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[06:43] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
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[06:46] <x-f> spammy bot is spammy
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[06:47] <lz1dev> thats what happens when you copy code and there are undefined variables
[06:48] <x-f> why it does not send those status messages just to you if you are the only one maintaining it?
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[06:53] <lz1dev> x-f: great question
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[07:17] <Reb-SM3ULC> morrn
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[09:04] <LunarWork> hello
[09:17] <fsphil> g'day
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[09:29] <Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/IjESv05.jpg
[09:29] <fsphil> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33063353
[09:29] <fsphil> someone at ATC discovers rtlsdr :)
[09:31] <LazyLeopard> Heh. And then a reporter plays fast and wide...
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[09:55] <Laurenceb> hmm
[09:56] <Laurenceb> I wonder if that could be used for DIY air defence
[09:56] <Laurenceb> luckily ISIS have probably banned TV
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[09:59] <murb> horray for passive radar!
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[10:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF0AIS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF0AIS
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[10:58] <Ian_> Until they decommission the TV transmitters because programming is all being delivered via the internet, but forgot to mention it to NATS
[10:59] <fsphil> unlikely to happen any time soon
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[11:05] <Ian_> Was ADSB take-up scheduled to become universal by 2022 but meeting some dragging of feet in parts of the world?
[11:09] <russss> only for commercial passenger flights I think
[11:10] <russss> it's still quite expensive to install
[11:11] <murb> Ian_: so use mobile networks for passive radar then?
[11:13] <murb> worked for detecting US stealth aircraft over .yu
[11:18] <Ian_> Better than pure reliance on ADSB I guess, where people can invent or clone aircraft identities.
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[11:20] <murb> well, we'll still have military radar.
[11:20] <murb> as for some reason hostile aircraft tend not to announce their location.
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[11:23] <Ian_> Yes, but when you have two copies of EasyJet flight XYZ and one indicates that it is on a collision path with your airliner, then suddenly CAS has to make a decision. Someone has caused your airliner to make an unscheduled maneouver . . .
[11:23] <Ian_> The military were not likely looking for that . . .
[11:23] <day> and if you do you kick in ride of the valkyries
[11:23] <Ian_> :)
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[11:59] <chris_99> Out of interest, has anyone placed co2/o2 sensors on a HAB?
[12:01] <day> ozone sensor would be intresting
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[12:03] <day> its crazy how much UV radiation the ozone layer absorbs. its amazing the balloons last that long above it
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[12:17] <fsphil> neat passive radar video, done with a usrp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9gRjK2ZlzE
[12:20] <Laurenceb> nice
[12:20] <Laurenceb> needs more processing
[12:21] <Laurenceb> multiple stations for positioning
[12:21] <fsphil> the noisy parts are probably when the fm station goes silent
[12:22] <gues2543> fsphil: wow *impressed*
[12:23] <gues2543> fsphil: but whats the round trip range?
[12:23] <fsphil> something like this for DVB might be easier, where you could reconstruct the original signal exactly
[12:23] <fsphil> well not easier, but require only one receiver
[12:25] <fsphil> gues2543: unsure. the furtherest object he got was about 275km
[12:25] <fsphil> about 2ms round trip?
[12:27] <gues2543> probably he can detect by the specific signal itself, how far the signal was reflexted.
[12:31] <Laurenceb> this would need a network of receivers to do object positioning
[12:31] <fsphil> yea
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[13:23] <richardeoin> does anyone remember the link to craag 's station timelapse?
[13:24] <richardeoin> I think he posted the link here a few weeks ago
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[13:31] <craag> yo richardeoin
[13:32] <craag> https://www.philcrump.co.uk/ukhas_listeners/
[13:32] <craag> https://www.philcrump.co.uk/ukhas_listeners/all
[13:32] <craag> https://www.philcrump.co.uk/ukhas_listeners/timelapse
[13:33] <cm13g09> craag, would you believe it but small world syndrome strikes again
[13:33] <cm13g09> does it not richardeoin
[13:33] <craag> oh?
[13:33] <richardeoin> Ah, thanks craag! Can I use some screenshots in a presentation I'm giving? I'll include credit + link
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[13:34] <craag> yep no worries :)
[13:34] <richardeoin> Ah yes, I went to school with cm13g09
[13:34] <craag> ah!
[13:34] <cm13g09> it's amazing how small a world it is
[13:34] <richardeoin> he was the resident windows-admin genius ;-)
[13:34] <cm13g09> richardeoin: Still work for them... for my sins ;)
[13:35] <richardeoin> Mmm I was just going to ask if you were still there
[13:35] <craag> He's everywhere.
[13:36] <richardeoin> ah yes I remember the feeling
[13:36] <cm13g09> richardeoin: lol
[13:37] <richardeoin> when they update the monitors in cr2 they should get the one from desk 4 (or was it 5) mounted in a glass case for you
[13:37] <richardeoin> it was basically yours for about 5 years iirc
[13:37] <cm13g09> richardeoin: done that already ;)
[13:38] <cm13g09> (the replacement that is)
[13:38] <richardeoin> ooh exciting
[13:38] <cm13g09> if I remember
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[13:45] <_charlie> the guy in Antarctica is the real mvp ( a° \– a°)
[13:45] <richardeoin> he's called lz1dev_test ...
[13:46] <richardeoin> suspect not actually in antarctica
[13:46] <_charlie> yeah
[13:46] <_charlie> unfortunaley the font messed up my Lenny face...
[13:47] <lz1dev> wat
[13:47] <_charlie> ( a° \– a°) = lenny face
[13:56] <fsphil> http://www.nasa.gov/jpl/bright-spots-shine-in-newest-dawn-ceres-images
[13:59] <fsphil> I don't think there has ever been as many active spacecraft near so many different objects in the solar system before
[14:00] <Laurenceb> uh oh http://www.sciencemag.org/content/316/5822/280.short
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[14:05] <_charlie> Would you trade it for a moon base fsphil?
[14:06] <LunarWork> be back later
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[14:07] <fsphil> nah
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[14:08] <fsphil> moon base would be cool but not at the expense of exploring the wider solar system
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[14:15] <_charlie> fair does
[14:17] <craag> moon base doesn't actually get us anything, apart from colonisation experience I guess.
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[14:19] <craag> More probes checking out deep space / moons / new asteroids has a greater chance of new discoveries I think.
[14:19] <_charlie> Moon would be an excellent place to build massive mirrors for telescopes
[14:19] <_charlie> No atmosphere
[14:19] <craag> Good point
[14:19] <fsphil> earth orbit even better :)
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[14:20] <_charlie> I don't know
[14:20] <_charlie> At least the moons surface provides support against warping
[14:21] <_charlie> without an even more massive structure to support it
[14:21] <craag> cost/benefit ratio compared to a high orbit isn't great though.
[14:22] <_charlie> Even though you would need to launch just the equipment to build the stuff?
[14:22] <_charlie> Launch tools to build a 50m on th emoon, and you can build a dozen
[14:23] <_charlie> whereas launching a 50m mirror into orbit means you have - well - a 50m mirror in orbit
[14:25] <_charlie> 354 hour nights would be a bit naff though :-)
[14:26] <craag> the hard part is getting humans to the moon, and supporting them there.
[14:26] <_charlie> indeed
[14:26] <_charlie> that's why I say Venus is the best bet :D
[14:27] <_charlie> better than mars at least
[14:32] <_charlie> On a separate matter.. Is it even possible for a balloon to get to the Mesosphere?
[14:34] <eroomde> yes
[14:34] <fsphil> the japanese did it
[14:35] <_charlie> really? :O
[14:35] <eroomde> a balloon can ascend arbitrarily high, it really just depends on its average density
[14:35] <eroomde> japs got to about 55km
[14:35] <_charlie> I thought the record was 40km or something
[14:35] <eroomde> that's the record
[14:35] <_charlie> wow O.o
[14:35] <eroomde> no 40km is pretty low
[14:35] <fsphil> 54km
[14:35] <fsphil> er
[14:35] <fsphil> 53km
[14:35] <fsphil> in 2002
[14:35] <eroomde> latex weatherballoon stuff is not troubling any of the actual records
[14:35] <fsphil> http://www.isas.jaxa.jp/e/special/2003/yamagami/03.shtml
[14:36] <_charlie> oh right, I was looking at the amateur stuff woops
[14:36] <fsphil> it floated for a while at 53km
[14:37] <_charlie> hmmm
[14:37] <russss> "34.37kg in empty weight, 74.5m in length, and 53.7m in diameter"
[14:37] <eroomde> not bad really
[14:37] <fsphil> pretty light
[14:38] <fsphil> has to be I guess
[14:38] <fsphil> wouldn't want to be paying for the lifting gas
[14:38] <_charlie> lol
[14:38] <_charlie> sorry to be rude, but ive just see the time, need to grab lunch will bbs
[14:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VORTEX5 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX5
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[15:04] <_charlie> am back :)
[15:04] <_charlie> very impressive stuff
[15:10] <tweetBot> @daveake: New blog post: Using a standard "calling frequency" to announce the balloon primary frequency and parameters - http://t.co/cPNdqqFcOi #UKHAS
[15:10] <daveake> ^ fsphil
[15:10] <daveake> Now wait a while before you have any more bright ideas for me :p
[15:11] <christo__> Excellent idea, will take a better look later
[15:14] <_charlie> Is it worth setting the frequency of the calling message to be random within a range, so that if you had two payloads that by chance overlapped each other, they wouldn't consistently do so?
[15:15] <daveake> well the idea is that we'd all agree a calling frequency and that it would only be used for that purpose
[15:16] <fsphil> the announcements would not be too frequent
[15:16] <fsphil> once every 5 minutes for example
[15:16] <daveake> It would be worth randomising the timing of the calling message, in case 2 balloons happen to land themselves in sync with overlapping calls
[15:17] <fsphil> good idea
[15:17] <daveake> er, your idea iirc :)
[15:18] <_charlie> LOl
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Like it, I'll get the new version of the Gateway software down shortly!
[15:18] <fsphil> should be interesting to see in action
[15:18] <_charlie> i meant frequency in the sending of message, not carrier frequency woops haha
[15:18] <daveake> I need to put it up first :)
[15:18] <daveake> ah
[15:18] <daveake> in that case yes :)
[15:19] <_charlie> words are great :P
[15:19] <daveake> frequently are
[15:19] <russss> https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/608649700955303937
[15:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> daveake, Is there any mileage in having a local log or what has been heard, so that the Op can see what has been going on ?
[15:20] <daveake> Yeah, I'll do that
[15:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah good, when it was having problems on the day of the Eclipse it was a bugger to screen grab at just the right point!
[15:21] <fsphil> oh, that day
[15:21] <daveake> you think it was bad for you :p
[15:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> ;-)
[15:23] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-46 after 0318 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-46
[15:24] <fsphil> nice, going for a second lap
[15:25] <_charlie> Someone in SA heard it but who?
[15:25] <_charlie> Is the record 3 laps?
[15:25] <fsphil> it's transmitting on HF using WSPR
[15:25] <fsphil> it could potentially be received anywhere in the world
[15:26] <_charlie> ah gotcha
[15:26] <_charlie> But ZS is South African
[15:26] <fsphil> yea
[15:26] <fsphil> that's HF for you
[15:26] <_charlie> yeah
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[15:33] <tweetBot> @willduckworth: Nice work Dave https://t.co/fizvNYRggy
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[15:47] <Laurenceb> Leo got 9.5 laps iirc
[15:49] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-64_20140712/index.php?ind=0
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[15:50] <Laurenceb> almost 10
[15:50] <Lunar_Lander> back
[15:51] <_charlie> oh nice, most impressive
[15:51] <Laurenceb> i doubt PS-46 will go that far, too low
[15:51] <Laurenceb> need to be above 11.5km to get super long duration
[15:51] <_charlie> above more weather, I guess?
[15:53] <Laurenceb> yes
[15:54] <_charlie> cool
[15:54] <_charlie> no one has found my cylinder of helium yet ;)
[15:54] <_charlie> Just need to figure out a good envelope material :D
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[15:56] <Laurenceb> http://regmedia.co.uk/2014/08/01/b_64_balloon_test.jpg
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[15:58] <_charlie> Just inflated until is under a little pressure, or as much as it will take?
[15:59] <Laurenceb> as much as it will take
[15:59] <Laurenceb> thats at the start of the pre-stretch, so you can still see wrinkles
[16:00] <_charlie> ah okay
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[16:00] <_charlie> so you are wanting to fill it to take out the wrinkles
[16:00] <_charlie> as much as possible
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[16:01] <Laurenceb> wrinkles lead to stress concentration and it bursts
[16:02] <_charlie> makes sense
[16:02] <_charlie> I need some of these http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2008/09/cu-physicists-create-worlds-thinnest-balloon
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> At ~25C, it stretches permenantly some before snapping
[16:02] <SpeedEvil> At -40C - it just snaps
[16:03] <_charlie> too cold
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> Graphene is awesome
[16:03] <Reb-SM3ULC> I have wondered why the PS-guys won't send them a bit higher
[16:04] <_charlie> PS?
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[16:05] <chris_99> when will we have vacuum ballons
[16:05] <chris_99> *balloons
[16:06] <Laurenceb> Reb-SM3ULC: they are using qualatex balloons
[16:06] <_charlie> When we develop Write Only Memory l)
[16:06] <_charlie> ;)
[16:06] <chris_99> haha
[16:06] <Laurenceb> aiui they are removing the alu and pre stretching, then using hydrogen
[16:06] <fsphil> vacuum balloons suck
[16:06] <chris_99> heh
[16:07] <_charlie> It amazes me that despite the popularity of foil balloons, getting a roll of the material is nigh impossible
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[16:08] <Reb-SM3ULC> Laurenceb: aaah
[16:09] <Reb-SM3ULC> fsphil: :)
[16:10] <SpeedEvil> _charlie: getting a hundred is easy
[16:11] <_charlie> True, but I dont think multiple small balloons works quite as well as one big
[16:11] <SpeedEvil> I mean a hundred rolls
[16:11] <_charlie> where from
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[16:13] <richardeoin> Laurenceb Any ideas what the PS guys are doing for an antenna?
[16:13] <Laurenceb> probably training wire
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/metallized-bopa-balloon-film-balloon-film_60254063159.html
[16:13] <richardeoin> just trailing 8 - 10m of really thin wire?
[16:13] <Laurenceb> yes
[16:14] <richardeoin> hmm that's probably not cool for uk launches?
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Inflatable-foil-helium-balloon-materials_725218662.html
[16:14] <Laurenceb> maybe not...
[16:15] <Laurenceb> other option is a loop antenna
[16:15] <_charlie> the first one works out to be a minimum order of £1k1
[16:15] <Laurenceb> i did some modelling of an aluminised film loop
[16:15] <_charlie> Need to start a syndicate
[16:15] <Laurenceb> seemed to be workable
[16:15] <Laurenceb> FIBA
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> (I am not recommending either of these specifically - if you want really long duration, you want to pay close attention to the permeability for the polymers)
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> and the layers
[16:15] <_charlie> yeah
[16:16] <richardeoin> hmm loops are hard but could work
[16:16] <Laurenceb> itd have to be self tuning
[16:16] <richardeoin> I modelled a trailing wire in mmana-gal for fun, but didn't try a loop
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[16:16] <richardeoin> how do you make a loop antenna self tuning?
[16:16] <Laurenceb> feedback circuit
[16:16] <richardeoin> uh okay
[16:17] <Laurenceb> annoyingly mine needed 20V
[16:17] <Laurenceb> but the loop ran fine off 1xlipo
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[16:19] <_charlie> i need to get pally with a material engineer
[16:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL9UL - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL9UL
[16:21] <_charlie> hmmm would Kapton work?
[16:24] <Vaizki> I assume they are trailing wire thin enough to claim instant vaporization without a forest fire or substation blowup in case of shorting power lines
[16:33] <_charlie> kapton seems to have low permeability
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[16:40] <_charlie> cant get it very wide though (26" best so far)
[16:43] <_charlie> what sort of stresses would be on a 50m long, 50cm wide sausage balloon? :P
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[16:49] <_charlie> nasa seemed to like it, one problem though
[16:49] <_charlie> "brittle above 400C" :D
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[17:18] <_charlie> Anyone know the weight of a qualatex balloon?
[17:29] <guest8345> 36...38g
[17:29] <_charlie> just measured it 3 seconds ago xD
[17:30] <_charlie> had to get a beer to get the plastic cup ;)
[17:30] <_charlie> thanks anyway
[17:30] <guest8345> np
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[18:27] <ok1cdj> ge all
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[18:44] <ok1cdj> ge all
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[18:50] <SA6BSS> ge Ondrej
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[18:51] <SA6BSS> looks like your hab this weekend will take an east bound flight, not coming my way
[18:54] <ok1cdj> hi mikael
[18:54] <ok1cdj> prediction is to east, but every day more to north :-)
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[18:55] <SA6BSS> ok, have not tested the prediction for a couple days
[18:55] <ok1cdj> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=ca7276f62a70da4258f6526fe08b8ee80c05400f
[18:58] <SA6BSS> yep, defenetly more north then I last checked, allways a good thing to get a hab go over poland as theres many h
[18:58] <SA6BSS> habers thre
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[19:00] <ok1cdj> yes, i hope that it will better than last weekend.. raj-0 had only 3mW
[19:00] <ok1cdj> wrong setting in code..
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[19:04] <SA6BSS> ahh, yep, was listening on on nurmberg web sdr, but it was traveling east faster then it gained altitude so I never heard it
[19:04] <SA6BSS> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/151610_trj001.gif
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[19:07] <ok1cdj> where is page for this prediction ? i'm using only predict.habhub.org
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[19:08] <SA6BSS> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub-bin/trajtype.pl
[19:08] <SA6BSS> use GFS 192H
[19:10] <ok1cdj> tnx, will try it..
[19:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> you also need to use the isobaric choice for a floater I think.
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[19:12] <SA6BSS-Mike> predict.habhub.org is good enugh for trajectory, but in noaa its easy to see how fast the balloon will travel
[19:13] <ok1cdj> great.. tnx
[19:14] <SA6BSS-Mike> np, good luck :)
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[19:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> Evening
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[19:35] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03DF0AIS after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF0AIS
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[20:27] <Laurenceb_> uh oh
[20:27] <Laurenceb_> https://hackaday.io/project/5596-em-drive
[20:29] <eroomde> i have a feeling that person is in this channel
[20:29] <_charlie> ikr
[20:29] <_charlie> what a joke
[20:30] <_charlie> really ed? O.o
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[20:31] <_charlie> sad thing is when you see comments like this: "beware though that the author of the page behind this last link is very skeptical."
[20:31] <_charlie> Science is underpinned by skepticism
[20:34] <_charlie> But moving on I have a question for you guys
[20:34] <_charlie> How would Kapton fare as a balloon envelope material?
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[20:48] <richardeoin> _charlie you can make a guess at helium permeability from the Oxygen Transmission Rate. Do you have a figure for that?
[20:49] <richardeoin> And for use with a superpressure balloon a stress - strain curve would give you some clues. Or a figure for ultimate tensile strength
[20:49] <SpeedEvil> Also - glueability or sealability
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> hmmm
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> eroomde built it?
[20:49] <SpeedEvil> being able to heatseal two bits is great
[20:49] <Laurenceb_> its fairly pro
[20:49] <SpeedEvil> plus - UV
[20:50] <_charlie> I just had a glance at table 1 here http://www.doylegroup.harvard.edu/wiki/images/0/01/NIMA_615_257.pdf
[20:51] <_charlie> Saw I could get a 500mm wide 33m long piece for a reasonable sum and thought that might do
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[20:51] <_charlie> Nasa dismissed it for a venus balloon becuase it becomes brittle when >400C, but thats not a problem on earth lol
[20:55] <SpeedEvil> What thickness
[20:55] <SpeedEvil> nd what are you aiming at
[20:55] <Laurenceb_> i dont believe EM drive works.. but im happy to watch with popcorn on hand
[20:55] <SpeedEvil> For a days flight, damn near anything works
[20:56] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb_: yeah - the whole free energy thing makes it extraordinarily unlikely for me.
[20:56] <SpeedEvil> Or proof of aether otherwise
[20:56] <Laurenceb_> http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/thriller/25.gif
[20:56] <SpeedEvil> Some sort of locally pinned aether so that it 'pushes' against something with the same velocity as earth
[20:57] <_charlie> The thickness of the shete i have in mind is 2.4mil
[20:57] <_charlie> 0.06mm
[20:57] <SpeedEvil> That's very thick
[20:58] <Laurenceb_> I wouldnt use kapton
[20:58] <Laurenceb_> its going to heat up a lot in the sun for a start
[20:58] <_charlie> :/
[20:59] <_charlie> back to the drawing board
[20:59] <Laurenceb_> Leo had a Al - Nylon6 - EVOH - Polythene material
[20:59] <Laurenceb_> so it sealed really well due to the polythene
[20:59] <Laurenceb_> and the EVOH is crazy impermeable to gas, and Nylon6 is strong and has good creep resistance at ~ -40C
[21:00] <_charlie> Great
[21:00] <_charlie> So where do I find a roll of this stuff? :P
[21:00] <SpeedEvil> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Nylon-EVOH-PE-high-barrier-film_60072930389.html
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> I'll split a roll.
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:01] <_charlie> okay you can have 90% of it :)
[21:01] <SpeedEvil> It's annoying
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[21:02] <Laurenceb_> Leo found someone via ebay who sold him a cheapish roll
[21:02] <Laurenceb_> I'd like to experiment with UV treatment
[21:02] <Laurenceb_> back of envelope says youd struggle to get past 1 year duration with Leos design due to UV damage
[21:02] <Laurenceb_> but with UV treatment it should fly > 10 years
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[21:04] <_charlie> envelopes are super unreliable :P
[21:05] <SpeedEvil> they're more reliable if you use a layer of bubble-wrap
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[21:09] <Laurenceb_> I do worry about creep, I'd like to model that but cant find the data
[21:09] <Laurenceb_> Nylon6 basically always creeps
[21:09] <Laurenceb_> which is annoying, its much less of an issue with Mylar
[21:10] <Laurenceb_> this is one of the main reasons for glass reinforced nylon in engineering applications
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[21:10] <Laurenceb_> and the ultimate tensile strength isnt really increased, in fact often its lower that neat nylon6
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[21:12] <_charlie> this is why i didnt take chemical engineering
[21:13] <_charlie> :P
[21:15] <Laurenceb_> http://www.toray.jp/plastics/en/amilan/technical/images/ami_tec_021.gif
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[21:20] <Laurenceb_> looks like it gets flatter at lower temperature
[21:20] <Laurenceb_> if its good enough at -40C to last many years is another question
[21:24] <_charlie> let me get some qualatex balloons launched in the next couple of weeks
[21:24] <_charlie> then lets see about making some balloons
[21:24] <_charlie> this is something that we can do good in
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[21:41] <Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/Z7MaxKp
[21:41] <Laurenceb_> omg omg omg
[21:41] <Laurenceb_> drooolllll
[21:41] <Laurenceb_> fapfapfap
[21:42] <Laurenceb_> looks more like iphone7 lol
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[21:42] <_charlie> rubiish
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[21:45] <Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/1o8K9Is.jpg
[21:45] <Laurenceb_> Rpi?? who needs that nonsense
[21:45] <fsphil> not another dev board to take up space...
[21:45] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[21:45] <Dread> stm32 ftw
[21:45] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 32 ft = 9.75 m
[21:45] <daveake> hah
[21:46] <fsphil> lol
[21:46] <fsphil> from now own it must be called the stm9.75m
[21:46] <Laurenceb_> it does look rather silly for a mcu board
[21:47] <Laurenceb_> basically has all the peripherals of Rpi now
[21:47] <fsphil> plus a screen
[21:47] <fsphil> 8MB of ram
[21:48] <fsphil> though video would fill that up pretty quick
[21:48] <_charlie> like i just dont get the point
[21:49] <_charlie> too advance for a beginner who needs hardware done for them
[21:49] <_charlie> too constrained for the more mature hobbiest who can chose what they need
[21:49] <Vaizki> but.. how much?
[21:50] <Laurenceb_> _charlie: its nicer than embedded linux
[21:50] <_charlie> But, what would you do with it?
[21:50] <Laurenceb_> if you need a hard real time system with nice GUI
[21:50] <Vaizki> it doesn't even run node.js
[21:50] <Vaizki> :(
[21:50] <Laurenceb_> I could use it for some medical devices
[21:50] <Vaizki> </troll>
[21:50] <Laurenceb_> run this http://ugfx.org/
[21:53] <Laurenceb_> http://studio.ugfx.org/
[21:57] <Laurenceb_> £35 apparently
[21:57] <Vaizki> ok that's nice
[21:59] <Vaizki> 3×12-bit, 2.4 MSPS ADC: up to 24 channels and 7.2 MSPS in triple interleaved mode
[21:59] <Vaizki> hrmmh
[22:01] <fsphil> hmmm indeed
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[22:05] <Vaizki> but time to sleep, no more boards needed now ;)
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