highaltitude.log.20150323

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[06:19] <Upu> !dial D-7
[06:19] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[06:19] <Upu> !flights
[06:19] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Current flights: 03M2 10(af9c), 03EDUPICDX2 10(4830)
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[06:23] <DL7AD> morning
[06:23] <Upu> What is D-7's frequency ?
[06:23] <Upu> morning
[06:23] <DL7AD> 434.500
[06:24] <Upu> continious ?
[06:24] <DL7AD> beeping every 5 seconds
[06:24] <Vaizki> morning
[06:24] <DL7AD> one cycle domex+cw every ~4mins
[06:24] <Upu> position is wrong ?
[06:24] <Vaizki> nice coding on D-7.. :)
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[06:41] <tweetBot> @daveake: Second interview from BBC Stargazing https://t.co/ybvgAD0AWc #UKHAS
[06:42] <tweetBot> @daveake: Final interview from BBC Stargazing https://t.co/DhQLRbYn4C #UKHAS
[06:45] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
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[07:11] <Maxell> lol @ D-7 GPS fix/plotting/0-padding issue
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[07:29] <DL7AD> okay herer i am again. there were workers in my flat so i was forced to switch off my internet router
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[07:37] <Vaizki> I don't see the connection but welcome back :)
[07:38] <DL7AD> !flight D-7
[07:38] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[07:38] <DL7AD> !payload D-7
[07:38] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[07:39] <DL7AD> Upu: why is there no frequency displayed for D-7?
[07:39] <DL7AD> i thought i've set it in the system
[07:41] <mfa298> looking at #habhub scrollback I think D-7 expired at midnight
[07:41] <mfa298> *D-7 flightdoc
[07:48] <Vaizki> so D-7 code is not handling leading zeros in the fraction part of lat/long, instead it's just dropping them?
[07:48] <Vaizki> and that's why it's jumping around?
[07:49] <Vaizki> "$$D-7,135,19:23:25,50.1026,6.6302,6947,6,1374*A70D","PE2G,DK6WX",135,19:23:25,50.1026,6.6302,6947,6,1374
[07:49] <Vaizki> "$$D-7,136,19:27:35,50.982,6.5669,6932,5,1368*6AA4","F0EQE,DK6WX,PE2G,PB0NER",136,19:27:35,50.982,6.5669,6932,5,1368
[07:50] <Vaizki> jumped from 50.1026 to 50.982 .. should be 50.0982 I guess?
[07:50] <DL7AD> Vaizki: ops....
[07:50] <DL7AD> yes
[07:50] <DL7AD> i thought ive fixed that
[07:50] <Vaizki> oh it's yours :)
[07:50] <DL7AD> yes
[07:51] <Vaizki> well at least the physics seems to be working for you, congrats
[07:51] <DL7AD> :D yeah
[07:51] <Vaizki> you can also fix this issue with a hotfix filter on habhub
[07:51] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_001.jpg
[07:51] <DL7AD> *shrug*
[07:52] <Vaizki> I'm not sure how to add one, probably needs an admin to fix it
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_002.jpg
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_003.jpg
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_004.jpg
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_005.jpg
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_006.jpg
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_007.jpg
[07:52] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_008.jpg
[07:52] <Vaizki> eep
[07:52] <Vaizki> is that a supercap?
[07:52] <DL7AD> no thats the battery
[07:52] <DL7AD> AA lithium
[07:52] <Vaizki> ah ok
[07:52] <Vaizki> so no solar?
[07:53] <DL7AD> nope....
[07:53] <DL7AD> the next will be probably
[07:53] <DL7AD> ive done a new design
[07:53] <DL7AD> but this is my smallest design which i already brought to the ukhas conference last year
[07:55] <Vaizki> what's the expected runtime?
[07:57] <DL7AD> Vaizki: never tested
[07:57] <DL7AD> but i think at least 2 days
[07:59] <DL7AD> Vaizki: can you receive it?
[07:59] <Vaizki> no, I am in Finland
[07:59] <DL7AD> it will probably pass there
[08:00] <Vaizki> yes, that's why I was asking
[08:00] <Vaizki> looking at the hysplit
[08:01] <Vaizki> your coordinate handling code is screwed, mate
[08:01] <Vaizki> now it's messed up the longitude handling.. :P
[08:04] <Vaizki> it's showing changes at 0.0001 degree level only, which is about 70cm on that latitude
[08:05] <DL7AD> Vaizki: from now on or also in the past?
[08:06] <Vaizki> something weird from 03:31 onwards
[08:06] <Vaizki> http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/ept/_list/csv/payload_telemetry/payload_time?include_docs=true&startkey=[%2201dec8a80c4d83b83097f49cff431a4a%22]&endkey=[%2201dec8a80c4d83b83097f49cff431a4a%22,[]]&fields=_sentence,_receivers,sentence_id,time,latitude,longitude,altitude,satellites,battery
[08:06] <Vaizki> check that
[08:07] <Vaizki> your lat/lon are normally with 4 decimal place precision
[08:07] <Vaizki> but suddenly it jumps to 7 decimal places on longitude
[08:07] <DL7AD> oh..... will check that
[08:08] <Vaizki> and then flipped instantly from +0.714 to -1.715
[08:08] <DL7AD> oh there must be something wrong
[08:08] <DL7AD> i will upload my code later in the evening on github
[08:08] <Vaizki> yes, your real longitude is hidden in those last 4 decimal places I suspect
[08:09] <Vaizki> and the 71 in front is an artifact
[08:09] <Vaizki> did you test it with negative longitude?
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[08:10] <DL7AD> Vaizki: partially
[08:12] <DL7AD> means some parts were tested but the conversion in the snprintf wasnt tested
[08:14] <Vaizki> well I think you have 2 bugs to hunt down...
[08:15] <Vaizki> I think in reality you are further west than the tracker shows
[08:16] <Vaizki> sorry no I mean west
[08:16] <DL7AD> what about the CW?
[08:16] <Vaizki> close to zero meridian
[08:16] <DL7AD> what locator does the CW tell?
[08:16] <Vaizki> what Mhz is the CW on?
[08:17] <DL7AD> it should be on 434.500 MHz
[08:17] <DL7AD> but possibly also on 432.09
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[08:19] <DL7AD> i was told the CW should be 3khz off
[08:19] <DL7AD> its regulary send right after domino was sent
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[08:20] <DL7AD> hi edmoore
[08:20] <Vaizki> so what is it sending there?
[08:20] <edmoore> yoyo DL7AD
[08:21] <Vaizki> 432.09 isn't in the ISM band even?
[08:21] <DL7AD> no it isnt
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[08:21] <DL7AD> D-7 is supposed to switch the CW from 432.09 to 434.500 in UK
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[08:25] <Vaizki> maybe you should modify your flight doc for +2 days and get it reapproved...
[08:26] <Vaizki> is that "beep" yours?
[08:26] <DL7AD> well not mine but the balloon's
[08:26] <Vaizki> :)
[08:27] <DL7AD> in other words: yes
[08:28] <Vaizki> I hear a very intermittent beep on 434.500
[08:28] <Vaizki> looking at SUWS web sdr
[08:29] <Vaizki> might be a very feint MFSK in there..
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[08:31] <pc1pcl> Vaizki: the dominoex is only sent out every 4 minutes or so, then beeps every 5 seconds.
[08:31] <Vaizki> and you said cw? you are morse'ing out a maidenhead locator?
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[08:33] <pc1pcl> on the radiogeek sdr just saw the dominoex come by, don't think there was any CW at 434.50x though.
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[08:35] <Vaizki> well unless someone reverse engineers the bug from the sentences we don't even know the real longitude of the balloon :)
[08:35] <pc1pcl> I htink there are beeps just above 432.09 though, so going to see if there's any CW there in a bit.
[08:36] <Vaizki> yea there's beeps there
[08:36] <sa6bss-mobile> Was listning on suws before I left for work and there was no cw, Its a bit high in freq, got it on 434.503
[08:37] <Vaizki> 432.094 is beeping
[08:37] <Vaizki> 432.093 even
[08:37] <sa6bss-mobile> :)
[08:37] <Vaizki> and there's cw
[08:38] <pc1pcl> yup, cw seen on wf, didn't bother to try and decode though
[08:38] <Vaizki> Q S L D L 7 A T E
[08:39] <pc1pcl> TE probably should have been D
[08:39] <Vaizki> yea
[08:39] <Vaizki> I suck at CW .. :)
[08:40] <pc1pcl> so do I.
[08:40] <sa6bss-mobile> I just let dl-fldigi decode it, Its good on cw
[08:42] <DL7AD> what does the CW tell where it is? it tells the locator right after the "BALLOON D7"
[08:43] <Vaizki> what kind of wpm is it running at?
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[08:44] <DL7AD> ~18
[08:44] <DL7AD> not sure anymore
[08:45] <DL7AD> 18-20
[08:45] <Vaizki> IO92KE is what I got
[08:46] <Vaizki> which would be almost right above horthampton
[08:46] <Vaizki> northampton
[08:46] <DL7AD> yes
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[08:47] <Vaizki> * A L L O O N D 7 H O 9 2 K E A L T * 1 3 6 P S E Q S L D L 7 A D
[08:47] <Vaizki> that's what I got with fldigi
[08:47] <Vaizki> so now HO92KE
[08:47] <DL7AD> Vaizki: thanks
[08:47] <DL7AD> IO92KE sound better
[08:47] <Vaizki> hes :)
[08:48] <Vaizki> yes.. your balloon typos as much as I do
[08:48] <DL7AD> :D
[08:49] <DL7AD> im happy about the battery status
[08:49] <DL7AD> its still at 1.45V
[08:49] <DL7AD> almost
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[08:53] <Vaizki> DL7AD, but I am getting this on the radiogeek.co.uk websdr and sending to fldigi.. so you can also track it that way yourself.
[08:55] <Vaizki> IO92LG
[08:55] <pc1pcl> IO92LG according to my phone's cw decoder.
[08:55] <DL7AD> Vaizki: no... i'm currently at work
[08:55] <Vaizki> yea.. so as I suspected, the balloon is closer to meridian than the map shows
[08:56] <Vaizki> if the locator is correct
[08:56] <Vaizki> DL7AD, note for next flight.. put the locator also in the messages ;)
[08:57] <Vaizki> I mean domex
[08:57] <DL7AD> for what reason? (if the error will be fixed)
[08:58] <Vaizki> I like redundancy
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[09:00] <pc1pcl> I O GG 2 L H, GG probably should be 9 so IO92LH
[09:01] <DL7AD> so its already flying a bit eastbout
[09:01] <DL7AD> *eastbound
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[09:03] <Vaizki> hopefully it will recover from the longitude error after going back over the meridian
[09:03] <DL7AD> over the primary yes
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[09:04] <Vaizki> when it crosses into square JO
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[09:12] <LunarWork> morning
[09:13] <DL7AD> LunarWork: hi lunar
[09:14] <infaddict> morning LunarWork
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[09:15] <Vaizki> I am starting to suspect D-7 is an undercover map art project
[09:16] <DL7AD> Vaizki: :D
[09:17] <fsphil> oh nice
[09:17] <fsphil> hey is that heading my way?
[09:17] <DL7AD> no
[09:17] <DL7AD> ~30°
[09:17] <fsphil> nice floater atm in australia
[09:18] <Vaizki> fsphil, it's apparently really in northampton
[09:18] <fsphil> how can you tell? :)
[09:18] <Vaizki> it sends out maidenhead locators on CW
[09:18] <Vaizki> IO92ML just came in
[09:19] <fsphil> ah
[09:19] <fsphil> how'd the coordinates get so wrong
[09:20] <Vaizki> dropping leading zeros from fraction part is one bug...
[09:20] <Vaizki> so 1.0092 becomes 1.92
[09:20] <fsphil> ah the infamous padding bug
[09:20] <fsphil> on a 7th flight
[09:20] <Vaizki> the other one I couldn't reverse engineer
[09:20] <fsphil> weird
[09:21] <fsphil> it also has the negative bug
[09:21] <fsphil> looking at the raw telemetry
[09:21] <Vaizki> but basically it used to send out longitudes with 4 decimal places, now it's sending 7
[09:21] <fsphil> where -0.5 comes out as 0.5
[09:21] <Vaizki> yea some form of it
[09:21] <Vaizki> ah so -1.5 becomes -1 + 0.5 = -0.5?
[09:22] <DL7AD> fsphil: it's a completely new software
[09:22] <DL7AD> it has been made from scratch this time
[09:22] <fsphil> it's over Corby
[09:22] <DL7AD> because its the first time i fly an ARM M0+ cortex
[09:22] <Vaizki> next time send it to finland, we don't have pesky prime meridians
[09:23] <fsphil> 52.5077, -0.7148
[09:23] <Vaizki> fsphil, I suspect the 0.715 is some form of artifact
[09:23] <Vaizki> because it has been going on -1.715 or +0.715 for ages
[09:23] <fsphil> oooh yes I see that
[09:24] <Vaizki> so it's some kind of negative longitude bug
[09:24] <fsphil> after string 243
[09:24] <fsphil> goes from 0.3225 to 0.7158187
[09:24] <Vaizki> yup
[09:24] <g0hww> B A L L O O N D 7 I O 9 2 M N A L T 7 1 8 3 P S E Q S L D L 7 A D
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[09:27] <fsphil> that's an interesting bug
[09:27] <Vaizki> yes and should prove educational
[09:28] <gonzo_> I thought it was doing an etch-a-sketch
[09:28] <gonzo_> btw, what's the d7 freq?
[09:28] <Vaizki> 432.093 for the CW
[09:29] <Vaizki> 434.500 for the domex
[09:29] <g0hww> is there an RSID with the DOMEX22 ?
[09:30] <fsphil> still seems to be near corby
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[09:30] <fsphil> does that agree with the CW?
[09:30] <gonzo_> ta
[09:30] <fsphil> tsk tsk, doing amateur radio in UK airspace
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[09:31] <Vaizki> let me catch a cw for you...
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[09:32] <Vaizki> here it comes
[09:32] <daveake> Same bug in latitude, or a different one?
[09:32] <fsphil> different
[09:32] <g0hww> i got IO92MN which is just NW of Corby
[09:32] <daveake> nice
[09:32] <fsphil> it seems to be a constant offset
[09:32] <pc1pcl> g0hww: no RSID, just 5 sec beeps just off the center frequency.
[09:33] <g0hww> i can hear the domex well, but haven't managed a decode yet even though i seem to tuned roughly right. i guess the CW is of more use though
[09:33] <pc1pcl> g0hww: DomEx22, need to tick 'Rv' in dlfldigi.
[09:33] <Vaizki> IO92NP I got but P is probably off
[09:33] <fsphil> the part after the decimal point seems to be about +7154962
[09:33] <g0hww> pc1pcl, thanks for the RV tip
[09:34] <Vaizki> well maybe IO92NP is correct
[09:35] <gonzo_> how often is the domino?
[09:35] <tweetBot> @G7IGB: Southampton Eclipse Balloon: The Southampton University Spaceflight Society have posted... http://t.co/WmcF2qHSTV #hamradio #ukhas
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[09:35] <Vaizki> I used to do CW by ear but that was in the navy 24 years ago anad have not listened to cw since then
[09:36] <number10> happy birthday daveake
[09:36] <g0hww> my brain just shrugs when i ask it to do CW now
[09:36] <gonzo_> don't break your good record!
[09:36] <pc1pcl> g0hww (I tried switching to LSB too, but that didn't work, I guess fldigi via rigcontrol noticed and also did a reverse, so need that 'Rv' setting)
[09:36] <g0hww> green decode that time :)
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[09:37] <pc1pcl> g0hww: nice,but as you said, the cw is probably more useful at the moment.
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[09:37] <pc1pcl> gonzo_: every 4 minutes or so, cw same.
[09:41] <g0hww> D 7 I
[09:41] <g0hww> O 9 2 N Q A L T 7 M 5 6 P S E Q S L
[09:42] <g0hww> i'm pretty sure the IO92NQ locator was right
[09:42] <fsphil> 0.7153279 is pretty close to -1.000
[09:43] <amell> oh my god. do i have a balloon from germany floating overhead
[09:43] <g0hww> seems to be moving NE
[09:43] <Vaizki> amell, it's actually a zeppelin
[09:43] <g0hww> will it catch fire?
[09:43] <amell> wtf is up with that flght path
[09:44] <amell> looks like serious GPS glitching
[09:45] <Vaizki> IO92OR
[09:45] <g0hww> think that was IO92OR
[09:45] <Vaizki> amell, no it's output formatting bugs
[09:45] <Vaizki> leading zero padding and some negative int bug
[09:45] <gonzo_> I can see d7, but very short data burst
[09:45] <pc1pcl> amell: gps is probably fine, just the formatting code is being put to a real test for the first time.
[09:45] <g0hww> yep, moving on a NE track
[09:46] <g0hww> alt 7190
[09:46] <Vaizki> http://dxcluster.ha8tks.hu/hamgeocoding/
[09:47] <Vaizki> that's what I use for maidenhead locators
[09:47] <DL7AD> actually D-7 should switch its CW at 2°E to 434.500 MHz but it didn't
[09:47] <pc1pcl> http://qthlocator.free.fr/index.php <== alternative
[09:47] <g0hww> there's a maidenhead to google maps thing here: http://qthlocator.free.fr/index.php
[09:47] <g0hww> d'oh
[09:48] <Vaizki> yea I tried that too
[09:48] <amell> !dial D-7
[09:48] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:48] <Vaizki> but the one I linked shows coords without clicking :)
[09:48] <amell> got a freq please?
[09:48] <amell> !payloads
[09:48] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[09:48] <Vaizki> amell, the flight doc also expired.. 434.500 for domex22 and 432.093 for cw
[09:48] <amell> !flights
[09:48] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: Current flights: 03M2 10(af9c), 03EDUPICDX2 10(4830)
[09:48] <amell> thanks
[09:48] <amell> 432? seriously?
[09:49] <amell> just checking thats not a typo
[09:49] <Vaizki> it's a german thing
[09:49] <pc1pcl> for domex22 need to set the reverse option
[09:49] <amell> i see it on 432, but that is very busy with something in the UK
[09:50] <Vaizki> IO92OS..
[09:50] <Vaizki> should recross into the eastern hemisphere in an hour or so?
[09:51] <Vaizki> then maybe the map will start making sense
[09:51] <Vaizki> (some sense)
[09:51] <amell> can we not extend the flight doc?
[09:51] <pc1pcl> still will have the error in the mising 0s after teh decimal point ;)
[09:52] <amell> its been done before.
[09:52] <Vaizki> well I suggested just copying it and having it approved
[09:53] <Vaizki> pc1pcl, sure but it won't be off by more than 100-200km after that :)
[09:53] <g0hww> io92ot
[09:53] <Vaizki> sorry err 20-30km
[09:54] <g0hww> alt 7235
[09:54] <amell> CW and Dex22 - way to go to use unusual protocols!
[09:55] <pc1pcl> and at least that leading 0 bug is more or less recoverable from.
[09:55] <Vaizki> oldskool meets new kid on the block
[09:55] <Vaizki> pc1pcl, yes especially since D7 uses fixed amount of decimals
[09:55] <Vaizki> so it could be fixed with a hotfix filter
[09:56] <Vaizki> pad with leading zeros so there are always 4 decimals
[09:56] <fsphil> you need to AND the part of the latitude after the decimal point with 0xFFFF
[09:56] <Vaizki> right, so signed/unsigned bug
[09:56] <fsphil> that and correcting the signed problem, it's at 52.8261 -0.7116
[09:57] <amell> are you sure D-7 is Dex22? it wont decode for me
[09:57] <pc1pcl> 'rv' option ticked?
[09:57] <Vaizki> amell, did you Rv it in fldigi?
[09:57] <amell> it is now....
[09:58] <amell> :)
[09:58] <amell> why Rv?
[09:58] <g0hww> A L L O O N D 7 I O 9 2 P U A L T 7 1 9 1 P S E Q S L D L 7 A D
[09:59] <amell> thought DL7AD had launched plenty times before
[09:59] <pc1pcl> amell: another little bug I guess.
[09:59] <amell> whats new about this one? funky hardware or something?
[09:59] <DL7AD> amell: yes but with another CPU
[09:59] <pc1pcl> amell: he mentioned this is the first time with new uControlelr and all new software
[09:59] <amell> ok. not seen the forum posting.
[09:59] <Vaizki> which m0+ are you using btw? stm32?
[09:59] <DL7AD> ARM0+ cortex
[09:59] <DL7AD> LPC1114
[10:00] <DL7AD> from NXP
[10:00] <Vaizki> ah.. fn28?
[10:00] <amell> is it in assembly or C?
[10:00] <Vaizki> hmm no you showed the tracker.. must be SMD version
[10:00] <DL7AD> C
[10:00] <DL7AD> Vaizki: fn28?
[10:00] <amell> leobodnar does his in raw assembly :)
[10:00] <fsphil> some of the upper bits in the variable see to have gotten set
[10:00] <Vaizki> LPC1114FN28
[10:00] <fsphil> you may have a buffer overflow
[10:01] <DL7AD> Vaizki: no
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[10:01] <Vaizki> it's the only ARM in DIP package I know of
[10:01] <Vaizki> I mean modern ARM ;)
[10:01] <amell> $$$$$D-7,331,10:1:20,52.9069,0.7151081,7196,9,1417*2667
[10:01] <DL7AD> rofl... no
[10:01] <DL7AD> HVQFN33
[10:01] <Vaizki> it's a fun chip!
[10:02] <Vaizki> https://s3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/switch-science.intl/contents/large/LPC1114_1.jpg
[10:02] <fsphil> 52.9069, -0.7657
[10:02] <Vaizki> ok maybe not good for a pico tracker ;)
[10:02] <amell> oh is it west of me
[10:02] <g0hww> A L L O O N D 7 I O 9 2 P V A L T 7 1 9 6 P S E Q S L D L 7 A D
[10:03] <fsphil> it is heading towards me
[10:03] <fsphil> oooh
[10:03] <DL7AD> Vaizki: omg. im using the LPC114FHN33/303.
[10:03] <DL7AD> using the internal RC oscillator
[10:04] <DL7AD> btw.... did someone notice any shift in modulation?
[10:04] <amell> not in the last ten min for me.
[10:05] <pc1pcl> seemed pretty stable yesterday too for the bit that I tracked it.
[10:05] <amell> $$$$$D-7,332,10:5:29,52.9478,0.7151364,7226,9,1417*00C0
[10:06] <amell> fsphil: why do you think its coming at you?
[10:06] <g0hww> I O 9 2 P W A L T 7 2 2 6
[10:06] <fsphil> 52.9478, -0.7940
[10:06] <amell> seems to be heading over north sea
[10:06] <Vaizki> welcome to Finland
[10:06] <amell> fsphil: why are you quoting different coords?
[10:06] <fsphil> the (hopefully corrected) coordinates are going north west
[10:06] <Vaizki> although last time the germans were here they burned Lapland..
[10:07] <g0hww> it seems to be heading NE based on the maidenhead locators
[10:07] <Vaizki> but we trust the zeppelin comes in peace :)
[10:07] <amell> youre not supposed to mention the war, you know.
[10:07] <fsphil> yea I could be wrong about the negative sign
[10:07] <g0hww> just bypassing Grantham to the north it seems
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[10:08] <fsphil> !hysplit D-7
[10:08] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: HYSPLIT for 03D-7 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/150323-04_137034_D7.gif
[10:09] <amell> !dial edupicdx2
[10:09] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: Latest dials for 03EDUPICDX2 10(4830): 03434.075 MHz, 434.64867 MHz, 434.076 MHz, 0.1 MHz, 434.648441 MHz, 434.64917 MHz, 434.648044 MHz, 434.64117 MHz
[10:09] <amell> I see the battery is 1417 V - will it be making lightning to ground? :)
[10:10] <amell> D-7,333,10:9:52,52.9914,0.7151671,7219,8,1413*65AD
[10:10] <Vaizki> sending decimal points is a waste of spectrum :)
[10:11] <DL7AD> yep
[10:11] <DL7AD> there is no mv option on habhub
[10:11] <amell> does this balloon have solar panel? it looks like an interesting hysplit
[10:11] <pc1pcl> probably is some sort of /1000 option though
[10:12] <Vaizki> DL7AD, mv option=
[10:12] <Vaizki> yea there is scaling
[10:12] <amell> it looks like it will hang around over a war zone.
[10:14] <DL7AD> amell: no solar
[10:14] <amell> $$$$$D-7,334,10:14:5,53.344,0.7151972,7209,7,1415*D333
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_001.jpg
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_002.jpg
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_003.jpg
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_004.jpg
[10:14] <pc1pcl> DL7AD: the leading 0 missing might be something left out of the library linked, doing anyhting special to have the cksums come out correct?
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_005.jpg
[10:14] <Vaizki> IO93QA
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_006.jpg
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_007.jpg
[10:14] <DL7AD> www.dl7ad.de/balloons/D-7/image/d7_008.jpg
[10:15] <Maxell> 001.jpg to 008.jpg
[10:15] <fsphil> possibly 53.0344, -0.8548
[10:15] <amell> cool looking tracker. almost bodnaresque
[10:15] <DL7AD> pc1pcl: yeah that might be the case. i dont have the code with me. will check this in the evening
[10:16] <Vaizki> how much of 17 grams is the AA lithium?
[10:17] <DL7AD> its a varta AA
[10:17] <Maxell> DL7AD: that is one hell of a hackish GPS antenna
[10:17] <amell> lets hope varta doesnt farta
[10:17] <fsphil> so yea I think I'm wrong on the sign
[10:17] <DL7AD> amell: flew it many times before
[10:18] <pc1pcl> "aan de accu kan het niet liggen, want die is van Varta" <= 80s (I think) commercial
[10:18] <amell> $$T-7,335,10:18:14,53.780,0.7152273,7222,7,1419*72A3
[10:19] <Maxell> pc1pcl: :P
[10:21] <pc1pcl> hardware side of things looks solid anyway, good educational experience on the software side ;)
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[10:25] <SpeedEvil> http://www.universetoday.com/119511/nova-in-sagittarius-brighter-than-ever-catch-it-with-the-naked-eye/
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[10:27] <Vaizki> IO93RD
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[10:28] <Vaizki> so NNE heading...
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[10:31] <fsphil> yea
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[10:34] <Vaizki> so it'll go over Hull and then out to sea..
[10:34] <Vaizki> one for infaddict at last ;)
[10:35] <amell> yes, the modulation is drifting downwards slightly.
[10:35] <amell> $$D-7,339,10:34:53,53.2551,0.7153603,7265,6,1423*E322
[10:35] <Vaizki> IO93SG
[10:37] <amell> are we saying that this balloon is actually west of the meridian?
[10:38] <Vaizki> yes
[10:38] <amell> that locator is just north east of lincoln
[10:38] <Vaizki> yes
[10:38] <Vaizki> going NNE towards Hull
[10:39] <craag> heh, D-7 looks like my efforts to draw curves on an etch-a-sketch
[10:39] <amell> ok so it will be quite a while before it goes east
[10:40] <Vaizki> at which point it will resume the zero padding dance it did over germany and belgium
[10:43] <fsphil> it will be interesting to see if longitude fixes itself after 0.3225
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[10:52] <amell> IO93UK
[10:53] <amell> seems to be making a turn to the east
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[10:56] <amell> IO93UL
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[11:13] <DL7AD> thx amell
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[11:14] <infaddict> hey Vaizki, sry was away a bit. what and where is it?!
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[11:21] <infaddict> ah D7, I see it on the map
[11:21] <infaddict> Its been doing a funky dance ;-)
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[11:28] <infaddict> any idea which way its really heading?
[11:30] <infaddict> !dial D-7
[11:30] <SpacenearUS> 03infaddict: Latest dials for 03D-7 10(7acc): 03434.5016 MHz, 434.501603 MHz, 434.5007 MHz, 434.501577 MHz
[11:31] <pc1pcl> outputting maidenhead locators via CW too, and those seem believable.
[11:31] <pc1pcl> CW at 432.092ish
[11:32] <infaddict> how do i decode CW? does fldigi do that
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[11:37] <DL7AD> infaddict: yes it does
[11:37] <DL7AD> but CW is not evaluated by the server
[11:37] <infaddict> heard it around 434500 but gone quiet for a few mins. how often does it TX?
[11:37] <DL7AD> every 4minutes
[11:38] <DL7AD> beeping every 5 seconds
[11:38] <infaddict> there is a beep out there every 6-7 seconds
[11:38] <infaddict> ah right i hear that
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[11:39] <pfy_> !dials D7
[11:39] <pfy_> !dial D7
[11:39] <SpacenearUS> 03pfy_: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:40] <infaddict> its D-7
[11:40] <infaddict> !dial D-7
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> 03infaddict: Latest dials for 03D-7 10(7acc): 03434.5016 MHz, 434.501603 MHz, 434.5007 MHz
[11:41] <pfy_> ah, yeah, cheers
[11:42] <pc1pcl> infaddict: fldigi can do CW too, not sure if DLfldigi crashes on it or not.
[11:43] <pc1pcl> if trying for the DomEX22, probably need to set 'Rv' in dlfldigi .
[11:43] <infaddict> ah right was just about to ask what it was tx'ing on 434500!
[11:43] <infaddict> !flights
[11:43] <SpacenearUS> 03infaddict: Current flights: 03M2 10(af9c), 03EDUPICDX2 10(4830), 03Pecan Femto rev 2 Test 10(7acc)
[11:43] <infaddict> hmm
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[11:44] <pfysmate> !DIALS D-7
[11:46] <pfy_> pfysmate: pete, you're having the same trouble as me haha! it's around 434.5
[11:47] <pfy_> just trying http://radiogeek.co.uk/, but can't see it
[11:47] <infaddict> yep its on radiogeek
[11:47] <infaddict> i can see it there
[11:47] <infaddict> every 4 minutes with a 5 second beep
[11:47] <infaddict> just done a main TX now
[11:47] <infaddict> i'm at 434500.09
[11:48] <DL7AD> did somebody decode the locator now?
[11:48] <infaddict> is the map position totally inaccurate then?
[11:49] <pfy_> infaddict: thanks, getting the beeps now.
[11:49] <infaddict> yer wait around 3 mins
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> I have the yagi pointer to the W , will check again at my afternoon break if D7 is in range, or it will be just about I get home from work today
[11:51] <SA6BSS-Mike> nothing heard of
[11:52] <infaddict> if accurate, its only 100Km SE of me, so will check at lunch in about 15 mins
[11:52] <pfy_> just heard main tc
[11:52] <pfy_> tx*
[11:56] <DL7AD> i think its now accurate again
[11:58] <infaddict> ok still hopping around on map tho
[11:58] <infaddict> jumped 40km South
[11:59] <amell> i have it now
[11:59] <amell> got the pips, just waiting for a TX
[11:59] <amell> been away from computer
[12:00] <amell> $$D-7,359,12:0:18,54.2154,0.4548,7186,10,1393*PD94
[12:00] <amell> red though
[12:03] <fsphil> oh weird, it corrected itself right on the same position
[12:04] <fsphil> so that'll be accurate for now
[12:04] <amell> $$D-7,360,12:4:33,54.2651,0.5106,7229,10,1389*23F0
[12:05] <amell> strange that i seem to be the only one receiving it...
[12:06] <fsphil> G8KNN ain't doing too badly
[12:06] <amell> yes, im surprised hes picking it up as its not in the flight docs. thought he was automatic pointing.
[12:08] <nigelp_> JO04GT
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[12:09] <amell> $$^$D-7,361,12:8:46,54.3147,0.5678,7189,9,1383*EFS8
[12:09] <amell> SA6BSS: nice one!
[12:09] <amell> nah, must be a websdr...
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[12:16] <g4dnd> test access..
[12:17] <amell> denied
[12:17] <bobsaget> does anyone know where I can find some balloons slightly larger than the qualatex 36inch ones?
[12:17] <amell> $D-7,363,12:17:18,54.4172,0.6854,7212,9,1381*6A17
[12:18] <amell> im getting reds. seem to be the only one receiving.
[12:19] <infaddic_> not having much luck here amell, and i am fairly close
[12:20] <pc1pcl> infaddic_: are you getting the beeps, or not even those?
[12:20] <infaddic_> not even them thru my yagi, still tuning my SDR tho so searching around a bit
[12:20] <infaddic_> hear them fine on websdr of course
[12:22] <infaddic_> its not tx'ing every 4 mins tho
[12:22] <infaddic_> 4min 40sec since last one
[12:23] <amell> green! at 252,2km :)
[12:23] <infaddic_> looks to be about 5min 30sec between TX
[12:24] <amell> G8knn got that one too, so i wonder if the aerial has an irregular radiation pattern
[12:27] <infaddic_> problem i have is yagi only on a tripod so very low and housing in the distance. this ballon is at 2 degree elevation only.
[12:27] <amell> 0.5 elevation here
[12:28] <amell> red at $$D-7,365,12:27:43,54V5469,0.8271,7159,9,1H66*FEC4
[12:28] <infaddic_> V in the lat
[12:28] <amell> yes
[12:28] <infaddic_> and H at end
[12:28] <amell> as far as i know dl-fldigi doesnt allow you to manually correct upload strings
[12:28] <infaddic_> nope, would be useful feature. often only 1 bad char.
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[12:32] <gonzo_> that would be FEC
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[12:37] <fsphil> bobsaget: random solutions has lots of sizes, http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Welcome.html
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[12:58] <DL7AD> does anyone know the telemetry graph page link of x-f ?
[12:59] <x-f> DL7AD, http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/D-7
[12:59] <DL7AD> thanks x-f
[13:00] <x-f> you're welcome
[13:01] <fl_0> A L L O O N D 7 J O 0 4 O V A L T 7 2 0 5 P S E Q S L D L 7 A D
[13:01] <fl_0> :-)
[13:02] <fl_0> in JO31RL
[13:02] <fl_0> via websdr =)
[13:18] <fl_0> $$$$$D-7,375,13:18:6,55.1852,1.6074,7227,10,1389*5Bg:$$$$$D-7,375,13:18:6,55.1852,1.6074,7227,10,1389*5Bg:
[13:18] <fl_0> domino also seems to be working =)
[13:19] <DL7AD> sotra
[13:19] <DL7AD> sorta
[13:19] <DL7AD> there's still the padding error
[13:19] <DL7AD> *left
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[14:14] <bobsaget> fsphil: thank you!
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[15:04] <Babs____> Afternoon - has anyone ever tried soldering one of these? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12769
[15:04] <Babs____> It would be nice to have a reflow option but part of it is plastic and I dont know whether it is heatproof
[15:05] <Babs____> And want to avoid the nuclear scenario of poking it with something hot to check whether it is or not
[15:05] <Vaizki> hot air gun?
[15:06] <mattbrejza> Babs____: theyre pretty easy to solder by hand
[15:06] <edmoore> fine to reflow in the oven
[15:06] <Vaizki> but no I have never tried soldering those
[15:06] <edmoore> have also one things like that by hand
[15:06] <edmoore> it'll be designed to withstand reflowing, don't worry
[15:06] <Babs____> Ok thanks ed
[15:07] <Vaizki> according to D-7 hysplit it will be over my house in about 13 hours
[15:07] <mattbrejza> otherwise youll be able to have a good chuckle as you scrape melted plastic from your board
[15:07] <Vaizki> that's handy.. 6am in the morning
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[15:08] <Vaizki> !hysplit d-7
[15:08] <SpacenearUS> 03Vaizki: HYSPLIT for 03D-7 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/150323-10_149499_D7.gif
[15:08] <Vaizki> what are the different colors on the tracker and in that gif?
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[15:09] <Vaizki> I know they are different projections but is some color more probable than others?
[15:09] <Babs____> I'll drop it in the post to you Mattbrejza when it does
[15:09] <Babs____> ;-)
[15:09] <infaddict> Vaizki: i wondered that too about the colours
[15:09] <infaddict> is it min, max, mean
[15:10] <mattbrejza> heh
[15:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The colours refer to the trajectory for that pressure / height, when you run the hysplit it plots various permutations based on small differences
[15:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> in the starting point
[15:15] <amell> back. sentence 371 was my last partial. $$)T-7,371,10$54:23IUJ.U834,1.2184,7205W,1P87*V4Pj
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[15:18] <infaddict> thx Geoff-G8DHE-M... so what values of height/pressure do the 3 colours match to?
[15:18] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Click the bubbles and it will tell you the details
[15:18] <amell> impressive etchasketch
[15:19] <Vaizki> Geoff-G8DHE: it doesn't tell anything except time, position and height for me
[15:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Height being the variable
[15:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> At least pressure height as I understand it
[15:20] <Vaizki> hmm ok
[15:21] <Vaizki> so there's 8 lines of each color on the tracker map, how are they related then?
[15:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> for sll the gory detail go to the site and read the helps http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/HYSPLIT_traj.php
[15:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> Vaizki: if you press hysplit in http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=6_hours&f=D-7 you can cklick on the bubles
[15:24] <Vaizki> The trajectory ensemble option will start multiple trajectories from the first selected starting location. Each member of the trajectory ensemble is calculated by offsetting the meteorological data by a fixed grid factor (one grid meteorological grid point in the horizontal and 0.01 sigma units in the vertical). This results in 27 members for all-possible offsets in X,Y, and Z.
[15:24] <Vaizki> ok so it's apparently this :)
[15:25] <amell> simple isnt it
[15:26] <Vaizki> SA6BSS-Mike: and yes that's where I clicked but I didn't really get from those popup boxes how the tracks differ from each other
[15:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> oki
[15:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> lets see who pics up D-7 first SKY vs EQ
[15:29] <Vaizki> so I'm guessing the 3 different colors represent 3 different altitude errors and each line in the color "whip" represents one of 9 starting points in a 3x3 offset grid where
[15:29] <Vaizki> where the center one would be without any offset.. but we have no way of knowing which line is which
[15:30] <Vaizki> green one seems to be doing ok :)
[15:30] <Vaizki> EQ should pick it up any minute now if he's tracking
[15:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah he´s in a good possion
[15:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> *possition
[15:31] <Vaizki> your typing is as good as mine
[15:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> :)
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[15:37] <Vaizki> LA3EQ should be in range.. maybe he's not listening.
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[15:57] <DL7AD> was was the correct frequency for D-7?
[15:58] <infaddict> i was seeing the dominoex at 434500.09 iirc
[15:59] <infaddict> !dial D-7
[15:59] <SpacenearUS> 03infaddict: Latest dials for 03D-7 10(7acc): 03434.5007 MHz
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[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[17:13] <infaddict> hi Lunar_Lander
[17:19] <DL7AD> hi Lunar_Lander
[17:21] <Lunar_Lander> hi
[17:25] <Vaizki> new hysplit for D-7.. should have crossed the coast to sweden mainland if I interpret that right?
[17:26] <Vaizki> I hope it's not down.. I want it to make it to Finland :)
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[17:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> I can hear it
[17:32] <SA6BSS-Mike> I can hear it D-7 is stil alive :)
[17:33] <SA6BSS-Mike> I had changed dongle and set the ppm wrong
[17:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> its quite strong so I should get a decode next time
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[17:35] <SA6BSS-Mike> ahh forgot to set rv grr
[17:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> ,6951,9,1391 hight sats and bat got through
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[17:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> Got it :)
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[17:52] <Vaizki> hey good job!
[17:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> tnx :)
[17:52] <SA6BSS-Mike> probably ben i range for last hour or so
[17:53] <Vaizki> I guess I should get it in 4 hours or so
[17:54] <Vaizki> too bad I took down my 2m/70cm antenna.. maybe I need to go rig it back up :P
[17:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> have notified REB-SM0ULC
[17:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> u still have the time
[17:54] <Vaizki> where is he?
[17:54] <SA6BSS-Mike> Stockholm
[17:55] <Vaizki> yea except it's pitch black outside and there is freezing rain on my roof
[17:55] <Vaizki> I still have a Discone up there
[17:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> sound like when I mounted my 70cm yagi in Novemer
[17:55] <Vaizki> may or may not be enough
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[17:58] <Vaizki> 148.6km/h.. it's blowing up there...
[17:58] <Vaizki> or just a bad calc :)
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[18:01] <Vaizki> yea I should get it by midnight
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[18:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[18:12] <mbales_> ahoy hoyu
[18:13] <KT5TK1> Wow! D-7 back in Sweden.
[18:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and good signal from it too
[18:16] <KT5TK1> I.3 Vols on the battery
[18:17] <KT5TK1> 1.3 Volts
[18:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> also the cw beacon: "Balloon d7 jo58cr alt 6803 pse qsl dl7ad"
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[18:27] <OZ1SKY_Brian> The D7 Domex22 signal seems to be abit wider than the bandwith in dl-fldigi
[18:29] <pc1pcl> I think that is 'normal' and just made sure the middle of the leftmost tone was on the red line. signal might look slightly different now though..
[18:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> iam at the center but its still only decode 1/3
[18:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> most look like this $^$$^DrF,448,18:31:21,58.8793,10.9222,6797,8,1309*3856
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[18:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Its the start up i have a problem with
[18:32] <pc1pcl> yeah, it's a pity it's only one sentence at a time.
[18:33] <tweetBot> @nerdsville: As Cilla would say having a "LoRa LoRa Fun" with some RFM98W modules #hab #ukhas
[18:34] <Reb-SM0ULC> yo
[18:34] <SA6BSS-Mike> tjaaa
[18:34] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Reb, D7 needs you soon :-)
[18:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> H Rate 828.5 km/h :-)
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[18:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Hi Sven
[18:42] <Vaizki> I can hear the sonic boom in Helsinki already
[18:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lol
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[18:45] <Reb-SM0ULC> OZ1SKY_Brian: starting up stuff in a hurry.... last pass with new years and i missed it totally...
[18:45] <Reb-SM0ULC> !dial D-7
[18:45] <SpacenearUS> 03Reb-SM0ULC: Latest dials for 03D-7 10(7acc): 03434.4957 MHz
[18:46] <SA6BSS-Mike> I got it on 434.5035 @1000
[18:47] <Reb-SM0ULC> check
[18:47] <pc1pcl> Reb-SM0ULC: need 'rv' on fldigi
[18:47] <OZ1SKY_Brian> or LSB mode
[18:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes, importent, its on LSB so change RV on dlfldigi if u run usb
[18:49] <pc1pcl> I think I tried that and still needed Rv , maybe because dl-fldigi also got changed to LSB (rigcontrol) and compensated for that..
[18:49] <Upu> !aprs add M0UPU-11
[18:49] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Added 03M0UPU-11 to APRS Importer
[18:49] <Oddstr13> nice animation
[18:49] <pc1pcl> but just keep in mind you probably need 'rv' if everything is loud but gibbereish decode.
[18:50] <Oddstr13> I just saw Reb drop in on the map :P
[18:50] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc1pcl: changed to lsb and removed RV, lests see how that goes
[18:50] <Oddstr13> too bad it's too far south for me :/
[18:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc1pcl: on LSB it woked for me with RV unchecked
[18:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Im also on LSB here
[18:59] <pc1pcl> Ok, next time I'll experiment a little more with it :)
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[19:03] <DL7AD> OZ1SKY_Brian: hi brian
[19:04] <Reb-SM0ULC> mmm
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[19:04] <Reb-SM0ULC> 85 m/s accurate speed??
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[19:05] <pc1pcl> Reb-SM0ULC: no, just made another leading .0 missing jump
[19:06] <Reb-SM0ULC> aaah
[19:06] <pc1pcl> if coordinate doesn't have 4 decimal places, need to add in 0s
[19:06] <Reb-SM0ULC> 180 kmh also respecable speed
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[19:07] <pc1pcl> now it's jumped back to right coordinates, but last ones were off, so need another correct one for the proper speed.
[19:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its getting abit too weak here now, its all yours now SA6BSS-Mike
[19:09] <Reb-SM0ULC> how long are the transmissions?
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[19:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> only a few sec, but theres a beep every sec or so
[19:10] <Reb-SM0ULC> oki
[19:10] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but there is a pause after the domex22, as it switches to 432.093 CW and then returns
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[19:11] <Reb-SM0ULC> ah
[19:12] <pc1pcl> beeps are 4 seconds apart, so depending on waterfall speed/depth you can have one or two 'on screen'; they are not exactly on the center of the DomEx though.
[19:13] <floris497> how do i read the data from a SDR? can someone tell me?
[19:13] <floris497> is an sdr what everyone uses?
[19:14] <pc1pcl> floris497: you can feed the audio-output of the SDR to a decoding program (usually dl-fldigi) to have it turned form tones into text
[19:15] <floris497> pc1pcl: ehm my sdr has no audio output only usb..? but how is that process going?
[19:15] <floris497> cant i get the bits and bytes from a terminal program?
[19:16] <pc1pcl> step 1 would be to get the information from the SDR via its USB port.
[19:16] <pc1pcl> you can get 'bits and bytes' (I-Q) information, but it's usually easier to demodulate the on-air signals to audio
[19:17] <pc1pcl> I guess you could start with trying to receive broadcast radio with the SDR-stick
[19:17] <floris497> i dont have my sdr yet.. but i was thinking there was some software that conveted the signal into data
[19:18] <pc1pcl> yeah, for windows you'd usually use "SDR#", on linux "gqrx".
[19:18] <floris497> pc1pcl: i dont have it yet :p i had to tell the product owner why and how it workes and if it was comatible
[19:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> floris497: I put my audio out from my soundcard to an external soundcard, U can also use virtual audio cable
[19:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> floris497: I do use A sdr, prefers ir over my ft-817/ts2000
[19:19] <floris497> but if the frquency is supported by the SDR it will be oke right?
[19:20] <pc1pcl> if you're using a very 'lightweight' computer like a raspberry PI, it might not be powerful enough to do the translation from 'data' to 'sound' by itself, so then you'd look into something to transport the 'raw data' to somewhere else.
[19:20] <floris497> pc1pcl: also a raspberry pi 2?
[19:21] <floris497> taht is quite powerfull
[19:21] <floris497> but i have to go to the store real quick.. brb
[19:21] <pc1pcl> floris497: haven't tried with the Pi2 yet, might just work there.
[19:22] <floris497> thanks for the help
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[19:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> Thats strange, I get better result if I tune it a little out of center https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26543754/sned1.JPG
[19:24] <pc1pcl> strange, although I had it a littel off-set myself, but with only 1 tone sticking out (on the left)
[19:25] <pc1pcl> hmm your radio is set to LSB, but dl-fldigi to 'USB' (no rig control, probabyl because of the SDR setup), so probably that's why you don't need 'Rv'?
[19:27] <infaddict> when adjusting freq of the NTX2B-FA, is it just the EN pin I need to wire to? or VCC as well? The EN pin is the only pin you write to when setting freq.
[19:27] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc1pcl: no rig controll so thats why usb in dlfldigi does not mather
[19:28] <pc1pcl> SA6BSS-Mike: I think if you'd set the dl-fldigi setting to LSB, you'd need 'RV' again
[19:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc1pcl: oki, lets try :)
[19:29] <pc1pcl> infaddict: I guess you'd need both Vcc and Gnd too..
[19:29] <pc1pcl> just not data, or RF-out.
[19:30] <infaddict> yer pc1pcl i think so too, problem is no way of knowing if its worked (no ack). just have to try to RX and see how it looks.
[19:30] <infaddict> gonna try a few freqs to see how it moves on my dongle
[19:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc1pcl: made no differance, decoded just fine in lsb set in dlfldigi
[19:32] <Vaizki> ha, now 3 finnish trackers on the map
[19:33] <Vaizki> good to see I would not be alone if launching..
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[19:34] <pc1pcl> SA6BSS-Mike: Will do some more tests if/when D-8 comes along ;)
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[19:36] <SA6BSS-Mike> pc1pcl: yes , first hab on lsb I think so things have to be investigated :)
[19:37] <Reb-SM0ULC> got it
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[19:41] <Reb-SM0ULC> rxid?
[19:44] <mbales_> anyone live in someplace outside the US that allows APRS and want to test one of my APRS boards in the near future.
[19:44] <mbales_> should be a
[19:44] <mbales_> ? not a .
[19:44] <pc1pcl> Reb-SM0ULC: no rxid, settings are DomEX22, LSB so might need 'rv'
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[20:20] <infaddict> Need some advice guys. Tuning up my dongle. I'm TX'ing at 434.200 and writing 0 and 200 to see quite a large shift...
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[20:20] <cambazz> hello friends!
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[20:20] <infaddict> I am RX'ing the low (0) below where it should be at around 434.186
[20:20] <infaddict> I've added a correciton of 32ppm which brings the low (0) bang on to 434.200
[20:21] <infaddict> Is that the correct approach (i.e. tune to the low 0 value)
[20:21] <infaddict> hello camb
[20:21] <infaddict> hello cambazz
[20:21] <Vaizki> infaddict: why not tune to APRS on 144.800 for example and get that spot on?
[20:22] <Vaizki> or some other known good signal
[20:22] <pc1pcl> Well, at least with 0 you can be absolutely sure it's 0, but your transmitter could be off by a bit too.
[20:22] <Vaizki> well actually if you use PWM sometimes 0 isn't quite 0
[20:22] <Vaizki> at least according to my googling on atmega pwm...
[20:23] <infaddict> problem is knowing what signal is exactly correct (or best i can get)
[20:23] <infaddict> local FM is too wide really
[20:23] <pc1pcl> that's why i backspaced over 'are' and replaced with can be ;)
[20:23] <infaddict> what is APRS 144.800?
[20:23] <Vaizki> automatic position reporting system
[20:23] <Vaizki> ham packet radio AFSK1200
[20:23] <pc1pcl> at 144.800 those pesky amateur radio guys are often transmitting their packet radio stuffs
[20:23] <Vaizki> some habs too
[20:24] <craag> MY HOUSE IS *HERE* WIDE7-7
[20:24] <craag> etc
[20:24] <infaddict> anyway good news is i though my radio was WAY out but turns out the NTX2B-FA I was shipped wasnt programmed to what it said it was
[20:25] <cambazz> daveake: are you there? I am reading and playing with the source code of FlexTrack and FlexTrackAVR, and I made them work with anarduino. (needed to set dio5 to 4)
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[20:25] <cambazz> can you elaborate a little bit on the TDM and the timeToSend function. in what way this does tdm? its a way of knowing when to transmit and listen right
[20:26] <pc1pcl> craag: my expensive radio-kit is 'here'
[20:27] <mattbrejza> craag: https://www.flickr.com/photos/104821768@N06/16701892837/ something familar in this image? :P
[20:28] <craag> :D
[20:29] <infaddict> so now that i have tuning a bit better, silly question #2... when TX'ing from payload i am presuming with RTTY USB my advertised frequency is wherever my low bit freq is?
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[20:31] <pc1pcl> Often center frequency is used, or where to tune to get center frequency at 1000 or 1500
[20:31] <infaddict> ah right
[20:32] <infaddict> so to get a centre freq of 434.200 i'd have to set my NTX2B-FA lower than that
[20:32] <pc1pcl> http://www.eham.net/articles/27625
[20:32] <infaddict> cool thx pc1pcl will read that now ;-)
[20:32] <Vaizki> why do you want that exact center freq?
[20:33] <infaddict> i just asked what freq i needed and one suggestion was centre freq
[20:34] <Vaizki> so you want a nice even number like 434.200 to advertise?
[20:34] <mfa298> infaddict: the only silly questions are the ones you don't ask that then lead to mistakes being made!
[20:34] <pc1pcl> infaddict: it will probably drift anyway, and everyone has a different 'sweet spot' where they want the tones to fall.
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[20:50] <Reb-SM0ULC> d-7 coming in +25 db on simple dipol
[20:50] <Reb-SM0ULC> e
[20:50] <amell> !hysplit run d-7
[20:50] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: You need to be an admin to do that.
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[20:55] <fl_0> any websdr over in SM that I can use to decode D-7?
[20:55] <fl_0> :)
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[21:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> fl_0: no in swe but in Finland http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/1499 use this one, its realy good
[21:00] <fl_0> ah nice
[21:00] <fl_0> so I got to wait until it reaches finland :D
[21:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> it will be in range of that in maby as little as 30min
[21:00] <pc1pcl> Another one in Finland: http://websdr.oh2lak.net:8901/
[21:00] <Reb-SM0ULC> fl_0: i could have started mine but have to reinstall
[21:01] <fl_0> nice the latter one does not need an account
[21:01] <fl_0> :)
[21:01] <Vaizki> well I don't have time to setup my 2m/70cm antenna it seems, family stuff intervenes...
[21:01] <fl_0> tnx guys
[21:02] <Vaizki> but Airspy rocks, I can monitor 434.500 and 432.090 at the same time
[21:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> wesdr one is not covering 434.5
[21:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> and global tuner isnt working
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[21:03] <fl_0> i c
[21:03] <fl_0> websdr cuts at 434.000
[21:03] <fl_0> :(
[21:03] <DL7AD> but not for CW
[21:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> this one is up
[21:03] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/89/js2
[21:04] <pc1pcl> 432.090 should work in websdr one
[21:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> true
[21:04] <fl_0> true
[21:04] <fl_0> but telemetry is on 434.500
[21:04] <DL7AD> yes
[21:04] <Reb-SM0ULC> cw on 432.09?
[21:05] <fl_0> DL7AD: guten abend
[21:05] <fl_0> CW is on 432.090
[21:05] <fl_0> right
[21:05] <DL7AD> fl_0: moin
[21:05] <fl_0> :)
[21:05] <SA6BSS-Mike> I´m in on http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/89/js2 listening
[21:09] <Reb-SM0ULC> ohh, some 42 dB...
[21:10] <Reb-SM0ULC> 10.26 km, pretty close
[21:10] <pc1pcl> setting up an account at globaltuners now so it's fully functional next time...
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[21:13] <pc1pcl> !dial D-7
[21:13] <SpacenearUS> 03pc1pcl: Latest dials for 03D-7 10(7acc): none
[21:18] <Vaizki> I had a sudden revelation that my X-50 and Discone are both Diamond antennas and share the same attachment tube to bolt on to the mast
[21:18] <Vaizki> it was a matter of loosening one screw and replacing discone with X-50
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[21:21] <pc1pcl> hurray for standardization..
[21:21] <Vaizki> indeed, an hurray for N-connectors everywhere ;)
[21:22] <myself> Oh you have no idea.
[21:22] <myself> I have N connectors staring at me from a dozen ports, but our DUTs are all Fakra, and nobody makes cables that go direct. There's always a stop at SMA in the middle somewhere..
[21:23] <Vaizki> I don't even know what Fakra is
[21:23] <Vaizki> oh
[21:23] <Vaizki> never seen one of those
[21:24] <Vaizki> avionics?
[21:24] <Vaizki> looks so expensive it must be avionics ;)
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[21:27] <myself> Nah, it's super cheap, everything in automotive is cost-optimized.
[21:27] <myself> They took the RF core of an SMB connector, and put it in automotive-style color-coded keyed latching housings.
[21:28] <Vaizki> I'm sure there's a special crimping tool needed that runs 600 euros
[21:28] <Vaizki> even if the connectors themselves are a dime a dozen :)
[21:29] <myself> So if your HMI module has separate connectors on the back for AM b'cast, FM b'cast, SDARS patch, GNSS patch, GSM/LTE trx, they can each have a separate color and key, so the goons on the assembly line don't misplug 'em after doing the same thing 25,000 times and turning their brains to jelly.
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[21:30] <myself> Tooling depends on the connector mfr. Most of the ones I've used specify a nice Daniels crimper which, yes, sets you back a few hundred bucks, but they work perfectly fine with the $60 multi-die set that every ham owns.
[21:30] <myself> For production assembly of course they have automated tooling that costs more than a nice house, but will crank out 1000 perfect terminations per hour...
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[21:31] <Vaizki> right..
[21:32] <myself> A lot of SMB plugs can mate directly with Fakra, if the shroud permits it. Depends on the outer diameter of the push-pull part on the plug, which isn't specified for SMB, so it's a crapshoot.
[21:33] <myself> But if you strip the plastic housings off your Fakra cables, they lose their physical protection but now they'll mate with anything. That's how most of our lab runs, since it also makes them key-agnostic.
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[21:44] <Reb-SM0ULC> no more beeps from D-7 here
[21:44] <Reb-SM0ULC> some occasional though..
[21:44] <DL7AD> Reb-SM0ULC: even not on CW qrg?
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[21:49] <Vaizki> hey don't quit now :)
[21:49] <Vaizki> just when I'm coming into range...
[21:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> Reb has a big hill on his east side, thats why he cant rx
[21:50] <Vaizki> well I might also have trouble for the same reason...
[21:50] <Reb-SM0ULC> DL7AD: nope
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[21:50] <Vaizki> 163km/h is a nice speed to travel at though
[21:51] <DL7AD> well it almost reached finland
[21:51] <DL7AD> Vaizki: D-2 reached 180kmh in the same region :D
[21:52] <Reb-SM0ULC> DL7AD: very very faint cw. have local stuff very close..
[21:52] <Vaizki> well let's see if I catch it.. my antenna is not very well positioned though...
[21:52] <Vaizki> or do you think it died?
[21:52] <Vaizki> ah ok still going
[21:53] <DL7AD> Vaizki: no
[21:53] <Vaizki> 5 people online in FI now
[21:53] <DL7AD> i think it will pass the next day
[21:53] <Vaizki> welcome party
[21:53] <DL7AD> and tomorrow evening the battery will probably die
[21:54] <DL7AD> does someone know anyone in russia who could possibly decode the CW at least?
[21:56] <petrinm> Yey! I can hear it from Espoo, Finland with my yagi. Let's see can I get data from it
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[21:59] <Vaizki> petrinm: where are you here in Espoo?
[21:59] <Vaizki> otaniemi?
[21:59] <petrinm> yup
[22:00] <Vaizki> I don't have a Yagi, just an X-50 omni here.. so let's see when I hear it
[22:00] <Vaizki> are you getting it on 432.090 or 434.500?
[22:00] <fl_0> nothing on the espoo websdr (yet)
[22:01] <Vaizki> I have something very feint on 434.500 but might be local
[22:01] <petrinm> http://i.imgur.com/aGYlOuQ.png getting closer...
[22:02] <Vaizki> oh that's a great signal already
[22:02] <KT5TK1> petrinm Use LSB or reverse
[22:03] <Vaizki> petrinm: what freq?
[22:03] <petrinm> 434.5005MHz
[22:04] <Vaizki> ok hrmpf then my aerial is just not getting it
[22:07] <Vaizki> and I have a huge local signal on 434.510 which tries to swamp me...
[22:07] <petrinm> Vaizki: same problem here
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[22:12] <Vaizki> my main problem is that I'm seeing nothing of D-7....
[22:12] <can> so i am having some trouble with the rfm98w. using daveake's code FlexTrack and LoraHandheldAVR - I managed to get FlexTrack to transmit, and i can verify that it transmits from rtl-sdr, since I did not had the gps, i changed the isTimeToSend - to work without tdm, just with delays. transmitter module sends.
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[22:13] <can> however the receive module it wont receive anything, and i traced it to the part in checkRx() { if(digitalRead(dio0)) ... the dio0 is never high
[22:16] <petrinm> 1.5 degree error in antenna pointing makes the beeping disapear :|
[22:17] <fl_0> seems like some dl-fldigi stations popping up in finland
[22:17] <fl_0> :)
[22:17] <infaddic_> ok guys, looking for feedback on my latest PCB design: http://gerblook.org/pcb/LFV8g2TeeSk9gJZBhnyQ2Y#front (eagle zip here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47752976/HAB1.zip)
[22:18] <infaddic_> this version has all previous feedback included ;-)
[22:18] <infaddic_> speak now or I waste my hard earned $ on coffee coasters!
[22:18] <Vaizki> I see traces not aligned to 45° :)
[22:20] <infaddic_> theres 1 i think
[22:20] <infaddic_> but its a straight line
[22:20] <Vaizki> I instantly see at least 5
[22:20] <Vaizki> or well not sure
[22:20] <Vaizki> at least 3 :)
[22:21] <Vaizki> if you break out pins like you have done, maybe put them on a standard spaced header like JP1 is
[22:21] <Vaizki> instead of random spacing / placement
[22:22] <infaddic_> ok
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[22:22] <Vaizki> and break out a 3.3V + GND while you're at it :)
[22:23] <infaddic_> huh?
[22:24] <infaddic_> not sure what you mean Vaizki
[22:24] <Vaizki> the reason for breaking out pins is to allow an ad-hoc addition to the board later, right?
[22:25] <Vaizki> so whatever you add, might appreciate access to Vcc +3.3V and ground
[22:25] <infaddic_> ah right i get you
[22:25] <petrinm> yay! finally a full packet from D-7
[22:26] <Vaizki> might be that my antenna is too low
[22:26] <KT5TK1> Congrats!
[22:26] <petrinm> I wish dl-fldigi could send the bearing to hamlib/rotator
[22:26] <Vaizki> are you standing on the roof with the yagi or is it motor'd up?
[22:26] <Reb-SM0ULC> petrinm: :)
[22:26] <infaddic_> ok gotta call it a night now, hope you Finland guys get a good signal!
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[22:28] <petrinm> Vaizki: Motored and both azimuth and elevation are controllable. This station is purposed for satellite tracking :D
[22:28] <Vaizki> eh ok :)
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[22:31] <Vaizki> oo I might have just seen a feint signal
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[22:34] <fl_0> yay
[22:34] <fl_0> can hear it on the websed :)
[22:36] <fl_0> sdr
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[22:44] <Vaizki> I hear it but it's very feint, no chance of decode..
[22:45] <fl_0> mee too
[22:45] <Vaizki> which websdr are you on?
[22:45] <DL7AD> where?
[22:45] <Vaizki> DL7AD: I hear it on my own radio in Finland
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[22:46] <DL7AD> and where does fl_0?
[22:46] <Vaizki> one hour and it will be over tallinn
[22:46] <DL7AD> Vaizki: the cw shall be stronger
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[22:47] <DL7AD> ping x-f
[22:47] <fl_0> webSDR from globaltuners in espoo
[22:47] <DL7AD> could we switch to cw?
[22:47] <fl_0> but cannot find the cw beacon
[22:47] <DL7AD> but me
[22:47] <fl_0> what is the interval of the cw beacon TXes?
[22:48] <SA6BSS-Mike> 4mn 30sek give and take
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[22:51] <Vaizki> but there's a beep every few seconds
[22:51] <Vaizki> I can hear it
[22:51] <Vaizki> and I can hear the CW but not quite decode
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[22:52] <Vaizki> ok partial decoding now
[22:53] <Vaizki> no good locator though
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[22:58] <fl_0> seems to be good signal in espoo now
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[22:58] <fl_0> besides the interferences
[22:59] <fl_0> SA6BSS-Mike: you are online as mikey in the SDR? ;-)
[22:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> as micked
[22:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> yes
[22:59] <fl_0> micked
[22:59] <fl_0> sorry
[22:59] <fl_0> correct
[22:59] <fl_0> :)
[23:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> countdown , will tx soon
[23:00] <fl_0> hehe
[23:00] <fl_0> r u counting the beeps? :-P
[23:01] <fl_0> that was a little too off the center freq for me :(
[23:01] <Vaizki> KO19OI locatior
[23:01] <Vaizki> from cw
[23:02] <fl_0> we upped a telemetry packet with valid position 5 minutes ago
[23:02] <fl_0> (at least /me did)
[23:02] <Vaizki> yea
[23:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> I´l go to bed now, good luck with tracking!
[23:02] <Vaizki> I'm just practising everything
[23:02] <fl_0> from the DominoEX transmission
[23:02] <Vaizki> first balloon I'm getting on my antenna...
[23:02] <fl_0> Vaizki: /mee too
[23:02] <fl_0> :)
[23:03] <Vaizki> now onto the DomEx
[23:03] <fl_0> :)
[23:04] <SA6BSS-Mike> will be listening for my M2 tomrrow night, battery should last till tomorow night, it could show up in Italy
[23:04] <Vaizki> so I got KO19OI and altitude 6716 which is correct
[23:06] <fl_0> I had $$D-7,509,22:56:25,59.3640,22.9712,6762,9,1305*C93F abt. 10 min ago
[23:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> fresh hysplit on D-7 is up
[23:08] <fl_0> where can we find that?
[23:08] <fl_0> or how can we find that?
[23:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> http://tracker.habhub.org/#!mt=roadmap&mz=5&qm=3_hours&mc=56.91046,34.69361&f=D-7
[23:08] <SA6BSS-Mike> just presss hysplit under D-7
[23:09] <fl_0> ah thanks for the hint
[23:09] <SA6BSS-Mike> gn
[23:09] <fl_0> gn8
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[23:15] <Vaizki> well the domex is too weak for me.. going to sleep&
[23:15] <fl_0> gn8 Vaizki
[23:15] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[23:22] <fl_0> a websdr in estonia would be fine now ....
[23:22] <fl_0> :)
[23:23] <Kryczek> hi
[23:24] <Kryczek> I had never heard of websdr
[23:24] <Kryczek> that's really cool
[23:24] <DL7AD> will go to bed.
[23:25] <DL7AD> gnight
[23:25] <fl_0> It is
[23:25] <Kryczek> good night
[23:25] <fl_0> although that produces improper lines to my location onthe tracker map :)
[23:26] <Kryczek> do people try to triangulate signals with websdr?
[23:27] <DL7AD> never heared.
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[23:28] <Kryczek> I mean of course it wouldn't be as good as receivers capable of giving an angle but for example it would have helped in finding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga-3
[23:31] <fl_0> bad interferences again on this one :(((
[23:31] <Vaizki> ha I got one while brushing my teeth etc :)
[23:32] <fl_0> hrhr nice
[23:32] <Vaizki> I figured out how to use dl-flidigi for domex as well...
[23:33] <Vaizki> the little scope right of the WF can be clicked to show a mini waterfall of decoded positions
[23:33] <Vaizki> I need to keep gain down enough to keep it black and with the blips appearing in the middle
[23:33] <Vaizki> I mean the periodic blip blip blip between transmissions
[23:34] <Vaizki> I will wait out one more...
[23:35] <fl_0> got that
[23:35] <fl_0> :)
[23:35] <Vaizki> ack, failed.. just one wrong letter there
[23:35] <fl_0> :(
[23:35] <Vaizki> ; instead of * in front of checksm
[23:35] <fl_0> $$D-7,518,23:34:43,59.1591,24.7523,6758,6,1299*1743
[23:35] <fl_0> that is the correct one
[23:35] <fl_0> :p
[23:35] <Vaizki> yea I got all but the *
[23:35] <Vaizki> irony ;)
[23:35] <fl_0> =)
[23:36] <fl_0> too bad that DominEX does not support AFC
[23:36] <fl_0> :)
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[23:43] <fl_0> okay the last two got broken by the interferences on that SDR
[23:43] <fl_0> I will take a sleep
[23:43] <fl_0> gn8 @ll
[23:44] <Vaizki> I got the last one.. but sleep for me too
[23:44] <fl_0> :)
[23:44] <Vaizki> I will see in the morning how far I got it
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