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[00:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MTG004 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MTG004
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[00:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[03:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DL7AD-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DL7AD-11
[03:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YSP_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3YSP_chase
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[07:24] <j0nnymac> hey there
[07:25] <j0nnymac> going to check out Golden cross in the new forest
[07:25] <j0nnymac> in terms of finding it
[07:25] <j0nnymac> is it near anywhere ?
[07:25] <j0nnymac> :)
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[07:26] <j0nnymac> like a village/pub/etc?
[07:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VORTEX5 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX5
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[07:45] <j0nnymac> hey folks - is the golden cross launch site in new forest anywhere near stoney cross?
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[08:03] <gonzo_> hmm, didn't hang around long
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[08:03] <Ian_> Casting around for a place where there be dragons :)
[08:04] <gonzo_> poss found one!
[08:04] <Ian_> Probably burning up his mobile phone contacts in desperation
[08:05] <Ian_> Prior planning etc . . .
[08:07] <gonzo_> looking at the OS maps for that place, it looks like there are some big arsed grid lines going right through it
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[08:26] <DL1SGP> morning folks
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[08:34] <infaddict> morning
[08:37] <DL1SGP> good morning infaddict
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[09:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03RAJ-0 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=RAJ-0
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[09:11] <SA6BSS> looks like raj-0 going up
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[09:23] <ok1cdj> hello all
[09:23] <ok1cdj> raj-0 is flying now... 434.689 USB
[09:24] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_SKY_TEST after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI_SKY_TEST
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[09:39] <TT7> hi ok1cdj, if it goes high enough I may be able to receive it from the eastern border
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[09:42] <DL1SGP> good luck team RAJ :)
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[10:10] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YAM-1 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=YAM-1
[10:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VORTEX3 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VORTEX3
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[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03dylan_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=dylan_chase
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[12:22] <garymortimer> afternoon all, watching PiSky test from a hospital ward, third son arrived yesterday!
[12:22] <SpeedEvil> yay
[12:23] <garymortimer> yeah it pretty cool
[12:25] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
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[12:33] <garymortimer> that balloon is heading over a friends house at Colwall
[12:33] <daveake> erm, no it isn't :-)
[12:33] <daveake> The tracker is on my desk in front of me
[12:34] <daveake> It's playing back a previous flight from Elsworth, but offset to start from here
[12:34] <gonzo_> (dave, just double check the fireplace, for balloon strings!)
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[12:34] <daveake> I'm just testing (hence the payload name) some code to predict the landing spot
[12:36] <garymortimer> aha ;-)
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[13:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KB1YOF-11 after 0321 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KB1YOF-11
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[13:31] <Herman_> !dail
[13:32] <Herman_> !dial
[13:32] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:34] <Reb-SM3ULC> any info about that vortex flight/team?
[13:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W1YA-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W1YA-11
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[14:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA6TNY-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA6TNY-11
[14:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VA6TNY-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VA6TNY-12
[14:38] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD9AUK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD9AUK-11
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[14:49] <ok1cdj> ga all
[14:50] <ok1cdj> can anyone from SP look on RAJ-0 QRG ??
[14:55] <Ian_> !dial RAJ-0
[14:55] <SpacenearUS> 03Ian_: Latest dials for 03RAJ-0 10(8c6c): none
[15:01] <ok1cdj> RAJ-0 434.69MHz +/- drift USB RTTY 300 baud 450Hz shift ASCII-7 no parity 2 stop bits
[15:02] <ok1cdj> we heard CW from OK, SP boarder in with alt near 5000m
[15:02] <ok1cdj> one hour ago..
[15:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N1ME-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N1ME-11
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[15:39] <fox123> Hi OK1CDJ de OK1SLA,QTH Lomnice u Sokolova, OC JO60HF
[15:39] <ok1cdj> hi, zkus raj-0 ale vysila to slabe..
[15:39] <ok1cdj> a letelo to na severovychod..
[15:40] <fox123> u~ to zkouaím dobrou hodinu bez výsledku trx IC9100 ant X5000
[15:41] <ok1cdj> dik
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[15:47] <j0nnymac> hey
[15:51] <craag> afternoon j0nnymac
[15:52] <j0nnymac> hey hey
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[15:53] <j0nnymac> just been out to Golden Cross (seems to be the most mysterious place on the planet)
[15:54] <craag> why mysterious?
[15:54] <j0nnymac> well - was actually in it
[15:54] <craag> it's just a car park
[15:54] <craag> in an open area, that's *just* not within southampton airspace :)
[15:55] <j0nnymac> but noone who lived there seemed to know about it (is it the Turf Hill carpark)? Id show them on the map
[15:55] <j0nnymac> they all looked really surprised
[15:55] <craag> Heh, first time I went there, I waited for half an hour in the car park just south
[15:56] <j0nnymac> nooooo....
[15:56] <j0nnymac> have i been to the wrong car park?
[15:56] <craag> Then spotted a bunch of people in the car park a few hundred m away waving!
[15:56] <j0nnymac> i went to a few
[15:56] <j0nnymac> haaa
[15:56] <craag> one sec
[15:56] <infaddict> is there a lat/long for it? i'm moving down near there later this year.
[15:56] <infaddict> or is it on the predictor tool as a site?
[15:57] <j0nnymac> ill grab the coords that susfc sent on
[15:57] <j0nnymac> http://binged.it/1IjGC6x
[15:57] <j0nnymac> there we go
[15:57] <craag> http://ml.philcrump.co.uk/1d
[15:58] <j0nnymac> i think ive been to the wrong one :-0
[15:58] <craag> hmm not the place I've used
[15:58] <craag> one sec
[15:59] <infaddict> im moving to Bmth and may end up somewhere like Ringwood/New Forest
[15:59] <infaddict> so if thats a designated launch site its really close ;-)
[15:59] <infaddict> any restrictions?
[15:59] <craag> I'm getting confused
[16:00] <craag> yep you've got the right one j0nnymac I think
[16:00] <craag> infaddict: No south or east ground winds.
[16:00] <infaddict> i.e winds heading in those directions?
[16:00] <j0nnymac> yeah thats what caa told me too
[16:00] <j0nnymac> got a window
[16:00] <j0nnymac> from 11th to 18th
[16:01] <j0nnymac> hilaoriously
[16:01] <infaddict> guessing thats cos of Bmth and Sout airports
[16:01] <j0nnymac> the time is limited to 4:30 -> 5:30am
[16:01] <infaddict> yikes
[16:01] <j0nnymac> yuuup
[16:01] <craag> why so early?
[16:02] <j0nnymac> dunno..
[16:02] <craag> We've had midday notam there before
[16:02] <j0nnymac> i suspect Dave Simmons from CAA was having a ba day
[16:02] <j0nnymac> bad day
[16:02] <j0nnymac> we did mess him about a bit tho
[16:03] <j0nnymac> the lads from imperial asked him to approve 6 sites
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[16:03] <j0nnymac> 3 of which were in london
[16:03] <infaddict> haha sounds like Dave got his own back with his time restrictions!
[16:03] <j0nnymac> yep!
[16:04] <j0nnymac> so cant really blame him
[16:04] <craag> 6 sites
[16:04] <craag> wow
[16:04] <craag> yeah - doubt they liked that
[16:04] <j0nnymac> also have to submit our request for notam 3 days prior
[16:05] <j0nnymac> i think Dave had enough of us
[16:05] <j0nnymac> so said 4:30 -> 5:30 good luck with that
[16:06] <j0nnymac> i phoned him and asked him if we dropped the london ones would it make life easier
[16:06] <j0nnymac> he said it would
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[16:06] <j0nnymac> but, then punished us with the 4:30 start
[16:07] <craag> lol
[16:07] <infaddict> unless there was an airshow or other event
[16:07] <j0nnymac> so i guess it wasnt that much easier
[16:07] <craag> hence you're now looking at using cambs
[16:07] <infaddict> starting in the morning
[16:07] <j0nnymac> well... bless them, the lads from Imperial are keen to try
[16:07] <j0nnymac> even at 4:30
[16:08] <j0nnymac> and they live in london
[16:08] <j0nnymac> the reasoning is - it gives us two bites at the apple
[16:09] <j0nnymac> if conditions arnt right on the day at Golden Cross
[16:09] <j0nnymac> we can do cambridge
[16:09] <craag> sleep in til afternoon, drive down in the evening, prep, then drive out ~3am, wouldn't be too bad.
[16:09] <j0nnymac> so!!!
[16:09] <craag> :P
[16:09] <infaddict> i'd camp out ;-`0
[16:10] <craag> heh or that
[16:10] <craag> get your balloon eaten by a pony overnight...
[16:10] <j0nnymac> anyone up for a 4:30am breakfast picnic / launch event?
[16:10] <craag> What date again?
[16:10] <j0nnymac> well the window is 11th june -> 18th june
[16:10] <j0nnymac> so 1st date in that range
[16:11] <j0nnymac> with the right wind
[16:11] <j0nnymac> i.e not east
[16:11] <j0nnymac> or south
[16:11] <craag> I'm out of town over the weekend, but otherwise yeah!
[16:11] <j0nnymac> hey thats great!!!
[16:11] <craag> It'll be fun being at a launch where I don't have to stress about something :P
[16:11] <j0nnymac> you can watch us stress!!
[16:12] <craag> indeed :D
[16:12] <j0nnymac> and say 'dont let go of that balloon while you are pouring me coffee'
[16:12] <j0nnymac> encouraging stuff like that
[16:13] <j0nnymac> ooh
[16:13] <j0nnymac> do they lock the car park
[16:13] <j0nnymac> at night?
[16:13] <j0nnymac> i.e 4:30am
[16:13] <craag> Is there a gate?
[16:13] <j0nnymac> i saw a padlock on the entrance
[16:13] <j0nnymac> and it got me trhinking
[16:13] <j0nnymac> yeah,..
[16:13] <j0nnymac> well
[16:14] <j0nnymac> at the carpark i went to...
[16:14] <j0nnymac> hmm
[16:14] <mfa298> my experience in other car parks out there is you might get a new forest ranger pop by wondering what you're doing but I'm not sure many get locked (although that could depend on the car park)
[16:14] <Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/EC6pLeL.gifv
[16:14] <j0nnymac> maybe it wasnt the right car park
[16:15] <j0nnymac> is there a small pond?
[16:15] <j0nnymac> and lots of cows?
[16:15] <j0nnymac> aah grand!
[16:15] <j0nnymac> thanks Laurenceb
[16:15] <j0nnymac> & mfa298
[16:16] <_charlie> LOL
[16:16] <craag> I've never seen them locked
[16:17] <mfa298> that could describe a lot of New Forest car parks (especially the Cows/Ponies/Donkeys part)
[16:17] <infaddict> managed to grab 30 mins to test drive my new AirSpy. Getting a lot more on the waterfall than with my cheap dongle. http://s177.photobucket.com/user/infaddict/library/Misc?sort=3&page=1
[16:18] <infaddict> the last 4 screenshots in that album are with the HabAmp connected
[16:18] <infaddict> on cheap dongle was getting nothing in 430-440Mhz, but now seeing a lot
[16:18] <infaddict> this was all with a magmount on the car
[16:18] <craag> One of our radio club expeditions to the NF: http://photos.suws.org.uk/albums/outings/new-forest-26th-may-2013/img_2276.jpg
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> nice
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> new member
[16:18] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:19] <prog> infaddict: you should update the firmware when you have a chance
[16:19] <j0nnymac> class!!
[16:19] <infaddict> good point prog - hadnt thought about that yet
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[16:20] <infaddict> due to previous worries about me receiving a decent signal, can anybody comment if those last 4 pics look reasonable for a town centre 70cm band?
[16:20] <infaddict> fyi prog, good service from the uk distributor - ordered 2pm yesterday. arrived at 8.46am today!
[16:24] <prog> excellent
[16:25] <infaddict> also, any advice on how to set LNA gain, mixer gain and RF gain? I was fiddling with each to see effects.
[16:26] <infaddict> AirSpy starter guide says LNA gain=5, mixer=10. I am using Gqrx on mac so tried that first.
[16:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DOGE2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DOGE2
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[16:31] <prog> just use the tuning method in the quick start
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[16:33] <infaddict> 1) Set the IF Gain to 5
[16:33] <infaddict> 2) Set the Mixer to 10
[16:33] <infaddict> 3) Optimize the LNA for the best SNR (the difference between the top of the signal and the noise floor)
[16:33] <infaddict> 4) Adjust the IF so the noise floor stays at just over -80dBFS
[16:33] <infaddict> 5) Use the Mixer gain for fine tuning the gain
[16:33] <infaddict> is that what you mean prog?
[16:33] <prog> yes
[16:33] <infaddict> ok thx
[16:33] <prog> well, that's for sdr#
[16:33] <prog> gqrx doesn't display in dBFS
[16:33] <infaddict> sure, the 3 same settings are on Gqrx, although numbers could be different. i will mess around
[16:34] <infaddict> yer i have a windows laptop too with SDR# so I am going to try both to see which I prefer
[16:34] <infaddict> its a fairly old windows laptop although is an i7 and running win 7. the command line tools report around 9.5 which might be ok.
[16:34] <prog> the decimation setting can be useful for you
[16:35] <prog> 9.5 is not OK
[16:35] <infaddict> right, wasnt sure. the guide says 10 minimum i think.
[16:35] <prog> there will be a new firmware with bit packing
[16:35] <prog> you may want to test it with sdr#
[16:36] <infaddict> i just flattened the machine and reinstalled windows so will check the USB drivers
[16:36] <prog> yep
[16:36] <infaddict> and try the manufacturers instead of MS
[16:36] <prog> yep
[16:36] <infaddict> i would prefer to use windows/sdr# on a cheaper machine, rather than taking my expensive macbook out in the field
[16:37] <infaddict> so looking at some second hand thinkpads or netbooks
[16:37] <prog> fix the drivers
[16:38] <prog> I will push a new firmware soon
[16:38] <infaddict> yep will try that first of course. so decimation gives me improved resolution? i dont particularly need all the bandwidth.
[16:43] <prog> give it a tru
[16:43] <prog> it improves the dynamic range also
[16:45] <infaddict> thx prog. is it worth a firmwire update next few days or is the new one imminent?
[16:52] <prog> updating is free
[16:53] <prog> update now and later when the new firmware is ready
[16:56] <infaddict> sure thx. bbl...
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[16:57] <j0nnymac> quick q?
[16:58] <j0nnymac> what the 3g like over in Golden Cross
[16:58] <j0nnymac> ?
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[17:02] <j0nnymac> hmm browser crashed
[17:02] <j0nnymac> anyone know that the 3g coverage is like in Golden Cross?
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[20:25] <TT7> hello everybody
[20:26] <TT7> any suggestion for a hab proven 3.3v step down converter for a lipol battery?
[20:27] <Upu> why lipo ?
[20:28] <TT7> they are light, I have one... what batteries are generally used?
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[20:28] <Upu> Energizer Lithiums always
[20:28] <Upu> L91/L92
[20:29] <Upu> unless you're doing something clever and solar/recharging go with Energizer Ultimate Lithiums
[20:29] <TT7> oh I use those, but I need rechargeable one this time
[20:30] <Upu> they don't charge below 0'C
[20:30] <TT7> that's exactly what I am trying to do :)
[20:30] <Upu> just pick a decent buck convertor
[20:30] <Upu> rated to -40'C
[20:32] <TT7> I am looking through a local supplier's offers and there's about a thousand of converters, so I was looking for something to narrow it down
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[20:42] <Upu> TPS62291
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[20:43] <TT7> thx Upu
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[21:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> ping craag
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[21:47] <craag> Geoff-G8DHE: pong
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