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[07:03] <Vaizki> morning
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[08:46] <Vaizki> I spammed about this last week as well but in case anyone is interested.. one day left in the UK test equipement auction
[08:46] <Vaizki> http://www.equipnet.com/auctions/exceptional-offering-of-communication-testers%2c-analyzers%2c-oscilloscopes%2c-ge/652/
[08:46] <Vaizki> although you have to have a business and VAT ID to register for it
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[09:17] <UpuWork> anyone speak Slovak ?
[09:18] <Vaizki> did you lose another one in the mountains?
[09:19] <UpuWork> had a parcel returned
[09:19] <UpuWork> need to put "actually delivery it pls" in Slovak on the package
[09:19] <UpuWork> GLS are crap
[09:19] <UpuWork> get more returns with them than anyone else
[09:20] <qyx_> UpuWork: yes
[09:20] <qyx_> wut? lol
[09:20] <UpuWork> yes you can translate or yes GLS are crap ? :)
[09:22] <Vaizki> I can't translate but can confirm that GLS is crap
[09:22] <qyx_> "prosím doru ie" is "delivery it pls"
[09:22] <UpuWork> lol
[09:22] <UpuWork> using google translate ?
[09:22] <qyx_> *deliver
[09:23] <qyx_> no
[09:23] <UpuWork> oh
[09:23] <qyx_> but it translates the same :P https://translate.google.com/#sk/en/pros%C3%ADm%2C%20doru%C4%8Di%C5%A5
[09:23] <UpuWork> see pm :)
[09:25] <gonzo_> looks more like latin!
[09:28] <qyx_> usually there are no problems with gls/ups/tnt/anything
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[09:32] <infaddict> morning all
[09:33] <Vaizki> well last time someone used GLS to send something to me here in Finland, GLS just dumped it to our postal service at the port of arrival for final delivery.. so it took like 2 weeks to get a package from the UK "via courier"
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[09:36] <murb> Vaizki: GLS are owed by Royalmail iirc, so normal parcels sent by the uk post turn up with a man in a van if you're lucky.
[09:37] <Vaizki> yea I know they are part of RM
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[10:37] <chris_99> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/30/worlds-largest-aircraft-looking-for-investors-to-give-it-liftoff
[10:54] <cm13g09> chris_99: I'm not sure that idea will ever take off.....
[10:54] <chris_99> i'm curious how high it could go
[10:55] <craag> Would be fun flying it today I bet
[10:56] <daveake> I've seen a few things flying here
[10:56] <daveake> a trampoline ... the felt on my shed ....
[10:56] <cm13g09> daveake: OUCH
[10:56] <daveake> not my trampoline :)
[10:56] <cm13g09> I've had part of the block of flats take off.....
[10:57] <daveake> ouch
[10:57] <cm13g09> nothing structural, we think
[10:57] <daveake> I'm just impressed that the roof itself is still in place
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[10:58] <mattbrejza> been pretty bad down here too
[10:58] <mattbrejza> wheely bins everywhere...
[10:58] <cm13g09> mattbrejza: that's just normal Southampton :P
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[10:58] <craag> sounds like portswood ;)
[10:59] <mattbrejza> but its not term time
[10:59] <cm13g09> craag: exactly
[10:59] <mattbrejza> must have been the wind
[10:59] <craag> hmm fair
[10:59] <daveake> The BBC had a similar (but larger) log cabin to mine
[10:59] <daveake> and this is what happened to it http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/625/media/images/80157000/jpg/_80157856_winterwatch.jpg
[11:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> But they have got rid of Clarkson now!
[11:00] <daveake> I guess they didn't bother putting in the braces to keep the roof down :/
[11:01] <cm13g09> whoops!
[11:14] Nick change: Crashjuh|Away -> Crashbone|Away
[11:22] <gonzo_> if clarkson were still about, it would have to have a caravan or 911 dropped thorugh it
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[11:55] <infaddict> is this the right type of braided nylon cord (1.5mm) for HAB applications? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150-Meter-Roll-Premium-Quality-1-5mm-NYLON-Cord-SHAMBALLA-Jewellery-Making-/181114553821?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item2a2b44c5dd
[11:56] <Vaizki> are you launching from jamaica then..? :)
[11:57] <infaddict> not sure what you mean Vaizki?!
[11:57] <Vaizki> oh those colors...
[11:58] <infaddict> lol, yep some bright ones. i want red/orange so nice and bright.
[11:58] <infaddict> but zooming in it seems like standard braided nylon cord.
[11:58] <infaddict> i've seen others use similarly bright coloured types
[12:08] <Vaizki> infaddict, yea just messing with you.. and yes I did get my sdrplay.. somewhat mixed feelings about it
[12:08] <infaddict> ah really
[12:08] <Vaizki> I need to give it a few more days of mucking about to form any kind of real opinion
[12:09] <infaddict> sure
[12:10] <Vaizki> but if you are not interested in the HAM bands at HF, my initial reaction is that airspy is worth the premium
[12:11] <craag> how does the airspy measure up with fcdpp apart from bandwidth?
[12:11] <Vaizki> well I don't have a FCD-anything
[12:12] <craag> ok
[12:12] <daveake> I have looked at the airspy vs old fcd
[12:12] <Vaizki> sdrplay is apparently much like FCD with mirics + filter banks
[12:12] <daveake> Ran 2 trackers and with the fcd I got lots of intermodulation products
[12:12] <daveake> airspy was clean as a whistle
[12:12] <infaddict> interesting daveake
[12:12] <mattbrejza> old fcd is just a e4k tv tuner though
[12:12] <daveake> not tried the fcd pro + yet
[12:12] <Vaizki> while airspy uses R820T2, tracking filters and oversampling dac
[12:13] <infaddict> mmm we need an updated FCDP+ vs AirSpy vs SDRplay shootout!
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[12:16] <Vaizki> I did find fiddling with the SDRplay gain controls etc more straightforward than with Airspy but it's just a matter of learning the knobs
[12:17] <Vaizki> so now I have 4x SDRs connected to my pc at home.. I guess I need a 4-way power splitter and LNA in front :)
[12:18] <Ian_> daveake , I'm sure that Upu probably has, maybe had, a FCD Pro + and that you are likely to see him from time to time, so maybe a short loan for comparison purposes might be a good idea; if you have the time.
[12:18] <UpuWork> I have FCD Pro+
[12:18] <UpuWork> BladeRF
[12:18] <UpuWork> and Airspy
[12:19] <mattbrejza> gotta catch 'em all!
[12:19] <UpuWork> I only use the FCD for testing now...
[12:19] <Ian_> I believe that the FCD pro + is a significant improvement over the original FCD
[12:19] <Ian_> Tnx Upu, you could maybe just tell daveake how much of an improvement it is. saving time and all the rest :)
[12:19] <Vaizki> I think sdrplay and FCDpro+ share a lot of components
[12:20] <UpuWork> I never got on with the FCD Pro+
[12:20] <UpuWork> the original with a habamp was better
[12:20] <Ian_> Ha, that tells me then . . .
[12:20] <UpuWork> Airspy is very nice for the moment
[12:21] <UpuWork> s/moment/money
[12:22] <Vaizki> airspy also has all kinds of rf ins, outs, gpio and unutilized cortex m0 cores etc with the firmware on github.. I guess if you wanted to do something special on the radio itself it would be a good platform for that
[12:23] <Vaizki> like I was thinking of that multilateration.. taking a GPS pps signal input and accurately tagging samples should be doable on the airspy itself
[12:23] <infaddict> Sounds like Airspy has a lot of fans. Be interesting to see this "cut price" version they are planning Q4.
[12:23] <Vaizki> but of course 99% of users will not need that kind of flexibility
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[12:27] <Vaizki> and yes it will be interesting to see what the $99 airspy lite can do
[12:29] <daveake> Ian+ I have the Pro+ too
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[12:40] <Laurenceb> http://noflyzano.com/
[12:43] <mattbrejza> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/torquing/zano-autonomous-intelligent-swarming-nano-drone/comments
[12:44] <mattbrejza> 'To find the best mix of power efficiency for the digital electronics and performance, the digital supply rail voltage has been adjusted. This change requires a voltage sensing array update to better accommodate the battery voltage sensing'
[12:44] <mattbrejza> wut
[12:44] <daveake> many words little meaning
[12:46] <mattbrejza> so it weighs about 4x that of other similar sized quads
[12:51] <Vaizki> I felt like choking just reading the first few updates :O
[12:51] <Vaizki> sorry comments
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[13:02] <Bobsaget> hey UpuWork: what is the news with a new adsb preamp?
[13:02] <UpuWork> at the PCB fab
[13:02] <UpuWork> 2 designs
[13:02] <UpuWork> one has 2 amps in it
[13:02] <UpuWork> going to use a SAW with more insertion loss but with better cut off
[13:03] <UpuWork> so its amp -> saw -> amp
[13:03] <UpuWork> so should have more gain over existing amp and better attenuation
[13:04] <UpuWork> then there is a "pro" version
[13:04] <UpuWork> which uses a very expensive minicircuits bandpass filter and 2 amps
[13:05] <adamgreig> could you do a 70cm power amp? :P
[13:05] <Bobsaget> ok what is the cost on the two? when do you expect to roll them out?
[13:06] <adamgreig> all this receive is great but what about when i need a bit more than 10mW
[13:06] <UpuWork> sure you are more than capable adamgreig :)
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[13:06] <daveake> Get one of those minicircuits PAs
[13:07] <UpuWork> http://www.minikits.com.au/electronic-kits/rf-amplifiers/rf-high-power/70cm-7W-Amplifier
[13:07] <adamgreig> somewhat more niche market I guess
[13:07] <daveake> minikits then :/
[13:07] <adamgreig> is that with the mitsibishi thing
[13:07] <UpuWork> No idea yet Bobsaget
[13:07] <adamgreig> ah yes
[13:07] <adamgreig> they're nice
[13:07] <daveake> yes Motorola
[13:07] <Bobsaget> cool thanks, i'll be watching
[13:07] <UpuWork> the Pro version will be at least double the price of the existing one
[13:07] <Bobsaget> let me know if you need somebody to knock heads in SZ
[13:07] <Bobsaget> i live across the bay
[13:08] <UpuWork> sz ?
[13:08] <Bobsaget> shenzhen, guessing you get your components from there?
[13:08] <UpuWork> http://www.w6pql.com/500w_70cm_amplifier.htm
[13:08] <UpuWork> Oh
[13:08] <UpuWork> nope
[13:08] <UpuWork> Farnell a country just outside Leeds
[13:08] <Bobsaget> ohh but they get them from here
[13:08] <UpuWork> probably
[13:09] <UpuWork> Minicircuits don't use distributors
[13:09] <Bobsaget> i have a contact that might can source them cheaper, his english isn't great
[13:09] <Bobsaget> ok
[13:09] <UpuWork> so the MMIC amp and the filter I can only get from them
[13:09] <UpuWork> the case is Hammond
[13:09] <UpuWork> reminds me
[13:09] <UpuWork> need to speak to them about getting some with holes pre drilled
[13:09] <adamgreig> 500W is more like it
[13:10] <adamgreig> just need a couple of those ;)
[13:10] <UpuWork> what are you cooking adamgreig ?
[13:10] <UpuWork> literally
[13:11] <adamgreig> nothing really, just want some options that aren't the weird AD 0.5W thing I put on m2r
[13:11] <adamgreig> the 7W minicircuits kit would probably be ok :P
[13:12] <UpuWork> I have one here actually not used it
[13:13] <adamgreig> did you ever get around to trying it out / sourcing heatsinks etc?
[13:13] <UpuWork> nah just stick it in a hammond case with some CPU heat sink compound on it
[13:13] <adamgreig> really I should get my amp circuit on the specan and see what it's like, never had the time last year
[13:13] <adamgreig> nice, that works pretty well I guess
[13:13] <UpuWork> only intended to use it for brief transmissions
[13:13] <UpuWork> "cut down"
[13:13] <UpuWork> "no really cut down"
[13:14] <adamgreig> lol
[13:14] <daveake> "sudo cutdown"
[13:15] <adamgreig> "cutdown -f"
[13:15] <UpuWork> lol
[13:16] <daveake> This is the one I did http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=1693
[13:16] <infaddict> lol Upu: "Farnell a country just outside Leeds"
[13:16] <infaddict> country/company ?
[13:16] <UpuWork> country :)
[13:16] <adamgreig> daveake: ah cool, did that work well?
[13:16] <daveake> Not used in flight yet :/
[13:16] <daveake> But yes it was working.
[13:16] <adamgreig> how do you split it for tx/rx?
[13:16] <daveake> Tx only
[13:17] <adamgreig> ah ok
[13:17] <adamgreig> separate modem for rx or something?
[13:17] <daveake> Transmissions are timed by GPS
[13:17] <daveake> Yes
[13:17] <UpuWork> so cheap why not
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[13:17] <daveake> indeed
[13:17] <adamgreig> probably easier than trying to set up an rf switch :P
[13:17] <daveake> I thought so yes :)
[13:17] <infaddict> very nice daveake
[13:18] <adamgreig> minikits kit alright then?
[13:18] <UpuWork> get your bits Tim ?
[13:18] <daveake> The second aerial is for a local link
[13:18] <infaddict> PC software written in C++ ?
[13:18] <UpuWork> yes
[13:18] <infaddict> yep thx UpuWork
[13:18] <UpuWork> they are kits
[13:18] <daveake> So I can put that outside
[13:18] <UpuWork> you have to make them
[13:18] <UpuWork> but otherwise nice
[13:18] <daveake> and command a cutdown from inside
[13:18] <daveake> I think Matt did well using a 10mW uplink last week
[13:18] <UpuWork> want to borrow one Adam ?
[13:19] <UpuWork> its in a case
[13:19] <UpuWork> and never tested
[13:19] <UpuWork> good luck
[13:19] <adamgreig> haha
[13:19] <adamgreig> hmm
[13:19] <adamgreig> this is for the remote end of the radio link so there's good odds it will embed itself into an american desert and never be seen again
[13:20] <UpuWork> ok
[13:20] <Flerb_> I took my scanner with me to NYC - their police radio was a lot less interesting than I'd have thought
[13:20] <adamgreig> they're still not encrypted?
[13:20] <Flerb_> Just car accidents and stuff.
[13:20] <Flerb_> I assumed it was police.
[13:20] <Flerb_> May well have just been security
[13:21] <Flerb_> It was a pretty cool trip - the smithsonian aerospace is amazing
[13:22] <adamgreig> UpuWork: thanks for the offer but I'll probably just buy one so I can not worry too much about brutally hacking it up ;)
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[13:23] Action: cm13g09 has a fun challenge, and I think you guys have solved it.... Need to somehow manage, using ISM, to get 9600 8N1 coverage over 500 acres of land....
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[13:25] <infaddict> UpuWork: thx for help with PCB checking (and everybody else who did)... passed the PCB house checks and in production now!
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[13:26] <UpuWork> who did you get it made with ?
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[13:32] <infaddict> hackvana
[13:32] <UpuWork> ah cool
[13:32] <infaddict> should arrive 8-10 days Mitch reckons
[13:32] <infaddict> slowly coming together ;-)
[13:34] <UpuWork> hk post ?
[13:34] <infaddict> yer whatever his recommended one was - not the slowest one
[13:34] <infaddict> HK registered?
[13:36] <UpuWork> yeah
[13:36] <UpuWork> 10-14 days
[13:36] <UpuWork> usually
[13:36] <infaddict> ok cool, i have tons of other stuff to get on with first. building payload box and antenna.
[13:39] <infaddict> rather worried it wont work when i solder it all together haha! part of the fun ;-)
[13:39] <UpuWork> well you're welcome to come down here
[13:41] <infaddict> sure thx, defo want to gatecrash at least 1 other launch before i do my own!
[13:41] <UpuWork> well I meant soldering
[13:42] <infaddict> ah right sry. hoping that will be ok, nothing smaller than 2.54mm headers really. still that unknown factor whether it will work!
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[13:43] <infaddict> at the very least i have 10 green coffee coasters ;-)
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[13:51] <UpuWork> I have 2 tubs of multicoloured coasters
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[13:56] <infaddict> lol UpuWork
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[14:20] <pc1pcl> infaddict: just make sure you have some blue/bodge wire ready to fix up the coasters.
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[15:23] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[15:55] <Laurenceb> anyone here any good with matlab?
[15:56] <qyx_> you
[15:56] <Laurenceb> lol
[15:56] <Laurenceb> no im failing
[15:56] <Laurenceb> weighted_accel_z=trace((z_vibration.*repmat((w_k.^2)',1,3))*z_vibration');
[15:56] <Laurenceb> error: acceightmetric: operator *: nonconformant arguments (op1 is 500x3, op2 is 1x500)
[15:56] <Laurenceb> WTF
[15:56] <Laurenceb> w_k is 500 by 1, z_vibration is 500 by 3
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[16:01] <mattbrejza> everyone take a look at google maps
[16:02] <mattbrejza> Laurenceb: just do it on mulitple lines and see what sizes everything is at each stage
[16:02] <Laurenceb> yeah thats what im doing now
[16:04] <Laurenceb> doh - error was on another line :P
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[16:19] <arjunaha> ping daveake
[16:19] <daveake> pung
[16:20] <arjunaha> Forgive me for being stakerish, but in which part of berkshire do you reside in. Just watching a few youtube videos and saw the kingsley one
[16:21] <daveake> None of the above
[16:21] <daveake> We moved
[16:21] <arjunaha> Ah, okay :)
[16:22] <edmoore> restraining order averted
[16:22] <arjunaha> Just though you could help us with our school launch
[16:22] <arjunaha> edmoore only just
[16:23] <daveake> sadly/luckily we move a fair distance away :)
[16:23] <daveake> moved
[16:23] <edmoore> where in berkshire are you arjunaha ?
[16:23] <arjunaha> Reading
[16:24] <craag> arjunaha: Might be worth talking to http://susf.co.uk/
[16:24] <craag> disclaimer: That's me on the far left in the photo :)
[16:25] <arjunaha> susf is probably a good hour or so from reading
[16:25] <arjunaha> craag: ;-)
[16:25] <edmoore> small by hab standards
[16:25] <craag> We were up in the peak district for a launch the other week ;)
[16:25] <craag> *schoo launch
[16:25] <craag> *school launch even
[16:25] <cm13g09> ah craag
[16:25] <cm13g09> possibly the man I need
[16:25] Action: craag runs
[16:25] <arjunaha> Nice
[16:26] <arjunaha> by any chance, do you know The Forest School
[16:26] <arjunaha> ?
[16:26] <craag> Not off the top of my head
[16:27] <edmoore> forest and forelaxation
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[16:28] <arjunaha> so you're resposible for Majora
[16:28] <craag> yep :)
[16:28] <craag> soldered it myself :D
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[16:29] <arjunaha> Was showing my friends at school that, on the projector and pointed out Olaf will be tracked by an international tracker network
[16:29] <arjunaha> That got them listening
[16:30] <craag> Gotta dash - drop an email to contact@ and we'll see if we can help you out :)
[16:30] <craag> Cool!
[16:30] <arjunaha> great thxx
[16:30] <arjunaha> ;-)
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[17:37] <amell> Just seen the Teensy-LC board, looks quite good for hab projects.
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[18:47] <prog> hi Upu
[18:51] <Upu> hey prog
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[18:57] <Lunar_Lander> Venus quite high in the western sky here
[18:57] <Lunar_Lander> very nice
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[19:04] <SpeedEvil> For anyone in the south of england, with an absolutely unobstructed south view - you may be able still to see the Nova in sagitarius
[19:05] <SpeedEvil> It's still around magnitude 5 - naked eye and easy in binocs
[19:05] <SpeedEvil> but the sun gets in the way
[19:11] <edmoore> there was a nova?
[19:11] <edmoore> fun
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[19:14] <SpeedEvil> http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/observing-news/nova-sagittarii-catch-it-while-you-still-can/
[19:14] <SpeedEvil> It is very, very low in the southern sky at dawn
[19:14] <SpeedEvil> peaking 8 degrees here - but that's after sunrise
[19:14] <SpeedEvil> But I am at 56N
[19:15] <mattbrejza> oh dawn
[19:15] <mattbrejza> not now...
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[19:20] <Ian_> craag , far left redefined? edmoore, small by HAB standards? I believe that craag is standard sized by HAB standards :) Even slightly elusive, by earlier definition.
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[19:31] <SpeedEvil> Small by HAB definitions is surely to be completely enclosed by a 2m sphere
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[19:45] <Ian_> Might just fit inside that
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[20:31] <anerdev> hey guys =D
[20:31] <anerdev> I have this old model of habamp filter ... Is ok how I mounted ? http://imgur.com/POo6ewv
[20:43] <Upu> that is an old one
[20:44] <Upu> should be ok why 2 power sockets ?
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[20:46] <anerdev> on the right is the power jack, on the bottom is the led =D
[20:47] <anerdev> but the left is the IN antenna, the right is OUT antenna ? Is correct ? Upu
[20:48] <Upu> yes
[20:48] <anerdev> ok perfect =D
[20:48] <Vaizki> what's with all the solder?
[20:48] <anerdev> I will buy th new version
[20:48] <anerdev> Vaizki what ?
[20:49] <anerdev> guys but for the habhub is important the time ?
[20:49] <Vaizki> just wondering why so much solder, was it hard to solder the wires on?
[20:49] <anerdev> because I'm having much problems using the time in my Arduino mega
[20:50] <anerdev> Vaizki no no ... Mount and unmounted many time =D now is all clean
[20:50] <Vaizki> ah
[20:50] <anerdev> ;))
[20:51] <anerdev> fetching the time from the GPS ... Ram full. I'm making a method to include the time simple using a counter.
[20:51] <Vaizki> hmmm
[20:51] <daveake> ram full on a mega????
[20:51] <anerdev> The balloon will launch monday or thursday .. but without time is possibile to use the habhub ?
[20:51] <Vaizki> sounds strange?
[20:51] <Vaizki> eep
[20:51] <daveake> that's an achievement
[20:52] <Upu> "kek"
[20:52] <Vaizki> do you want to share source code so we can tell you where you can save 200 bytes? :)
[20:52] <daveake> OK advice time
[20:52] <Vaizki> I'm pretty sure I can find 200 bytes in 5 mins
[20:52] <anerdev> I'm trying to understand if is a ram problem or a GPS library
[20:52] <daveake> If you can't read the GPS time
[20:52] <anerdev> oh Vaiziki one moment =D
[20:52] <daveake> you're unlikely to be ready on Monday
[20:53] <anerdev> because I use sim908 and the library get out the time in a char like this: 20150319171957.000
[20:53] <Vaizki> it beeps, it's in a box, it's ready to fly
[20:53] <daveake> <sarcasm_alert>
[20:53] <anerdev> yes, is all ready ! the only problem is the time
[20:53] <daveake> I hope :)
[20:53] <anerdev> so .. I have this methods: https://gist.github.com/anerDev/b5bf703143ea1d0342e7 and https://gist.github.com/anerDev/0fd1cf27a8d28e68df8a
[20:54] <edmoore> but if time doesn;t work then how does any of the gps parsing work?
[20:54] <anerdev> and work great ! but in my sketch the time value is 0.000000
[20:54] <prog> Upu: did some more tests ?
[20:54] <anerdev> I'm uploading the code
[20:54] <daveake> softwareserial on a mega ????
[20:54] <daveake> why oh why?
[20:54] <Vaizki> ayeegh
[20:54] <Upu> none prog sorry my internet provider killed my connection (hence 3G atm)
[20:54] <daveake> you've got 4 real hardware ports
[20:54] <Upu> and been busy sorting other stuff
[20:54] <prog> zw
[20:54] <prog> ew
[20:55] <Upu> as soon as there is a launch
[20:55] Nick change: fl_0 -> fl_0|afk
[20:55] <Upu> http://i.imgur.com/6u9wsYE.gif
[20:56] <prog> get your internet problems solved first
[20:57] <Vaizki> anerdev: well this is a bit more than I expected...
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[20:57] <prog> Upu: we will need your IQ files
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[20:58] <edmoore> it's a bit complex
[20:58] <Upu> my IQ files ? :)
[20:58] <mattbrejza> well avr-size will tell you how much ram is statically allocated
[20:58] <Vaizki> anerdev: I'm not sure it's doing you any favors to use all those libraries
[20:58] <arko> edmoore: lol
[20:59] <mattbrejza> but serial.println("BLAAA") will take up 6 bytes for a start
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[20:59] <anerdev> There is the sketch: http://pastebin.com/zNJF5GhZ
[20:59] <edmoore> does arduino let you do the progmem stuff?
[20:59] <Vaizki> edmoore: yes
[20:59] <Upu> yes
[21:00] <daveake> anerdev in that 2nd sketch above you have no protection against buffer overflow in inSerial
[21:00] <anerdev> daveake I will delete all serial
[21:00] <anerdev> I don't need ... I'm using now for debug
[21:01] <Vaizki> dht22, sd card, rtty, gps, gsm...
[21:02] <anerdev> Vaizki yep :// but all work perfect ! the problem is only the time char !
[21:02] <daveake> all serial?
[21:02] <daveake> bit drastic
[21:02] <anerdev> no, only via rtty
[21:02] <Vaizki> anerdev: you don't need to parse the time. just send the string you get.
[21:02] <anerdev> the serial I'm using now for debug, for understanding where is the problem whit time value
[21:02] <anerdev> Vaizki ?!?
[21:03] <anerdev> $$A1,15254,15:36:34,52.145255,000.542061,00118,0000,03,3F4D3F2F,45*62
[21:03] <anerdev> isn't this the correct string ?
[21:03] <anerdev> this is in the format 15:36:34
[21:03] <Vaizki> well it's one form of a good string
[21:03] <Vaizki> and ok what's with all the rtty_txstring() calls?!
[21:04] <anerdev> I don't understand :/ Can you repeat please ?
[21:04] <Vaizki> ok ok I get it now.. well that's "novel"..
[21:05] <Vaizki> but it's making my head hurt...
[21:05] <anerdev> I'm a novel =D
[21:06] <Vaizki> why do you call rtty_txstring() in setup() at all?
[21:06] <Vaizki> it makes no sense
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[21:07] <Vaizki> well you can save your 200 bytes by commenting out all the Serial.print debug stuff :)
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[21:08] <anerdev> Vaizki I follow the tutorial on the wiki for use the rtty ... And it wasn't in the setup the instruction set
[21:08] <Vaizki> or a little less by moving static strings to progmem.. but your code.. it's very very complicated considering what you are doing
[21:08] <anerdev> complicated in what sense ?
[21:09] <anerdev> tomorrow I will test another method for understand where is the problem. Tomorrow night I will repost the new code
[21:09] <anerdev> so ... If I can't use the time, I will not use the habhub ://
[21:09] <mattbrejza> it might work, have you tried it?
[21:10] <Vaizki> it works without time field
[21:10] <Vaizki> I tried it
[21:10] <Vaizki> but I don't recommend it
[21:10] <anerdev> ok ok
[21:10] <Vaizki> actually I think the habhub was patched to support "no time" better after my tests..
[21:11] <anerdev> but for monday I will can use my balloon without time ? =D
[21:11] <anerdev> Is great !
[21:11] <Vaizki> eeeeeeeek
[21:11] Action: Vaizki hides
[21:11] <anerdev> what's eeeeeeeek ?! ahuahu
[21:11] <anerdev> eeeeeeeek
[21:12] <Vaizki> I'm just happy you're not launching a 10kg shuttle that's what
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[21:12] <anerdev> LOOOOOL
[21:12] <daveake> I hope he comes back
[21:12] <daveake> Need to have a word
[21:12] <anerdev> daveake you think that all doesn't will work ? :/ I will lost my balloon ?
[21:12] <Vaizki> upu, mr AGM or anerdev?
[21:13] <daveake> anerdev If you cannot get time added then I fear you are not as ready as you think you are
[21:13] <daveake> but I was talking about someone else
[21:13] <Vaizki> ah it was ICARUS not AGM...
[21:14] <anerdev> daveake I'm not ready at 100% ... But only for the time problem ! Because all other part of the software work
[21:14] <daveake> yes
[21:14] <anerdev> (in my house) hihih
[21:14] <Vaizki> are you on drugs?
[21:14] <daveake> one wonders what's in the mind of someone who makes a "shuttle" (not sure what that really means) from metal and hard things and weighing 10kg+
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[21:15] <edmoore> well let's not dismiss that as insane in an absolute sense...
[21:15] <edmoore> just depends on who's doing it :)
[21:15] <anerdev> but tomorrow morning I will clean my code ... and debug debug debug ... If I don't found a way, I will launch the balloon, but for tracking I will not use the habhub
[21:15] <anerdev> Vaizki nope =D
[21:15] <anerdev> I'm crazy, I'm normal lol
[21:15] <Vaizki> if you send out coords, use habhub
[21:16] <Vaizki> simple as that
[21:16] <anerdev> the coords work great
[21:16] <anerdev> but int he wiki there is write that I need time ... But if I can use habhub without time, great
[21:16] <Vaizki> just send whatever you get from GPS, as is
[21:17] <Vaizki> it's better than nothing
[21:17] <anerdev> oh yeah ...
[21:17] <anerdev> thank you guys ...
[21:17] <anerdev> Tomorrow I will work hard on the code. Meet tomorrow night for a briefing =D (if is not a disturb for you)
[21:18] <Vaizki> I will premedicate
[21:18] <anerdev> )
[21:18] <anerdev> :)
[21:18] <anerdev> thank you
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[21:37] <Ian_> Vaizki :) with the sort of winds we have had just recently the horizontal motion of 10kg of anything remotely solid would be enough to scare the socks anyone downwind of it
[21:39] <Vaizki> well this guy was sending his shuttle to 100000 feet
[21:40] <Vaizki> so I'm sure horizontal movement will be augmented by a bit of vertical...
[21:42] <Ian_> Conceptual nightmare
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[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[23:53] <fxmulder_> so is there any reason to think that simulating the launch of a rocket with no fins 0 degrees vertical in a 0 wind environment would go unstable?
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