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[00:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03FSUS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=FSUS
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[00:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HENHAB_TEST_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=HENHAB_TEST_chase
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[04:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MTG003 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=MTG003
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[07:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 030x06 after 0311 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0x06
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[08:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03dl5arg_9_chase - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=dl5arg_9_chase
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[08:42] <DL1SGP> good morning
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[08:44] <DL1SGP> Good Morning Upu
[08:45] <Upu> morning
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[08:51] <fbtl> !flights
[08:51] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:52] <fbtl> !flights 0x06
[08:52] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:52] <fbtl> !flights 0x06 - Pico Flight (3ed8)
[08:52] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:53] <fbtl> !flights 0x06
[08:53] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:53] <fbtl> !flights EDUPICDX1
[08:53] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:53] <fbtl> !flights edupicdx1
[08:53] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:54] <fbtl> !flights 3ed8
[08:54] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[08:54] <fbtl> !tracker
[08:54] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Here you go - 12http://habhub.org/t/
[08:54] <Upu> I think you want !flight
[08:54] <Upu> note no plural
[08:54] <Upu> http://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
[08:55] <fbtl> !flight 0x06
[08:55] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Flight 10(3ed8): 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 09:00 from 03Lower Saxony, Germany 10(51.9392,10.4259)
[08:57] <fbtl> thanks Upu
[08:57] <Upu> nps
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[08:58] <DL1SGP> time for walking the dog, and once back gonna see if 0x06 is floating away :)
[08:59] <Upu> !track 0x06
[08:59] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0x06
[09:08] <Ian_> Morning Upu, Noted your patience and generosity in encouraging a next generation HABber yesterday. I SPOTted that resistance was high but futile :-)
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[09:19] <Upu> well we can but try Ian_
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[09:20] <daveake> Someone should uninvent the spot
[09:23] <Babs_> has anyone ever tried reflowing with a frying pan?
[09:24] <Upu> hot skillet yes
[09:24] <Upu> bit meh
[09:25] <Babs_> any good? i think i am right in saying you hand solder everything right upu?
[09:25] <Upu> I use a proper oven now
[09:25] <Upu> I tried a hot skillet
[09:25] <Upu> was a bit rubbish tbh
[09:26] <Babs_> proper oven as in made for it rather than one of those mad max style toaster oven hacks?
[09:26] <Upu> yep
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[09:26] <Upu> I never got on with the toaster oven either
[09:26] <Babs_> i have a hot air gun as well as a soldering iron at the moment
[09:27] <Upu> if you're not doing anything with under pads
[09:27] <Upu> just hand solder
[09:27] <Babs_> what are under pads?
[09:28] <Upu> stuff like this : http://i.imgur.com/j1dncw1.png
[09:28] <fsphil> pads hidden underneath parts
[09:28] <fsphil> can't get at them with the iron
[09:29] <Babs_> oh yes, none of that nonsense
[09:30] <Babs_> i made a little board without my temp sensors and pwm motor outputs so i can just see how it all works
[09:30] <Babs_> or doesn't work as the case may be
[09:31] <Babs_> https://www.flickr.com/photos/91049302@N00/16622323998/
[09:31] <Babs_> (with apologies for messy traces)
[09:31] <fsphil> nice, looks like a rocket
[09:32] <Babs_> lets hope of the apollo rather than the firework type
[09:34] <Upu> top tip Babs
[09:34] <Upu> alt +print screen
[09:34] <Upu> open imgur.com
[09:34] <Upu> ctrl +v
[09:34] <Upu> we don't get to see your cushions then
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[09:35] <Upu> looks interesting
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[09:35] <Upu> we need to chat about copper pour :)
[09:36] <Babs_> my cushions are great, as is my debbie harry painting
[09:36] <Babs_> but yes, at some point that method is going to yield some personal embarrassment if i am not careful
[09:37] <Babs_> that ground plane stuff i definitely need to get involved with
[09:37] <Babs_> is it terminal without one?
[09:38] <Upu> the connection from the radio to the antenna is suspect too
[09:38] <Upu> why are you making it so small ?
[09:40] <Babs_> trying to make it so i launch from under a foil - makes the whole logistics easier without doing the whole NOTAM thing
[09:40] <Babs_> basically baby :-(
[09:40] <Babs_> but it will be good soldering practice if nothing else
[09:41] <Upu> set a challenge for yourself there
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[09:47] <fbtl> flight 0x06
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[09:48] <fbtl> flights!
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[09:48] <fbtl> flights!
[09:48] <fbtl> !flights
[09:48] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
[09:49] <fbtl> !flight 0x06
[09:49] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Flight 10(3ed8): 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 09:00 from 03Lower Saxony, Germany 10(51.9392,10.4259)
[09:50] <fbtl> !tracker
[09:50] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Here you go - 12http://habhub.org/t/
[09:53] <fbtl> Good morning to you all
[09:55] <Upu> morning again fbtl are you trying to get some thing ?
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[09:58] <fbtl> I'm waiting for 0x06 plus I'm new here!
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[10:02] <Upu> ah ok
[10:03] <Upu> just keep an eye on the map
[10:03] <Upu> !track 0x06
[10:03] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0x06
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[10:04] <Upu> Last recieved 1h 21m ago
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[10:05] <fbtl> tnx Upu
[10:10] Action: DL1SGP wonders if they forgot to let 0x06 go :)
[10:17] <fl_0> is 0x06 going to fly today?
[10:17] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Perhaps they forgot to attach the tracker! But they are probably on ISH time of course:
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[10:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SA6CCS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SA6CCS
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[10:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SUSF after 038 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=SUSF
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[11:02] <fbtl> !flights
[11:02] <SpacenearUS> 03fbtl: Current flights: 03EDUPICDX1 10(c1d9), 03Metro2 10(5030), 030x06 - Pico Flight 10(3ed8)
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[11:34] <EwanP-H> Morning. Is there any information on SC6CC the flight just taken off in Sweden?
[11:35] <EwanP-H> In particular is this transmitting on 434.x and if so what is x?
[11:36] <bertrik> !payload SC6CC
[11:36] <SpacenearUS> 03bertrik: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:36] <bertrik> !payload SA6CCS
[11:36] <SpacenearUS> 03bertrik: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:37] <EwanP-H> It's not listed in the dl-fldigi either :-(
[11:40] <EwanP-H> looks to be a classic up/down flight and the blue circle is just about reach me in western Norway so thought I'd have a listen.
[11:48] Nick change: Odd^Satomi -> Oddstr13
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[11:55] <EwanP-H> Just came in range but nothing heard, map now shows it descending quickly so guess I've missed this one.
[11:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034x6ub-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=4x6ub-11
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[12:59] <Oddstr13> EwanP-H: says APRS, so likley to have been on 144.8 or some such
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[13:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AE0SS-13 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AE0SS-13
[13:22] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC0UUO-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KC0UUO-11
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[13:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AE0SS-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=AE0SS-12
[13:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0BMV-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0BMV-11
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[13:38] <lz1dev> EwanP-H: SA6CCS was on APRS, you can tell by looking on the tracker, "received via: APRS"
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[14:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KA5HND-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KA5HND-1
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[14:30] <Babs_> quick q - i know i can use the analogue pins on an atmega as GPIOs - on that basis is there any issue analogue pins for software serial?
[14:31] <Upu> no
[14:31] <Upu> you can use them
[14:31] <Upu> but you can't use A6 and A7 for output
[14:31] <Upu> but don't use software serial
[14:31] <Babs_> this is just for debug upu
[14:31] <Upu> ok
[14:32] <Babs_> it makes better sense putting them there from a layout perspective
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[15:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 030x06 after 037 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=0x06
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[15:33] <Ian_> Hot skillets are for bacon and designed to make the ISH as in ISH time and delISHious ;) You can even get them from Tefal, with a red SPOT . . . ARGhhhhh!
[15:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD0NMG-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD0NMG-11
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[16:46] Nick change: fl_0|afk -> fl_0
[16:46] <DL1SGP> welcome back fl_0
[16:46] <fl_0> tag
[16:51] <Babs_> ping Upu
[16:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03STBAL2 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=STBAL2
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[17:00] <Upu> hey Babs_
[17:01] <Babs_> hey upu - ground planes - the board i showed you this morning i had previously put a ground plane on
[17:01] <Upu> ok
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[17:01] <Babs_> then when i routed it it basically all but disappeared, so i took it off on the basis that it was useless in its sparceness
[17:02] <Babs_> then i've just hit ratsnest again and its reappeared
[17:02] <Babs_> was my error just not to hits ratsnest to let it reform again
[17:02] <Upu> ok
[17:02] <Babs_> in which case this might be my most dunce error to date?
[17:02] <Upu> no idea would have to see the board really
[17:03] <Babs_> i think it is. duh babs...............
[17:03] <Upu> well if its looking right now
[17:07] <Ian_> Incidentally Babs, six months or so ago your flickr pics were nice and sharp. For the last couple of weeks all the pictures that you have posted look horribly out of focus and a bit grim to me. Can't just be me, surely? Or is everyone just being polite!
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[17:07] <Babs_> http://i.imgur.com/CiVdC6D.png
[17:08] <Upu> 2 things
[17:08] <Upu> 1/ (Important) don't run ground plane under the chip antenna
[17:08] <Upu> 2/ Apply a dru to that and it will fill out to the edges more
[17:08] <Babs_> ok
[17:08] <Babs_> what is a dru?
[17:09] <Upu> design rules check
[17:09] <Upu> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qqwpvg7nn9ews3/Hackvana.dru?dl=0
[17:09] <Babs_> Ian - they are just working photos, when i am logging stuff properly i take them properly
[17:09] <Babs_> i should just use imgur for it instead
[17:10] <Babs_> ok thanks upu
[17:10] <Upu> lines to the crystal should be as short as possible and equal length
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[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[17:12] <Ian_> That Babs is you back to normal pics, thanks. It often wasn't possible to see detail in the 'working ones'. They just didn't work for me. I think Upu and daveake etc. must have been working with the old crystal ball a lot
[17:12] <Ian_> Hello LL
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[17:40] <DL1SGP> heel goeden avond PE2G1
[17:40] <PE2G1> Guten Abend DL1SGP
[17:41] <infaddict> afternoon all
[17:42] <DL1SGP> good afternoon infaddict
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[17:43] <PE2G1> 0x06 not launched because of low cloud?
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[17:44] <DL1SGP> PE2G1: I fear so, low clouds, some rain... not optimal for a float attempt
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[17:45] <DL1SGP> the payload was on for a while this morning and returned to operating mode a bit ago however they still appear to be in the conference building
[17:46] <PE2G1> And no breach in the cloud as far as I can see...
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[17:48] <DL1SGP> PE2G1: this is the situation on Brocken, the highest mountain in that area http://www.harztourist.de/extern/cam/aktuell/brocken05.jpg
[17:48] <DL1SGP> snow and fog :)
[17:48] <DL1SGP> http://www.harztourist.de/extern/cam/aktuell/brocken01.jpg
[17:50] <DL1SGP> and another mountain top http://www.webcam-profi.de/bilder/wurmberg/wurmbergseilbahn.jpg
[17:50] <DL1SGP> I chose one with antennas :D
[17:51] <PE2G1> Tnx for the links. Brocken looks like a great location for a visit, provided the wx and visibilty is good.
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[17:52] <DL1SGP> yeah you can have lovely trips up there
[17:53] <DL1SGP> there is even a steam engine railroad going to the summit... if you just wanna hike one direction
[17:53] <PE2G1> Nice.
[17:53] <DL1SGP> also DB0GSH and DB0XY in range :) in case you want to hit some repeaters
[17:54] <DL1SGP> and from up there you get a lovely radio view, as it is the highest elevation in the area :)
[17:55] <PE2G1> I love those spots with great radio range :)
[18:00] <DL1SGP> there is a restaurant, and a hotel, so if you'd like to SOTA :D feel free
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[18:03] <storm_home> hi all
[18:04] <PE2G1> DL1SGP: Also a perfect location for a WebSDR
[18:06] <DL1SGP> hi storm_home
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[18:06] <DL1SGP> PE2G1: could be, but the folks around wurmberg are a bit more radio-active and not in terms of radiation :D
[18:07] <infaddict> guys, after some feedback on my first ever PCB. very new to Eagle and PCB's in general so feedback welcome. i chose top and bottom ground plane...
[18:07] <infaddict> things are well spaced and its fairly simple. any feedback welcome... http://gerblook.org/pcb/qHEAAThfnPym4SZEzMgWHb#front
[18:07] <infaddict> brb
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[18:10] <DL1SGP> time for dinner bbiab
[18:11] <PE2G1> DL1SGP: Guten Appetit
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[18:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-1
[18:13] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
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[18:18] <DL1SGP> bedankt allemal.
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[18:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KE0BVB-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KE0BVB-11
[18:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:55] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[18:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:15] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:15] <DL1SGP> and back
[19:18] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:27] <lz1dev_> hmm
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[19:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:30] <pc1pcl> lz1dev_: new bug or old friend?
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[19:31] <lz1dev_> pc1pcl: old one
[19:31] <lz1dev_> not sure why it happens
[19:31] <lz1dev_> usually when i start looking for it
[19:31] <lz1dev_> it stops happening
[19:31] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:32] <pc1pcl> heisenbugs...
[19:32] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:39] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[19:39] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
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[19:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:48] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[19:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03N4XWC-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[20:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EDUPIC_Alt1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=EDUPIC_Alt1
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[20:33] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-38 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS-38
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[21:33] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK6PUZ-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK6PUZ-1
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[22:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_SKY_PLUS after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PI_SKY_PLUS
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[22:38] <li4m0> Anybody know what the thick red lines represent on the habhub tracker
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[22:46] <chrisstubbs> li4m0, path?
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[22:46] <li4m0> Don't think so, was just looking at the pi in the sky plus above
[22:49] <jededu> mmmm very odd
[22:50] <li4m0> Yeh the line shoots up towards Bradford then down to daves
[22:51] <li4m0> But also then off towards Norway
[22:51] <Geoff-G8DHE> I think you will find its just the great circle track between two points that were "reported" from it into the tracker! Not to be believed I suggest ;-)
[22:51] <jededu> It would make sense if it was daveake then upu then croydon but australia ?
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[22:52] <Geoff-G8DHE> Especially as the reporting station uses a Polish callsign ...
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[22:52] <jededu> Yes somone diddnt change the callsign
[22:52] <Upu> its just peopple using the default call sign
[22:52] <jededu> lol
[22:52] <li4m0> Ha ok
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[22:53] <Upu> me testing dave testing then others it seems :)
[22:54] <jededu> li4m0 have you got anywhere with your tracker ?
[22:55] <li4m0> Yeh I have kind of gone off on a tangent. I picked up 4 rfm69 modules
[22:55] <li4m0> And have been creating sensor nodes and all sorts around the house. Highly addictive
[22:55] <jededu> Ahh ok :)
[22:56] <li4m0> But I'm still on it. I've got another project as well I need to sort
[22:56] <li4m0> Which involves putting a tracker into a sat nav which will then hopefully get nicked
[22:57] <li4m0> We have a covert vehicle but the trackers supplied by the company aren't the best
[22:58] <li4m0> Someone nicked one the other day. We identified the offender on camera but he sold the sat nav quick and the battery died so we lost it
[22:58] <jededu> GSM tracker?
[22:59] <li4m0> The company supply a gps tracker which we then set a geofence around using a web app. This sends a text to us from the Web app
[23:00] <li4m0> They even charge us for sms credits so I want to make my own gsm/gps tracker
[23:00] <jededu> I made one for cycles fits in the head tube
[23:01] <li4m0> Yeh we got a few bikes with them under the seat
[23:01] <jededu> Completly hidden the ant looks like the nut cap
[23:02] <li4m0> Ha cool. My road bike never leaves my side when outside :-)
[23:04] <li4m0> Would be nice to incorporate a radio tracker as well to help pinpoint location. I've got a loads of dummy sat navs
[23:06] <jededu> At 10mw the range would be limited on the ground
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[23:07] <li4m0> Yeh I was thinking if I can get a rough location with gps module then move in stealth with the laptop/magmount ant
[23:07] <li4m0> Maybe using the higher power rfm69hw
[23:08] <mikestir> jededu: you say that, but I did some ground trials with <10mW using dominoex and olivia and it was receivable over several miles from a car
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[23:09] <li4m0> To be fair i have found the rfm69w to have decent range even without an antenna on my receiver end
[23:10] <jededu> mikestir cool never tried MFSK mode over ground
[23:10] <jededu> modes
[23:10] <mikestir> I found domex to be very badly affected by doppler even at <30mph
[23:10] <mikestir> olivia was much better in that respect
[23:15] <lz1dev> jededu: li4m0 if you want endless power, put into the pedals :)
[23:15] <li4m0> Ha yeh
[23:16] <li4m0> Ideally I need a good 24 hours on the sat nav tracker
[23:16] <jededu> :)
[23:17] <li4m0> I take it you ride as well jededu?
[23:18] <lz1dev> ideally you want it to wake up occasionally to check, and if its on the move, more often
[23:18] <jededu> Yes DH and Enduro
[23:18] <mikestir> li4m0: why not power the tracker off the sat nav battery if it's mounted internally? that will get around the problem of it running out since the new "owner" will be recharging it for syou
[23:18] <mikestir> yoU*
[23:19] <li4m0> Nice one jededu
[23:19] <li4m0> The sat navs are dummys
[23:20] <li4m0> But I think I may have some old tomtom go 300s that I could do that on if there is room in the back
[23:21] <li4m0> The trackers we have at the moment do exactly that in theory
[23:21] <mikestir> tbh it's not a hard problem to solve even for quite long sleep times. as you mentioned, you can use something like an accelerometer to detect movement, wake up and get a gps fix
[23:21] <li4m0> However they seem to keep going into some kind of sleep mode once battery is flat and then recharged, they fail to wake up
[23:22] <li4m0> Yeh that would be a good idea
[23:23] <mikestir> and I'd use gprs for the comms if it's going to be in a populated area
[23:24] <jededu> My tracker uses a tilt switch to activate sends position only when its moving and sleeps at 70uA
[23:27] <li4m0> Something like that would be interesting. A lot of our stolen sat navs end up in shops where they might not move for a while
[23:28] <li4m0> Or with taxi drivers who seem to always be up for a bargain
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[23:43] <jededu> mmm so if it has no gps lock it switches to radio tx because its indoors but you know the last gps position so could get close
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[23:46] <li4m0> Yeh that would be the plan. Coupled with a loud piezo buzzer maybe :-)
[23:51] <li4m0> Right time for bed. Thanks eveyone
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