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[00:47] <Ian_> Personally I'm in favour of Zulu time and I can work out the rest, like the UK is Zulu (UTC) during the winter and now Alpha (BSummerTime). Singapore used to be 7.5 hours ahead of Zulu so the signals time zone designation was Golf Hotel . . . Seems they have moved Singapore since then though ;)
[00:48] <Ian_> Nothing wrong with a bit of pedantry russss, it keeps people on their toes from time to time.
[00:49] <russss> NASA does run everything in UTC internally but they don't expose it externally so much
[00:51] <Ian_> I guess that they would have to for sanity sake really.
[00:52] <Ian_> Live local time, work Zulu
[00:52] <russss> living in UTC(+1) is a blessing for that kind of stuff
[00:52] <Ian_> Bed time here though . . . Gnite.
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[02:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DC2EH-5 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=DC2EH-5
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[03:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YSP_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3YSP_chase
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[04:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0345rff_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=45rff_chase
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[05:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-41 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-41
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[06:00] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MTG004 after 039 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MTG004
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[07:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03JACKAL after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=JACKAL
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[07:23] <Vaizki> hmm PS-41 set to circumnavigate in less than 2 days.. and then head into the antarctic?
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[07:26] <x-f> anti-arctic challenge
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[07:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[08:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03GarysCar_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=GarysCar_chase
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[09:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MONDO-3 after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MONDO-3
[09:31] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_SKY_PLUS after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI_SKY_PLUS
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[09:55] <LunarWork> hello
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[09:56] <craag> Morning LunarWork
[09:57] <craag> Hows things?
[09:58] <LunarWork> good thanks and with you?
[09:58] <craag> Yeah good ta
[09:59] <craag> How's HAB prep coming along?
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[10:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MTG003 after 039 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MTG003
[10:12] <LunarWork> craag, ah OK
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[10:13] <LunarWork> will have more time for that now that the exam is done
[10:13] <craag> Oh yes how did it go?
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[11:21] <tweetBot> @philcrump2: Preliminary NOTAM approval for Sunrise HAB Launch this week! Thursday morning (~4:30am launch) looking most suitable. #ukhas
[11:22] <fsphil> oooh
[11:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Arghh leave on auto overnight I think!
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[11:24] <craag> :)
[11:24] <craag> Most likely RTTY at this stage
[11:25] <craag> Switching modes is not being reliable - and I'd rather jsut RTTY, than just LoRa.
[11:25] <gonzo_> drink just about enough water that you wake for a pee at that time
[11:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Now the frequency, are you going to put the right one in the payload document or just hope like all the recent ones have that we cn find it elsewhere ;-)
[11:25] <craag> Currently 434.100
[11:25] <craag> Will email nearer the time with confirmation :)
[11:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> I did love that Auguster one .650 comes up on .525
[11:26] <gonzo_> where are you launching from ?
[11:26] <craag> gonzo_: Golden Cross car park in new forest.
[11:26] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Sounds good
[11:27] <mattbrejza> we havnt actually been to golden cross yet?
[11:27] <fsphil> ssdv?
[11:27] <craag> no
[11:27] <craag> rtty 50 baud tracker
[11:27] <craag> canon powershot camera
[11:27] <craag> 100g hwoyee
[11:27] <fsphil> oh nice
[11:27] <fsphil> not too high then
[11:27] <craag> no
[11:27] <craag> ~15km probably
[11:28] <fsphil> not a bad idea
[11:28] <craag> might underfill a little if winds look good.
[11:28] <fsphil> could be a good use for my left over helium
[11:28] <craag> That's the reason I'm doing it ;)
[11:28] <craag> ~49% of the cylinder left from the eclipse launch
[11:29] <daveake> Don't forget to forget about flight mode
[11:29] <daveake> that'll be 3 in a row
[11:29] <gonzo_> where abouts is Golden Cross?
[11:30] <mattbrejza> north end
[11:30] <craag> daveake: I'll try not to ;)
[11:30] <gonzo_> rr
[11:30] <craag> Need to solder on the gps first..
[11:30] <fsphil> gps is optional
[11:30] <mattbrejza> the idea was to try and get a site futher from the edge of the airspace
[11:31] <mattbrejza> (still too close for no restriction though
[11:31] <mattbrejza> )
[11:35] <gonzo_> I see that stoney cross is being used as a campsite now! No more rockets for us from there then!
[11:35] <gonzo_> what daty for the launch phil? |Tomorrow?
[11:36] <gonzo_> or matt
[11:37] <mattbrejza> not all of stoney cross is a campsit
[11:37] <mattbrejza> e
[11:37] <craag> gonzo_: Likely thursday morning
[11:37] <craag> notam is thurs - sunday
[11:37] <craag> but thursday is the only dry landing
[11:38] <mattbrejza> i reckon you could fill for a isle of wright launch on fri
[11:38] <craag> Ha
[11:38] <craag> no
[11:38] <gonzo_> will see if I can be listen
[11:38] <craag> I want the camera back :P
[11:38] <daveake> land in the sea then :)
[11:38] <craag> new one would be cheaper than the ferry ticket though ;)
[11:38] <craag> heh daveake
[11:39] <Vaizki> did the payload come back from france ok btw?
[11:39] <mattbrejza> craag: http://predict.habhub.org/hourly/susf/ has been updated
[11:39] <mattbrejza> Vaizki: yea its sat on my desk
[11:40] <craag> mattbrejza: Cheers - No underfilling then!
[11:40] <mattbrejza> lol no
[11:41] <daveake> All going a bit Welsh for me
[11:41] <craag> Although actually more altitude would take it south
[11:41] <craag> anyway
[11:41] <craag> deatils
[11:42] <daveake> Should call ourselves Team Lamb Chop instead of Team Bacon
[11:42] <mattbrejza> what mass do you reckon craag ?
[11:42] <craag> mattbrejza: 300g I think?
[11:43] <mattbrejza> pruskin was 340g
[11:43] <mattbrejza> that had an extra set of batteries, tracker, and camera
[11:43] <mattbrejza> 250 perhaps?
[11:43] <mattbrejza> 18km a bit optimisitc, changed to 15km
[11:44] <craag> 15km more likely
[11:44] <mattbrejza> prediction doesnt change mich though
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[11:44] <craag> Yeah it swings back at ~16km
[11:45] <craag> Ah, 200g
[11:45] <craag> Should read my notes lol
[11:45] <mattbrejza> heh
[12:15] <SQ5KVS> hi ladies and gentlemans
[12:16] <SQ5KVS> are you planning take over the world? any details? :)
[12:20] <UpuWork> next week SQ5KVS
[12:21] <SQ5KVS> good to know, I will prepare a beam, RX and the bottle. And of corse camera connected to YT :D
[12:23] <pidpawel> :D
[12:23] <pidpawel> SQ5KVS SQ9PID :)
[12:25] <SQ5KVS> pidpawel: qsl my friend :)
[12:25] <pidpawel> :D
[12:25] <SQ5KVS> fajf najn
[12:25] <pidpawel> fajf najn plas tBenti
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[12:40] <SQ5KVS> Hi EI2KK
[12:42] <EI2KK> Hi there,
[12:51] <SQ5KVS> nothing here
[12:51] <pidpawel> usually it's a little bit noisy i can say& :P
[12:52] <Dread> not so much, under 1s for ukf
[12:52] <Dread> uhf*
[12:52] <Dread> vhf******
[12:53] <pidpawel> :D
[12:54] <Dread> why polish uhf is not the same as international uhf ._.
[12:56] <SQ5KVS> because of what? taste different?
[12:58] <Dread> i thought about name
[12:59] <pidpawel> vkf -> uhf and ukf -> vhf?
[12:59] <Dread> ukf as 6m-23cm
[12:59] <pidpawel> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fale_decymetrowe http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKF
[12:59] <Dread> but ukf is vhf+uhf
[12:59] <SQ5KVS> ha, right
[13:00] <pidpawel> Dread: eee& no?
[13:00] <SQ5KVS> maybe it's becase uhf is "ultra high frequency" but UKF mean "ultra short waves" :)
[13:00] <Dread> yup
[13:00] <Dread> pidpawel: so how do you call '70cm and higher'?
[13:01] <Dread> 70 and 23cm aren't microwaves
[13:01] <pidpawel> 300MHz to 3GHz = UHF/VKF
[13:01] <Dread> vkf?
[13:01] <SQ5KVS> , it's semantics..
[13:02] <pidpawel> yes it is :)
[13:02] <Dread> very krótkie fale? XD
[13:02] <pidpawel> dunno, lol :D
[13:02] <Dread> nor do i.
[13:03] <Vaizki> ultra kooky frequency
[13:03] <Dread> :D
[13:03] <Vaizki> very kosher frequency
[13:03] <SQ5KVS> :D
[13:04] <Vaizki> I just realized there's not many adjectives that start with K .. :O
[13:04] <Dread> very jevish frequencies :D
[13:04] <pidpawel> :D
[13:04] <Dread> now i know due to what i don't hear anything on 2m
[13:04] <Vaizki> maybe they are kurdish frequencies
[13:04] <Dread> ITS ALL ABOUT JEWS!
[13:04] <Dread> or russians
[13:05] <SQ5KVS> anyway it;s much better than with some length units. For example I found yestareday a traditional russion lenght unit - Arszyn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolete_Russian_units_of_measurement#Length
[13:05] <Vaizki> ah that's why there's russians on my 144.500.. it's the ultra kosmonaut frequency
[13:05] <pidpawel> :D :D :D
[13:05] <SQ5KVS> the arszyn is the sum of the length of the elbow and feet
[13:06] <SQ5KVS> so, wtf... :)
[13:06] <Dread> :D
[13:06] <Vaizki> WELL.. in Finland we invented measurements from Russia, Sweden and England
[13:06] <Vaizki> not invented.. inherited.
[13:06] <Vaizki> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_obsolete_units_of_measurement
[13:07] <Vaizki> and some of our own such as poronkusema  (approximately 7.5 km). A Sami measurement of distance; the distance a reindeer can travel before needing to stop to urinate.
[13:07] <SQ5KVS> very practical in Your case
[13:07] <SQ5KVS> :D
[13:08] <SQ5KVS> but, imagine that You wil try measure some with ..... argh.. arszyn
[13:08] <pidpawel> :D
[13:09] <EI2KK> there is only UKF for both VHF and UHF
[13:09] <Vaizki> ultra highlander frequency - there can be only one
[13:09] <Vaizki> ok I need coffee - now
[13:09] <SQ5KVS> put Your feet, and next put your ell and measure , and repeat it hundred times :D
[13:10] <EI2KK> why people use 'dosen' in UK? do they have 12 fingers?
[13:10] <SQ5KVS> Only russians can do this .... when they are drunk
[13:11] <SQ5KVS> EI2KK: You didn't know?
[13:11] <gonzo_> something to do with the nukmber of useful divsors of 12
[13:12] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03K6RPT-11 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K6RPT-11
[13:16] <SQ5KVS> thanks god, a news in the topic :D
[13:17] <EI2KK> Vaizki, I am sure reindeer doesn't need to stop to urinate :) lol
[13:20] <Vaizki> well you would be incorrect
[13:20] <Vaizki> they cannot urinate while running
[13:21] <Vaizki> I don't know the details but they do stop every time they need to "go"..
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[13:23] <Vaizki> due to the family friendly nature of this channel I won't go into details on what happens if you don't let your reindeer stop for a break and how to treat it...
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[13:23] <edmoore> yes we work hard to keep this channel are very friendly place of altitude
[13:25] <Babs____> Afternoon - if I have a two sided SMD pcb and am heating up one side of it whilst already having attached components on the other, is heat transfer a problem and will I just see the components sliding off the bottom
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[13:25] <Babs____> When I try to put the second layer on?
[13:25] <Babs____> Having a feel the pcb doesn't look like a terribly good heat conductor
[13:25] <EI2KK> how do they migrate?
[13:26] <zyp> Babs____, it's usually not a problem
[13:26] <zyp> how are you reflowing it?
[13:26] <Babs____> Hot air gun
[13:26] <EI2KK> OK, subject change :) hunting for PS-41/42 :)
[13:26] <zyp> Babs____, I've done double sided assembly in reflow oven, no problem
[13:26] <Babs____> Ok thanks zyp
[13:27] <zyp> usaully light component will stay in place due to surface tension anyway, but the bottom shouldn't get hot enough that that's something to consider
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[13:28] <Babs____> Ok
[13:32] <Vaizki> edmoore, it is indeed amazing how well under control even the normal dryish english humour and friendly banter is here.. considering the significant uk population on the channel.
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[13:33] <edmoore> Vaizki, this is a nice channel
[13:34] <edmoore> i'm probably the most acidic person on it
[13:34] <edmoore> and I'm lovely, really.
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[13:35] <Babs____> Vaizki - watch this
[13:36] <Babs____> Edmoore - I think a Dremel is a superb example
[13:36] <Babs____> Of the best in British design. What say you?
[13:37] <Vaizki> :D
[13:37] <SQ5KVS> :o
[13:37] <edmoore> i'm now on display so i'll stay quiet
[13:38] <edmoore> i'm just sure no one here would use a dremel for anthing that mattered
[13:38] <edmoore> out of self respect
[13:38] <edmoore> and respect for those around them
[13:38] <edmoore> sort of for a similar reason to why we wash and don't walk around naked in a supermarket
[13:38] <Vaizki> I have one. in a nice wooden box. I think. Haven't opened the box since 2003.
[13:38] <Vaizki> could be a petrified banana in there for all I know
[13:39] <russss> I used a dremel for something once
[13:39] <edmoore> i have been naked in public once
[13:39] <edmoore> but you don't talk about it
[13:39] <SQ5KVS> electric shaver should be a good substitute :D
[13:39] <Babs____> Arf
[13:39] <edmoore> it's like the engineering version of a stag night
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[13:39] <edmoore> you just... don't talk about it
[13:39] <Vaizki> when someone says "British design" in an environment such as this channel, this is what flashes in my mind.. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/AVO_Model_8_Mk7_P4_by_Megger.jpg
[13:40] <Babs____> In all seriousness, I quite like mine in certain situations
[13:40] <edmoore> yeah they're ok
[13:40] <edmoore> i use them (well, an air-tool version) for cleaning up things to be tig welded
[13:40] <edmoore> nice for finely cleaning up and preparting joints on stainless tubes and so on
[13:41] <Babs____> If I put it on next to the baby, she goes to sleep
[13:41] <edmoore> but i don't like those little cutting wheels that detonate if you look at them
[13:41] <Babs____> I might need to think twice when she can crawl and grab it
[13:41] <Babs____> Agreed on the cutting wheels, save for carbon fibre rod when they work quite well
[13:43] <Vaizki> you put a running dremel in the baby's bed? :)
[13:43] <SQ5KVS> to calm :D
[13:45] <Vaizki> well I can't judge, large portions of my life fall under the "it seemed like a good idea at the time" excuse
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[13:46] <SQ5KVS> Vaizki: You mean the childhood ? :)
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[13:49] <Guest79121> long distance record for me this AM just about 1km I think but it proved things worked
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[14:19] <SQ5KVS> the day is over for PS-41
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[14:21] <lz1dev> !whereis ps-41
[14:21] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03PS-41 was over 03Indian Ocean 10(-51.778,61.507) at 039084 meters about 03an hour ago
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[15:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Do like these geometric flights we get from Pi Sky deliveries!
[15:07] <daveake> yeah I emailed the customer
[15:07] <daveake> gently pointed him to TFM
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[15:13] <fsphil> weirdly being received by jcoxon, from the netherlands
[15:13] <fsphil> that's impressive range
[15:14] <daveake> lol
[15:14] <daveake> didn't spot that bit
[15:20] <daveake> email sent
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[16:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N7ERU-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N7ERU-11
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[16:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-42 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-42
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[17:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N8ERF-5_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N8ERF-5_chase
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[18:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03J2313652 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=J2313652
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[18:26] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[19:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[19:17] <amell> what time was the spacex attempt again?
[19:17] <amell> 21.10 BST
[19:17] <amell> just over 50 mins time
[19:18] <Vaizki> 21.10 Borked Spacelaunch Time
[19:22] <lz1dev> they'll probably cacel due to watehr
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[19:26] <fsphil> not just as much lightning in the area
[19:26] <fxmulder> no anvil clouds either
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[19:35] <gonzo_> is there a video stream?
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[19:40] <fxmulder> there will be
[19:40] <fxmulder> http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
[19:41] <fxmulder> nasatv is also streaming
[19:42] <gonzo_> ta
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[19:49] <daveake> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVpa25iqH0
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[19:51] <Upu> jesus that made me jump
[19:51] <Upu> had the volume up :)
[19:52] <adamgreig> hey upu you know those 2 pin power connectors you use on PITS etc? any good?
[19:52] <daveake> lol Upu
[19:52] <Upu> yeah very solid
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[19:52] <adamgreig> looking for something to use for power in to my little 70cm amp from minikits
[19:52] <Upu> TE Connectivity
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[19:52] <adamgreig> would like something that locks rather than a barrel jack
[19:52] <Upu> yep
[19:52] <adamgreig> have you seen/tried the panel mount part?
[19:52] <adamgreig> or just the pcb/wire ones?
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[19:53] <prog> we need to track them
[19:53] <Upu> searching for wire to board connectors is omg where did my life go
[19:53] <Upu> find one
[19:53] <Upu> use it for ever
[19:53] <adamgreig> haha tell me about it
[19:53] <adamgreig> I really like JST PA series for wire to board now
[19:53] <adamgreig> 2mm pitch, 3A per contact, locks
[19:53] <adamgreig> so use them all over
[19:53] <adamgreig> but no panel mount version
[19:54] <Upu> Ed is your man
[19:54] <Upu> however you'dll come out with some milspec thing costing £2500
[19:54] <adamgreig> he would probably suggest amphenol circular :p
[19:54] <Upu> natch
[19:54] <adamgreig> the lemos for this situation are only about £13
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[19:54] <adamgreig> so i'm a bit tempted, because, lemos
[19:54] <adamgreig> but the TE ones are like 30p
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[19:55] <Upu> these I use are cheap, support the wires so they don't break and lock nicely
[19:55] <Upu> downside is they are large
[19:55] <Upu> http://i.imgur.com/H53i08a.jpg
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[19:55] <Upu> and contact even 0603 componets
[19:55] <Upu> if you're not careful
[19:55] <adamgreig> they look similar to the pro power ones we used on the.grid for EMF https://www.dropbox.com/sc/37i9kfrcpz9p45b/AACh2NZ42PejXaW4J7OiXCaQa
[19:55] <daveake> Judjing by some customers, so long as they're absolutely impossible to insert reversed, I'm happy
[19:55] <Upu> yup similar
[19:56] <Upu> yes that
[19:56] <daveake> Judging
[19:56] <Upu> the boards on the other hands :)
[19:56] <adamgreig> haha
[19:56] <fsphil> clear skies in florida
[19:56] <daveake> yes
[19:56] <adamgreig> http://onecall.farnell.com/te-connectivity-amp/172157-1/housing-receptacle-2-way-nylon/dp/1248272
[19:56] <adamgreig> looks like the right panel mount part
[19:56] <adamgreig> shame the panel cutout shape is so insane
[19:56] <mikestir> anyone know if there's another spacex stream that doesn't fall over after 10 seconds?
[19:56] <Upu> Youtube mikestir
[19:56] <adamgreig> mikestir: http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/04/13/spacex-6-mission-status-center/ is often ok for me?
[19:56] <Upu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVpa25iqH0&ab_channel=SpaceX
[19:56] <Upu> anything but ustream
[19:57] <adamgreig> ah nice, hadn't seen the yt one
[19:57] <adamgreig> ideal
[19:57] <adamgreig> big without going fullscreen too
[19:57] <fsphil> also works on my chromecast
[19:57] <mikestir> cheers. that's better
[19:58] <fsphil> wouldn't mind being in florida to see one of these going up
[19:58] <chrisstubbs> upu, I see 3D print :)
[20:02] <Upu> you do :)
[20:04] <fxmulder> will be nice if they get brownsville going, I can make the 5hr drive for that
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> That would be nice
[20:05] <amell> anyone want to bet whether this launch gets scrubbed?
[20:05] <fxmulder> no because we don't want to jinx it
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[20:05] <amell> that dragon looks darn nice
[20:05] <SpeedEvil> Next try is 16th if this desn't work
[20:06] <fsphil> they need to fix that close up camera
[20:06] <fsphil> it keeps pausing
[20:06] <amell> whats wrong with it
[20:06] <fsphil> thought it was my stream but the clock keeps going
[20:06] <amell> arm thing is moving
[20:06] <murb> "Live Streaming is not available in your country due to rights issues" # oh wtf.
[20:06] <fsphil> youtube?
[20:06] <murb> yeah
[20:06] <amell> works for me
[20:06] <Upu> what country ?
[20:06] <murb> uk / germany
[20:07] <amell> towers moving away
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> UK here
[20:07] <Vaizki> works from Finland too
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[20:07] <Upu> odd
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> wrks on youtube
[20:07] <fsphil> weird
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> rty a reload
[20:07] <murb> SpeedEvil: works for you?
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> germany youtube livestreaming is not working due to rights issues
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[20:07] <Upu> try nasa tv murb
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> murb: yes
[20:07] <Lunar_Lander> some stuff that youtube needs a TV license above 500 viewers
[20:07] <SpeedEvil> (youtube)
[20:07] <fsphil> dragon is hissing
[20:08] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: Ah - so only 500 people in germany can watch youtube?
[20:08] <murb> nasa is flash only as far as i know.
[20:08] <amell> the you tube link is not time synced. theres a delay. im comparing time on screen with my ntp time. seems to be about 30s-40s delay.
[20:08] <fsphil> someone call Daenerys
[20:08] <murb> SpeedEvil: seems like it some times!
[20:08] <SpeedEvil> That seems a very sensible and rational decision that will boost productivity
[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> no, because of these issues, there is no streaming on youtube in germany at all
[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> livestreaming that is
[20:08] <fsphil> that's no fun
[20:08] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander: wacky
[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:08] <fsphil> youtube could just claim to stream from outside germany
[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> like the thing with music being blocked due to no agreement
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[20:08] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[20:08] <murb> We're sorry, but this video is unavailable on this device # thanks you stream.
[20:08] <amell> You have TV licenses in germany?
[20:09] <fsphil> though I suppose they have german offices
[20:09] <Lunar_Lander> yeah with a license I mean a license to provide a TV service
[20:09] <fsphil> my nestbox live stream has had german viewers
[20:09] <murb> amell: no, every household just has to pay ~ 18¬ broadcast "fee" a month
[20:09] <amell> oh i see. not receive
[20:09] <amell> 18E a month? wow. and we complain about the bbc license fee...
[20:10] <murb> amell: sorry 17.98¬ ...
[20:10] <fsphil> I don't. gives me Doctor Who, Only Connect and Orphan Black
[20:10] <amell> turbopumps conditioning
[20:10] <Lunar_Lander> 30
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> come on don't cache now
[20:11] <daveake> 30 now
[20:11] <fsphil> I should probably turn the volume down before launch....
[20:11] <daveake> on YT here
[20:11] <fsphil> nah
[20:11] <fsphil> youtube 10 here
[20:11] <fsphil> 5...
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> flying
[20:11] <daveake> no spilers :)
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[20:11] <amell> oh my god!
[20:11] <Lunar_Lander> do they have the ship out this time for landing?
[20:11] <amell> yes
[20:12] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:12] <amell> fingers crossed.
[20:12] <amell> looking good
[20:12] <gonzo_> that was a quick launch
[20:12] <amell> shush
[20:12] <amell> no spoilers ;)
[20:12] <gonzo_> more like a firework, than the shuttle
[20:13] <gonzo_> you not watching?
[20:13] <amell> yes, but i think daveake is watching cache lol
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[20:13] <daveake> :1:55 now
[20:13] <amell> +2.22 for me.
[20:14] <daveake> very smooth compared to a shuttle
[20:14] <gonzo_> when we used to monitor the shuttle comms, the nasa tv feed was usually a min behind
[20:14] <amell> I just love that bell glow
[20:14] <gonzo_> the onboard cam stuff is stonkin'
[20:15] <fsphil> neat seeing the first stage firing its thrusters
[20:15] <amell> yep
[20:15] <amell> wish they would stay on it
[20:15] <mikestir> I know. I bet that's what everyone is really watching this launch for
[20:15] <fsphil> still, that's a pretty view of the earth
[20:15] <Lunar_Lander> the LOX tank cam from the last two flights was cool too#
[20:15] <amell> nice glowing bell end
[20:16] <fsphil> wonder if they split into two teams, one for each stage
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> Was that call 'stage 1 boostback startup' ?
[20:16] <fsphil> yea
[20:16] <fsphil> and shutdown
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> and shutdown - at about the right time.
[20:16] <SpeedEvil> just two burns left!
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[20:17] <amell> this bell end is boring
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[20:18] <fxmulder> yeah stage1 is what we really want to see
[20:18] <gonzo_> very saturl like, with that manifold running around it
[20:18] <number10> no one is forcing you to watch it amell
[20:18] <fsphil> stage 1 nts? system safed
[20:18] <amell> no. i am hoping that they will show some 1st stage shortly
[20:19] <fsphil> doubt it
[20:19] <amell> wow. i like the optimum path line
[20:19] <fsphil> trans-sonic
[20:19] <Darkside> cmonn wheres the landing video
[20:19] <fsphil> landing burn
[20:19] <fsphil> eeeee
[20:19] <amell> that may be a while
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> LOX
[20:19] <Lunar_Lander> transonic
[20:20] <gonzo_> the prob don't have enough ground stns to track two vehicled for live video
[20:20] <fsphil> landing burn should be over by now
[20:20] <fsphil> yea it's too far out to sea
[20:20] <Lunar_Lander> people
[20:20] <mikestir> should relay the video off the second stage
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[20:20] <fxmulder> drone + satellite relay
[20:20] <amell> is it down yet?
[20:20] <fsphil> mmmm
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[20:21] <fsphil> last mention was the landing burn starting
[20:21] <fsphil> nothing since
[20:21] <fsphil> the second stage will be out of range of the first one
[20:21] <amell> 2nd stage gone now
[20:21] <fsphil> oh nice separation
[20:21] <amell> now need to make that piece land :)
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> yay you can see zero-G from that indoor cam
[20:22] <Lunar_Lander> when the bags moved up :D
[20:22] <fsphil> that's so smooth
[20:22] <fsphil> over newfieland
[20:22] <fsphil> wonder if it'll be visible here
[20:23] <Darkside> no tweet from musy yet
[20:23] <Darkside> musk*
[20:23] <lz1dev> angry_vet
[20:23] <lz1dev> angry_vet It looks like my ex wife's heart.
[20:23] <lz1dev> :(
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> panels open
[20:24] <amell> wheres the video from? the 2nd stage?
[20:24] <fxmulder> stage1 landing would be big news, no mention of it I think is a bad thing
[20:24] <Lunar_Lander> must be dragon onboard
[20:24] <fsphil> both I think
[20:25] <gonzo_> they usee to get footage from the shuttle boosters landing
[20:25] <darkstar-2001> @SpaceXengineer said "We falcon punched the barge... @SpaceX CRS-6"
[20:25] <darkstar-2001> on twitter
[20:25] <amell> wtf does that mean
[20:25] <fsphil> oops lol
[20:25] <Lunar_Lander> once more?
[20:25] <lz1dev> oppps :P
[20:25] <fsphil> "Spacex hit the barge!! Not a good landing, but it hit it."
[20:26] <fsphil> via @sarahcruddas
[20:26] <amell> did it go overboard...
[20:26] <gonzo_> that mision ctrl just does not have the feel of nasa
[20:26] <darkstar-2001> "Spacex hit the barge!! Not a good landing, but it hit it."
[20:26] <fsphil> so twice they've hit it. nothing wrong with their aim
[20:27] <gonzo_> looks more like a games convention
[20:27] <fxmulder> more hydraulic fluid!
[20:27] <fsphil> lan party
[20:27] <amell> so what was the issue this time. last time it was not enough hydraulic fluid
[20:27] <fsphil> haven't been to a lan party in years
[20:27] <fsphil> dunno amell, but I'm going to blame Obama
[20:28] <gonzo_> with fast broardband, why would anyone?
[20:28] <fsphil> so I can see the face of those I crush
[20:28] <fxmulder> maybe if they had better coverage of the stage1 landing we'd have a better idea why its not landing
[20:29] <Reb-SM3ULC> Any "experts" on socat here? Trying to clone single serial/tcp to multi tcp, but reuseaddr+fork does not seem to work..
[20:29] <Lunar_Lander> last time it was pretty dark when the stage crashed
[20:29] <fsphil> no doubt we'll see video later in the week
[20:29] <fsphil> looking forward to it
[20:30] <amell> 1elonmusk
[20:30] <amell> 1Ascent successful. Dragon enroute to Space Station. Rocket landed on droneship, but too hard for survival.
[20:30] <amell> 12https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/588076749562318849
[20:30] <bradfirj> the RCS bursts as the first stage aligns itself were fanstastic
[20:30] <bradfirj> Amazing the camera could see those
[20:30] <mikestir> too hard for survival of what? rocket, ship or both?
[20:30] <amell> reusabliity i guess
[20:30] <fsphil> it may be an x-barge
[20:31] <amell> lol
[20:31] <daveake> x marks the splat
[20:31] <kc2pit_> Heh.
[20:31] <bradfirj> I wonder why they don't catch it with a bigass net strung between 4 ships
[20:31] <bradfirj> although "seawater" may be the reason
[20:31] <mikestir> it should double as a submarine
[20:31] <kc2pit_> Don't expect that a tall, skinny tube with little legs would be very stable sitting on a net.
[20:31] <fsphil> "From high altitude I stabbeth thee"
[20:32] <bradfirj> I imagine the droneship guys response
[20:32] <kc2pit_> "With my last kilo of LOX, I spit at thee!"
[20:32] <bradfirj> "God dammit could you not wreck out boat just once!"
[20:32] <bradfirj> our*
[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03J2314232 after 032 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=J2314232
[20:33] <fsphil> that's certainly a payload name
[20:33] <Lunar_Lander> XD
[20:33] <fxmulder> better luck next time I guess
[20:34] <Lunar_Lander> xD someone wrote "gg" as a reply of Elon's tweet
[20:35] <fsphil> "HEAD SHOT"
[20:36] <fsphil> still impressed they even managed to hit it
[20:38] <fsphil> the barge isn't all that big
[20:38] <bradfirj> a few years from now
[20:38] <SpeedEvil> mikestir: The barge weighs 20000 tons or so. The stage 20.
[20:38] <bradfirj> "Elon Musk, emperor of California, threatens world goverments with meter-accurate space weapons."
[20:38] <SpeedEvil> mikestir: If the stage comes down at maximum terminal velocity and crashes on deck - it may dent about a 3m diameter area
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[20:40] <fsphil> time for toast
[20:40] <amell> 1lol
[20:40] <amell> 1DJSnM1 @elonmusk have faith, it took me half a dozen attempts to perform this maneuver manually.
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[20:44] <bradfirj> fsphil: Where did summer go
[20:45] <bradfirj> :(
[20:45] <gonzo_> "rapid unscheduled disassembly event"
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[20:58] <darkstar-2001> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/588082574183903232
[20:59] <fsphil> bradfirj: yea was just outside. not nice
[21:02] <daveake> "Looks like Falcon landed fine, but excess lateral velocity caused it to tip over post landing "
[21:02] <fsphil> that makes it worse. so close!
[21:03] <daveake> https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/588082616890449920
[21:04] <Laurenceb> hmmm
[21:04] <Laurenceb> looks awkward
[21:04] <Laurenceb> tricky problem to fix
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[21:05] <fsphil> magnets
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[21:07] <Laurenceb> bleeding off remaining horizontal velocity seems hard
[21:07] <Laurenceb> maybe the grid fins could fix the problem
[21:08] <Laurenceb> i guess they will be looking at their imu/gps data carefully
[21:09] <fsphil> the second stage and dragon where visible over the UK
[21:09] <gonzo_> did the remember to set flight mode in their gps
[21:09] <fsphil> it was cloudy here
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[21:28] <mikestir> look how close to the X it is though
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[21:34] <fxmulder> anyone know of any rockets that used venting for stabilization instead of gimbaling?
[21:35] <edmoore> nothing big
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[21:35] <edmoore> some sounding rockets and things do
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[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[22:08] <amell> just seen the tweet. interesting. excess lateral velocity probably needs to be cleared down earlier with the main burn
[22:10] <amell> damn, saw a pic of it upright on the barge. So close!
[22:11] <SpeedEvil> Lateral wasn't reportedly the problem - vertical was
[22:12] <amell> Looks like Falcon landed fine, but excess lateral velocity caused it to tip over post landing 
[22:12] <amell> ?
[22:12] <amell> You want to argue with @elonmusk? be my guest.
[22:16] <SpeedEvil> oops
[22:16] <SpeedEvil> Brain fart
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[22:18] <SpeedEvil> Ascent successful. Dragon enroute to Space Station. Rocket landed on droneship, but too hard for survival.
[22:18] <SpeedEvil> ah
[22:18] <gonzo_nb> just to get it down is a huge feat
[22:18] <SpeedEvil> I was reading that as vertical
[22:18] <SpeedEvil> quite
[22:18] <SpeedEvil> It's enormously better than the last attempt
[22:18] <kc2pit_> "All we have right now is low frame rate video (basically pictures). Normal video will be posted when ship returns to port in a few days."
[22:18] <kc2pit_> Wot?
[22:18] <fsphil> well, it was a vertical problem in the end
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[22:18] <gonzo_nb> and they probably havr a shed load of data now
[22:19] <SpeedEvil> I hope it's something stupid like a GPS geoid mismatch
[22:19] <gonzo_nb> I joked earlier that the didn't put it into flight mode
[22:20] <amell> i think theyll crack it next attempt
[22:20] <amell> which is when? anyone know?
[22:21] <fsphil> elon knows
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[22:22] <amell> anyone else want to be elon? :)
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[22:24] <kc2pit_> I just have to wonder why they can't seem to get video while the ship is out at sea. I hear there are these things that live way up in the sky that can bounce radio signals to places really far away.
[22:24] <kc2pit_> Some kinda crazy magic even keeps 'em up there.
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> I guess it's possible that one or more of the antenna got squashed
[22:24] <kc2pit_> True.
[22:24] <SpeedEvil> And all that was got was the live pics
[22:25] <gonzo_nb> video from the ship cams, or the stage?
[22:26] <SpeedEvil> the barge
[22:26] <fsphil> the main job was the dragon launch though, the landing was secondary
[22:26] <gonzo_nb> rr, as the stage footage may take a bit of sifting thriough the bits
[22:38] <fxmulder> so the title of being the first to land a rocket stage after detaching from an orbit-bound stage is up for grabs if anyone wants to take a run at it :)
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[23:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03(559)375-4300_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=(559)375-4300_chase
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[23:58] <amell> Any UK people still up?
[23:59] <amell> Question is whether a 1Ghz downlink is legal in the UK. Apparently the new 3dr quadcopter uses this freq
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