highaltitude.log.20150620

[00:08] <RandomNickname> I live in the us.. the NTX2B should be FCC approved so it should be ok?
[00:08] <RandomNickname> hmm..
[00:12] <kc2pit> In the US, you'll want to look at amateur radio licensing. It gets you around the rather constraining power restrictions that the UK folks work under.
[00:14] <kc2pit> Higher data rates become easier with higher power. The NTX2B-based systems are impressively efficient, but I don't know how fast you can practically modulate them.
[00:14] <kc2pit> So even with higher power, high speeds might not be practical with them.
[00:15] <Laurenceb__> http://eu.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?STMicroelectronics/STM32F746VGT6/&qs=sGAEpiMZZMu0dYp3dYbBlegJpFAYVTPixxVBRRQSrNw=
[00:15] <Laurenceb__> cortex m7 for sale :D
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[00:30] <mfa298> RandomNickname: also I'm not sure that 433/434MHz that the ntx2b uses is license free in the USA, you may need to look at other bands for license free devices - or go for an Amateur Radio License and you've got more bands and more power available
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[07:54] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX2 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX2
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[08:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AIRCOR-2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-2
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[09:11] <Herman_> gm all
[09:17] <Upu> morning
[09:20] <Herman_> ey Upu gm any bllon today ?? if u know
[09:21] <Upu> I'm not aware of any
[09:21] <Herman_> ok
[09:46] <Reb-SM3ULC> AIRCOR-2 up and about
[09:47] <Upu> !track AIRCOR-2
[09:47] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AIRCOR-2
[09:51] <Reb-SM3ULC> and down...
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[10:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TA2ANZ_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TA2ANZ_chase
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[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SAMTEST - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SAMTEST
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[10:59] <christopherlee> sudo nano /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:00] <christopherlee> Sorry wrong window
[11:00] <jarod> cool
[11:00] <jarod> thats my last command i used with my pi :)
[11:00] <jarod> to enter my hotspots info :P
[11:00] <christopherlee> hehe at least this time it was not my password
[11:01] <Reb-SM3ULC> christopherlee: :)
[11:02] <eroomde> i'm glad you feel that this is a safe enough environment to come out as a nano user
[11:02] <eroomde> we welcome all with open arms here
[11:02] <eroomde> even if they use a playschool text editor
[11:02] <christopherlee> lol
[11:02] <Reb-SM3ULC> eroomde: :D
[11:03] <christopherlee> never got on with vi
[11:03] <jarod> nothing wrong with nano
[11:03] <jarod> for quick and easy editing its by far the fastest
[11:03] <eroomde> it's quick and easy
[11:03] <eroomde> it's certainly not the fastest
[11:04] <jarod> command wise?
[11:04] <jarod> open = edit
[11:04] <mfa298> vi has fewer characters to startup
[11:04] <jarod> hehe
[11:04] <jarod> v <tab>
[11:04] <eroomde> also fewer keys to do basically anything
[11:04] <jarod> n <tab>
[11:04] <jarod> same :P
[11:07] <mfa298> you can't have much installed if n <tab> gets you nano
[11:07] <jarod> symlink in home dir :)
[11:07] <mfa298> then again we did have someone trying to convert us to emacs at work a while back
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[11:08] <eroomde> yeah well jehovah's witnesses sometimes knock on the door too
[11:08] <Reb-SM3ULC> implement a HAB in emacs.. :)
[11:08] <eroomde> life is full of crazies and deluded people
[11:08] <eroomde> the rest of us know the vi is the best thing we have to edit things, in the same way that the scientific method is the best thing we have to explain things
[11:11] <Reb-SM3ULC> eroomde: :)
[11:11] <Reb-SM3ULC> solaris (R.I:P.) demanded vi in order to change ip-adress
[11:12] <eroomde> yeah it can confuse those new
[11:12] <eroomde> if someone was using a linux system for the first time i'm tell them to use nano because it's so very basic
[11:12] <eroomde> just to config the stuff they need to config to get it up and running
[11:13] <eroomde> but instruction number 2 would be to learn vi and then i'm sure they wouldn't look back
[11:13] <mfa298> Reb-SM3ULC: Solaris (or at least derivatives) aren't dead yet - we've started using SmartOS at work
[11:14] <mfa298> and I'm sure I've used other tools to change settings on solaris - usually a case of ensuring EDITOR is set suitably
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[11:16] <eroomde> visudo was nano on debian (might still be, not used debian for a while) which was odd
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[11:17] <mfa298> most of those tools just read in the EDITOR environment variable to you can change the editor used if you want
[11:18] <craag> yep and manually installing nano will sometimes change the EDITOR variable.
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[11:27] <Vaizki> Better to set both EDITOR and VISUAL
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[11:52] <TT7> hello everybody, has anyone maneged to set up a chase car on a Windows Phone 6.5?
[11:53] <TT7> I am trying to access http://habhub.org/mt/ but can't get to load it properly
[11:55] <TT7> I guess the only other option for me is to manually update the position in dl-fldigi
[11:59] <craag> TT7: Try http://tracker.habhub.org/
[11:59] <craag> It's supposed to redirect, but sometimes doesn't seem to work.
[12:00] <craag> /mt/ is supposed to redirect, but sometimes doesn't seem to work.
[12:01] <TT7> it does redirect however the website loads only partially
[12:01] <craag> :/
[12:02] <craag> It is possible to get dl-fldigi to use a usb or serial gps
[12:03] <craag> I've used it in linux, I think it's not easy in windows.
[12:03] <daveake> Didn't work for me in Windows
[12:04] <daveake> Tried with a USB-serial GPS and a real serial GPS
[12:04] <TT7> my plan is to chase with my notebook, SDR and phone providing WiFi hotspot, but it runs on Windows
[12:04] <craag> mfa298 managed to get it work in windows I think, but it took him a while.
[12:05] <daveake> I use my own Windows app for the chase car position. Darkside has a java app for it too.
[12:05] <craag> Clearly android/linux is the ideal chasecar combo ;)
[12:05] <daveake> Also have a Pi set up to do it.
[12:05] Action: craag duscks..
[12:05] <craag> *ducks
[12:05] Action: daveake nods
[12:05] Action: daveake remembers "1 of 68 updates" during one chase ...
[12:06] <TT7> seems I'll have to stick with the manual update then
[12:06] <daveake> TT7 if anyone in the chase car has an Android or iPhone then there are apps for those that will do it
[12:08] <TT7> daveake I saw them, however the window mobile 6.5 will be most likely the only phone there
[12:09] <TT7> bad choice years ago, when I bought it :)
[12:09] <daveake> time for a change then :)
[12:11] <craag> You could try getting a cheap android phone, use it for the chase, then take it back within a week and say you changed your mind ;)
[12:13] <TT7> with all the other things to take care of when preparing a HAB, I think I'll stick with the occasional manual update :)
[12:17] <TT7> by the way, I wrote here asking about RFM22B getting stuck in a carrier when freezer tested weeks ago. In my case, a lot of electrical tape stuck on the transmitter seems to do the trick
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[12:18] <craag> held the moisture off probably :)
[12:18] <daveake> The best fix for the 22B ...
[12:18] <daveake> ... is an RFM69
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[12:18] <craag> +1 ^^
[12:18] <craag> I use them a lot at 868 MHz with ukhasnet
[12:18] <TT7> yea, I came to the same conclusion
[12:18] <mfa298> I've not had gps work with dl-fldigi on windows. I did get to a point of being able to compile a windows versionof dl-fldigi but that took a lot of work
[12:19] <craag> I've only had them die when their enclosures filled up with rainwater
[12:19] <craag> and even the most recent one of those worked again when it dried out!
[12:19] <daveake> The 22B is like an old rusty leaky car ... it can be made to work but are better scrapped
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[12:20] <craag> Also I've had one running for more than 13 months without reprogramming the registers :)
[12:20] <daveake> :)
[12:20] <TT7> I inted to use Si4060 for my future tracker. But I wonder what happened to UBSEDS8 a couple days back
[12:21] <TT7> *intend
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[12:51] <Laurenceb__> interesting
[12:51] <Laurenceb__> http://hackaday.com/2015/06/20/steering-high-altitude-rockets-with-cold-gas/
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[13:03] <jcoxon> PS-46 is still cracking on nicely
[13:03] <jcoxon> http://tracker.habhub.org/?filter=PS-46#!mt=roadmap&mz=4&qm=All&mc=-14.45601,36.771&q=PS-46
[13:08] <SpeedEvil> :)
[13:08] <jcoxon> i love the fact its chilling around africa
[13:18] <SpeedEvil> Interesting to see the clear mirroring in behaviour
[13:18] <jcoxon> yes indeed
[13:18] <jcoxon> with the regular pinch points
[13:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB1YTM-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1YTM-11
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[13:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-7 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-7
[13:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB0URW-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB0URW-12
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[13:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-8 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-8
[13:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0NSV-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W0NSV-11
[13:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-9
[13:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-11
[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0BVB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0BVB-11
[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD4STH-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD4STH-12
[13:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB1FDE - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1FDE
[13:53] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STH-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STH-12
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[14:13] <Laurenceb__> dat APRS
[14:13] <lz1dev> oh god
[14:13] <lz1dev> why would they do that
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[14:18] <TT7> what are these balloons that usually apear in the US? are these ordinary people sending cameras up, or real meteorological sondes?
[14:19] <lz1dev> they are actually doing atmosphere science
[14:19] <lz1dev> usually
[14:20] <TT7> I was wondering about that. usually no information about them in the google group nor here
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[14:21] <lz1dev> the tracker is for balloons, just so happens that people are sending cameras
[14:22] <lz1dev> there are quite a few weather sonders launched every day
[14:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KB9UFO-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB9UFO-11
[14:22] <lz1dev> but we filter those out
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[14:23] <TT7> i see
[14:23] <lz1dev> looks like its http://www.nearsys.com/
[14:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KI4NHK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KI4NHK-11
[14:24] <lz1dev> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_W_rafnTAnhM/SlzPDmzNEkI/AAAAAAAAAAc/4siqPdtBCnc/S1600-R/streetastro.jpg
[14:24] <lz1dev> :D
[14:29] <TT7> they don't lack ambition :)
[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5QVG-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5QVG-12
[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE5LWQ-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE5LWQ-13
[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HK-11
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[14:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0330H38W-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=30H38W-12
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[15:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TH-9 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=TH-9
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[15:16] <tweetBot> @GemPeake: We are wol 1 2 and 3 yey https://t.co/yxfVjgHEsa
[15:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 033D12S-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=3D12S-11
[15:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03I4NHK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=I4NHK-11
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[16:01] <M0JCU> !dial AIRCOR-2
[16:01] <SpacenearUS> 03M0JCU: There are no flights currently :(
[16:05] <lz1dev> its aprs
[16:06] <lz1dev> http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/aircore/
[16:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034NHK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4NHK-11
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[16:21] <sq5kvs> hi
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[16:36] <sq5kvs> http://www.om3bc.com/docs/payload/payload_en.html - nice (about bc04s balloon)
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[16:58] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[17:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Kb1fde_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Kb1fde_chase
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[18:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KJ4TDM-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:52] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03uX3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=uX3
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[19:59] <Laurenceb__> KJ4TDM-1 bombing huntville
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[21:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL4MDW - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL4MDW
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[22:13] <Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/gallery/2O7tE
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[22:26] <nigelvh> Laurenceb__: That's pretty disturbing
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[22:41] <DL7AD> 19e58e8c8927c1dae25148aff5526cc8
[22:41] <DL7AD> will be launched 02:00 UTC at berlin
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