highaltitude.log.20150131

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[00:05] <paul_HAB-P> Trying to listen to VHF on my Nooelec dongle but there is oodles of noise - should I be thinking about some kind of preamp / filter?
[00:05] <fsphil> preamp would probably make it worse. filter might help though
[00:05] <fsphil> depends on the nature of the noise
[00:06] <paul_HAB-P> http://gravitywell.no-ip.org/web/radioSurveys/CBband_1.jpg
[00:07] <paul_HAB-P> been playing with surveys! Found some doppler earlier :)
[00:08] <paul_HAB-P> doppler in here: http://gravitywell.no-ip.org/web/radioSurveys/localRepeaters.jpg
[00:08] <fsphil> filters are great for out of band noise that might be overloading the receiver
[00:08] <paul_HAB-P> Excellent - time to start researching filters!
[00:08] <fsphil> they won't help if the noise is within their range
[00:09] <paul_HAB-P> Makes sense, I guess you need to get directional at that point?
[00:09] <fsphil> directional or distance
[00:10] <fsphil> directional probably won't help much against very strong signals either
[00:11] <paul_HAB-P> got it.
[00:11] <paul_HAB-P> Ah well - its great fun surveying and I'm learning piles...
[00:12] <Flerb> chrisstubbs: how did you do the resistors?
[00:12] <Flerb> Given they all have different color codes
[00:12] <Flerb> cant find one for 0603s
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[00:14] <chrisstubbs> Find one resistor
[00:14] <chrisstubbs> duplicate
[00:14] <chrisstubbs> replace colours
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[00:19] <paul_HAB-P> ty all
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[04:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ATSAT-1 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=ATSAT-1
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[07:43] <jededu> EDUPIC12 launch is delayed, the predictor puts it too close to BHX airport If it is going to go up it will be around 13:00 from south west wales
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[10:58] <infaddict> hi everybody. building my yagi kit. is it correct that the directors actually have a connection to the beam due to the bolts used to connect them?
[10:59] <infaddict> they have a plastic holder that prevents most of the director touching the beam, but by using bolt/hex nut there will be a connection between them
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[11:02] <infaddict> See example of what i mean here (not my model but similar): https://yo4hhp.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/uhf_yagi_4el_2.jpg
[11:02] <infaddict> notice the bolts through the elements
[11:03] <infaddict> it may be fine (as per instructions) but wanted to check
[11:03] <pc1pcl> depends on the design, although I think usually you want to isolate the elements from the beam.
[11:04] <infaddict> hi pc1pc1 yer thats what i thought. so dont understand why the design means the top of the bolt touches the top of element, then under the beam the nut tightens and touches the beam, thus making connection
[11:04] <pc1pcl> but it could be that for this design they need to be (electircally) connected to the beam, and the holder is just made of plastic becasue easier to shape so it fits.
[11:05] <pc1pcl> so if the instructions make it (more or less) clear that there will be a conenction, just make it that way...
[11:05] <pc1pcl> If you end up with a couple of plastic rings etc left over at the end..
[11:06] <infaddict> ha! yep checked the part list and no plastic rings ;-)
[11:06] <infaddict> i think it must be a deliberate design
[11:09] <pc1pcl> yeah, probably it doesn't matter too much as the bolts go exactly through the middle of each element
[11:11] <pc1pcl> should be a current maximum and potential minimum.
[11:12] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Electrical connection or not makes no difference for the parasitic elements (reflectors/directors)
[11:12] <infaddict> aha did not know that Geoff
[11:12] <infaddict> the driven element/radiator does NOT touch the beam
[11:13] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> They work by picking up the signal and re-transmitting it, but because of the different lengths there is a phase shift which is what causes the shaping of the beam
[11:13] <infaddict> however the coax socket is grounded to the beam with the coax shield grounding to it
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[11:14] <infaddict> i am saying beam but mean boom, sry
[11:14] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Yes the driven element needs to be connected as shown, the earthing points and connections are ALL important
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[11:16] <infaddict> is the left and right orientation important when connecting coax to the driven element
[11:17] <pc1pcl> whole thing should be symmetrical/balanced anyway, so 'after' the balun (in the box) it shouldn't matter.
[11:18] <infaddict> yer its after the balun. pics show 1 connection to left side of driven element, 1 connection to right. so it shouldnt matter then. thx
[11:18] <infaddict> like this http://www.dl5up.de/Grafik/DK7ZB/PIC00957.JPG
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[11:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> left/right oreintation shouldn't matter but all things need to be reversed if you do balun's etc
[11:19] <pc1pcl> if you hold it upside down, it would work the same way
[11:20] <infaddict> Geoff what do you mean by "all things need to be reversed" please?
[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Is there a diagram of the feed and balun rather than a pictyure ?
[11:20] <pc1pcl> in that last picture it looks more like a 'choke' coil
[11:20] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> I'm being careful, without at that point having seen the picture or a diagram
[11:21] <infaddict> ok let me find actual examples guys, i may be calling it a balun and its not. its 50ohm so just 5-7 wraps around a pipe.
[11:21] <infaddict> apologies i'm new to all this lark ;-)
[11:21] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> to be honest all the matching arrangments are over the top of Receive only,
[11:22] <infaddict> http://www.nuxcom.de/pdf/nuxcom_construction-manual-2-70.pdf
[11:22] <infaddict> that is the build guide
[11:22] <infaddict> i have the 50ohm version so ignorning bits specific to 28ohm
[11:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> its when transmitting and the power isn't being radiated that problems appear as that eneergy will appear as high voltage/currents and heat
[11:22] <infaddict> on page 2 is picture of connection box
[11:23] <infaddict> Choke for 50 Ohm design yagis
[11:23] <infaddict> Because 50 ohm design antennas do not need a transformation, they can be fed with a simple coil
[11:23] <infaddict> containing 5-7 windings of 50 ohm coax cable (RG188 PTFE cable is delivered) on a 16mm PVC tube.
[11:23] <infaddict> ^^^ Quote
[11:24] <pc1pcl> idea of the choke is to prevent current on the outside of your coax shield.
[11:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> Ah its twin co-ax, yes its is a Balun and the impeadance of the cable is critical whe it comes to transmit, also the length of the two must be identical
[11:24] <pc1pcl> as from the picture it looks like both halves of the driven element are exactly the same just mirrored, it shouldn't matter if the left or right one goes to the 'shield' of the choke
[11:24] <DrLuke> Does anybody know which bytes of an ax.25 packet have to be included in the crc calculations?
[11:25] <infaddict> yes pc1pc1 they are identical in length and connection either side
[11:25] <infaddict> just wasnt sure which one to connection to shield versus core of the choke
[11:26] <infaddict> sounds like you guys believe it doesnt matter
[11:26] <pc1pcl> just make sure the center connector of the choke goes to the center of the coax connector, but you'd probably do that 'by default'.
[11:27] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> On receive it won't make any real difference, its only when there is a lot of power floating around that the heat can cause the plastic to soften and then all sorts of problems ensue!
[11:27] <infaddict> yep absolutely. so centre of coax connector to centre of choke. outside of coax connector to shield of choke. then choke centre and choke shield to radiator L&R.
[11:27] <pc1pcl> http://forums.parallax.com/archive/index.php/t-125684.html <-- on ax.25 checksumming, I think.
[11:27] <infaddict> ok thanks Geoff. may never transmit with it, but be nice to not melt it if i ever do!
[11:28] <infaddict> i dont even own a transmittor so hard to test that i guess
[11:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The problem starts that at every impeadance mismatch
[11:29] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> power is reflected backwards
[11:29] <pc1pcl> you might have a transmitter without realising it (car remote, weather station outdoor unit, wireless doorbell), but yeah, you probably wouldn't connect those to the yagi anyway :)
[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> this on a transmitter can cause the power stages to get upset
[11:30] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> they expect to produce power not absorb it
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[11:31] <infaddict> ok great advice as ever guys. will crack on assembling it today. still waiting for most goodies arriving from HK so will be a few weeks before I can continue.
[11:31] <pc1pcl> for listening it just means the whole antenna system is a little less effective but shouldn't be a real issue as more than compensated by the increased gain, unless you really do your best on actively messing it up :)
[11:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> high voltages or currents occur and if that happens at the active device in the Tx is where problems will cause the Tx t shut down or pop the active device.
[11:31] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> if the device doesn't pop, then the power will get reflected back up the aerial again which is ok
[11:32] <infaddict> right, guessing you could measure the voltage/current somehow?
[11:32] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> if the high currents voltage occur within the balun/co-ax then heat can d nasty things but you need to be running a LOT of power 50+ watts I would suggest
[11:33] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> there are devices for doing the measuring yes called SWR Standing Wave Ratio meters or directional power meters
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[11:35] <pc1pcl> also, antenna analyser can be used to figure out if your antenna is a good enough match or you need to adjust the antenna or add some sort of compensating circuit to 'transform' the impedance.
[11:36] <infaddict> ok i dont have such a device so will simply have to build to spec best i can then test it out when my receiver/amp arrives!
[11:36] <infaddict> guess testing approach is to goto a big field and see if it picks up the payload
[11:37] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> It will work fine, its quite difficult to mess up an aerial,other than leaving shads of the co-ax outer lying around like hair!
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[11:50] <Flerb> Upu: do you know if the pullup needed for those temperature sensors is different with 3.3v as opposed to 5?
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[11:53] <alxwntr> Hello all
[11:53] <alxwntr> May I ask about an apparent interference problem?
[11:53] <alxwntr> It's driving me nuts
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[11:54] <alxwntr> I have my GPS breakout board and the NTX2B connected to my arduino on a breadboard
[11:54] <alxwntr> Both work superbly on their own
[11:55] <alxwntr> but together they just refuse
[11:55] <alxwntr> (it seems)
[11:55] <alxwntr> when I listen to the radio, the RTTY tone is affected by the GPS working
[11:55] <alxwntr> but I was wondering if this was a common problem
[11:56] <alxwntr> and what I could do about it
[11:56] <alxwntr> I know breadboards are notoriously noisy, but this seems mad
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[12:09] <Upu> using software serial on the GPS alxwntr ?
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[12:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03K0843823 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=K0843823
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[12:31] <Darkside> K0843823.. sounds like the serial number of a vaisala radiosonde
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[12:32] <Darkside> yup, sur eis
[12:32] <Darkside> 402.7MHz
[12:32] <lz1dev> sounds like i need to update the sonder ignoring agorithm
[12:33] <Darkside> how do you mean?
[12:33] <lz1dev> aprs importer ignores aprs sondes
[12:33] <Laurenceb__> http://www.pixart.com.tw/product_data.asp?product_id=91&productclassify_id=11&productclassify2_id=33
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[12:34] <Darkside> lz1dev: ah
[12:35] <Darkside> lz1dev: depends ow the sondes are pushed to APRS i guess
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[12:35] <Darkside> a few scripts push them through with the serial number as the callsign, others give it the callsign of the operator running the script
[12:35] <Darkside> would be difficult to pick those out
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[12:37] <HF_ATL> APRS on 144.8 for K0843823?
[12:38] <Darkside> no
[12:38] <Darkside> its a radiosonde
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[12:38] <Darkside> someone is receiving it using sondemonitor, and pushing the position into the APRS network
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[12:39] <Darkside> which is then getting picked up by lz1dev's scripts and pushed into habitat
[12:39] <HF_ATL> ah got it
[12:41] <lz1dev> !aprs list-bal 3
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Recent balloons: K0843823, SP6VWX-11, PU3XGS-11, OE1FFS-11, PU5WRF-11, BV5AB-11, OK1LPD-11, SQ5AZK, PY3JRT-11, PU5PBT-11, SV1BYK-7, CS7ACM-11, DH1BBO, ATSAT-1, DB1OFH-3, CT2KAZ-11, SQ5NWI-14, EA3IK-11, ED1ZAR-11, SP5MG-11
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Recent balloons: SQ1FTK-11, EA5DOM-11
[12:41] <lz1dev> ^ 99% sondes
[12:45] <lz1dev> !aprs info atsat-1
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03ATSAT-1 is near 03Imperial County, CA, USA 10(33.03518,-115.94019) at 030 meters - 12http://aprs.fi/info/ATSAT-1
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Path: 03ATSAT-1>APRS via 03WIDE2-1,qAR,KD6DCN-5
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Symbol: 03O/ Speed: 0353kmph Course: 03136°
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Comment: 03NFWA->"2U
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Telemetry: 03Main 101.352 V 03Aux 100 V 03Temp 10-52.1 C 03Sat 108 # 03Alt 100 ft
[12:45] <theRealSIbot1> In real units: 0 ft = 0.00 m
[12:45] <lz1dev> thx for that conversion
[12:45] <lz1dev> tmp -52C
[12:45] <lz1dev> alt 0
[12:45] <lz1dev> ok..
[12:47] <lz1dev> !ping atsat-1
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03ATSAT-1 was 03a minute ago
[12:47] <lz1dev> !track atsat-1
[12:47] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Here you go - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=atsat-1
[12:48] <lz1dev> i wonder how they achieved that bug with the altitude
[12:57] <mattbrejza> !flights
[12:57] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Current flights: 03Sazs big question 2 10(2f43), 03EDUPIC12 10(abc8), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe)
[12:57] <lz1dev> b-64 feels
[12:58] <lz1dev> i cri evrtim
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[13:44] <infaddict> any idea if i need a pull up resistor to use I2C to talk to ublox m8c GPS and my arduino?
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[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03BUZZ after 03a day silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=BUZZ
[13:52] <infaddict> aha just found a webpage that says for only 1 i2c device, the mega328 has the pull up resistors built in. i will check GPS datasheet to be sure.
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[14:00] <Laurenceb__> has anyone every tried using something like this for 434mhz?
[14:00] <Laurenceb__> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LABGEAR-AERIAL-YAGI-GT-STANDARD-GAIN-/271621465478?pt=UK_ConElec_TVAerials_RL&hash=item3f3de6a586
[14:00] <Laurenceb__> its supposed to go down to 470mhz
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[14:23] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> The TV bands are higher than 434MHz so the elements are shorter than required for best performance.
[14:24] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> However they can be cut down for 1.3GHz working and the spacing played with for good results!
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[14:25] <Geoff-G8DHE-M> No sign od EDUPIC so I guess jededu won't be flying today ?
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[14:34] <infaddict> Found that the uBlox M8C does indeed have built in pull up resistors on its SDA/SDC for I2C. One less thing to worry about!
[14:38] <Vaizki> Why are you using C model btw?
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[14:39] <Reb-SM0U1C> Laurenceb__: for 860 mhz it coukd be used also, if cut down a bit
[14:40] <Vaizki> Yagi tuning see
[14:40] <Vaizki> Seems to be black magic
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[14:41] <infaddict> Vaizki, i went for this unit from habsupplies: http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60&product_id=52
[14:41] <Laurenceb__> interesting, thanks
[14:50] <Vaizki> I went for http://ava.upuaut.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60&product_id=51
[14:52] <infaddict> yep v similar i think, different antennas clearly
[14:53] <tweetBot> @AMSAT_UK: Slides on the SUWS WebSDR covers 144 and 432 bands for satellites and #UKHAS balloons http://t.co/InJXtKiSCM #amsat #hamradio #hamr
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[14:54] <Vaizki> LNA and filter on my module, probably not really necessary though
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[14:58] <infaddict> Vaizki - have u decided which dynamic platform to set? 3 airborne mode depending on max speed. guessing 1st mode is best as < 100 metres per second.
[14:58] <infaddict> i think balloons go up about 5/ms but not sure about parachute downward speed
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[15:06] <Vaizki> well if it's coming down at 100m/s you have nothing to recover anyway :)
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[15:06] <Vaizki> and no I have not looked at dynamic platforms
[15:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[15:07] <infaddict> ha true! the uBlox docs are VERY detailed and around 400 pages in total across the pdf's!
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[15:09] <infaddict> seems a big decision in design is how often to poll for GPS info.
[15:09] <HF_ATL> speaking about ublox, what's the differences between max-m8c and max-m8q?
[15:10] <Vaizki> c runs at 1.8V, q runs at 3.3V, q has txco and c doesn't..
[15:10] <Vaizki> don't know much but that's what I know so far :)
[15:10] <infaddict> we were just discussing that HF_ATL... here's the summary sheet https://u-blox.com/images/downloads/Product_Docs/MAX-M8_ProductSummary_(UBX-13004508).pdf
[15:11] <infaddict> the C can use anything between 1.65V to 3.6V
[15:11] <infaddict> the Q is 2.7V to 3.6V
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[15:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KK4ETE-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KK4ETE-11
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[15:28] <Ian_> Flerb, same 4k7 pullup for 5v or 3.3V is just fine.
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[16:38] <SA6BSS-Mike> next evolutionary step in the pits armada ?? :) http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Remote-wireless-module-SI4463-433M-Super-Si4432-class-CC1101-NRF905-SX1212/2050650573.html
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[16:43] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The LoRa board is already complete for the RPi http://www.daveakerman.com/
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[17:14] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[17:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD8SVI-12 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8SVI-12
[17:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KD8CJT-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KD8CJT-11
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[18:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK-11
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[18:10] <mclane_> Hello upu - can I ask a quick question? - I have seen your LoRa gteway board on dave's website
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[18:10] <mclane_> which DIOs from the RFM98 are you connecting to the pi and for which purpose?
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[18:12] <craag> iirc just DIO0 on the version I got for packet rx interrupt
[18:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=WB8ELK
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[18:27] <diegoesep> dio0 and dio5 in my case
[18:27] <diegoesep> for tx done
[18:28] <diegoesep> mclane_, dio0 for rx and dio5 for tx done
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[18:28] <daveake> I connect DIO0 and 5, but my gateway code currently doesn't use DIO5
[18:29] <daveake> tracker code does, and the gateway code will soon
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[18:31] <mclane_> can you do standard rtty (like with the RFM22) with the pi?
[18:31] <mclane_> (as a backup)
[18:32] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03W5NAC-11 after 034 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=W5NAC-11
[18:33] <diegoesep> the lora chip is able to do FSK
[18:33] <diegoesep> but with the FIFO the bitrate are limited compared to RTTY bitrate
[18:33] <mclane_> yea, but not 50 baud
[18:33] <mclane_> (I think)
[18:34] <diegoesep> there is a possibility to bypass the FIFO with LoRa and directly drive the bits of fsk at lower bitrate
[18:34] <diegoesep> but I have never tested it
[18:35] <diegoesep> yes mclane_ 50 baud is not enabled with FSK using the FIFO mode
[18:37] <diegoesep> there is the second mode: continuous data transmit mode
[18:37] <diegoesep> via DIO2 for data and DIO1 for clock
[18:38] <diegoesep> DIO1 is needed only if using (G)FSK
[18:39] <diegoesep> so in theory it is possible to do 50 bauds FSK with continuous data transmit mode
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[18:40] <mclane_> ok thanks - I will have to study the datasheet (which is sometimes confusing...)
[18:41] <diegoesep> please let me know if you have success with RTTY and LoRa chip :)
[18:43] <mclane_> will take some time - but I will report
[18:44] <mclane_> need to drop out now
[18:44] <diegoesep> ok :)
[18:44] <mclane_> bye!
[18:44] <diegoesep> bye
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[19:31] <Vaizki> interesting.. I was looking at the same thing myself, that the HopeRF LoRa could do 2000 baud RTTY out of the box but might be coaxed into a "passthrough" transmit mode as well
[19:32] <mattbrejza> passthrough?
[19:32] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Stuart did RTTY +LoRa on his flight details here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ukhas/EG7bVOERI90 read the whole thread as he gives details for some of the register settings later on.
[19:33] <mattbrejza> yea, there are in fact three ways of doing rtty 50baud
[19:33] <mattbrejza> the one which stuart does contradicts itself in the datasheet thoigh :/
[19:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KJ4TDM-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KJ4TDM-1
[19:34] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Not having played myself I can't confirm that one way or the other :-) But I reckon most datasheets contradict themselves on occasions ;-)
[19:41] Action: Laurenceb__ is working on si446x based RTTY and uplink
[19:41] <Laurenceb__> using direct mode with uart tx pin
[19:41] <craag> RFM98 also does a direct mode
[19:42] <craag> can't remember which pin otomh
[19:42] <Laurenceb__> i have a bigger challenge first
[19:42] <Laurenceb__> getting my airspy to run
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[19:43] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N4XWC-1 after 037 days silence - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=N4XWC-1
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[20:10] <arko> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/31/solar-tetroon-spooks-albuquerque/#comments
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[20:37] <Piet0r> Laurenceb__: You're having issues with the airspy?
[20:37] <Piet0r> I'm thinking about buying one
[20:38] <Piet0r> But if you're having issues I would like to know about that
[20:38] <mattbrejza> on linux
[20:38] <Laurenceb__> its a pita to get it running on linux
[20:38] <Laurenceb__> yeah
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[20:39] <Piet0r> hmm :/
[20:39] <Piet0r> I'm running Ubuntu on my machines
[20:41] <Laurenceb__> which version?
[20:42] <Piet0r> 14.04 LTS
[20:43] <Laurenceb__> ah it should be possible ot build from source
[20:43] <Piet0r> So just compile the kernel module?
[20:45] <Piet0r> http://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/utopic/universe/airspy/
[20:45] <Piet0r> Are you sure it's a pita?
[20:46] <Laurenceb__> yeah that was an old version that didnt work properly for me
[20:47] <Laurenceb__> i had to compile airspy-host from github
[20:47] <Laurenceb__> then compile latest gqrx
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[20:56] <Piet0r> I am looking for a car radio
[20:57] <Piet0r> For my car .. obviously
[20:57] <Piet0r> One that also has a two way radio build in
[20:57] <Piet0r> UHF
[20:58] <Laurenceb__> im no radio expert, sorry
[20:59] <Laurenceb__> I'm only slightly familiar with HAB related stuff
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[21:12] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Piet0r that will not be easy to find, ive only seen a CB/BC once a long time ago
[21:13] <OZ1SKY_Brian> when you say UHF, do you mean 70cm fm or ssb or do you mean pmr ?
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[21:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=PS
[21:30] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YT-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=VK3YT-11
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[23:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KG7IXX-11 - 12http://tracker.habhub.org/#!qm=All&q=KG7IXX-11
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[23:08] <burko> what's happened to PS? long time since last contact >30 mins
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[23:18] <anerdev> hey guys =D
[23:23] <anerdev> anyone ?
[23:26] <burko> hey anerdev
[23:26] <anerdev> how are you burko ? :)
[23:26] <burko> yeah not bad. u?
[23:26] <anerdev> it's all ok .. :) thank you
[23:26] <anerdev> so
[23:27] <anerdev> know you the habhub tracker ?
[23:27] <burko> ?
[23:29] <burko> you are from italy? I am guessing that is the reason i don't understand your question :) Although we will do better in english than if i were to try italian...
[23:36] <anerdev> yes, I'm italian ...
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