highaltitude.log.20150530

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[00:14] <russss> what the fuck http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150526-software-glitch-pauses-ls-test.html
[00:15] <russss> so, there was some kind of overflow which crashed the flight software, which they didn't test for. And there wasn't a watchdog timer. So they now have to wait for a cosmic ray to hit the reset button?
[00:16] <adamgreig> yea, we were all baffled by this a little earlier today
[00:16] <adamgreig> seems somewhat staggering
[00:16] <adamgreig> as I understand it, it's a bug in the firmware of a commercial avionics module they bought rather than wrote
[00:16] <adamgreig> not that it changes much
[00:16] <russss> did they not leave it switched on for a few days
[00:16] <adamgreig> apparently not!
[00:16] <adamgreig> it does seem incredible
[00:17] <adamgreig> did you see the part about the suggested fix?
[00:17] <adamgreig> "In the meantime, the team is looking at several fixes to work around the software vulnerability once contact is reestablished. One is a Linux file redirect that would send the contents of the troublesome beacon.csv file to a null location, a sort-of software black hole. Lab testing on this fix has been promisingover a gigabyte of beacon packets have already been sent into nothingness without a
[00:17] <adamgreig> system freeze."
[00:18] <russss> wtf
[00:18] <adamgreig> better keep testing that /dev/null though, in case it fills up
[00:18] <russss> ln -s /dev/null /var/log/beacon.csv
[00:18] <adamgreig> it's already safely thrown over a gigabyte of packets on the floor
[00:18] <adamgreig> baffling
[00:18] <russss> To be fair I wasn't around earlier because I was building a (set for a) space station.
[00:18] <adamgreig> every detail just raises further questions
[00:19] <adamgreig> I saw your somewhat vague tweet :P
[00:19] <RealBorg> As more beacons are transmitted, the file grows in size. When it reaches 32 megabytes—roughly the size of ten compressed music files—it can crash the flight system.
[00:19] <RealBorg> ROTFLMAO
[00:19] <adamgreig> probably better quality software in the bikeshed from the looks of things
[00:19] <russss> adamgreig: probably yeah, it will probably run for longer.
[00:20] <adamgreig> I wonder why 32MB was the magic cutoff, too
[00:20] <adamgreig> it's not an obvious limit
[00:20] <adamgreig> my written-overnight rocket avionics is in dubious C and manages more than 32MB of packet log files :P
[00:20] <RealBorg> probably it's not CSV but some fixed length record
[00:20] <adamgreig> it's literally a file called beacon.csv
[00:20] <adamgreig> I'd hope it was at least a CSV!
[00:20] <adamgreig> haha, plot twist: it's actually XML
[00:21] <RealBorg> that would explain everything ;)
[00:21] <adamgreig> russss: a space station, though, eh?
[00:21] <RealBorg> well, actually, osm processes gigabytes of xml with no such problems
[00:21] <adamgreig> sounds like a fun upgrade
[00:22] <lz1dev> x/fq 13
[00:22] <RealBorg> "iss? could you send someone out to press the reset button on our satellite?"
[00:22] <russss> adamgreig: it's not fully public yet, but there is a space station escape game in the works, which involves hexagonal-profile corridors. Hence some rather specialist set design
[00:22] <adamgreig> oh my goodness :D
[00:23] <russss> there will be a kickstarter hopefully next week
[00:23] <lz1dev> so that sat
[00:23] <lz1dev> is basically a bash script?
[00:23] <lz1dev> > file.csv :)
[00:23] <russss> but there's a *lot* of metalworking involved
[00:24] <russss> the stuff we're doing this weekend is just a small amount of set to film the kickstarter video...
[00:24] <adamgreig> sounds like fun
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[00:24] <adamgreig> it's amazing how quickly work multiplies, right? when you have to process a hundred pieces of metal instead of just one or two
[00:25] <russss> something like 450 holes drilled and 60 welds
[00:25] <adamgreig> is the welding still fun by the 60th?
[00:25] <adamgreig> I certainly get pretty sick of drilling and sawing by the fourth or fifth hour
[00:25] <russss> I was just drilling today. All the drilling is done now but the welder was in use
[00:26] <russss> then the panels need riveting on and painting, and there seems to be an east london plywood shortage...
[00:27] <russss> anyway, I'm off on an EMF 2016 site visit tomorrow
[00:27] <adamgreig> this all sounds great though
[00:27] <adamgreig> ooh
[00:27] <adamgreig> are the potential site(s) public? is it still going to be same as last time?
[00:27] <russss> previous site is a possibility, but we are looking at two more in Surrey
[00:27] <adamgreig> cool
[00:28] <russss> the previous site wants us to tell them by the end of July so they can plant appropriate crops
[00:28] <russss> so we should know the site by August, and hopefully ticket sales shortly afterwards
[00:28] <fsphil> EMF is tempting
[00:28] <adamgreig> nice, pretty soon!
[00:29] <adamgreig> fsphil: oh you should come
[00:29] <fsphil> yea I never got to the last few
[00:30] <russss> it will likely be August 2016, and not the weekend of the 27/28
[00:31] Action: adamgreig marks calendar
[00:31] <adamgreig> time to start planning something involving even more work than the grid
[00:32] <russss> heh
[00:32] <adamgreig> I felt bad that we didn't need more than 13A 240V last time :P
[00:33] <russss> at EMF we are going incrementally up in capacity next time, so I am interested in stuff which makes the site more interesting
[00:34] <russss> we want something which is similarly-sized but better :)
[00:36] <adamgreig> seems like you were doing pretty well last year by all accounts
[00:36] <russss> we didn't make much money
[00:37] <russss> we're up a few thousand by accounting terms, but that's mostly due to exceess badges we need to sell
[00:37] <russss> there's about £3500 in the bank after tax
[00:37] <adamgreig> kind of horrifying how close it all balances out but I guess that's the point of budgets
[00:38] <russss> we aimed for a £10k surplus, and we started out with £6000.
[00:38] <russss> and that's on a £180,000 revenue, so it's a bit terrifying.
[00:40] <adamgreig> yep
[00:40] <adamgreig> hoping to get more cash in hand by opening ticket sales that much earlier this time around?
[00:41] <russss> getting started earlier will help
[00:41] <russss> I had to lend the company £12k during the event due to a sponsor not paying up on time. Good job I had that lying around...
[00:42] <russss> events are terrifying. I'm not sure if I just do it because of the adrenaline rush.
[00:43] <adamgreig> I hope you felt it was worth it!
[00:43] <fsphil> ooch
[00:43] <adamgreig> not least because that satisfaction is presumably the only reward you get for all the stress and time and effort and money :P
[00:43] <russss> adamgreig: at that point it didn't feel like it had too much risk, but I might have had some bias on that
[00:44] <russss> I believe the CCC in Germany is interested in bankrolling us a bit in the future
[00:46] <adamgreig> huh, nice
[00:46] <adamgreig> how would that work out? it seems very nice but a bit outside their usual remit?
[00:47] <russss> they'd give us a cashflow loan, which they're happy to write off if things go bad
[00:47] <russss> they have shitloads of money
[00:48] <russss> they're running a 5000+ person camp in August and they haven't started selling tickets yet.
[00:49] <adamgreig> must be nice
[00:53] <russss> yeah quite
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[07:23] <garymortimer> Jackal 4 in the air in RSA, the Skruffy balloon that flew around was my oppo Vic in his aeroplane, looking for collared real jackal and serval ;-)
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[08:36] <Northants> Just waiting to see if MM5 will be going up today
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[08:40] <Reb-SM3ULC> any sign of it yet?
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[08:42] <Northants> Nothing yet from MM5
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[09:03] <infaddict> Babs might be launching LARDY_PICO soon. Nothing else except MM5 today that I can see.
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[09:16] <Babs_> launch is i think going to be postponed. i'm launching out of the top of my house and need it quite still (which it is not anymore) to make sure i get clear of the surrounding houses. plus storm clouds. sorry guys.
[09:18] <infaddict> bad luck Babs, UK quite windy today.
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[09:24] <Babs_> its annoying - i'd like a bit of wind to get the thing shifting when it is up, but can't launch when it is windy
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[09:37] <Northants> Any news on MM5 ?
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[10:21] <Reb-SM3ULC> F1TKE-11 on the go
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[11:30] <anerdev> hey hey guys =D
[11:30] <anerdev> there is anyone ?
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[11:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> 185 Users according to the list!
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[11:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Nothing from MM5 then ?
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[12:00] <fsphil> mostly robots
[12:01] <SA6BSS> looks like sp5nvx it going up
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[12:01] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
[12:01] <fsphil> you are lost
[12:08] <garymortimer> Always lost here
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[12:26] <Reb-SM3ULC> !info SP5NVX
[12:26] <Reb-SM3ULC> !flight SP5NVX
[12:26] <SpacenearUS> 03Reb-SM3ULC: Flight 10(f2c1): 03437.675 RTTY300bd450/7n2 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Yesterday at 09:00 from 03Olesno County, Poland 10(51.04,18.67)
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[12:56] <Babs_> lardy-pico is up
[12:57] <Babs_> dial 434647.5
[12:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah right MM5 > Lardy then!
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[13:00] <Babs_> i had to give it some more juice to get it above the houses
[13:01] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah no flight doc ? its not in the tracj list ?
[13:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flights
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Current flights: 03437.675 RTTY300bd450/7n2 10(f2c1), 03MM5 10(b415)
[13:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !flight 7357
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> !payload lardy-pico
[13:03] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE-M: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:03] <Babs_> i had it approved this morning but then thought it was going to be scrubbed
[13:03] <Babs_> perhaps it was taken off?
[13:03] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> wouldn't have thought so you can't delete from habitat
[13:04] <Babs_> !payload LARDY-PICO
[13:04] <SpacenearUS> 03Babs_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:04] <Babs_> hmmmm. can anyone help?
[13:04] <garymortimer> Just for interest just how lardy is a lardy pico
[13:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Nothing shown up in habitat for today with lardy at alljust the 3 previous docs ?
[13:05] <Babs_> fe2e9b19aaeeb645617153749d9a7357 is the doc no.
[13:05] <Babs_> 25g
[13:05] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yup found in irc #habhub but not registered
[13:05] <Babs_> although with an AA
[13:05] <Babs_> with AAA its down to 17
[13:05] <garymortimer> Blimey mine at 50 is obese then
[13:06] <Babs_> i'm ging to lose it in a sec. - its behind some houses
[13:07] <Babs_> what do i need to do geoof?
[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I won't hear it till about 3-4Kms
[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Not sure, it appears to have been authorised but not appeared in the database ....??
[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> not seen that before
[13:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> ping lz1dev
[13:08] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah the dates are for LAST sunday!
[13:09] <garymortimer> G8KNN got it at 900m I forget just how flat old blighty is
[13:09] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Unless your on the South coast behind the Downs!
[13:10] <garymortimer> Well the you would be best placed to hear traffic in europe with little noise from the smoke on a positive note ;-)
[13:11] <Babs_> fantastic - thanks garymortimer, i was close to death hanging out of my loft room with my yaesu
[13:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> I do have that advantage!
[13:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Babs new flight doc with the right dates would enable everthing
[13:11] <Babs_> climb rate is too fast but there was no other way of getting it clear of the houses
[13:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> Can just see something in the w/f but no decode yet
[13:13] <garymortimer> wont they let you launch in the park? what frequency is it
[13:13] <Babs_> ok posted it in habhub if any of the admins are around
[13:13] <Babs_> one of the radials got twisted as if left the house
[13:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> 434648800+1000
[13:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah still got last weeks flight with the same callsign as well of course !
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[13:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/LARDY-PICO_20150530/
[13:20] <PD5TON> Payload Lardy-Pico?
[13:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload 4431
[13:20] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[13:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yea @ 2.3Kms as well
[13:21] <garymortimer> You've got it not Geoff!
[13:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> maybe not for long its in one of the valleys to the North of me, depends on climb rate
[13:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> and drift
[13:22] <Geoff-G8DHE> to the East
[13:23] <Babs_> the very definition of a launch window https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/18078079408/in/dateposted-public/
[13:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> Is that a speck on the window or the balloon ?
[13:25] <Babs_> speck on the window. you wouldn't believe i have both a wife and a cleaner
[13:25] <Babs_> this week LARDY-PICO is doing pointy pointy at Calais Ferry Port
[13:26] <garymortimer> That's pretty cool to think you can send something from there to far away.
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[13:28] <Babs_> i have a suspicion the valve bust on the one last week so have wrapped it in a bit of duck tape today
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[13:34] <Reb-SM3ULC> pse add hyplist to the sp5nvx-flight?
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[13:40] <PD5TON> Can't find payload Lardy-Pico,pse help
[13:40] <craag> PD5TON: It's on 434.650, but not transmitting all the time.
[13:41] <Babs_> transmits once a minute
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its not in the database so manual control required
[13:41] <PD5TON> tnx
[13:41] <G8FJG_Ron> Saw Lardy fly by...like a twinkling star...ahh
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> <<2015-05-30T13:41Z RTTY @ 434648759+0999>>
[13:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> 50/450 507N1
[13:45] <Babs_> serious? visul
[13:45] <Babs_> *visual?
[13:45] <Babs_> can you get a photo?
[13:47] <G8FJG_Ron> Visual...through bins....just at right angle to flash in the sun..moved too fast behind cloud
[13:48] <garymortimer> I'm lucky enough to have a bit more room, my pico launch this AM https://plus.google.com/+GaryMortimer/posts/5hwAdcixncB I used a less inflated balloon as a cheat parachute.
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[13:52] <Herman-PB0AHX> !flights
[13:52] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Current flights: 03437.675 RTTY300bd450/7n2 10(f2c1), 03MM5 10(b415)
[13:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> hello to all wat is freq from lardy-pico ??
[13:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> <<2015-05-30T13:54Z RTTY @ 434648758+1007>>
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[13:56] <Herman-PB0AHX> Geoff-G8DHE: tnx info
[13:57] <garymortimer> I hope Lardy is off to give those messy map fellows F1TKE and the like some what for.
[13:58] <Herman-PB0AHX> he is here not in the flight docs
[13:59] <Herman-PB0AHX> yes i hrd him
[13:59] <Herman-PB0AHX> green
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[14:01] <Babs_> what do the blue and green circles represent?
[14:01] <Babs_> presume one is visual horizon?
[14:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> Blue 0 degree horizon LoS Greeen 5 degree
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[14:07] <_charlie> hi
[14:08] <Herman-PB0AHX> i mist constandly the $$ in the beginning
[14:09] <fsphil> is it not continous rtty?
[14:09] <Herman-PB0AHX> i know
[14:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> one string once a minute and only two $$ lead-in
[14:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> makes it tough if its not a strong signal
[14:10] <Herman-PB0AHX> he is strong here but missing the $$
[14:10] <fsphil> ah
[14:10] <fsphil> needs more nulls
[14:10] <Ian_> Not even a preceding idle mark?
[14:10] <Herman-PB0AHX> a compleet now
[14:11] <fsphil> I'm going to call my payload $$ someday. that'll confuse everything
[14:11] <Babs_> sorry, i tried with 5 $$$$$ but the habhub string thing kept rejecting it
[14:12] <fsphil> ah you just give that two, even if you have more
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> you don't tell habhub about it
[14:12] <fsphil> to be honest the nulls (0x00) are probably better than $$'s
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2015_Flights/LARDY-PICO_20150530/index.php?ind=3
[14:12] <Herman-PB0AHX> never mind Babs_ it is working
[14:12] <Babs_> and presumably the check digit is just based on $$, then you put $$$$ in front of it as an added extra?
[14:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes thats it
[14:12] <fsphil> any extra $'s are ignored
[14:12] <fsphil> they're not part of the checksum either
[14:13] <fsphil> dl-fldigi just looks for $$CALLSIGN
[14:13] <Babs_> ok, will know for next time
[14:13] <fsphil> that or repeat the string twice
[14:13] <fsphil> er, repeat once
[14:13] <Babs_> i ended up just firing up the MTX2 for 5 seconds beforehand so it gets to warm up a bit before the transmission, and receivers can lock onto it
[14:14] <Babs_> and then, in case anyone is wondering, its just going once a minute and shutting down inbetween to try and get the battery to last as long as possible
[14:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> you can't "lockon" to a carrier, it needs the RTTY for the signal to be detected
[14:15] <Geoff-G8DHE> dl-fldigi only adjust the AFC when it sees both the Mark and Space otherwise it doesn't know the centre frequency
[14:16] <Babs_> the mtx2 does drift a bit in the first couple of seconds of transmission after it is switched on though. it was ore that that i was aiming to address
[14:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> thats fair enougth!
[14:17] <_charlie> Is this F1TKE 11?
[14:17] <Geoff-G8DHE> No were talking about LARDY-PICO
[14:18] <fsphil> try adding a couple of 0x00's before you send your string
[14:19] <fsphil> if you're using the rtty example from the wiki it would be something like rtty_txbyte(0) a few times before rtty_txstring()
[14:19] <fsphil> it helps fldigi lock into the start of the byte properly
[14:20] <Babs_> will do it next time
[14:20] <Babs_> cheers fsphil
[14:20] <fsphil> are you testing something today?
[14:21] <fsphil> I'm well behind on my eclipse payload
[14:21] <Babs_> on the flipside, how i got it launched from my launch location is a minor miracle
[14:21] <fsphil> lol
[14:21] <fsphil> do tell
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[14:23] <Babs_> https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/18078079408/in/dateposted-public/ launch window
[14:23] <fsphil> lol
[14:23] <Babs_> liderally
[14:23] <fsphil> a literal launch window
[14:24] <fsphil> well I do like to encourage people filling indoors
[14:24] <fsphil> normally with better access to outside :)
[14:24] <_charlie> O.o
[14:24] <_charlie> nice one lol
[14:24] <fsphil> I just hope someone saw it from the outside
[14:25] <fsphil> and is now really confused
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[14:25] <SP3OSJ> #habhub
[14:25] <fsphil> seriously
[14:25] <fsphil> you keep doing that?
[14:26] <Babs_> outside of the stress of getting it out of the window, the launch prep is so much easier doing it indoors
[14:26] <fsphil> yes
[14:26] <_charlie> no wind must be nice
[14:26] <fsphil> easy access to tea
[14:26] <fsphil> and biscuits
[14:27] <garymortimer> I was going to say what is the official HAB biscuit?
[14:27] <dbrooke> somehow I envisioned Babs launching from a penthouse roof garden ...
[14:27] <fsphil> or modified his roof to slide open
[14:27] <Babs_> i used to have one of those in fulham
[14:28] <Babs_> then i got a wife. baby and cats and lost my lads pad
[14:28] <fsphil> "Igor, open the balloon launch hatch!"
[14:28] <dbrooke> fsphil: the swimming pool retracting, Thunderbird style?
[14:28] <fsphil> yes!
[14:28] <_charlie> lighter than air buttermilk biscuits?
[14:29] <fsphil> Aero
[14:29] <fsphil> clearly
[14:29] <_charlie> meh those are american biscuits - aka scones :P
[14:29] <_charlie> aero yes XD
[14:29] <_charlie> Rice krispie biscuits?
[14:29] <_charlie> Snap, Crackle, Pop?
[14:29] <_charlie> :P
[14:30] <fsphil> Pop wouldn't be too popular here
[14:30] <SpeedEvil> fsphil: On the topic of sliding roofs. http://www.collectspace.com/review/spacex_demo401.jpg
[14:30] <SpeedEvil> That just screams thunderbirds
[14:30] <fsphil> oh nice
[14:31] <_charlie> bbl guys
[14:31] <SpeedEvil> http://www.collectspace.com/review/spacex_demo401.jpg - hah - better
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[14:31] <fsphil> quite similar :p
[14:38] <dbrooke> it's the setting amongst the trees that does it
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> Also small remote island location.
[14:39] <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omelek_Island
[14:39] <fsphil> so musk is secretly building International Rescue
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[14:45] <garymortimer> God speed Lardy Pico
[14:45] <Ian_> So, with the family firmly in mine, I take it that you won't be planning any Hydrogen launches in the near future . . . :) That might rattle the neighbours!
[14:46] <Ian_> *mind
[14:46] <garymortimer> Nice view of Manston for Lardy
[14:47] <Babs_> i want to makw my own balloon ad make my own hydrogen one day
[14:48] <Babs_> first principles habbing
[14:48] <Babs_> the bearing and pitch change should really start shifting as it approaches calais
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[14:52] <Mark_B> Afternoon
[14:53] <SP3OSJ> Hi What you need to do to balloon was seen on the map?
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[14:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> SP3OSJ register Payload and Flight Documents here http://habitat.habhub.org/
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[14:55] <SP3OSJ> No it does not work. Doc ID:d6e2e28409756506b894cc8057b0b288
[14:55] <Mark_B> Info only - I'm aiming to launch from Elsworth at 1800hrs today
[14:56] <Geoff-G8DHE> Then when the Flight document is ready ask for it to be authorised in #habhub by an Admin
[14:56] <SP3OSJ> He wrote to me that an administrator approves the balloon as seen on the map.
[14:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> you just post the Id number and ask for authorising, and so long as its been tested then it will be authorised.
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[14:57] <SP3OSJ> I do not know what to do
[14:57] <Reb-SM3ULC> !hysplit add SP5NVX
[14:57] <SpacenearUS> 03Reb-SM3ULC: You need to be an admin to do that.
[14:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> Have you created a Payload document ?
[14:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> what is the payl;oad name ?
[14:58] <dbrooke> SP3OSJ: logtail has Exception in UKHAS main parse: ValueError: Incorrect number of fields (got 11, expect 10)
[14:58] <dbrooke> so the payload doc doesn't match what is being sent
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[15:02] <SP3OSJ> There is no point discharge into the balloon as it is not on the map You need to resign from the start. harm
[15:02] <SP3OSJ> Today is a good prediction in SP
[15:04] <SP3OSJ> I do not know what's going on but it's getting worse with the approval of flights
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[15:06] <SP3OSJ> Doc ID:d6e2e28409756506b894cc8057b0b288
[15:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> SP3OSJ what callsign is being used ?
[15:09] <SP3OSJ> SP3OSJ
[15:10] <SP3OSJ> Now I turned off because I do not want to transmit on the soil only in flight
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[15:14] <mfa298> SP3OSJ: if you've got a valid payload it will appear on the map, the flight doc (which is the bit needing approving) makes the settings available easily on dl-fldigi and puts an entry in the calendar
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[15:16] <SP3OSJ> I'm already two hours waiting for a response of approval and no one answers.
[15:17] <dbrooke> the payload doc is incorrect, that needs fixing before the flight doc will be approved
[15:17] <mfa298> I suspect all the admins are out doing something else, theres only a few of them
[15:26] <Ian_> Thomaz/Artur, I believe that it is expected for DL-FLDIGI to submit a valid packet to Habitat before SpaceNearUS is able to match Payload Doc to telemetry.and flag as OK. It seems that a packet from a year ago is a bit suspect.
[15:27] <Ian_> Just over an hour actually!
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[15:37] <Babs____> Not to tempt fate but this looks fairly stable
[15:37] <Babs____> Is the transmission fairly clean save for the lack of $$$?
[15:38] <Geoff-G8DHE> Solid signal here no problems
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[15:39] <dbrooke> I've not had to retune, any drift has been within capture
[15:39] <SP3OSJ> yes: my frame: $$SP3OSJ,16,151959,53.18524,16.75283,72,25,6,0.06,3.08,0.99,3*4CAE
[15:39] <SP3OSJ> green
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[15:40] <Babs____> Cool thanks - it has styrene around it but is starting to get cooler
[15:41] <dbrooke> it's slowly drifted over time but not enough to be a problem
[15:42] <dbrooke> SP3OSJ: that has 11 fields, your payload document is specifying 10 fields, so it doesn't match
[15:42] <SP3OSJ> http://s4.postimg.org/iri1yl7y5/rtty.jpg
[15:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> <<2015-05-30T13:41Z RTTY @ 434648759+0999>> and now <<2015-05-30T15:42Z RTTY @ 434648657+1011>>
[15:43] <G8FJG_Ron> Babs ...ok here . not had to retune for whole flight ,,,..still see two spurious +- 16khz of main.....and when it was close two more +- 32khz....function of transmitter? I've seen it before on other flights
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[15:43] <mfa298> SP3OSJ: if it's not appearing on the map then either it's not being uploaded by dl-fldigi or the settings are wrong (bad payload doc)
[15:44] <G8FJG_Ron> afk
[15:45] <SP3OSJ> How not fit as it is green and has entered data into white fields?
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[15:49] <Babs____> Yes, function of transmitter I think
[15:49] <Babs____> Or poor circuit design
[15:49] <Babs____> But I will blame it on the transmitter
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[15:52] <G8FJG_Ron> back for 2 mins...its a shame because it wastes power from main signal ..perhaps?.... but still ok , I'm using wrong polarity to rx the sig ,,,,still 35db over noise
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[15:53] <Babs____> Many thanks to everyone tracking today - looks like my first European mainland flight
[15:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> ur welcome Babs____
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[15:59] <jet__> !dial LARDY-PICO
[15:59] <SpacenearUS> 03jet__: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[16:00] <christopherlee> Could it be the wrong payload attached to the flight or your testing against the wrong payload. I see a lot of SP3OSJ payloads listed?
[16:01] <jet__> !dial mm5
[16:01] <SpacenearUS> 03jet__: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 031 MHz
[16:01] <christopherlee> But that may be my misunderstanding as payload ref does not = call sign
[16:01] <jet__> How do you find the frequency for flights without a doc?
[16:02] <jet__> LARDY-PICO's just over the channel and I want to try and tune in, but it won't dial
[16:02] <G8FJG_Ron> 434.648.600
[16:03] <G8FJG_Ron> 50/280 7n2
[16:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> MM5 hasn't been seen yet launch around 18:00 it seems
[16:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> and LARDY-PICO hasn't got a valid Flight doc at the moment either!
[16:05] <jet__> I've got a constant, solid beep at 434.617
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[16:09] <jet__> This is rather funny, every time I start up sdr#, I spend about 10 minutes waiting while the dongle drifts due to it heating up
[16:11] <Herman-PB0AHX> can somebody repair the pi from lardy-pico on the stats page ????
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[16:12] <jet__> Is it possible to detect lardy-pico with an sdr atm?
[16:13] <G8FJG_Ron> suspect I'll lose Lardy soon ...off to cook Saturday curry for 7
[16:17] <jet__> wait so mm5 will launch outside its launch window?
[16:17] <jet__> is it really advisable to launch at 6pm???
[16:18] <dbrooke> Herman-PB0AHX: that's from last week, there's no approved flight doc for today
[16:18] <jet__> oh
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[16:25] <fox123> hallo all, please how frequency and mode F5KAV-11
[16:26] <SA6BSS> its a aprs balloon 144.8
[16:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its via APRS
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[16:27] <fox123> TNX 73
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[16:31] <Babs_> battery voltage looks odd. never seen it above 3.3v
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[16:40] <christop_> Any one got any clues if its just the one payload etc that Steve is sending up?
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[16:44] <jet__> So MM5 comes online 6pm?
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[16:46] <christop_> Think SP3OSJ is the flight but not sure
[16:49] <jet__> Oh, I heard that it was mm5 taking off at 6pm in uk?
[16:49] <christop_> flight doc shows that as this morning.. No live feed showing yet.
[16:50] <dbrooke> all we know re MM5 is: 15:55 < Mark_B> Info only - I'm aiming to launch from Elsworth at 1800hrs today
[16:50] <christop_> Cheers
[16:51] <dbrooke> presumably local time, so in 10 minutes
[16:52] <dbrooke> not sure what the intended flight profile is but prediction with defaults looks a bit near the coast
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[16:53] <dbrooke> http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=d938fc86890cf997477173a1909ea3ae7ecabe68
[16:55] <christop_> MM5 showing on map
[16:56] <G8FJG_Ron> only reds from Lardy now
[16:57] <Babs_> where are you Ron?
[16:58] <G8FJG_Ron> RM13
[16:58] <G8FJG_Ron> Rainham
[16:58] <jet__> Going to try tracking MM5 when it gets to a good altitude.
[16:59] <jet__> Should I be able to pick it up from the reading side of the m25?
[16:59] <G8FJG_Ron> 2mts asl on the north thames mud flats
[16:59] <jet__> !dial mm5
[16:59] <SpacenearUS> 03jet__: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 031 MHz
[17:00] <Babs_> cool thanks
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[17:05] <G8FJG_Ron> jet ..depends on antenna and rx gear?
[17:05] <christop_> !dial mm5
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 031 MHz, 434.65152 MHz, 434.6521 MHz
[17:05] <jet__> omni nagoya antenna +sdr
[17:06] <jet__> I'm going to put the antenna on the car to improve reception once mm5 launches
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[17:07] <G8FJG_Ron> jet ...perdiction shows going eastward away from you....you might see trace on screen,,, decodes in green?
[17:09] <dbrooke> MM5 is up
[17:09] <G8FJG_Ron> prediction..
[17:11] <dbrooke> towards Ipswich
[17:11] <jet__> rising fast..
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[17:12] <christop_> bit shocked i could pick it up so low
[17:17] <christop_> !dial mm5
[17:17] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03534.656 MHz, 434.6513 MHz, 434.65148 MHz, 434.65152 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 434.6521 MHz, 434.656 MHz
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[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> evenin
[17:17] <Lunar_Lander> +g
[17:18] <Geoff-G8DHE> !dial mm5
[17:18] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03434.652 MHz, 434.65148 MHz, 434.6521 MHz, 434.6513 MHz, 434.65152 MHz
[17:19] <Babs_> thinking ahead (and optimistically), is there anyone east of Brussels on who can pick up LARDY-PICO? Reckon it will be out of rangeof the 4 people who have it in a couple of hours - the battery should last until at least tomorrow morning
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[17:22] <PA3WEG> !dial MM5
[17:22] <SpacenearUS> 03PA3WEG: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03434.65152 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 434.65148 MHz, 434.6513 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.6521 MHz
[17:23] <garymortimer> I'm just in from the pub and seen that Lardy has made it across the water, having seen the launch window I am super impressed. A modern day message in a bottle. Well done Babs.
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[17:24] <Babs_> thanks garymortimer. It's on a mission to brussels
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[17:34] <dbrooke> Babs_: might be worth sending details to the mailing list
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[17:35] <SA6BSS> lardy
[17:35] <SA6BSS> !dial LARDY-PICO
[17:35] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[17:39] <christop_> Prediction for MM5 not looking to good
[17:40] <christop_> !dial mm5
[17:40] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03434.651 MHz, 434.6521 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.65148 MHz, 434.6513 MHz
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[17:48] <ardyguy> nail biting stuff for mm5
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[17:50] <jet__> So thrilled, I'm picking up mm5 faintly with my dongle
[17:51] <ardyguy> nice one
[17:51] <ardyguy> where abouts are you based jet?
[17:52] <jet__> few miles off the west side of the m25
[17:52] <jet__> When I start getting greens, my receiver will appear as HERMES_OP
[17:53] <ardyguy> cool will watch out
[17:56] <jet__> is mm5 expected to reach 30,000m?
[17:56] <jet__> it's frustrating seeing an almost perfect string go red because of one or two bad characters
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[17:58] <ardyguy> yeah, especially when you know it is just an obvious comma
[17:58] <ardyguy> aiming for 30k smack on
[17:59] <jet__> sdr# line slowly increasing in brightness, at max 46 gain
[18:00] <Babs_> good tip dbrooke
[18:01] <prog> el cheapo dongle!
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[18:04] <PE0SAT> GE, Strong signals from MM5 - but missing a lot of decodes because of the audio drift
[18:04] <_ardyguy> yep
[18:04] <jet__> I think I have the same. I can hear the signal myself strongly but dl-fldgi is producing reds
[18:04] <jet__> If only I could decode it manually.
[18:04] <christop_> !dial mm5
[18:04] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03434.651 MHz, 434.65152 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.65148 MHz, 434.6513 MHz, 434.6521 MHz
[18:06] <PE0SAT> jet__: Can you explain?
[18:08] <jet__> I have the laptop and aerial on the car, which greatly amplified the signal
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[18:09] <jet__> I have sdr# on max gain, but the waterfall line is v. thin
[18:09] <_ardyguy> you should be able to zoom in on the frequencies
[18:09] <pa3weg-portable> Hi all from a pub in Martlesham
[18:10] <_ardyguy> hi :)
[18:10] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[18:11] <garymortimer> in dlfldgi? if so match the lines by adjusting---- OPmode -RTTY- custom and then change custom shift until bars match
[18:12] <pa3weg-portable> Decoding on a portable setup during FUNcube engineering weekend. My tower should show up in the UK. So not using websdr or anything
[18:12] <garymortimer> thats compensating for temp changes as the balloon rises if you will (grown ups chip in with better answer)
[18:16] <christop_> sat in garden with laptop, getting a bit cold mind
[18:16] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS: Govkäll, i regnet
[18:16] <SA6BSS> tjena
[18:17] <PE0SAT> pa3weg-portable: Hi, yesy you are and near the Chase car ;-)
[18:17] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS: först få hysplit adderat till SP5-ballongen
[18:17] <SA6BSS> redan kört på den, går upp över finland, du kanske om du tar dig till högt ställer kan ta mot den
[18:18] <pa3weg-portable> Only the chasecar is not going for dinner :-)
[18:18] <PE0SAT> pa3weg-portable: Fish and Chips ....
[18:19] <garymortimer> Ha thats what the wife and I just had in the pub
[18:20] <Reb-SM3ULC> SA6BSS: ah, jag å min toppenvy åt öster...
[18:21] <garymortimer> This pub http://www.nottieshotel.co.za/
[18:22] <gonzo___> I am hearing little tweaks in the rtty from mm5, anyone else hearing them?
[18:23] <garymortimer> Its seen the sea and is nervous
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[18:25] <christop_> !dial mm5
[18:25] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03434.6524 MHz, 434.6521 MHz, 434.6518 MHz, 434.6513 MHz, 434.65152 MHz, 434.65198 MHz, 434.651 MHz, 434.652 MHz
[18:25] <gonzo___> seems to be glitching every second
[18:25] <dbrooke> gonzo___: yes, a bit like a one second tick
[18:26] <gonzo___> ok, wondered if it was just local qrm
[18:26] <dbrooke> well, we agree on that then 8-)
[18:26] <gonzo___> causing decode errors, and its a strong sig with me
[18:26] <dbrooke> I did at first but it was such a strong signal here it had to be the payload
[18:27] <gonzo___> it is exactly 1sec. That will give them a clue where to look at least
[18:27] <dbrooke> we agree there too, I found widening the filter bandwidth in dl-fldigi helped a bit
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[18:33] <Babs_> PD3T - whoever you are, you have LARDY-PICO's life in your hands
[18:33] <Babs_> no pressure
[18:33] <Babs_> well, hopefully some pressure otherwise its coming down
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[18:49] <Herman-PB0AHX> go terry go
[18:55] <pa3weg-portable> Question, anyone attempting recovery if there is a sea landing?
[18:55] <jet__> Yes! First green string for mm5
[18:56] <christop_> Just as i lose it :-)
[18:58] <jet__> Consistent green strings now
[18:59] <ardyguy> nice one :)
[18:59] <jet__> hermes_op is now live on the map :D
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[19:00] <ardyguy> seen :D
[19:00] <ardyguy> listen out for the pop
[19:00] <ardyguy> you will hear it change frequency (doppler)
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[19:02] <jet__> it's amazing how much difference putting the antenna on the car makes.
[19:02] <jet__> I lift it off and all the signals disappear
[19:02] <DutchMillbt> PD3T what's Lardy's freq?
[19:03] <ardyguy> yep
[19:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wow that's a very strong signal from MM5!
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[19:05] <jet__> same ntx22 transmitter?
[19:05] <jet__> homemade aerial?
[19:05] <ardyguy> yep
[19:06] <jet__> guys in calais picking up mm5...
[19:09] <jet__> Seem to have lost mm5 for a bit, too high perhaps?
[19:10] <ardyguy> nope
[19:10] <ardyguy> high is always good
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[19:10] <Babs____> DutchMillbt: 434.075
[19:10] <DutchMillbt> thankz
[19:10] <Geoff-G8DHE> Its exceedling strong on the South Coast, just had to put the Audio AGC on it was ovrlaoding fldigi
[19:11] <Babs____> If you can get it it would be helpful - down to last 2. Trackers
[19:11] <Babs____> Battery should be ok overnight
[19:11] <ardyguy> pop?
[19:12] <jet__> just popped, on the way down
[19:13] <DutchMillbt> Babs___> no signal here
[19:13] <jet__> does habhub.org record all the telemetry stats?
[19:13] <jet__> so if I wanted to save and view them at a later date, such as a kml file?
[19:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> all that have payload id created
[19:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes
[19:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://habitat.habhub.org/ept/
[19:14] <Geoff-G8DHE> or track it whilst it flys in GE http://spacenear.us/tracker/datanew.php?format=kml&vehicles=LARDY-PICO;MM5
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[19:19] <dbrooke> DutchMillbt: lardy should be around 434.648
[19:20] <jet__> is it normal for dl-fldgi waterfall to be freezing quite a bit?
[19:20] <jet__> signal is getting weaker if anything.
[19:20] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nope the w/f should just keep rolling ?
[19:20] <jet__> wondering if this underpowered laptop needs overclocking.
[19:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> unless your heavily loading the machine
[19:21] <jet__> just sdrsharp and dl-fldgi open :(
[19:21] <Geoff-G8DHE> ah yes these programs do take a lot of processor effort!
[19:27] <jet__> drifting a lot now, temp change
[19:29] <christop_> !dial mm5
[19:29] <SpacenearUS> 03christop_: Latest dials for 03MM5 10(b415): 03434.651703 MHz, 434.651505 MHz, 434.651399 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.65148 MHz, 434.6507 MHz, 434.65152 MHz, 434.651664 MHz, 434.651724 MHz, 434.651705 MHz, 434.651745 MHz, 434.6513 MHz
[19:31] <jet__> just lost mm5.
[19:31] <jet__> sure enough the greenring predictor is spot on
[19:37] <Geoff-G8DHE> If you try SDR-Radio then you can set up dl-fldigi to track the frequency and tune it for you ;-)
[19:38] <Reb-SM3ULC> jet__: speed of waterfall and resolution affects cpu load quite a lot
[19:39] <Reb-SM3ULC> One gotta love numbers: "Last Contact: 0.00157166666455 hours ago"
[19:39] <Reb-SM3ULC> :)
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[19:40] <jet__> someones testing ecc1
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[19:45] <Reb-SM3ULC> is the live-prediction not ok? since it seems locked
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[19:52] <dbrooke> appropriately it's landed near "The Chase Farm"
[19:52] <pa3weg-portable> Right, no need for a sea recovery
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[19:53] <pa3weg-portable> Calling off the rib
[19:53] <pa3weg-portable> ;-)
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[19:56] <dbrooke> burst was higher than the predictor default and the upper wind was inland
[19:59] <mattbrejza> !flights
[19:59] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Current flights: 03437.675 RTTY300bd450/7n2 10(f2c1), 03MM5 10(b415), 03SP3OSJ 144.7MHz 100bd/450/7n2 10(c048)
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[20:16] <gonzo___> some 11kv lines there though
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[20:22] <gonzo___> the OS maps say that the land there is 35mtrs asl
[20:22] <gonzo___> so they may have missed the power lines
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[21:15] <_charlie> hi :)
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[21:17] <_charlie> how can i read the irc from earlier today?
[21:17] <_charlie> i forget the robots names
[21:18] <SA6BSS> $$\ARDY-PICO,432-21:11:11,50.3711,8.614;,4918.228,67.266,20,28!$0,7,100,3.444*390
[21:18] <SA6BSS> http://habhub.org/zeusbot/
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[21:21] Nick change: Crashbone -> Crashbone|Away
[21:22] Nick change: Crashbone|Away -> Crashbone
[21:22] <_charlie> thanks
[21:22] <Babs____> SA6BSS: did you get a partial decode from lardy pico? Where are you?
[21:24] <SA6BSS> I´m hearing it on Nuremberg web sdr
[21:24] <SA6BSS> right in the qrm , har to get a full decode
[21:24] <Babs____> I have no clue what that is
[21:24] <Babs____> Hardware I am fine, anything radio I have no clue
[21:24] <SA6BSS> http://141.75.245.244:8901/
[21:25] <SA6BSS> :)
[21:26] <Babs____> The trace from lardy pico looks to have disappeared from the map - it's with you to get a decode and get it back on....
[21:27] <SA6BSS> found another web sdr in germany, let se if this one is better.
[21:27] <_charlie> nice flights babs
[21:27] <_charlie> 36" balloon?
[21:28] <Babs____> Yes, 36 inch foil
[21:28] <Babs____> I'm really pleased with it :-)
[21:28] <_charlie> I spent yesterday removing the foil from a couple to fly when i go back to uni
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[21:28] <_charlie> you should be its awesome
[21:28] <Babs____> Everyone else has seen it but this is my launch window https://flic.kr/p/txuTbh
[21:28] <astrobiologist> evening all
[21:28] <astrobiologist> is there a tropo event on or something?
[21:28] <Babs____> It's such a cheaper and less hassle way of launching
[21:29] <_charlie> LOL
[21:29] <_charlie> hi astro
[21:29] <astrobiologist> I am showing s9 on uhf tonight
[21:29] <_charlie> that is cool astro
[21:30] <_charlie> whats solarham saying?
[21:30] <astrobiologist> suppose so _charlie but I was hoping to open some repeaters!
[21:30] <astrobiologist> ....um don't leave your pigs out in the sun?
[21:30] <_charlie> lol :P
[21:30] <astrobiologist> seriously tho' I hadn't heard of solarham before
[21:31] <_charlie> you on it now?
[21:31] <_charlie> its awesome
[21:34] <astrobiologist> it's a very busy screen, where would I look for tropo event info please?
[21:35] <Babs____> astrobiologist: - where are you located?
[21:35] <SA6BSS> last paecial, allmost complete $$LARDY-PICO,452,21:34:17,50.3547,8.9733,4961.241,64.537,1,20,12.800,3.4
[21:35] <astrobiologist> Babs____ I am in central London
[21:35] <Babs____> Whereabouts ? (You won't see lardy pico )
[21:36] <Babs____> Thanks SA6BSS
[21:36] <SA6BSS> its strong on the web reciever but I got a lot of drop outs
[21:36] <astrobiologist> I can digipeat aprs through the ucl digipeater, which is impressive given there is no line of sight... so maybe my problem is qrm on 70cm from ism devices etc?
[21:36] <Babs____> Still great altitude. It will be there through the night
[21:37] <Babs____> Is there any way I can get access to the web receiver ? Would be interesting to see the partial decodes
[21:37] <astrobiologist> it was more a general enquiry, don't often get balloons in my line of sight here. wondered why uhf was so buggered tonight though
[21:38] <Babs____> I launched from Stoke Newington today
[21:38] <fsphil> qrm would be easy to spot
[21:39] <_charlie> sorry astro not used it since years, will try and find it for you
[21:40] <astrobiologist> fsphil please could you elaborate? basically I am seeing s9 of static on the handheld's lcd display but I haven't connected it to anything to look at the waterfall
[21:41] <astrobiologist> thanks _charlie
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[21:42] <fsphil> qrm on 70cm tends to be blips and beeps
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[21:43] <astrobiologist> fsphil it is just massive static. I have seen this a few times before
[21:43] <fsphil> it could be something out of band overloading the radio
[21:44] <astrobiologist> so it could be qrm then? I have seen this before in london, I was assuming it was just a very polluted em environment
[21:44] <Babs____> Where are you astrobiologist ?
[21:45] <fsphil> it's possible yea, especially in a city
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[21:46] <astrobiologist> Babs____ I am more or less right in the middle, in clapham junction
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[21:46] <Babs____> Nice. I have a flat in Fulham.
[21:46] <LazyLeopard> Once had terrible static on 70cms, then realised it was happening in time with something mechanical working up the road. Turned out to be a truck delivering bricks to a building site. Its hoist had some un-suppressed RF generator driving it...
[21:47] <astrobiologist> Babs____ listen out for my aprs on 144.8 then, you might well pick me up, mb7ucl is :-)
[21:50] <astrobiologist> LazyLeopard thanks, there are two building sites nearby... and a lift in my building... and water pump in the basement.... could be anything. but at least aprs is working! (can sometimes open ISS during passes as well :-)
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[22:05] <Babs____> Does anyone know how to pick up whether Nuremberg is picking up lardy pico ? Even Partially ?
[22:08] <SA6BSS> got it
[22:08] <SA6BSS> map uppdated :;)
[22:09] <Babs____> Hallelujah !
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[22:09] <Babs____> I would have given it a larger kiss when I let it go if I had known how plucky it would have been
[22:10] <Babs____> Thanks SA6BSS - if you come to the conf in August the beers are on me
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[22:11] <SA6BSS> my pleasure :)
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[22:16] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyMOYHiatos on fuel efficiency in aircraft
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[22:17] <Babs____> SA6BSS: where are you located?
[22:18] <SA6BSS> south sweden, Im the only tower on the in swe at the moment
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[22:29] <Babs____> Thanks for tracking - the little guy is still going
[22:30] <SA6BSS> I´m going to bea, I let the gear run , hopefullt it will get a few more decodes
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[22:34] <Babs____> Cool -tha
[22:35] <Babs____> Thanks SA6BSS - let's see how we get on
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