammed the new callsign..
[21:02] <Upu> need to check it works before we can approve
[21:03] <M0NRD> ok. will do it asap.. first flights.. nerves getting the better of me ;-)
[21:03] <M0NRD> probably be tomorrow then thanks anyway Anthony]
[21:04] <Upu> be fine :)
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[21:55] <SpeedEvil> http://aurorawatch.lancs.ac.uk/
[21:56] <Laurenceb__> interesting http://www.techno-science.net/illustration/Aero/E-Fan/E-FAN-Train-AIRBUS.jpg
[21:58] <SpeedEvil> ? Rubber trainwheels?
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[21:58] <Laurenceb__> aircraft undercarriage
[21:58] <Laurenceb__> with electric motors
[21:59] <SpeedEvil> ah
[22:00] <SpeedEvil> Small 'RC' motors can be pretty awesome
[22:00] <Laurenceb__> looks like they are using one
[22:01] <Laurenceb__> http://cdn.klimg.com/merdeka.com/i/w/photonews/2014/04/25/357371/640x320/20140425210800-airbus-luncurkan-pesawat-listrik-e-fan-20-002-isn.jpg
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[22:04] <Laurenceb__> apparently it can fly for 1 hour
[22:04] <Laurenceb__> next version will be 2 hours with 2 crew
[22:07] <Laurenceb__> i wonder if its actually worth recovering KE on landing
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[22:54] <SpeedEvil> neat
[22:54] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb__: I suspect possibly - if only to skimp on the brakes
[22:55] <Laurenceb__> yeah
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[23:10] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb__: Is this a priceo?
[23:11] <SpeedEvil> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__68822__Multistar_16000mAh_6s_10c_UK_Warehouse_.html
[23:20] <Laurenceb__> looks cheap
[23:21] <Laurenceb__> but £74k for that plane
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