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[01:27] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KK6MIR-11 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6MIR-11
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[03:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N8vrn_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N8vrn_chase
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[04:59] <johnsx> hola
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[05:28] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ras_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ras_chase
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[09:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_SKY_PLUS after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI_SKY_PLUS
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[09:29] <amell> Is there a launch at the moment?
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[09:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BERKOHAB - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BERKOHAB
[09:40] <fsphil> don't believe so
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[10:08] <michemto> Morning!
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[10:21] <michemto> Anyone has good tutorial for sperachute anti-tangling circle?
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[10:28] <edmoore> no
[10:28] <edmoore> just make one
[10:28] <edmoore> you don't need a tutorial
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[10:31] <Laurenceb_> heh
[10:33] <edmoore> my advice still goes down well
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[10:37] <edmoore> y'all might enjoy this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05v38yp
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[10:41] <fsphil> they still have different programs on LW
[10:41] <fsphil> never understood that
[10:45] <edmoore> it's for funny colonials
[10:45] <edmoore> they're all a bit weird and backwards and religious
[10:47] <gonzo_> the B side of radio 4
[10:49] <Laurenceb_> arggg
[10:49] <Laurenceb_> freecad is still buggy :(
[10:49] <Laurenceb_> its randomly jumping between maximised and minimised
[10:49] <Laurenceb_> i cant hit any of the gui with my mouse :S
[10:52] <Laurenceb_> theres always some stupid bug that makes open source projects practically unusable at the last moment :(
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[12:59] <mfa298> Laurenceb__: so true
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[13:14] <Raspi-Space> hi
[13:15] <Dread> hi
[13:17] <Raspi-Space> working on deciphering the transmission from the NTX2 and I see that dl-fldigi loses one or two letters
[13:17] <Raspi-Space> for eg
[13:18] <Raspi-Space> if I send "This is a test"
[13:18] <adamgreig> how are you decoding?
[13:18] <Raspi-Space> I get "This is a "
[13:18] <Raspi-Space> or sometimes the whole thing...
[13:18] <Raspi-Space> has this happened to anyone?
[13:18] <Raspi-Space> Can't figure out what I am doing wrong...
[13:18] <adamgreig> all sorts of reasons this might happen, some of which will be difficult to spot over IRC
[13:18] <adamgreig> what are you using to decode it?
[13:18] <adamgreig> if you transmit "This is a test " does it all work?
[13:19] <Raspi-Space> I am using the dl-fldigi software on Linux
[13:19] <adamgreig> what's your whole setup, in general?
[13:19] <Raspi-Space> sure
[13:19] <Raspi-Space> I am using Raspberry pi + PL2303 to connect to the NTX2
[13:20] <Raspi-Space> then I use a DVB-T antenna connected to Linux+gqrx+dl-fldigi to decode
[13:20] <adamgreig> the pl2303 seems an unusual choice givne the rpi has onboard serial
[13:20] <Raspi-Space> yeah
[13:20] <adamgreig> what is attached to the antenna? an rtl-sdr sort of receiver?
[13:20] <adamgreig> what baud rate?
[13:20] <Raspi-Space> yes connected rtl-sdr
[13:22] <Raspi-Space> baud rate 150
[13:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> First suspcion for me would be the setup of the Rx side, frequency, filters, AGC, AFC,SQL etc.
[13:23] <adamgreig> it's possible the pl2303 is unhappy at the baud rate, do you have an oscilloscope you could use to see what's being sent to the ntx2? can you hear if the transmission stops suddenly or does fldigi just not seem to decode it properly?
[13:23] <adamgreig> yea worth checking that sql is off
[13:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> are you swamping the Rx with too much signal and so on.
[13:23] <Raspi-Space> interesting
[13:23] <Raspi-Space> I do not have an oscilloscope
[13:24] <Raspi-Space> how to check if sql is off?
[13:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Can you feed the serial result to another port or computer ?
[13:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Squelch is a setting in dl-fldigi
[13:24] <Raspi-Space> instead of the NTX2?
[13:24] <Raspi-Space> I mean feed the PL2303 output to something other than the NTX2?
[13:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes
[13:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> that will rule in/out the Tx side of things
[13:26] <Raspi-Space> basically I take the signal being fed to the NTX2 and feed it somewhere else
[13:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> yes another computer with a serial port
[13:26] <Raspi-Space> I can do that
[13:27] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> debugging is all about breaking it down till you can rule out certain parts, even leave it connected to the NTX2 provided you have sufficent drive
[13:27] <Raspi-Space> I am not very familiar with electronics :)
[13:27] <Raspi-Space> this is my first time working with radio
[13:28] <Raspi-Space> got it
[13:28] <Raspi-Space> it makes sense
[13:28] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> well start with feeding the serial port alone from the Pi to somewhere else to make scertain what you send is what you think it is!
[13:28] <Raspi-Space> so I send the signal to another computer and see if the Raspi is sending the right data
[13:28] <Raspi-Space> and then work on decoding it
[13:28] <Raspi-Space> thanks
[13:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> its a quick first check at leats
[13:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> least
[13:30] <Raspi-Space> makes sense
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[13:39] <michal_f> it seems windows version dl-lfdigi is not compiled with xmlrpc support enabled ?
[13:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Cobfig |Misc|Text i/o Talker Socket ?
[13:46] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> not tried it
[13:47] <x-f> it is, it works, i'm using xmlrpc
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[13:51] <michal_f> dl-fldigi.exe --xmlrpc-list returns nothing. maybe I have wrong version ?
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[13:53] <michal_f> x-f: do you have any example code for talking to dl-lfdigi with xmlrpc? c/python ?
[13:54] <x-f> i used php
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[13:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD0ZTV-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0ZTV-1
[13:56] <x-f> i'm at work now and can't access that code, but there wasn't anything special
[13:56] <michal_f> ok, I'll try to do smth during weekend
[13:58] <michal_f> I found on IRC logs that there's an option to connect over tcp
[13:58] <michal_f> and just read whatever dl-lfdigi receives
[13:58] <michal_f> are there any tips on this ?
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[14:03] Nick change: bairdynomnom_ -> baird
[14:05] <x-f> that's how i'm using it, it's easy
[14:09] <michal_f> would it block working with habitat? Or can I coexist with my program ?
[14:12] <michal_f> I have to leave now... thanks x-f
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[14:57] <tweetBot> @bristolseds: Our Superpressure Balloon over Bristol yesterday #ukhas (Image credit @G8DHE) http://t.co/QqgP2Lm6xW
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[15:05] <Charlie_> hi
[15:05] <eroomde> greetings Charlie_
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[15:13] <tweetBot> @bristolseds: Our pico tracker weighing in before launch (sans battery!) #ukhas http://t.co/7bDm6KbfDs
[15:14] <eroomde> richardeoin, please get a better camera!
[15:14] <richardeoin> apologies for the hashtag spam, just adding some tweets to the new account
[15:15] <richardeoin> ah yes I should edmoore
[15:15] <richardeoin> any suggestions?
[15:15] <eroomde> nope
[15:15] <eroomde> just it's nice to be able to see PCBs properly
[15:15] <eroomde> read the ic values and so on
[15:16] <adamgreig> how much is it with battery?
[15:16] <eroomde> that looks a bit like you've smeared purple vaseline on the lens before taking the photo
[15:16] <Laurenceb__> obviously iphone
[15:18] <Laurenceb__> grrr i hate authoring papers
[15:18] <richardeoin> it's a htc m7, but seems to like activating the low light mode a little to much
[15:18] <Laurenceb__> just got an email with about 20 names of "co authors"
[15:18] <Laurenceb__> i dont know who any of these people are...
[15:18] <richardeoin> the energiser aaa is 7.5g iirc, so about 12g adamgreig
[15:18] <adamgreig> nice
[15:19] <adamgreig> Laurenceb__: lol, just be sure to put your name first
[15:19] <richardeoin> there's a better photo here eroomde http://www.bristol-seds.co.uk/pico-tracker/
[15:19] <richardeoin> (page under construction)
[15:20] <Laurenceb__> nice
[15:20] <mattbrejza> is that the same tracker that ended up in france?
[15:20] <mattbrejza> (design of)
[15:21] <richardeoin> it's the next revision after the one that went to france mattbrejza
[15:21] <craag> His one at emf had a different (antenova?) gps with an integral antenna iirc.
[15:21] <mattbrejza> oh rgiht
[15:21] <richardeoin> yeah we dropped the antenova thing for ublox
[15:21] <Laurenceb__> have you tried uplink?
[15:22] <adamgreig> Charlie_: ^'s a nice example of the state of the art you should be aiming for in your project :p
[15:22] <Laurenceb__> this should work https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32_Launcher/tree/master/Silabs
[15:22] <Laurenceb__> c&p the config :D
[15:22] <adamgreig> it's a 4060 Laurenceb__
[15:22] <Laurenceb__> doh
[15:23] <Laurenceb__> i need to learn to read
[15:23] <richardeoin> actually the revision in that photo is the rocketry version - the slots at the top are for i2c accelerometers / gyros etc
[15:24] <richardeoin> I think it was the only one I had when I borrowed the camera
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[15:26] <richardeoin> we've not tried uplink at all Laurenceb__
[15:26] <Laurenceb__> i got to -134dBm sensitivity
[15:27] <Laurenceb__> with 446x
[15:27] <richardeoin> the boards could rx is you swapped for si446x and added the passives, but we've never tried
[15:27] <richardeoin> want to get consistent float first
[15:28] <Laurenceb__> yeah
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[15:32] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[15:39] <tweetBot> @bristolseds: We just love solder paste #ukhas http://t.co/jJ8acGBArb http://t.co/h3vxSDi4Ui
[15:40] <richardeoin> here's another nice photo for y'all
[15:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DF0AIS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DF0AIS
[15:41] <Upu> whats the antenna on the gps ?
[15:41] <Upu> and antenova module :)
[15:42] <Upu> the board at the and isn't the board at the start
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[15:42] <richardeoin> haha right you are upu
[15:43] <Upu> whats the antenna on the bottom one
[15:43] <richardeoin> with the ublox we just use 48mm of guitar wire
[15:43] <Upu> oh ok
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[15:50] <richardeoin> a perfect linearly polarised antenna will be 3dB worse than rhcp, but since we get a lock anyhow
[15:50] <richardeoin> I say keep it simple :-)
[15:54] <prog> the red hot chilli peppers have a lot of gain
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[16:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0DZX - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0DZX
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[16:35] <SpeedEvil> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-british-army-sergeant-arrested-after-wifes-parachute-fails/
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[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03lungu_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=lungu_chase
[18:11] <Charlie_> How can I view earlier irc messages?
[18:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> See the log files here
[18:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> http://habhub.org/zeusbot/
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[18:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KD2IMA after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2IMA
[18:38] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[18:57] <Charlie_> lol did it really land and take off again?
[18:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD2IMA_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD2IMA_chase
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[19:03] <fsphil> I've had that happen. it's no fun
[19:04] <fsphil> one of leos early floaters landed on an uninhabited island for a few hours before taking off again. that was fun
[19:05] <lz1dev> "eh, looks like nobody is about; oh well off i go"
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[19:10] <Charlie_> really? lol which flight was that?
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[19:32] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/B-17/index.html thought there was another as well that landed twice over Finaland but can't locate it.
[19:37] <dbrooke> There was also one which spent the night next to the A14 in Northamptonshire and then took off again at about the time he launched its "replacement" on the same frequency.
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[19:45] <Charlie_> nice one
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[20:06] <Charlie_> I reckon Ill just copy the UoBristol board - looks good
[20:06] <Charlie_> At least for first couple of launches
[20:08] <Charlie_> never used arm before
[20:09] <Devilholk> win 18
[20:10] <Charlie_> ?
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[20:10] <x-f> if MS released Windows half as often as Firefox
[20:11] <Charlie_> oh right, yeah
[20:11] <Devilholk> Sorry, /win 18 in irssi means goto window 18
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[20:16] <Charlie_> oh right :P
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[20:18] <Charlie_> Anyone suggest a good ARM programmer?
[20:19] <mattbrejza> black magic probe seems popular
[20:19] <mattbrejza> on stm32 dev boards the top half of the board is a programmer though so you can just use that
[20:20] <Laurenceb_> I have yet to get a black magic probe to work
[20:20] <Laurenceb_> it connects... and then everything goes all overengineered
[20:20] <mattbrejza> popular with some...
[20:20] <Laurenceb_> i find texane a lot easier
[20:20] <Laurenceb_> its slightly buggy, but easiest to use
[20:21] <Charlie_> Couldnt find a retailer for black magic... I am blind lol
[20:22] <Charlie_> will look for a texane
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[20:24] <Laurenceb_> its not a thing
[20:25] <Laurenceb_> its software for driving a discovery board
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[20:27] <richardeoin> I'm a black magic probe fanboy, but have barely used anything else
[20:28] <Laurenceb_> interesting
[20:28] <richardeoin> oh I used the programmy bit of lpcxpresso board to start with http://www.lpcware.com/lpcxpresso
[20:28] <Charlie_> so
[20:28] <Charlie_> ah ok
[20:28] <Laurenceb_> I didnt get as far as getting to to connect to gdb lol
[20:28] <Laurenceb_> gave up as too overcomplex
[20:29] <Laurenceb_> theres also this http://www.st.com/web/catalog/tools/FM146/CL1984/SC724/SS1677/PF251168?sc=internet/evalboard/product/251168.jsp
[20:29] <Laurenceb_> which runs with texane too
[20:29] <Laurenceb_> https://github.com/texane/stlink
[20:30] <Charlie_> ah okay
[20:31] <Charlie_> yeah I dont like building my own programmer as people are never too sure
[20:31] <Charlie_> Pretty sure microchip wont even listen to your questions if youre not using a pickit etc
[20:32] <richardeoin> nobody will listen to your questions unless you pay $$$$ for IAR or something :-)
[20:32] <Laurenceb_> not true
[20:32] <Laurenceb_> ST officially support GCC
[20:33] <Laurenceb_> as long as you use https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded
[20:33] <richardeoin> oh okay, fair enough
[20:34] <richardeoin> that's just my experience I guess
[20:34] <richardeoin> Anyhow I have much love for https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded
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[20:39] <Charlie_> yeah but what about hardware?
[20:41] <richardeoin> you can buy black magic probes, links at the bottom of this page http://www.blacksphere.co.nz/main/blackmagic
[20:41] <Charlie_> I have to import? :O ;)
[20:41] <richardeoin> or get a st link board like the one laurence linked above, and load texane / openocd
[20:43] <richardeoin> haha there's no uk distributors for the bmp I know of :(
[20:44] <Charlie_> Well Laurences one is £16 from Farnell so no competition there for me :P
[20:45] <richardeoin> check texane / openocd supports the chip you want to program and go for it
[20:47] <Charlie_> neat
[20:47] <richardeoin> nothing open source supported the atmel SAM D when I started, but I just wrote the patch for blackmagic :P
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[20:58] <garymortimer_> what sort of heights have been reached with 36inch foil balloons?
[20:59] <Laurenceb_> I think the limit is about 10km with no payload
[20:59] <Laurenceb_> maybe 11 with H2, alu removed and pre stretching
[20:59] <garymortimer_> cool thats what I thought, thanks
[21:00] <garymortimer_> how on earth is te alu removed
[21:01] <Laurenceb_> NaOH
[21:01] <Laurenceb_> sprayed onto the envelope
[21:02] <garymortimer_> crickey lots of work for 1k
[21:06] <mfa298> I thought one of Leo's earlier balloons on a 36" made it to 12km although that might have been a once off (a particularly good balloon, very small payload, exactly the right gas fill and launch conditions)
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[21:21] <gps_mode> hello
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[21:32] <Laurenceb_> mfa298: Leo used custom envelopes
[21:33] <Charlie_> The Japanese company doesnt export so thats that
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[21:43] <mfa298> Laurenceb_: I thought the early ones were standard 36" ones
[21:43] <Laurenceb_> yes, but they were <10km
[21:44] <Laurenceb_> then he started using elliptical ones
[21:44] <Laurenceb_> then cylindrical
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[21:46] <Charlie_> hmm
[21:46] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
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[21:49] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YT-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3YT-11
[21:49] <mfa298> Laurenceb_: looking through the list I might be remembering the bugs that showed a higer max altitude in some of the earlier ones.
[21:49] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[21:50] <mfa298> first one that looks like it was really >10k (opposed to bugs showing >10k) was B-27 which looks like it might be the first home made one
[21:54] <Laurenceb_> yeah sounds about right
[21:54] <Laurenceb_> one of the elliptical ones
[21:55] <Charlie_> laurence thsi the one you have? http://uk.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/st-link-v2-isol/debugger-programmer-stm8-stm32/dp/2318865
[21:55] <Laurenceb_> i just use a discovery board
[21:55] <Laurenceb_> but that looks good
[21:57] <Charlie_> ok
[21:57] <Charlie_> I think I'll just copy the UoB board, get some launches done right after exams
[21:58] <Laurenceb_> not sure if texane will support atmel
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[21:59] <Charlie_> ah
[21:59] <Laurenceb_> openocd will work
[21:59] <Laurenceb_> but thats got a steeper learning curve
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[22:07] <Laurenceb_> afraid i only use stm and lpc
[22:08] <Charlie_> All this is why pics are so much easier to use :P
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[22:09] <Charlie_> well i gtg,
[22:09] <Charlie_> night
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[22:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS-45 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-45
[22:15] <lz1dev> ^ PS hype
[22:15] <lz1dev> !hysplit
[22:15] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT available for: 03K6RPT-11, PS-43, SP3OSJ, sp9uob, SP9UOB-12
[22:16] <lz1dev> !hysplit add PS-%
[22:16] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03PS-% to defaults
[22:16] <lz1dev> !hysplit remove PS-43
[22:16] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Removed 03PS-43 from defaults
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[22:19] <Laurenceb_> K6RPT-11 overdue?
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[22:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS-44 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-44
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[22:25] <lz1dev> !whereis K6RPT-11
[22:25] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03K6RPT-11 was over 03North Pacific Ocean 10(32.37749,143.53709) at 0313093 meters about 035 days ago
[22:26] <lz1dev> Laurenceb_: yeah
[22:27] <amell> i love chewing support material
[22:28] <amell> sorry wrong channel. was meant for the 3d printing channel :)
[22:29] <lz1dev> now we know your little secret
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[22:47] <Laurenceb_> wow they are finally making progress
[22:47] <Laurenceb_> https://www.iter.org/album/media/4%20-%20aerial/2015#3492
[22:48] <Laurenceb_> very cool https://www.iter.org/doc/all/content/com/gallery/Media/4%20-%20Aerial/2015/Drone_Pit_1a_small.jpg
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[22:49] <lz1dev> Laurenceb_: what is that?
[22:49] <Laurenceb_> ITER
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[22:50] <edmoore> is it built yet?
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> lolnop
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[22:50] <Laurenceb_> come back in 50 years
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> but they have at least built something
[22:50] <Laurenceb_> very cool https://www.iter.org/doc/all/content/com/gallery/Media/4%20-%20Aerial/2015/Drone_Pit_1a_small.jpg
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> There is a simple doable today fusion system that can work on earth.
[22:51] <Laurenceb_> cold fusion?
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> It just involves a large cave, a salt dispenser to fill the cave half with falling salt in vacuum, and a 20MT fusion device.
[22:52] <Laurenceb_> hahaha that
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