highaltitude.log.20150607

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[07:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS6 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=UBSEDS6
[07:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Harvy_Chase_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Harvy_Chase_chase
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[07:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Harvy_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=Harvy_chase
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[08:07] <tweetBot> @bristolseds: Qualatex Pico Launch UBSEDS6 #ukhas http://t.co/kLekoasz3y
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[08:13] <gonzo_nb> a pic of an inflated ballon, does that mean they are about to launch?
[08:18] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[08:18] <richardeoin> !flight ubseds6
[08:18] <SpacenearUS> 03richardeoin: Flight 10(562a): 03UBSEDS6 434.600 RTTY, CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 08:00 from 03Saint Werburgh's, Bristol, Bristol, City of Bristol, UK 10(51.47,-2.58)
[08:19] <richardeoin> !whereis ubseds6
[08:19] <SpacenearUS> 03richardeoin: 03UBSEDS6 is near 03City of Bristol, UK 10(51.46125,-2.57957) at 03306 meters
[08:24] <Upu> !track ubseds6
[08:24] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ubseds6
[08:30] <craag> yay GB2RS bang on 434.600
[08:31] <Upu> ask them to be quietr
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[08:38] <craag> Interestingly he's got 50hz harmonics of his carrier freq, and very little power in the audio modulation, resulting in noisy audio at S9+20
[08:38] <craag> That's not a healthy transmitter
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[08:39] <Herman-PB0AHX> !dial
[08:39] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[08:40] <craag> 434.600 Herman-PB0AHX
[08:40] <Herman-PB0AHX> craag: wat is there ?
[08:40] <craag> UBSEDS6 pico jsut launched from bristol. Won't be in range of you for a while I think
[08:41] <Herman-PB0AHX> craag: ok tnx for info i wil do writing today
[08:46] <Herman-PB0AHX> so dlfldigi is up and running now lets go start writing
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[08:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> the pi-sky-test is old file ????
[08:52] <SA6BSS> yes it was dave that made some test last night
[08:52] <SA6BSS> playback of old file
[09:04] <Herman-PB0AHX> UBSEDS6 is not fast i like that
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[09:44] <ears-minibus> hey guys, just trying to get our chase car rx configured; does anyone know the frequency ubseds6 is on at the moment?
[09:45] <Herman-PB0AHX> 434.600 in rtty and contestia32/1000
[09:45] <ears-minibus> thanks a lot mate
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[09:47] <G8FJG_Ron> 434.598.700
[09:48] <G8FJG_Ron> for 1k offset
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[09:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/UBSEDS6_20150607/
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[10:21] <amell> any idea what is going up from elsworth at 1pm?
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[10:24] <PE2BZ-2> !payload ubseds6
[10:24] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ-2: Payload 03UBSEDS6 10(562a) 03$$UBSEDS6 - 03RTTY every 1 minute - 03434.6 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/400Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[10:28] <fsphil> I've got a really odd pulseaudio bug (yay another one)
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[10:29] <fsphil> the audio output is delayed by a few seconds, and again by another second. so the output is playing twice
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[10:31] <Herman-PB0AHX> PE2BZ-2: $$UBSEDS6 is rtty and contestia 32/1000
[10:33] <PE2BZ> Herman-PB0AHX thanks. Seems not to be in range yet. Not from home, but neither from sdr@work at 27 meter asl.
[10:34] <Herman-PB0AHX> i hrd some pings some times now but not yet writing
[10:35] <PE2BZ> Does UBSEDS6 give beeps between transmissions ?
[10:35] <Upu> yes
[10:35] <Upu> but transmissions are pretty close
[10:35] <PE2BZ> I heard them on the Icom with the Diamond V-2000 antenna at home
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[10:39] <tweetBot> @SurreyEARS: Were following the @bristolseds UBSEDS6 #HAB ,enroute to launching #EARSHAB2 later today! #UKSEDS https://t.co/6YG91jS0Dp
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[10:41] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: @bristolseds Nice flight! #ukhas #hab http://t.co/rrlaJVqJRs
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[10:49] <fsphil> yay PA just fixed itself for no apparent reason
[10:49] <fsphil> any of these flights today expected to get to a good altitude?
[10:49] <fsphil> I'd like to test out the airspy
[10:51] <fsphil> UBSED looks like a pico floater
[10:51] <fsphil> aww
[10:52] <PE2BZ> fsphil Airspy is awsome ! Have one running with bandpass filter @ 403 MHz, with preamp and antenna height of 27 meters for radio sondes.
[10:53] <Herman-PB0AHX> yes the first green from $$UBSEDS6,10:52:21,51.61036,-0.98446,8095,6,1.42,-14.6,-8*128A
[10:53] <PE2BZ> congrats Herman !
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[10:59] <G0WXI> !dial ubseds6
[10:59] <SpacenearUS> 03G0WXI: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS6 10(562a): 03434.599058 MHz, 434.598891 MHz, 434.6 MHz, 434.5987 MHz, 434.599456 MHz, 434.65 MHz, 434.599 MHz, 434.5983 MHz, 434.60142 MHz, 434.599081 MHz
[10:59] <fsphil> weirdly I can decode pager with an rtlsdr but not the airspy. not sure what's going on. it may be a software problem rather than hardware
[10:59] <fsphil> I hope anyway
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[11:02] <PE2BZ-2> fsphil don't you use the same software for rtlsdr and airspy ?
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[11:03] <fsphil> yea
[11:04] <PE2BZ-2> Then it could not be a software problem I would say ?
[11:05] <fsphil> well, different sample rates and different drivers between the software and hardware
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[11:06] <fsphil> could be a power problem too, it's on the end of a fairly long usb cable
[11:06] <PE2BZ-2> The one thing that comes to mind: I notice running SDR Console as software, all SDR's have mirror reception, on the given frequency added with the sample rate. I often tried to decode radiosondes at 406.1 MHz without luck, and they were transmitting at 401.1, the Airspy was at 5 MS
[11:08] <PE2BZ-2> About the UBSEDS6: Is there a diffenrence between the RTTY and the Constestia data or is it the same ?
[11:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> They don't appear to be repeat sentences
[11:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> and the temperatures are from different sensors it looks like ??
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[11:14] <PE2BZ-2> the -16.3 would be the temperature ? (I can only view contest or rtty, i have to switch between the modes I assume ?
[11:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> open two copies of dl-fldigi one in each mode
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[11:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/UBSEDS6_20150607/Capture.JPG
[11:18] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: You pinged me last night?
[11:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh yes have you tried any 3G GPRS aerials out ?
[11:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> looking to get one wondered what your experience was?
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[11:19] <craag> I've got a magmount that works rather well
[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> right the two coil 3 section type I guess 2-3dBi type ?
[11:20] <PE2BZ-2> Geoff-G8DHE Thanks, that was an untought solution.. Works great indeed !
[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> nps!
[11:21] <PE2BZ-2> Now, running 2 times fldigi gives me a double part of the PIE ?
[11:22] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: Yeah, I think it tries to be multi frequency, works great for boosting Three signal. Very noticable difference.
[11:22] <craag> one sec will dig out the one
[11:23] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mobile-Broadband-CRC9-Antenna-11dBi-Huawei-Aerial-Signal-Booster-3G-UMTS-Boost-/131506879869?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9e6bbd7d
[11:23] <craag> No way it's 11dbi
[11:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> Right yup, looking for something on the van, they looked a bit cheap at £5-6 but didn't want to go directional
[11:23] <craag> But it has put me from 'no signal' with dongle alone on roof to ~2mbps 3G before
[11:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes there are the cheaper versions and the better Huawei one think I'll go for that then, noticed that Three are reducing coverage on 3G at present as they switch to 4G it seems
[11:25] <craag> Yeah I'll have to upgrade to 4G at some point!
[11:26] <craag> The 4G stuff uses mimo which makes the antenna situation more tricky - and hence they don't tend to have antenna sockets :/
[11:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yes they do a TS9 connector version as well
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[11:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Quite, its going to be a pain in the future
[11:27] <craag> mm, might have to consider just putting the dongle in a box on the roof :P
[11:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Thats where mine is at present in the roof tent, but getting it another 2-3m higher would help!
[11:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> does the magmount stand unscrew- as I'll need to mount it on the glassfibre roof ?
[11:29] <craag> Yes it does
[11:29] <craag> see pictures further down
[11:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah I was thinking of just the magnet itself as still need the connector to bring it in
[11:30] <craag> Ah, I think that does too
[11:30] <craag> I took the bottom off once, I think the magnet was jsut bolted inside
[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> sounds good I have a ground plane underneath but it won't be steel!
[11:31] <craag> Fibreglass van roof sounds great for mounting antennas...
[11:31] <craag> Could have yagis on rotators tucked away in there!
[11:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Have you seen my radome ?
[11:31] <craag> nope
[11:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> hangon
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[11:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.g8dhe.net/bongo_images/Minniepimp.jpg
[11:33] <craag> ha
[11:33] <craag> what's in there?
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[11:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its an ATC one behind the van!
[11:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9HFJ-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HB9HFJ-11
[11:36] <craag> hehe
[11:36] <craag> you got me
[11:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> Up at Verne prison on Portland!
[11:37] <craag> very nicely done photo
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[11:37] <fsphil> hah, nice photo trick
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[11:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah street view doesn't go up there stops part way up the hill
[11:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> Will be mouting it like a Unicorn on the sloping front so it doesn't catch on height bars but will be vertical when the roof it up.
[11:41] <craag> Ah yes
[11:41] <craag> That'd work nicely
[11:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> I Hope so, could only just get a weak signal this week up around Mdhurst/Petworh way this week and mothing in Midhurst itself at all coverage is getting poor :-(
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[11:45] <PE2G> !dial ubseds6
[11:45] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS6 10(562a): 03434.599435 MHz, 434.6 MHz, 435.345 MHz, 434.5987 MHz, 434.598484 MHz, 434.598891 MHz, 434.60142 MHz, 434.599 MHz, 434.599046 MHz, 434.301708 MHz
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[11:47] <PE2G> !hysplit ubseds6
[11:47] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
[11:48] <Upu> !hysplit run ubseds6
[11:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[11:48] <PE2G> Tnx
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[11:54] <PE2G> !hysplit ubseds6
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: HYSPLIT for 03UBSEDS6 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/150607-11_172188_UBSEDS6.gif
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[11:57] <amell_> Arrived at Elsworth. Significant ISH extension is likely :)
[11:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[11:57] <craag> Fallen asleep in the sun?
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[11:58] <amell_> Maybe an hour. The uni students just got their payload out the van
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[11:58] <amell_> Some windows server RIP payload.
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[11:59] <amell_> It is an EARS payload. Can't see it on the calendar, may not have a doc
[11:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Steve has HL1 and uX2 flying today ?
[12:00] <amell_> Yes but I thought the EARS people had their own tracker
[12:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> could be
[12:00] <amell_> I moved to an another area of the site for rockets so can't ask
[12:00] <amell_> Will pop back later when we are closer to ISH
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[12:04] <EARS> Hi, is the right person here to talk to about getting a flight approved on habitat?
[12:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Upu has been around
[12:04] <craag> Hi EARS, post the flight doc id in #habhub and someone might be around to approve it for you
[12:05] <EARS> Lovely, thanks!
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[12:17] <Elwell> Upu: Any plans to do another run of the yaesu interface boards?
[12:17] Action: Elwell picked up a 5400 rotor + controller today
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[12:21] <Upu> Hey Elwell
[12:21] <Upu> they are avaible
[12:22] <Upu> http://ava.upuaut.net/?p=372
[12:22] <Upu> press the button
[12:22] <Upu> send me some money
[12:23] <Upu> won't ship for a week or so as I'm off
[12:27] <Elwell> I missed the paypal button - oops
[12:28] <Elwell> will it work with bog standard 16*2 LCD display things?
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[12:30] <Elwell> actually - won't order tonight as trying to persuade $boss to buy GPS breakouts - may as well ship in one parcel
[12:34] <gonzo_> amsat uk, sell the lvb interfaces kits
[12:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03uX2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=uX2
[12:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HL1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HL1
[12:37] <Elwell> gonzo_: yeah, thats what I made for F6KAR
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[12:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EARS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EARS
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[12:54] <garymortimer> Is that an autopilot in EARs? seeing lots of sensors
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[12:59] <garymortimer> Excellent live TV, as the hospital I am sat with wife and new baby is in town it has excellent web coverage so I can watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnJiB8AFNWw
[13:00] <christop_> Thats better as was not getting anything on the livehab link
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[13:12] <gonzo_> congrats on the new arrival
[13:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> By balloon ?
[13:12] <gonzo_> HAB is the new stork
[13:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> must have been a condom flight ?
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[13:17] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[13:20] <gonzo_> I can think of so many replies!
[13:20] <tweetBot> @G8DHE: HAB - 1 Flight in progress UBSEDS6 http://t.co/JBI2sVlsPp , three about to launch EARS,HL1 & uX2, DODGE due later. #ukhas #hab
[13:22] <craag> A decent float by ubseds
[13:23] <craag> Only slight oscillation on interface - looking a lot like the B- flights.
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[13:38] <christop_> Any one got an idea of Freq for EARS?
[13:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload ears
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Payload 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508) 03$$EARS - 03RTTY Telemetry - 03434.275 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/425Hz ASCII-7 none 1.5
[13:39] <christop_> cheers
[13:39] <christop_> must remember some of the commands
[13:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> !wikiirc_bot
[13:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> !wiki irc_bot
[13:39] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Wiki page 03spacenearus_irc_bot - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
[13:39] <christop_> :-)
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[13:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[13:52] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03RAJ-0 launch 10(8c6c), 03EARS HAB 2 10(8508), 03DOGE2 10(65fb), 03XABEN-90 10(5c2a), 03UBSEDS6 434.600 RTTY, CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(562a), 03144.7MHz RTTY100bd/450/7n2 10(0daa)
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[14:02] <Reb-SM3ULC> great video coverage from EARS :)
[14:04] <Reb-SM3ULC> a bit low sound though..
[14:04] <christop_> Yes, would be nice with audio
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[14:13] <Reb-SM3ULC> it's "occassional" audio
[14:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is it running now ?
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[14:15] <Reb-SM3ULC> up and away!
[14:15] <amell_> Is it?
[14:15] <Reb-SM3ULC> yepp
[14:15] <garymortimer_> very cool watching that in South Africa, very cool
[14:15] <Reb-SM3ULC> at least on the video...
[14:16] <amell_> Oh yeah
[14:16] <amell_> Just looked
[14:16] <amell_> Hardly any wind
[14:16] <amell_> Straight up
[14:17] <christop_> !dial EARS
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): none
[14:18] <amell_> Only 2 hours late lol
[14:18] <garymortimer_> students...
[14:18] <christop_> lol
[14:18] <amell_> Looks about 1000-1500 ft to me surely someone is receiving?
[14:19] <Reb-SM3ULC> GK8NN
[14:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/EARS_HAB_2_20150607/
[14:19] <amell_> blimey, that's a long sentence
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[14:21] <fox123> hallo all, please how frequency and mode UBSEDS6
[14:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload ubsed6
[14:21] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[14:22] <Neil_M0CJM> So how do we hear this baby as not seen any frequencies posted
[14:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload ubseds6
[14:22] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Payload 03UBSEDS6 10(562a) 03$$UBSEDS6 - 03RTTY every 1 minute - 03434.6 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/400Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[14:22] <fox123> TNX 73
[14:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its in the dl-fldigi flight list you may need to update it
[14:23] <fox123> TNX 73 TU G8DHE
[14:23] <amell_> !payload EARS
[14:23] <SpacenearUS> 03amell_: Payload 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508) 03$$EARS - 03RTTY Telemetry - 03434.275 MHz USB 03RTTY 300/425Hz ASCII-7 none 1.5
[14:23] <christop_> !dial ears
[14:23] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): none
[14:23] <G0WXI> G8KNN are you trying to decode EARS?
[14:23] <amell_> 7n1.5?!?
[14:24] <Geoff-G8DHE> set it for 7N1
[14:24] <G8KNN> EARS is not very strong here despite being very close
[14:25] <G0WXI> I wonder how long they will Rx it for?
[14:25] <G8KNN> Some very deep fades during each transmission
[14:25] <amell_> G8KNN: it's a bit of an unusual looking payload
[14:26] <G0WXI> If neither of us can decode, I don't think it will have much range
[14:26] <G8KNN> amell_: yes, did you see what antenna it was using?
[14:27] <amell_> I saw them connect a four wire cross.
[14:27] <amell_> I didn't see the one that goes down.
[14:27] <amell_> But then I wasn't looking closely
[14:28] <G8KNN> ah, so perhaps a ground plane without a driven element :-(
[14:28] <amell_> They looked like they knew what they were doing lol so I wandered off to look at rockets
[14:29] <G0WXI> the initial unmodulated carrier looks pretty reasonable, but the Modulation has issues? So perhaps aerial is OK?
[14:29] <G8FJG_Ron> got one green!...v qsb not a lot of v.pol here best h pol??
[14:30] <G8KNN> could be, but I am seeing deep fades here
[14:31] <amell_> Payload looked complicated.
[14:31] <christop_> I can hear it just but no chance i'll decode
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[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ears
[14:33] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): 03434.27561 MHz, 434.64117 MHz, 434.27602 MHz
[14:33] <Reb-SM3ULC> url to their other live stream?
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[14:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its a create an account job here http://livestream.com/accounts/13750456/events/4110227
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[14:35] <Reb-SM3ULC> argh, annoying...
[14:35] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
[14:37] <Reb-SM3ULC> Geoff-G8DHE: big thanks. never seen before...
[14:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> they haven't driven away yet ;-)
[14:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EARS_car_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EARS_car_chase
[14:37] <garymortimer_> Strange choice to use for live streaming, I
[14:38] <garymortimer_> I'm also not inclined to sign up for stuff, that 10 minute email cool
[14:38] <G8KNN> EARS is clearly visible from the front garden
[14:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Use it all the time for when I don't want to sign up for spam!
[14:38] Nick change: Lunar_LanderA -> Lunar_Lander
[14:39] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ears
[14:39] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): 03434.64117 MHz, 434.27561 MHz, 434.27602 MHz
[14:40] <garymortimer_> I used to fly balloons from Long Stanton golf course so know the area very well that its over at the minute. But not for too much longer danger lies out to the East and the folk of the fens
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[14:43] <garymortimer_> Its belting on, 70 odd miles an hour hard to chase
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[14:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EARS_Chase_Van_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EARS_Chase_Van_chase
[14:45] <Reb-SM3ULC> they had two chasecars right?
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[14:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> just able to see the carrier on the wf on the South Coast not very strong at all
[14:47] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EARS_Van_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EARS_Van_chase
[14:47] <christop_> !dial ears
[14:47] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): 03434.27602 MHz, 434.27561 MHz, 434.64117 MHz
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[14:49] <j0nnymac> hmmm connectivity not quite as awesome as first hoped
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[14:52] <j0nnymac> hmm seems ok now
[14:53] <j0nnymac> just in case - could i get a 'hello' ping back?
[14:54] <christop_> j0nnymac : Hello
[14:54] <Reb-SM3ULC> j0nnymac: ello
[14:54] <j0nnymac> thanks!
[14:54] <j0nnymac> got it
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[14:55] <christop_> at last one decode
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[14:57] <G8KNN> EARS has died?
[14:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup looks like it
[14:58] <G8FJG_Ron> gone here
[14:58] <garymortimer_> Oh dear
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[14:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/EARS_HAB_2_20150607/index.php?ind=3
[14:59] <christop_> Just as i get one succesful decode it seems t have gone.
[15:00] <garymortimer_> what would be the plan, proceed towards predicted landing and hope?
[15:00] <christop_> Maybe they have a backup GSM/GPS?
[15:04] <Reb-SM3ULC> was it one radio and three fqs?
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[15:06] <Geoff-G8DHE> On the current prediction look up at the Cathedral spire!
[15:06] <craag> ears-van: Do you have a backup?
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[15:07] <craag> (people are reporting they've lost the signal)
[15:08] <gonzo_> anyone have a dial for ears?
[15:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial ears
[15:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): 03434.651 MHz, 434.27602 MHz, 434.27561 MHz
[15:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> <<2015-06-07T14:57Z RTTY @ 434276152+1004>>
[15:09] <gonzo_> ta
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[15:10] <ears-van> hi guys we do have a backup signal but it's on a phone, so we won't be able to get it until it's on the ground
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[15:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Humm it was just at 12Km height ...... I wonder ??
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> something at the tropopause?
[15:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> GPS limits ?
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> that should be at 18 km
[15:12] <craag> Well that shouldn't have knocked out hte radio :P
[15:12] <ears-van> yeah not sure what happened... the other data seems to be fine
[15:12] <ears-van> the radio will keep transmitting if it loses gps lock
[15:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> right just a thought
[15:13] <craag> Lunar_Lander: The ubloxes in pedestrian mode top out at 12km
[15:13] <craag> Which some of the example code configures them to I think
[15:13] <Lunar_Lander> oh
[15:14] <ears-van> the 700-ish ms number means the flight computer is operating nominally
[15:15] <ears-van> I don't recall which example I used but the same configuration ran last year's computer up to 30km ish, with gps fix all the way more or less...
[15:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> which GPS unit is it ?
[15:16] <ears-van> is anyone getting any identifiable data that's just poor quality, or is it just nothing?
[15:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothing at all
[15:16] <christop_> Nothing
[15:16] <craag> ears-van: If you're using an NTX2, it's likely to be a hardware failure then
[15:16] <christop_> just cut out after i go thte last decode
[15:16] <craag> like - batteries got bumped
[15:16] <craag> fingers-crossed they get bumped back ;)
[15:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> last two sentences at the bottom of the wf here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/EARS_HAB_2_20150607/Screenshot-2015-06-07-155826.png
[15:17] <christop_> The last data i got was in fact $$EARS$3454<1:uuz735d63>84,00p039.28438,11244.2,748,0,-50,-19,18,28,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,36,5804*5b27
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[15:18] <craag> ears-van: What transmitter are you using?
[15:19] <ears-van> it is an mtx2 I think
[15:20] <ears-van> I have a feeling we've damaged the whip during handling and launch, a snap near the top of the wire... that could easily kill the radio right?
[15:20] <craag> It would kill any resultant signal at a decent range
[15:21] <craag> not the radio itself, but the range would be so reduced you couldn't hear it
[15:21] <craag> So that could be it..
[15:22] <ears-van> That matches what we had at launch... packets were fine on the field but faded away quickly as it flew
[15:22] <craag> What antenna design did you use?
[15:24] <craag> People had been reporting that the signal faded in/out a lot
[15:24] <craag> Oh well
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[15:24] <craag> finger crossed it comes back, else a test for your backup!
[15:25] <ears-van> it was just a stripped bit of coax with a cross-style ground plane soldered to it
[15:25] <Reb-SM3ULC> ears-van: backup-tracker?
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[15:27] <ears-van> our backup is an android phone on internal battery with a "find-me" app so should work fine once it drops back into range
[15:27] <Reb-SM3ULC> oki
[15:28] <craag> ears-van: You've got the predicted landing site to head for?
[15:28] <craag> If you're lucky you might hear the rtty as it comes near you again
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[15:29] <Upu> wow UBSEDS6 is going a bit
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[15:31] <Reb-SM3ULC> any possible trackers close to norwich?
[15:31] <Upu> whats up with EARS ?
[15:31] <craag> Has someone pinged Brian?
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[15:31] <Upu> nope craag
[15:31] <craag> Don't think he's had one his way in a while
[15:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G8KHW_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=G8KHW_chase
[15:32] <craag> EARS they reckon antenna damage
[15:32] <craag> signal disappeared
[15:32] <craag> They've got an android phone app backup.
[15:32] <Upu> 11km then it dies with antenna damage ?
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[15:33] <craag> Apparently it wasn't well soldered and was hit during launch
[15:33] <M0UKD> What freq is EARS on? 434.275 USB dial?
[15:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> <<2015-06-07T14:57Z RTTY @ 434276152+1004>>
[15:34] <G8FJG_Ron> 434.276.050
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[15:35] <M0UKD> G8FJG_Ron: thanks
[15:36] <m0taz> Nothing here (JO01) so i guess like others its not rx. Must make it hard for the chase car !
[15:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nothing heard of DOGE2 then ?
[15:41] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: https://twitter.com/madlabuk/status/607527699519799296
[15:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah missed it
[15:41] <craag> "Launch has been cancelled due to supply issues"
[15:42] <_charlie> Doge XD
[15:43] <Upu> ran out of beer
[15:43] <Upu> or alarm clocks
[15:43] <_charlie> lol
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[15:44] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2HHE-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2HHE-1
[15:45] <Garymortimer> I hope we get to see a successful set of recovery pics. Or at least some fenland real ales quaffed
[15:45] <_charlie> Isnt there a Whiskey distillery around there?
[15:47] <Geoff-G8DHE> Humm signal appeared here <<2015-06-07T15:47Z RTTY @ 434277048+1000>> right spacing
[15:48] <Garymortimer> Wow that's cool, dont worry students will find it
[15:49] <_charlie> XD
[15:49] <_charlie> UBSEDS doing real great
[15:52] <pd3t> !flights
[15:52] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Current flights: 03RAJ-0 launch 10(8c6c), 03EARS HAB 2 10(8508), 03DOGE2 10(65fb), 03XABEN-90 10(5c2a), 03UBSEDS6 434.600 RTTY, CONTESTIA 32/1000 10(562a), 03144.7MHz RTTY100bd/450/7n2 10(0daa)
[15:52] <Reb-SM3ULC> _charlie: yes, but could come up a bit to the north.. :)
[15:53] <pd3t> !dial EARS
[15:53] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Latest dials for 03EARS_FlightComp_v2 10(8508): 03434.651 MHz, 434.27602 MHz, 434.27561 MHz
[15:53] <pd3t> !dial EARS HAB 2
[15:53] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[15:53] <pd3t> !dial "EARS HAB 2"
[15:53] <SpacenearUS> 03pd3t: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[15:53] <_charlie> I'll see what I can arrange, Reb ;)
[15:54] <craag> pd3t: 434.276, but it's disappeared.
[15:56] <pd3t> indeed it did ;) nothing here on the sdr either ;)
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[16:10] <SA6BSS> I sent a sms to sm7dse , he´s just got online
[16:11] <_charlie> Really need to recruit some guys in Denmark and Germany ;)
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[16:11] <_charlie> nice one SA6BSS
[16:11] <SA6BSS> I can mail oz1sky as well if you like
[16:12] <_charlie> It's by no means my balloon, but why not :D
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[16:14] <G0WXI> Anyone know if XABEN-90 still launching?
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[16:16] <christopherlee> My understanding was only EARS as lack of GAS for other flights
[16:16] <christopherlee> eg EARS took more gas than expected
[16:18] <G0WXI> OK, thanks
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[16:21] <Reb-SM3ULC> any news from the Ears on the ground?
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[16:38] <daveake> Hopefully someone has their ears to the ground
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[16:45] <PE2G> UBSEDS6's speed has gone up to 140 km/h: http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/UBSEDS6#g/_speed
[16:50] <_charlie> it's doing well for sure
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[16:54] <DL1SGP> looks good
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[16:55] <DL1SGP> I gonna reconnect ant and try to decode UBSED from norther germany
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[16:55] <PE2G> OK, it'll move out of my range faster than I expected.
[16:56] <_charlie> nice one
[16:58] <PE2G> Stable RTTY and Contestia signals with hardly any freq drift
[16:59] <_charlie> youre getting a great range on that, PE2G
[16:59] <_charlie> What setup do you have?
[17:00] <PE2G> 7 elements yagi at 38 m above groundlevel
[17:00] <_charlie> nice
[17:01] <PE2G> Rx is FT-790R
[17:01] <PE2G> old but still good
[17:04] <_charlie> yeah, clearly works very well
[17:06] <PE2G> Elevation now only 0.1 deg: http://s13.postimg.org/bj9allzc7/07_06_15_19_04_51.png
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[17:08] <_charlie> cool
[17:09] <DL1SGP> qrg?
[17:10] <DL1SGP> !dial
[17:10] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[17:10] <DL1SGP> !dial ubsed
[17:10] <SpacenearUS> 03DL1SGP: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[17:10] <DL1SGP> grr
[17:10] <PE2G> 434.599.7 MHz
[17:10] <PE2BZ-2> !dial ubseds6
[17:10] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ-2: Latest dials for 03UBSEDS6 10(562a): 0322.279601 MHz
[17:11] <PE2G> For 1100 Hz center
[17:11] <DL1SGP> will have to dinner first bdankt jou pe2g
[17:12] <PE2G> Guten Appetit DL1SGP
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[17:16] <Reb-SM3ULC> steady at 150 km/h. fast lane..
[17:22] <christopherlee> Any news on EARS?
[17:24] <_charlie> SM7 made conatct yay
[17:27] <DL1SGP> yay
[17:27] <DL1SGP> end of dinner
[17:27] <DL1SGP> 3 dishes in 16 minutes :D
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[17:34] Action: DL1SGP will need to renew a connector on the roof
[17:35] <PE2G> I lost UBSEDS6's RTTY and a few minutes later Contestia
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[17:45] <_charlie> we need to recruit someone in Finland... :D
[17:45] <Reb-SM3ULC> theere are many.. just have to be activated
[17:45] <Reb-SM3ULC> maybe a ping to Sven/DL7AD..
[17:46] <Reb-SM3ULC> seems to just touch the south side..
[17:46] <Reb-SM3ULC> ping x-f
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[17:48] <_charlie> nice one
[17:48] <_charlie> Whats the weather like for you?
[17:50] <Lunar_Lander> who did DOGE-2?
[17:50] <Lunar_Lander> oh sorry
[17:50] <Lunar_Lander> UBSEDS6
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[17:51] <garymortimer> Just back from the hospital, I see the EARS chaps driving about a bit did the android tracker work??
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[17:51] <Lunar_Lander> wb
[17:52] <_charlie> @ Lunar_Lander it is richardeoin
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> nice :)
[17:52] <richardeoin> Hey Lunar_Lander
[17:52] <_charlie> dont know gary :(
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> resembles Leo's flights
[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> are you flying a pico richard?
[17:52] <garymortimer> Loving the mud in the river to the right of the red chase van on sat images
[17:53] <Reb-SM3ULC> i shot a mail to Sven
[17:53] <_charlie> nice Reb
[17:53] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[17:53] <richardeoin> Yeah, the payload is a similar type to Leo's
[17:53] <_charlie> the man himself!
[17:54] <richardeoin> 12g when I weighed it this morning, not quite Leo standard
[17:54] <Reb-SM3ULC> speed is climbing
[17:54] <_charlie> how many times around the world it goes, will be the teller ;)
[17:54] <Vaizki> Finland mentioned?
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[17:54] <Vaizki> ah.. pico coming this way
[17:55] <_charlie> richard, it will be the weight of the jtag header. What you need is a pcb with a snap off jtag tag. B) ;)
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[17:55] <Reb-SM3ULC> Vaizki: sri for being a goldfish... qth?
[17:55] <Vaizki> goldfish?
[17:56] <Vaizki> I'm in Espoo, Finland.. and qth you too! :)
[17:56] <richardeoin> Haha let me get my scales and weight a tag header ;-)
[17:56] <richardeoin> *a jtag header
[17:57] <_charlie> :D
[17:57] <Reb-SM3ULC> Vaizki: 2 second memory .. :)
[17:57] <Reb-SM3ULC> Vaizki: in stockholm here
[17:57] <Lunar_Lander> richardeoin, cool!
[17:59] <garymortimer> EARS car further down stream I hope its not floating in teh river
[17:59] <_charlie> "in 200 yards, go straight ahead" "are you sure??" ;)
[18:00] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[18:00] <Lunar_Lander> there had been satnav errors in the past
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[18:00] <ears-van> haha yeah it's 6 miles in the ocean
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[18:01] <_charlie> really? O.o
[18:01] <ears-van> 52.67810047, 1.86941273 and moving very slowly so definitely touched down
[18:01] <richardeoin> 0.13g + solder + pcb land I think _charlie
[18:01] <richardeoin> not too heavy
[18:01] <ears-van> on the plus side backup tracker works perfectly
[18:01] <Reb-SM3ULC> ears-van: oh, great at least to have some answer.. :)
[18:01] <_charlie> probably offset by the components for the osc
[18:02] <_charlie> Hope it washes up for you guys soon
[18:02] <richardeoin> The battery contacts are 0.7g each though, they're a prime target for weight saving
[18:02] <_charlie> how long do expect to get updates from it?
[18:02] <_charlie> yeah
[18:03] <_charlie> problem with saving space on the pcb as it is, is that you cant make it smaller for the battery contacts
[18:03] <Vaizki> there is no hysplit for UBSEDS6?
[18:03] <x-f> pong Reb-SM3ULC
[18:04] <richardeoin> Until the battery dies or the balloon fails or it goes out of range
[18:05] <Vaizki> oh it's not solar?
[18:05] <richardeoin> from my guesses at the discharge / temperature curve of the battery it's maybe at 60-70% battery
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[18:10] <Reb-SM3ULC> x-f: hello! might heear UBSEDS6?
[18:10] <richardeoin> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9tySl8an/ubseds6_back.JPG
[18:10] <richardeoin> Here's those heavy battery contacts
[18:11] <_charlie> probably weigh more than a couple of small PV cells
[18:11] <garymortimer> @earsvan will you wait for the tide or search out a salty sea dog for the rescue
[18:11] <craag> Congrats on the float richardeoin !
[18:12] <Vaizki> and earsvan...
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[18:12] <richardeoin> Ah thank you craag
[18:12] <richardeoin> third time lucky :-p
[18:12] <Vaizki> richardeoin: so it's battery powered, not solar?
[18:12] <craag> looks like the pre-stretching did the job
[18:13] <richardeoin> Yep Vaizki, just a AAA non-rechargable lithium
[18:13] <Vaizki> will probably run out of juice before it gets to Finland?
[18:14] <craag> Vaizki: From the battery curve - you might be in luck
[18:14] <richardeoin> Yeah, it's still at 1.39V
[18:15] <Lunar_Lander> do you have solar onboard?
[18:15] <x-f> Vaizki, http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/175191_trj001.gif
[18:15] <richardeoin> Hmm how long until it hits darkness?
[18:15] <x-f> i'll leave my radio running, but i won't be able stay awake
[18:15] <craag> 2 hours maybe?
[18:16] <richardeoin> No Lunar_Lander, but it's planned for future flights
[18:16] <Lunar_Lander> ah
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[18:17] <Reb-SM3ULC> richardeoin: it won't get dark as winter-dark.. dark greyish is more like it
[18:18] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: any sign of the signal?
[18:19] <richardeoin> Ah okay Reb-SM3ULC. It started getting light again while I was preparing the tracker last night! That was about 3:30 local
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[18:19] <craag> richardeoin: The sooner you implement solar, the sooner people will stop asking about it :P
[18:20] <_charlie> Richard, what thickness pcb did you use?
[18:20] <_charlie> 1mm?
[18:20] <richardeoin> craag: :P
[18:21] <richardeoin> yep, I went for 1mm on these _charlie
[18:21] <richardeoin> doesn't make much of a difference tbh
[18:21] <_charlie> just pinged you an email
[18:23] <Reb-SM3ULC> richardeoin: aim a summer-balloon to go north of the polar-circle and the midnight sun... :)
[18:24] <_charlie> can many people pick it up when it's that far north?
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[18:26] <Vaizki> I have a RA friend who lives well above the arctic circle
[18:26] <Vaizki> x-f: thanks
[18:27] <Vaizki> with that trajectory I'm unlikely to catch it even if it's alive
[18:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> Reb-SM3ULC: yes can se it and get parcial from the contestia tx
[18:28] <_charlie> wow
[18:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Tjane Mike
[18:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> Hallå Brian
[18:30] <Vaizki> SA6BSS-Mike: you have a 20 element yagi with mast mounted LNA? :)
[18:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep
[18:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> beautiful signal from UBSEDS6, no drift and easy decodes
[18:31] <Vaizki> well that's.. quite different.. from mine :)
[18:31] <Upu> !hysplit run UBSEDS6
[18:31] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[18:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> when it passes Malmö and 70km east I will have a free los, will brobably decode well there
[18:33] <Vaizki> I have a summer cabin at KO19GV
[18:33] <Vaizki> definitely need to set up a remote station there
[18:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Mike you should be in range now?
[18:38] <Vaizki> it will be like 3am here when I am in range.. P
[18:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> You got time for coffe then :-)
[18:43] <Vaizki> well I would need to go on the roof to set up the antenna first :)
[18:43] <Vaizki> I have a discone up in my only antenna mount, it's not terribly good for long distance UHF
[18:44] <_charlie> at least it wont get _too_ dark for you, so far north :)
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[18:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> OZ1SKY_Brian: have a hill to the south
[18:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ah ok i see
[18:50] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Vaizki no a dualband vhf/uhf would do better
[18:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> or just single band uhf gp
[18:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> easy to make though
[18:52] <Vaizki> yea I have a X50NA which goes in the same mount
[18:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes that should do alot better
[18:52] <Vaizki> basically the mounting tube is the same on the discone and the dualband
[18:52] <Vaizki> so remove one screw, drop in the other antenna
[18:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> yay green :)
[18:53] <Vaizki> but I really need to make a decent antenna mast for the roof
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[19:07] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Mike remember to turn off rxid in one of the tracking windows, if you want to decode both modes, or else the RTTY window switch eash time the tx goes to contestia mode.
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[19:13] <infaddict> tried another long range payload test today, this time using the AirSpy. Much better! Receiving loud and clear over 1.5 miles away even over a hill and thru trees/houses!
[19:14] <infaddict> So it was definitely the cheap dongle causing my problems
[19:14] <prog> in case you're using sdr#, there's a new version available
[19:15] <infaddict> hey prog. i wasnt today, but its on my backup machine so will update.
[19:15] <prog> 1339
[19:16] <infaddict> i am wondering if 1.5 miles is a good enough test or whether I need to find a better location with longer line of sight distance? any thoughts appreciated.
[19:16] <SA6BSS-Mike> hehe, my god, I was using my adsb anrtenna, gahhh grrrr no wonder I had problem recieving
[19:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol yeah thats not working well
[19:17] <infaddict> prog, any idea how much the airspy would dislike being velcro'd to back of laptop screen? think interference etc.
[19:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> got about 5dB SNR left on Contestia mode.
[19:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 2dB on last tx, going soon
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[19:20] <prog> infaddict: I can't say
[19:20] <infaddict> guess i can try it easy enough ;-)
[19:21] <infaddict> just thinking of easiest ways to carry AirSpy, HabAmp, Laptop and Yagi around. Can easily put the AirSpy and HamAmp in a rucksuck or something.
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[19:26] <Vaizki> infaddict: so how is airspy working for yoy?
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[19:26] <DL7AD> good evening
[19:26] <infaddict> very well so far Vaizki. of course only used a fraction of its capabilities so far. it proved my tracker and tx antenna are fine, it was the cheap dongle causing my issues.
[19:26] <infaddict> worked over 1.5 mile away today
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[19:26] <DL7AD> does anybody know the difference in the protocol between MAX7 and MAX8?
[19:26] <Vaizki> well good
[19:27] <infaddict> yep a massive relief for me!
[19:27] <infaddict> and that 1.5 miles was over a few hills and houses/trees etc. so looking good.
[19:27] <Vaizki> now you can yagi some launches from the beach ;)
[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> hello DL7AD
[19:28] <infaddict> haha yep! i didnt realise how low my house is until doing car tests with AirSpy. Dont get much until i drive only 400 metres up the hill inland and bang, the spectrum comes alive.
[19:28] <DL7AD> hi Lunar
[19:29] <infaddict> so lessons learned: 1) cheap dongles arent great for long distance tracking with a mag mount... 2) dont buy a bungalow... 3) don't live on the coast with a hill behind you
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[19:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> RTTY docodes going red now, Contestia still going
[19:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> OTH now, UBSEDS6 doing a fine job...
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[19:46] <mfa298> infaddict: 1.5 miles is pretty decent for a ground test, especially finding locations that give you close to line of site over that range !
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[19:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Contestia went now, but 316km (rtty) vs 343km (contestia)
[19:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok make that 354km for contestia, got one more decode
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[19:52] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Gess there might be abit tropo, down to -0.3deg elev now
[19:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hhmmmm?? RTTY comming back now
[19:55] <adamgreig> sporadic E
[19:55] <adamgreig> maybe ducting
[19:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yeah tropo ducting, too close for ES and also too high freq.
[19:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> still decoding contestia at -0.4deg
[19:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok going red now
[19:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> back to green, even got the RxID
[19:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> not sure to call it or not, seems the signal just keep getting back.
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[20:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok thats it, gone
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[20:05] <Reb-SM3ULC> 181 km/h, that is fast
[20:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> yes making good speed
[20:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> how far from you is it now Reb?
[20:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> Reb-SM3ULC: have you turned you yagi?
[20:11] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: nope, coughing kids.. and my beloved hillside in between...
[20:13] <_charlie> Hopefully shouldnt be long until YL3CT picks it up
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[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 45min or so
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[20:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gn all and good luck to ubseds6
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[20:38] <_charlie> nearly 200km/h
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[20:42] <ntx2b> hello
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[20:45] <_charlie> Anyone know of a source that has uBlox M8C modules in stock?
[20:47] <Vaizki> you need the low voltage?
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[20:50] <daveake> Looks like EARS recovered
[20:50] <daveake> https://twitter.com/SurreyEARS/status/607643847292788736
[20:50] <_charlie> yep
[20:50] <daveake> I think I see why nobody else had any gas ...
[20:51] <_charlie> nice one
[20:51] <Vaizki> a black payload?
[20:51] <Vaizki> did it burn on re-entry?!
[20:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> last fron ubsed $U)SEDS6,20:48:21,56.95056,18.74095,8348,7,1
[20:52] <_charlie> yep guys in latvia just picked it up
[20:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> nice :)
[20:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> god timing
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[20:55] <Vaizki> yea and I'm going to sleep, maybe I'll leave a recording running and see if I caught anything in the morning
[20:58] <_charlie> good night :)
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[21:05] <Lunar_Lander> good progress
[21:06] <ntx2b> I have a question about the SMS module used as backup in the HAB flights...
[21:07] <ntx2b> are they standalone devices that send their coordinates by SMS?
[21:07] <daveake> can be
[21:09] <ntx2b> I was planning to use a SMS dongle but I am finding that it uses too much space
[21:09] <ntx2b> so I am looking for alternative
[21:10] <daveake> too much space?
[21:12] <ntx2b> it is too big
[21:12] <ntx2b> and is a bit heavy too
[21:12] <ntx2b> and sucks battery power needlessly
[21:12] <ntx2b> and it can only work in the last 2 KM anyway
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[21:15] <daveake> For a payload that needs a backup tracker (i.e. an expensive one with cameras) then the addition of a 3G dongle isn't going to harm the weight or size by much
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[21:15] <daveake> for small/light payloads, there's no point adding a backup
[21:16] <ntx2b> true
[21:16] <ntx2b> I do not have expensive cameras
[21:16] <ntx2b> but would like to recover the payload
[21:16] <ntx2b> :)
[21:17] <daveake> Then my recommendation is to mke sure the primary tracker works and that you can successfully track it
[21:18] <ntx2b> how do "ensure" that it works? I worry that there are so many things out there that I do not know about that can trip up my plans
[21:18] <daveake> When I do use a backup, it's a second radio tracker
[21:18] <ntx2b> I did look up the wiki and I liked the many ways to lose a payload page
[21:18] <daveake> Anything reliant on GSM is just too unreliable
[21:18] <ntx2b> ah I see
[21:18] <ntx2b> that is an interesting insight
[21:18] <ntx2b> on land, we are so used to having GSM
[21:19] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[21:19] <ntx2b> second radio tracker = ?
[21:19] <ntx2b> install another NTX2 connected to the same Raspi?
[21:19] <daveake> No an independent tracker
[21:19] <ntx2b> can you give an example please?
[21:19] <ntx2b> I am a bit confused
[21:20] <daveake> Not sure how simpler I can make it. You're flying a tracker. Fly another.
[21:20] <daveake> I have a box full
[21:21] <ntx2b> ah I see
[21:21] <ntx2b> ok
[21:21] <daveake> Usually in its own payload container a few metres down the line from the main one
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[21:22] <daveake> The Pi does have a couple of failure modes that simpler trackers don't have, so for important flights I'll fly a simple AVR tracker
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[21:24] <Reb-SM3ULC> ntx2b: get a secondary smaller simple tracker? there are ones to buy if you are not able to build pcbs yourself
[21:24] <ntx2b> do you mean like the Pi in the sky kit?
[21:24] <ntx2b> am I missing something?
[21:24] <daveake> Habduino would be a better opition
[21:25] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: the to the polish (?) store?
[21:25] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: url... :)
[21:25] <amell> lifeboat recovered payload? sheesh
[21:26] <amell> well i guess it was a good float.
[21:26] <SA6BSS-Mike> 1 sek
[21:27] <Reb-SM3ULC> amell: black payload in sea.. not so easy to spot..
[21:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://hamshop.cz/hab-and-aprs-c34/picotracker-v-3-2-pcb-i257/
[21:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> only pcb at the moment
[21:27] <amell> indeed. im surprised they found it.
[21:27] <amell> it was quite an expensive payload too.
[21:29] <daveake> What happened? Run out of gas?
[21:29] <amell> no. steve had some gas left. dont think he had enough for his own balloon
[21:29] <amell> https://twitter.com/SurreyEARS/status/607649716239769601/photo/1
[21:29] <amell> ffs.
[21:29] <daveake> so why the wet landing?
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[21:31] <amell> Not happy. I dont think lifeboats should be used to recover HABs :(
[21:32] <amell> hope they pass on the fuel costs.
[21:32] <Vaizki> SAR boats do all kinds of stuff at least here
[21:33] <Vaizki> often they are just happy to get a "real" excercise
[21:33] <Vaizki> and no, I can't sleep
[21:33] <amell> Vaizki: yes, but here they are a charity and rely on public donations.
[21:33] <Vaizki> yes here also
[21:33] <amell> It was their third call out in three days, so they are getting enough practice in without wayward HABs
[21:34] <daveake> <daveake> so why the wet landing?
[21:34] <amell> daveake: I wasnt there when it was released. I did notice it was a VERY slow ascent.
[21:34] <daveake> windy?
[21:34] <Vaizki> amell: I guess they could have said no?
[21:35] <Vaizki> get your own boat..
[21:35] <amell> seemed almost stationary, no wind. I was on the other side of that hedge thing at elsworth.
[21:36] <amell> steves car was still there when i left at 5pm. no idea what he was up to.
[21:36] <daveake> well sounds like a bad lift calculation
[21:36] <amell> maybe they did run out of gas.
[21:36] <daveake> I once grabbed a payload after letting go when I thought it was too slow
[21:36] <daveake> but actually it was just gaining momentum :)
[21:36] <daveake> heavy one that
[21:37] <amell> hop skip jump kind of thing then? :)
[21:37] <daveake> no just reach up
[21:37] <amell> payload was big, seemed to have a lot of electronics on board.
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[21:38] <daveake> yeah saw the photo
[21:38] <amell> i think it probably did go up with too little lift.
[21:38] <daveake> habitat will know if anyone cba loooking
[21:38] <amell> I was on the other side of the hedge, and the payload was maybe 1000ft up and seemed to be moving really slowly compared to previous balloons at elsworth
[21:39] <amell> Im sure steve will post an update sometime.
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[21:43] <amell> just looked at the habitat. alt change in the first 20 mins after launch was approx 200m/min
[21:44] <amell> so 3.3m/s
[21:46] <amell> daveake: 2h into the flight it was at 11km, so yes, probably not enough lift.
[21:48] <daveake> that's way slower than 3.3
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[21:52] <SpeedEvil> http://sail.planetary.org/missioncontrol
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[21:54] <amell> Speedevil: i thought they lost that
[21:54] <SpeedEvil> they think the sail is now deployed
[21:54] <amell> they think = not confidence inspiring.
[21:58] <Imnc> Transmission ended YL3CT
[21:59] <_charlie> was nice of the lifeboat guys to get it for them. :D
[22:00] <Upu> nothing else from UBSEDS6 Imnc ?
[22:01] <_charlie> would appear not :(
[22:01] <_charlie> Guess it must be dead, was so reliant before
[22:02] <Upu> cold temps can break stuff
[22:02] <Upu> but battery looked ok
[22:02] <_charlie> @ Upu, do you have a rough idea of when you'll be getting the M8C modules back in stock?
[22:02] <Upu> yeah should be soon
[22:03] <Upu> I asked for them to be delivered when I'm back from work
[22:03] <Imnc> Signal level was very high 59_10dB and stoped RTTY and Cobtestia
[22:03] <Upu> so next two weeks
[22:03] <Upu> no carrier Imnc ?
[22:03] <Ian_> Question: when Steve was lugging the gas canister across the grass from his car, where was the EARS team assistance with all their rippling muscles and the desire to do their bit?
[22:04] <_charlie> Nice one Upu, should I put in an order now and just wait a few weeks, or wait until they are back in stock?
[22:04] <Upu> welcome to put an order in and I'll ship as soon as I get them
[22:05] <amell> what is substantive diff between M8C and M8Q?
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[22:05] <Upu> C runs at lower voltages
[22:05] <amell> ah. i found the summary pdf on your site now.
[22:05] <Imnc> internal temperature very low, no carrier
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[22:06] <Upu> ok cheers Imnc
[22:06] <Imnc> 73!
[22:06] <amell> btw, the pdf says M8 does not support galileo?! really
[22:07] <craag> err yes really
[22:07] <craag> not in the current fw at least
[22:07] <amell> ucenter allows you to configure it.
[22:08] <fsphil> not a critical feature just yet anyway
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[23:01] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10228629
[23:01] <Laurenceb> bad?
[23:01] <_charlie> na :)
[23:03] <_charlie> you seen the UoBSEDs laurence?
[23:03] <Laurenceb> no?
[23:04] <_charlie> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=8&qm=1_day&mc=52.56734,0.58439&f=UBSEDS6
[23:05] <Laurenceb> ah very impressive
[23:06] <_charlie> I was thinking I might try out these solar panels http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PowerFilm-Flexible-Solar-Cells-3v-50ma-MP3-37-Fast-Delivery/201350976263?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29273%26meid%3Db0ea09deef664f799541251f5d4ef063%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D201350965942&rt=nc
[23:08] <Laurenceb> iirc Leo found that bare monocrystalline cells wer elighter
[23:09] Action: Laurenceb zzz
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[23:09] <_charlie> oh fair does
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[23:29] <_charlie> night all
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