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[07:09] <DL7AD> morning
[07:10] <DL7AD> the balloon which should be launched yesterday in berlin (DL4MDW-12) was launched but it unfortunately failed from the beginning.
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[08:13] <richardeoin> bradfirj: Our payload uses a SAMD20E too, https://github.com/bristol-seds/pico-tracker Not using the DAC though
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[10:16] <DL7AD> 262354
[10:16] <DL7AD> morning
[10:23] <Vaizki> morning.. and sorry to hear about your launch
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[10:33] <DL7AD> Vaizki: yeah np. actually it wasnt mine. it was thomas (DL4MDW). i have been at work.
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[10:39] <Flying_Pi> Hi guys just wondering if someone could check out my flight documents on http://habitat.habhub.org/genpayload/ to make sure they are alright for my upcoming flight. Also is anyone here in contact with CAA because i still haven't got launch permission for my flight this weekend and i emailed them 28/29 days ago so just looking for some input on my situation?
[10:40] <edmoore> nudge them when you're at T-2-3 days if you haven't heard anything
[10:40] <edmoore> often they are not issued until the last 48hrs
[10:40] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> They were also affected by the Hoborn fire last week
[10:41] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Holborn*
[10:41] <edmoore> david melter
[10:41] <Flying_Pi> Thanks guys just had started to worry as the day is rapidly approaching and I haven't heard anything..
[10:42] <edmoore> understasndable
[10:42] <edmoore> but the CAA is like the sea
[10:42] <edmoore> just gotta go with it
[10:43] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> If you want the flight doc's checked you will have to give the ID number probably best to do it in #habhub, has it been tested ?
[10:44] <Flying_Pi> No we haven't tested yet wanted to check the flight docs first, I will send a message there then thanks for your helps guys.
[10:44] <Flying_Pi> It is much appreciated
[10:44] <daveake> Steve's flight last week only got approval 9am on the morning of the flight. Something of a backlog after the fire, understandably.
[10:44] <edmoore> happy flying, pi
[10:44] <edmoore> hopefully it won't be a dying_pi
[10:45] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> If you hqven't tested the payload doc, then it won't mget cleared rapidly
[10:47] <Flying_Pi> No problem I will get it tested then. And I feel the fire would definitely be an understandable excuse for a backlog.
[11:04] <bradfirj> richardeoin: Judging from your project, you arent using Atmel Studio?
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[11:33] <amell> I got this quadcopter 3DR radio from china today. wow. uses 10 channels from 433.050 to 434.790. 100% duty cycle. 500mW&.
[11:34] <amell> Looks like a Hope HM-TRP module.
[11:37] <Vaizki> so illegal such wow :)
[11:38] <Vaizki> I thought it was a silabs one
[11:38] <Vaizki> I probably remember wrong though
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[12:02] <amell> silabs seems to be the USB to UART bridge chip
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[12:07] <richardeoin> bradfirj: yep, I'm not using atmel studio. Not sure if I'm missing a trick, but I've been fine without so far
[12:11] <edmoore> vim + gcc?
[12:11] <DL7AD> what happened to the habhub predictor?
[12:12] <DL7AD> sry my mistake
[12:12] <Laurenceb_> is atmel studio still free?
[12:13] <Laurenceb_> http://www.atmel.com/tools/atmelstudio.aspx
[12:13] <Laurenceb_> buy now
[12:13] <Laurenceb_> lolz
[12:13] <Laurenceb_> $2... whyyyy
[12:14] <richardeoin> emacs + gcc haha
[12:14] <adamgreig> booo :p
[12:14] <pc1pcl> suggest price for budgetairy use only..
[12:15] <pc1pcl> 0 units of them available in the shop...
[12:16] <pc1pcl> I think you can just DL from the section below, but not going to fill in the guestdownload form to try.
[12:16] <edmoore> ok we'll convene a secret board of elders and see if richardeoin can stay
[12:16] <adamgreig> :q!
[12:17] <adamgreig> oh wait, this isn't the voting room
[12:17] <edmoore> shall we save him?
[12:17] <richardeoin> my little finger is only slightly distorted..
[12:17] <edmoore> let's save him
[12:17] <edmoore> C-m C-s C-x C-turnip
[12:17] <daveake> :w
[12:17] <adamgreig> hang on let me plug in my foot pedal, run out of keys
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[12:18] <edmoore> leth thtart thpeaking like thith
[12:18] <adamgreig> hmm this cluster thinks I've used 184,845 GB of RAM
[12:18] <adamgreig> I'm suspicious
[12:18] <adamgreig> wish it would hurry up and finish computing anyway
[12:19] <edmoore> that's a lot of ram
[12:19] <adamgreig> maybe it's measuring total memory throughput
[12:19] <adamgreig> even so..
[12:20] <edmoore> richardeoin, it's ok you can stay
[12:20] <edmoore> you use a command line i guess so that's fine
[12:21] <edmoore> just incase, a command line is something you have in a terminal which is part of a unix operating system
[12:21] <edmoore> which is a module you can load into emacs
[12:21] <richardeoin> I think I tried that once...
[12:21] <edmoore> unix also has a good text editor built in if you ever decide you want to try one
[12:22] <richardeoin> haha I see
[12:22] <richardeoin> It's called nano right?
[12:22] <edmoore> :q!
[12:22] <daveake> nono
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[12:23] <richardeoin> Genuinely what I use before a system has my .emacs loaded
[12:23] <edmoore> visudo uses nano
[12:23] <edmoore> at least it did
[12:23] <edmoore> at least on debian
[12:23] <edmoore> and that was confusing and upsetting
[12:24] <richardeoin> wow
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[12:26] <pc1pcl> it just uses $EDITOR.. but just tried it out and still uses nano if you have $EDITOR unset.
[12:26] <richardeoin> emacs has required me to map the caps lock onto ctrl
[12:26] <richardeoin> Less my left pinkie becomes permanently curled up
[12:27] <edmoore> i could actually probably tolerate it with vim mode enabled
[12:27] <edmoore> like, i see the pleasure of using something written in lisp for developing lisp
[12:28] <richardeoin> well emacs forces you to learn lisp eventually
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[12:29] <richardeoin> maybe that's a good thing
[12:31] <edmoore> yes probably it is
[12:31] <richardeoin> gcc-arm-none-eabi is great also
[12:32] <richardeoin> It's great a vendor is committed to a freely available toolchain
[12:32] <richardeoin> Also the latest build has python support
[12:32] <edmoore> yes that's what i use
[12:33] <edmoore> just whatever the arm peeps hav put up on launchpad
[12:33] <edmoore> i think i have the latest one
[12:33] <edmoore> within the last month certainly
[12:33] <richardeoin> terry and the bros
[12:35] <edmoore> ?
[12:36] <richardeoin> The lead dev is called Terry, it's his ppa
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[12:36] <edmoore> oh
[12:36] <edmoore> sounded like a 70s band
[12:38] <edmoore> richardeoin, is the rockoon project still a thing?
[12:38] <richardeoin> no no no
[12:38] <richardeoin> The page has a big box at the top saying 'historical only' iirc
[12:39] <edmoore> is that a no then
[12:40] <richardeoin> It would be an awesome project of course, but no-one in the society has the ballooning or rocketry or legal expertees
[12:40] <richardeoin> Or anything near
[12:41] <SpeedEvil> Watch this space.
[12:41] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb is giving talk at the upcoming conference I think
[12:41] <bradfirj> Sorry I started a holy war and went afk and missed the aftermath
[12:41] <bradfirj> woops!
[12:42] <SpeedEvil> (on rockoons)
[12:42] <bradfirj> richardeoin: You just pull in ASF headers as needed then?
[12:42] <bradfirj> TBH I only boot into windows for atmel studio and videogames so it may be worth a shot again...
[12:42] <richardeoin> bradfirj: yep, they're bsd licensed
[12:42] <richardeoin> And read the example code at the same time :)
[12:43] <bradfirj> The docs are pretty fantastic
[12:44] <richardeoin> Mmm, I should find a way of reading them with diagrams etc
[12:44] <richardeoin> Not the same in a text editor
[12:44] <richardeoin> SpeedEvil: That sounds interesting, I'll definitely be there
[12:44] <Laurenceb_> hello
[12:45] <SpeedEvil> There are all sorts of fun problems.certainly
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> people talking bout me
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[12:45] <richardeoin> There's a presentation from bristol seds conference about their rockoon plans
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> yeah, including legal stuff indeed :P
[12:45] <Laurenceb_> i should get back onto that
[12:46] <richardeoin> But nothing was ever done afaik
[12:46] <Laurenceb_> CAA basically dont have any precedent for dealing with rockoons :S
[12:46] Action: Laurenceb_ has hardware close to completion
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> For small rockoons - under 10 newton-seconds - rockets - launched anywhere - are explicitly outside the law.
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> that is - unregulated
[12:48] <SpeedEvil> But - as you can't get a rockoon up to an interesting altitude with a sub 2m balloon, that's not so helpful
[12:48] <SpeedEvil> Because they need to approve it anyway
[12:49] <Laurenceb_> not necessarily
[12:49] <Laurenceb_> but you cant get very high with 10Ns
[12:49] <Laurenceb_> need over an order of mag more than that
[12:51] <richardeoin> I think some of the people who were involved with the bristol rockoon project are now working on http://www.xrt-s.co.uk
[12:54] <Laurenceb_> very cool
[12:55] <richardeoin> seems to be going well too, they've got a quiet site, a dish, a receiver...
[12:56] <adamgreig> SpeedEvil: do you have a reference for the 10Ns thing?
[12:59] <Laurenceb_> where did they pick up a 4.5m dish ?!
[13:00] <edmoore> that's cool richardeoin
[13:00] <edmoore> would make a nice high bandwidth cubesat downlink too
[13:02] <richardeoin> A steerable 4.5 metre dish? Yeah that would make a very good downlink
[13:02] <edmoore> precisely
[13:03] <Laurenceb_> hmm....
[13:03] <Laurenceb_> actually i think you could be on to a winner
[13:03] <Laurenceb_> richardeoin: you need to email SSTL
[13:03] <richardeoin> Bristol uni has a dish too http://www.grazebrookarchitects.co.uk/images/Projects/bristol-university-physics-building-roof-renovation.jpg
[13:04] <edmoore> i'd love a dish
[13:04] <Laurenceb_> they had major issues with steerable dish capacity last time i spoke to them
[13:04] <Laurenceb_> you could rent out time on your dish
[13:05] <edmoore> i feel like renting out dish hours could probably be reasonably nice money
[13:05] <edmoore> provided the hardware is reliable
[13:05] <richardeoin> Hmm I'll email the xrt-c guys to suggest that. I'm not actually part of the project myself
[13:05] <edmoore> wrong uni
[13:06] <edmoore> (seems like they're all exeter)
[13:06] <edmoore> what is next for bristolseds then?
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[13:07] <richardeoin> There's the entry to the ukseds rocketry competition
[13:07] <richardeoin> Limited to a G class motor but should still be fun
[13:07] <Laurenceb_> yes, it will murder the dish mounts
[13:08] <richardeoin> And pico ballooning
[13:09] <gonzo_> some of the probe missions (stereo comes to mind) are always short of S band RX stations
[13:09] <gonzo_> and doable on a small mesh dish
[13:10] <edmoore> is it a G altitude record or something?
[13:10] <edmoore> G is still pretty weedy
[13:13] <richardeoin> It's an inter university competition. Altitude is weighted about 40% but there's points for design report, payload etc
[13:13] Action: Laurenceb_ is using a G class for his rockoon
[13:15] <edmoore> maybe adamgreig could be tempted
[13:15] <edmoore> if he gets bored with martlet2
[13:16] <Laurenceb_> maybe i should enter lol
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[13:17] <adamgreig> I get so many emails about the UKSEDS rocketry competition
[13:18] <adamgreig> we were like, meh
[13:18] <adamgreig> you're not allowed to go supersonic
[13:18] <adamgreig> limited to that one particular G class motor iirc
[13:18] <edmoore> i remember jeremy nickless mentioning it a couple of yrs ago
[13:18] <adamgreig> we thought about having some of the freshers try but even then the G is a bit dull
[13:19] <adamgreig> instead they're building that from-scratch fibreglass rocket which is quite exciting
[13:19] <edmoore> after we'd just come back from launch the N->M
[13:19] <adamgreig> it started as a pile of fabric and a bucket of glue
[13:19] <edmoore> it seemed a bit underwhelming
[13:19] <adamgreig> and now it's a ridiculously solid and quite lightweight rocket
[13:19] <adamgreig> right, we got the email about the same time, and the second competition just as we'd wrapped the design for the O8000 m2 ;)
[13:19] <adamgreig> which would struggle with the not-supersonic criteria
[13:19] <edmoore> you want to be iring something that scares you a bit
[13:20] <edmoore> even if it's strapped down to the ground
[13:20] <Laurenceb_> this G thing sounds very boring
[13:21] <richardeoin> Yeah I it's much more appropriate for us though, I don't think anyone on the team has designed / fired a rocket before
[13:21] <adamgreig> it's probably appropriate for most of the groups entering, and we did think it would be fun
[13:21] <adamgreig> like it'd be really nice to meet up with some of the other uni groups and to have a bit of a competition and stuff
[13:21] <edmoore> it's probably a useful exercise
[13:21] <edmoore> but i mean, get it done and out the way in a month
[13:21] <edmoore> then move onto something interestinger
[13:21] <adamgreig> just cuz we can shove a huge motor in a big rocket doesn't mean it wouldn't be worthwhile trying to do really well on a limited motor and budget
[13:22] <edmoore> if it's anything like the usual SEDS projects it'll be a two year long thing with commitees and overhead
[13:22] <adamgreig> but there didn't seem to really be any scope for doing better than any level-1 cert flight sort of thing
[13:22] <adamgreig> right
[13:22] <adamgreig> whereas our big ticket projects are sort of you-need-a-level3-and-a-desert
[13:23] <richardeoin> The pico ballooning is much more interesting atm though
[13:23] <edmoore> has there been any movement on big range adamgreig?
[13:23] <edmoore> richardeoin, i guess launch from bristol is ideal
[13:24] <edmoore> you get a goodly amount of receiver coverage over the south-east with the inclement winds
[13:24] <adamgreig> I haven't heard anything since I emailed back to say "sounds good, let me know"
[13:24] <richardeoin> yeah floaters would be great
[13:24] <edmoore> bonsor?
[13:24] <richardeoin> Currently trying to get our grubby hands on some evoh
[13:25] <Laurenceb_> richardeoin: you need to send some emails
[13:25] <Laurenceb_> pleasey pleasey please please
[13:25] <richardeoin> Laurenceb_: Did you say you got your hands on samples from kurray?
[13:25] <Laurenceb_> yes
[13:25] <richardeoin> I have emailed them
[13:25] <Laurenceb_> thats the way to do it
[13:26] <richardeoin> No response yet, although I only emailed yesterday
[13:26] <richardeoin> I'm passing through Antwerp on Friday, I should go cold-call on their office
[13:28] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[13:29] <Laurenceb_> I'm not sure its the best option tho
[13:29] <Laurenceb_> especially if you havent built anything before
[13:29] <Laurenceb_> its very hard to work with
[13:29] <Laurenceb_> Leo used some PE-EVOH-Nylon6 laminate from someone on ebay
[13:29] <richardeoin> So we had a launch with a custom polythene balloon a couple of weeks back
[13:30] <Laurenceb_> it was heavier but he pre stretched it with a modified blood pressure cuff controller
[13:30] <Laurenceb_> oh, nice work
[13:30] <richardeoin> My understanding was EVOH would come as PE-EVOH-PE or something
[13:30] <Laurenceb_> not the kurray stuff
[13:30] <Laurenceb_> well - the 14 micron stuff
[13:31] <Laurenceb_> Leo had 27 micron laminate
[13:31] <Laurenceb_> but the tricky thing seems to be power
[13:31] <Laurenceb_> maybe you could go for solar power
[13:31] <richardeoin> Oh it's not always coextruded?
[13:31] <Laurenceb_> no
[13:32] <Laurenceb_> aiui sometimes its laid up afterwards
[13:32] <richardeoin> Hmm we used 30 micron polythene
[13:32] <Laurenceb_> so 12µm EVOH + 8µm + 7µm Nylon6 or something
[13:32] <Laurenceb_> is what Leo had
[13:33] <Laurenceb_> but his were overkill :P
[13:33] <Laurenceb_> with H2 his envelope had theoretical flight time of ~14 years
[13:33] <richardeoin> Ah yeah about power check then solar_dev branch of our repo
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[13:33] <richardeoin> *the
[13:33] <Laurenceb_> UV would kill it after ~2.5years
[13:34] <Laurenceb_> but there are UV treatments for glasses you can use on Nylon6
[13:34] <richardeoin> We're sticking with He which leaks faster
[13:34] <Laurenceb_> so it really does look like you could get to decade flights with a pico
[13:34] <Laurenceb_> yeah, B-64 was He
[13:35] <Laurenceb_> there was no detectable He loss over the time it was transmitting
[13:35] <Laurenceb_> less than 120Pa drop in float pressure altitude, less than the error on the fit
[13:36] <richardeoin> Mmm I had a look at the data myself
[13:36] Action: Laurenceb_ grabbed all the raw data and converted to float pressure/density using historical NOAA data
[13:36] <Laurenceb_> which resulted in my ip being banned from NOAA :P
[13:37] <richardeoin> Oh wow that's more than we did
[13:37] <richardeoin> Haha
[13:37] <Laurenceb_> 100k queries does that
[13:37] <richardeoin> Tbh 1-day flights would be great at this stage
[13:37] <SpeedEvil> adamgreig: Go and look at the relevant ANO about air regulations from the CAA for everything. Search on 'small rocket'
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> It basically says 'small rockets aren't regulated'
[13:38] <richardeoin> Our polythene envelopes were loosing 0.5g free lift / hour when unpressurized on the ground
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> Therer are truly awesome films - made for packaging that are almost ideal for balloons
[13:40] <SpeedEvil> See Leos year-long flights.
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> http://www.5layer.com/
[13:41] <richardeoin> Haha yeah we just need to get our hands on some meter-sized bits
[13:41] <SpeedEvil> Foods want them for oxygen/moisture barrier
[13:41] <richardeoin> And we can't really afford a 500kg pallet ;-)
[13:41] <Laurenceb_> something to bear in mind
[13:42] <Laurenceb_> H2 is approaching 3 times better than He
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> yeah - He is leaky
[13:42] <Laurenceb_> also the permeability goes down exponentially with temperature AND humidity
[13:42] <SpeedEvil> Also - http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Five-layer-Co-extrusion-Blown-EVOH_1585430301.html?s=p - 1 ton - $3000 or so. :)
[13:43] <Laurenceb_> so you get crazy high performance with H2 at 12km altitude
[13:43] <SpeedEvil> 12km may not be optimal, depending on what you want to do
[13:44] <bradfirj> That's a question guys, say I can get H2 very cheaply, can I whap it in a foil balloon and use it for a pico launch?
[13:44] <bradfirj> I mean taking the usual precautions not to set my face on fire
[13:45] <adamgreig> any idea what "thickness: 25, product type: L/F/T, code: GCLUU0546" sort of film would be?
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> bradfirj: yes
[13:46] <richardeoin> Yeah the minimum order quantities are a problem
[13:47] <adamgreig> probably a polythene
[13:47] <adamgreig> but not sure how to decode L/F/T
[13:47] <SpeedEvil> Ask the vendor
[13:48] <Laurenceb_> probably worth just buying stuff on ebay
[13:48] <Laurenceb_> thats how Leo did it
[13:48] <adamgreig> got a bit of this already
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[13:49] <richardeoin> Lol an eBay search for evoh returns http://m.ebay.com/itm/351361306657?nav=SEARCH
[13:49] <Laurenceb_> power seems to be a bigger problem
[13:50] <Laurenceb_> maybe go for solar only
[13:50] <richardeoin> I stacked up about 10 of these downstairs before lunch
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[13:53] <Gary> hi all
[13:53] Nick change: Gary -> Guest98192
[13:53] <Guest98192> I have just put a flight document up under the name of Jackal, what next?
[13:55] <adamgreig> post the document ID on #habhub
[13:55] <adamgreig> (/join #habhub)
[13:56] <Guest98192> Ok
[13:56] <Guest98192> thanks
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[14:19] <marcis_> hello! How long is data of test payload shown on map?
[14:20] <UpuWork> about 24 hours or so
[14:20] <UpuWork> have you put some data up already ?
[14:22] <marcis_> yes, IRBE1. In should have put dl-fldigi on offline mode. Will do next time
[14:22] <edmoore> give your name to unspecified campaign group
[14:22] <edmoore> yay
[14:22] <edmoore> what could go wrong
[14:23] <marcis_> We are planning IRBE1 launch from Latvia this friday (april 10). I also made flight document already
[14:24] <UpuWork> !track IRBE1
[14:24] <SpacenearUS> 03UpuWork: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IRBE1
[14:24] <UpuWork> Do you want it removing ?
[14:24] <UpuWork> (p.s I would fix that GPS)
[14:25] <marcis_> actually it woul be nice to remove that mess :)
[14:25] <UpuWork> done
[14:25] <UpuWork> !track IRBE1
[14:25] <SpacenearUS> 03UpuWork: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=IRBE1
[14:25] <UpuWork> give it a few mins
[14:26] <marcis_> thanks! much better now!
[14:26] <UpuWork> nps
[14:26] <x-f> aww.. Friday :/
[14:27] <x-f> hi, marcis_
[14:27] <marcis_> unfortunately...
[14:27] <marcis_> Hi ;)
[14:28] <UpuWork> I would just transmit 0,0 as a location if sats < 3
[14:29] <marcis_> We are not 100% sure (depends on weather), but CAA is informed about 10.04. so its too late
[14:29] <edmoore> i don't agree with transmitting 0,0 is no lock
[14:30] <marcis_> so 0,0 does not display false position on the map?
[14:30] <edmoore> it's a valid but definitely wrong coordinate. i'd just transmit the last known good position (assuming you have one) and handle lack of lock some other way
[14:30] <marcis_> ok, we will modify that!
[14:30] <edmoore> otherwise you get annoying things during a recovery like being able to hear the payload on the ground (so you're perhaps within a kilometer or two) but having it only send 0,0 because it landed antenna-down
[14:31] <edmoore> rather than the last good coordinate as it was still descending which would be more useful
[14:32] <mattbrejza> i go for blank fields until power on, then last good if it loses it
[14:33] <mattbrejza> no reason not to send $$PAYLOAD,12,,,,,0*ABCD or something like that
[14:34] <edmoore> although a lock status is a useful addition
[14:34] <edmoore> (numsats or whatever)
[14:37] <x-f> payload doc allows you to mark sentence as invalid (not to be plotted on the map) if the sats count is too low, works for any other field too
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[14:43] <mattbrejza> num of sats is also useful for working out what is going on
[14:43] <adamgreig> you want num sats + lock status i think
[14:43] <adamgreig> or maybe sats-used-in-lock
[14:43] <adamgreig> sats-tracked
[14:43] <adamgreig> not just sats-tracked *
[14:43] <marcis_> So I need configure these filters in payload doc?
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[14:53] <edmoore> every time i hear a tig electrode being ground on the bench grinder, i know that james' coding session is going well
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[15:20] <mattbrejza> i dont think you need lock status, just dont send invalid strings
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[16:20] <amell> ho hum, does someone really want to send a balloon up with a big fat doobie attached?
[16:21] <arko> SS Snoop Dogg
[16:21] <daveake> "This is the only way to legally get high in Jersey"
[16:21] <amell> lol
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[16:34] <amell> thats helpful. I seem to have mislaid my FTDI adaptor& :(
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[17:25] <myself> daveake: I own the aerial lift that our hackerspace uses for working in the ceiling and stuff. The two ever-present jokes are "wanna get high?" and "picking up chicks".
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[18:39] <DL7AD> good evening
[18:39] <DL7AD> !flight SP5VNX
[18:39] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[18:40] <DL7AD> does SP5VNX also transmit aprs or just ukhas?
[18:41] <lz1dev> if looks like aprs callsign, its mostly like just aprs :)
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[18:41] <Lunar_Lander> evenin
[18:42] <Lunar_Lander> +g
[18:42] <DL7AD> hi
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[19:19] <ak4rp> !dial SP5NVX
[19:19] <SpacenearUS> 03ak4rp: Latest dials for 0328.275 50.625 RTTY 200/850 7n2 10(a69b): 03144.67529 MHz, 50.62307 MHz
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[20:10] <maounis> Hi! Is it possible to use FCDpro+ to decode APRS on a MAC?
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[20:24] <amell> maounis: yes. using an app called PocketPacket
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[20:31] <chris_99> http://hackaday.com/2015/04/08/ask-hackaday-quadcopter-in-near-space/ - that'd be fun
[20:31] <chris_99> ignoring legality
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[22:27] <amell> df13 crimp tool http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/DF13-TB2630HC/H9994-ND/241820 $774!!!
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