highaltitude.log.20150113

[00:00] <Laurenceb_> or more likely to 20pF capacitance everywhere
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[00:09] <lz1dev_> http://i.imgur.com/lyOtJVH.gifv
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[00:15] <adamgreig> hehe
[00:15] <adamgreig> https://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowshardware/Toaster-7d256224
[00:15] <adamgreig> http://superuser.com/questions/792607/why-does-windows-think-that-my-wireless-keyboard-is-a-toaster etc
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[00:18] <paul_HAB-P> Wonder if White Knight will ever be used as a launch platform...
[00:18] <lz1dev_> excellent
[00:20] <paul_HAB-P> I mean to get payloads into orbit.
[00:22] <mbales__> i dunno about orbit, sub orbital trajectory definitely
[00:23] <mbales__> theres another project using a commercial plane to launch small rockets / satellites into orbit
[00:23] <mfa298> I see your toaster oven and raise you the Olympia Rocketship in particular slices 7-10 http://www.d1.dion.ne.jp/~r_high/memorial/rocketship.html
[00:24] <mbales__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_%28rocket%29
[00:24] <mfa298> better images http://www.john-ward.org.uk/personal/john/computers/html/rocket.html
[00:25] <mbales__> wow that pretty super
[00:26] <Laurenceb_> heh RISC OS
[00:27] <mfa298> an (ancient) ascestor of the Pi and lots of mobile phones :)
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[00:31] <DL7AD> mbales__ Upu: http://dl7ad.de/femto21_back.jpg http://dl7ad.de/femto21_front.jpg https://twitter.com/project_hab/status/500567144762200064
[00:32] <DL7AD> mbales__ Upu: Sorry for my delay
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[00:34] <mbales__> & i dont have words for how small that is
[00:34] <qyx_> weirdly shaped battery
[00:34] <qyx_> like D-cell
[00:35] <DL7AD> mbales__: i recently got it to work. i still have some error one the pcb
[00:36] <mbales__> and thats the transmitter, gps, and mcu on that board?
[00:36] <mbales__> as well as power regulation?
[00:37] <qyx_> what mcu is that?
[00:39] <DL7AD> its an LPC1114 32bit ARM MCU
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[00:40] <mbales__> wow
[00:41] <DL7AD> mbales__: it consumes about 1.4mA @12MHz
[00:41] <mbales__> is that a 2 or 4 layer board?
[00:41] <DL7AD> 4 :D i wouldnt be able to do this on a 2layer board
[00:42] <mbales__> haha yeah i figured as much, but you never know
[00:42] <mbales__> i gotta head out but amazing work, youve given me a new goal to beat with my board design
[00:43] <DL7AD> mbales__: yeah. the only thing is. it does not support solar. just single batteries
[00:44] <DL7AD> i reduced so many components on my origional board
[00:44] <DL7AD> *from
[00:44] <Laurenceb_> nice work
[00:44] <Laurenceb_> what frequency/ transmitter ic ?
[00:45] <DL7AD> mbales__: whats the big chip on your one?
[00:45] <DL7AD> Laurenceb_: Si4464 or Si4063 whatever you want
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[00:45] <Laurenceb_> ah
[00:45] <DL7AD> can do 70cm or 2m with the right LPF seetings
[00:46] <Laurenceb_> whats the board weight?
[00:46] <Laurenceb_> is it batter only, or battery + solar?
[00:46] <DL7AD> ehm i cant remember. i soldered cables on it for programming so i cant measure it. but it was something around 1.6g
[00:47] <Laurenceb_> nice
[00:47] <DL7AD> Laurenceb_: just battery: 0.7 - 3.6V
[00:47] <Laurenceb_> i see
[00:47] <DL7AD> runs on 2.0V Vcc
[00:47] <Laurenceb_> yeah we need a battery solution that works at low temperature
[00:48] Action: Laurenceb_ was working on infrared power
[00:48] <DL7AD> but i recently build some new incredible solar trackers with thomas KT5TK: https://kt5tk.wordpress.com/2014/10/24/pecan-pico-5a-complete-assembly/
[00:49] <DL7AD> Laurenceb_: are there materials available which can absorb IR?
[00:49] <Laurenceb_> yeah, carbon black
[00:49] <DL7AD> does it really work at night?
[00:49] <Laurenceb_> it works in simulations...
[00:50] <DL7AD> okay.
[00:50] <Laurenceb_> I've managed to get about 1mW/gram for an infrared collector
[00:50] <Laurenceb_> two sheets of graphene with aerogel in the middle
[00:50] <Laurenceb_> then a mini peltier between the two
[00:51] <DL7AD> oh
[00:51] <Laurenceb_> http://uk.mouser.com/new/panasonic/panasonicthermalgraphite/
[00:51] <DL7AD> i thought about putting a layer on a battery to keep it warm
[00:52] <Laurenceb_> and
[00:52] <Laurenceb_> http://www.buyaerogel.com/product/spaceloft/
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[00:54] <DL7AD_> Laurenceb_: that should help keeping a lipo above 0C at night (dont know if this is even possible)
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[02:12] <SpeedEvil> I note that my 5l thermos leaks 4W at 100C delta.
[02:21] <Myself> that's an interesting thing to know.
[02:21] <Myself> I'm still gobsmacked that, three weeks after the halloween party, at which we used a whole pile of LN2, there was still some in the bottom of the dewar. Something to be said for vacuum and layers of radiant barrier..
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[02:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Giant-Action-Airpot-litre-capacity/dp/B001MX9D6G
[02:34] <SpeedEvil> - I'm adding it as a mini solar-PV thermal store
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[06:11] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-30 after 0310 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=PS-30
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[06:49] <Darkside> ooh
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[07:37] <Ian_> Hey Darkside, Leo hasn't been visiting Melbourne recently to the best of your knowledge? :) Who is the owner of PS-30, which seems to be doing OK for a 36" Qualatex jobbie !!
[07:37] <Ian_> s/!!/??
[07:38] <malclocke> http://picospace.net/
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[07:46] <edmoore> the qualatex balloons were able to get a couple of weeks+ in decent conditions
[07:47] <edmoore> the big advantage of going higher is that you're above weather and above the tropopause which puts you in a more thermally stable region from a bouyancy pov
[07:47] <edmoore> but if you're in a hemisphere where it's summer and there's not too much weather, you in theory can stay more or less undisturbed at lower alts
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[08:08] <Ian_> It's been in the 9km to 13km floating slot was very good to Leo and nice to see Continental Africa (is there any other sort?) based stations on the UKHAS receivers plot..
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[08:12] <edmoore> madagascar?
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[08:17] <storm_> hi guys, I keep hearing about the 2015 UKHAS conference, is there any collection of slides from past conferences?
[08:17] <fsphil> there are videos
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[08:18] <fsphil> somewhere
[08:18] <storm_> I know some on youtube...
[08:18] <fsphil> oh that's no fun zeusbot
[08:19] <UpuWork> http://ukhas.org.uk/general:conferences
[08:19] <fsphil> there's been four?! sheesh
[08:19] <UpuWork> I know..
[08:19] <edmoore> crazy huh?
[08:20] <edmoore> i recommend the one from the first conference about testing parachutes for a mars lander with a hab
[08:20] <storm_> thanks Upu
[08:20] <edmoore> that's my objective and unboased recommendation
[08:20] <edmoore> with nothing to declare
[08:20] <edmoore> unbiased*
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[08:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Paul HAB-P_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=Paul%20HAB-P_chase
[08:30] <edmoore> also storm_ on the 2011 videos the 'alternative' video links are almost all much better quality
[08:30] <edmoore> phil with an hd cameras as opposed to captures livestream
[08:33] <fsphil> poorer audio sadly. should take some time and take the audio from upu's videos
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[08:54] <lz1dev> PS-30 bringing some hab to south africa ? :D
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[09:22] <fsphil> paul_HAB-P: http://hackaday.com/2015/01/13/using-librtlsdr-over-tcp/
[09:23] <fsphil> bit of an odd way of doing it
[09:23] <paul_HAB-P> thanks fsphil!
[09:26] <paul_HAB-P> I've ordered another DVBT stick to see if the one I got was just rubbish.
[09:31] <paul_HAB-P> Not sure I see the benefit of his approach over RTL_TCP though...
[09:31] <fsphil> yea it's unusual
[09:32] <paul_HAB-P> I was going to have a look/see if I flac a raw stream in node.js - think it would stop all of my bandwidth problems...
[09:33] <paul_HAB-P> then I could simply take the output of GQRX push it through node onto anywhere
[09:34] <paul_HAB-P> I'm so stupid. aplay could probably do that directly.
[09:34] <paul_HAB-P> Then a bit of node to host the controls for GQRX (e.g. have node telnetting in and setting freqs etc)
[09:35] <fsphil> flac got me about 35% reduction on raw iq wav files
[09:37] <fsphil> just tried another sample and it got a 57% reduction. nice
[09:37] <paul_HAB-P> nice :-) - you using ffmpeg?
[09:37] <fsphil> nah, flac
[09:38] <paul_HAB-P> duh
[09:38] <fsphil> with --best flag
[09:39] <paul_HAB-P> something like: GQRX > Local port. Local Port | flac | remote port ?
[09:39] <fsphil> not sure how flac would fit into it
[09:41] <mfa298> paul_HAB-P: depending on your coding ability someone started an opensource websdr about 18 months ago http://www.mike-stirling.com/redmine/projects/webradio
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[09:42] <paul_HAB-P> mfa298: Oh yes - that looks worth a play :-)
[09:45] <mfa298> im not sure how finished it was but I think basic ssb functionality worked
[09:46] <paul_HAB-P> I'll give it a whirl :)
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[10:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03vk6mt_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=vk6mt_chase
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[10:35] <paul_HAB-P> Stupid question: How do I query the serial of my RTL dongle?
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[10:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> It shows up in the ZDIAG driver installer or if you run SDR-Console its shown
[10:58] <Laurenceb> is VK3YT ever around on here?
[10:58] <Laurenceb> id be interested in more info on PS-30 construction
[10:58] <Geoff-G8DHE> quite a few have a serial#0 which causes problems when trying to get more than one dongle to run
[10:59] <db_g6gzh> paul_HAB-P: You'll probably have to set the serial number yourself using rtl_eeprom (mine all came as serial 00000001)
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[11:00] <paul_HAB-P> thank db_g6gzh
[11:06] <Laurenceb> I guess he may well be asleep atm :P
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[11:19] <paul_HAB-P> thanks Geoff..
[11:22] <paul_HAB-P> So, if you run sdr_eeprom -d 0, it gives you the serial :-)
[11:32] <paul_HAB-P> damn. wanted to do range testing today but I've locked myself out of O2 account for the sim in my fona board lol
[11:33] <fsphil> d'oh
[11:34] <paul_HAB-P> happens. annoys me that I've sent about 5 texts and my £10 credit has timed out. need to tap up a mate for an M2M sim.
[11:35] <paul_HAB-P> u know all i've had out of this rtl dongle is static. I think it's junk.
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[11:37] <fsphil> sounds like it. you should at least be hearing broadcast fm
[11:37] <paul_HAB-P> yeah i've ordered another one but with the E4000 chipset this time...
[11:37] <fsphil> with a small antenna on mine I can see the FM stations, and the DVB freeview signals
[11:37] <fsphil> and the odd pilot
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[12:17] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BUZZ - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=BUZZ
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[13:32] <Mark_B> Afternoon
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[13:34] <Mark_B> Has anyone here used the BOC Genie gas bottles? Good experiences or, otherwise?
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[13:39] <daveake> Interesting. The do them for hydrogen too.
[13:39] <daveake> they
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[13:40] <Boelle_dk> Q about ukhas node.... https://www.ukhas.net/wiki/guides:arduino_design
[13:40] <Boelle_dk> anyone that know how much i draws on the pi ?
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[13:42] <daveake> completely depends on what the device is doing
[13:42] <craag> Boelle_dk: About 5mA sleep, 27mA receive, and ~120mA full power transmit
[13:42] <daveake> e.g. tx is going to be more than rx which will be more than idle
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[13:42] <craag> s/sleep/idle/
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[13:43] <Boelle_dk> oki doki...
[13:43] <Boelle_dk> just trying to avoid magic smoke from the pi
[13:43] <craag> I run one off the 3.3V on a pi and it's been fine for months (set to full power)
[13:44] <daveake> I've not run one that long, but no smoke here either
[13:44] <Boelle_dk> hehe, me want to add an gps breakout too... the pi will run other stuff on the side
[13:44] <craag> well look at all the datasheets
[13:44] <Boelle_dk> i do have the parts for the node
[13:44] <daveake> I've flown pi + GPS + rfm69 and it's been fine
[13:44] <craag> add up the worst-case current consumption
[13:44] <Boelle_dk> just need to build it
[13:44] <daveake> but as craag says, get the datasheet do the maths
[13:44] <craag> then look for specs onhow much the pi will supply
[13:45] <craag> and work it out :)
[13:45] <Boelle_dk> craag: that is what i figured too... list all current and sum them
[13:45] <craag> yep
[13:45] Action: craag afk
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[13:51] <SpeedEvil> Meanwhile, in soviet thailand. http://theawesomer.com/insane-homebrew-rocket/303503/
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[14:00] <x-f> wow!
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[14:08] <x-f> that's crazy and awesome actually
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[14:15] <Vaizki> that's a girandola
[14:15] <Vaizki> never seen one so crazy though :)
[14:18] <Vaizki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDQKh4HTgS8
[14:18] <Vaizki> that's what they usually look like
[14:20] <Vaizki> and yes I'm just stalking, blame SpeedEvil
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[14:46] <Ian_> I can imagine being in the fallout zone of that one . . . oops!
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[15:34] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HG8PSL-11 - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=HG8PSL-11
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[15:43] <SA6BSS> Can I ask for a cleaning of the old map, say balloons older then 10 days or so?
[15:48] <SA6BSS> whats the best way for sealing a foil balloon, like a qualatex 36" ?
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[15:51] <daveake> parcel tape
[15:52] <alxwntr> Hi people
[15:52] <alxwntr> question about fldigi
[15:52] <alxwntr> is the latest version (3.22.05) appropriate?
[15:53] <alxwntr> can't find most things mentioned on the wiki
[15:54] <alxwntr> just installed it. so trying to follow the guide to get to know it
[15:54] <alxwntr> but currently at a loss
[15:54] <alxwntr> for a start, there doesn't seem to be any way of getting to 'HAB' mode...
[15:54] <alxwntr> any ideas?
[15:57] <daveake> you need dl-fldigi not fldigi
[15:58] <alxwntr> ah ok
[15:59] <alxwntr> thanks
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[16:03] <alxwntr> hmm , no win installer
[16:03] <alxwntr> and the link in the install instructions is broken
[16:03] <alxwntr> I don't know what 'cross compile from linux' means
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[16:04] <adamgreig> alxwntr: uh, there is a windows isntaller
[16:04] <adamgreig> you may have found yourself on the wrong page
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> Take a working linux system, and make a windows binary using it.
[16:04] <SpeedEvil> (cross compile)
[16:04] <adamgreig> try this http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi
[16:04] <adamgreig> specifically https://github.com/ukhas/dl-fldigi/releases/download/DL3.1/dl-fldigi-DL3.1-windows-2abd6a7.exe
[16:05] <adamgreig> which link (in which install instructions) is broken?
[16:05] <alxwntr> sorry I'm such a muppet adam
[16:05] <alxwntr> thanks
[16:05] <alxwntr> hang on, I'll paste it
[16:06] <adamgreig> thanks! if there's a broken link out there it should get fixed
[16:06] <alxwntr> http://github.com/danielrichman/dl-fldigi-windows-build
[16:06] <adamgreig> aha
[16:06] <alxwntr> that one
[16:06] <adamgreig> brave
[16:06] <adamgreig> yes that's not really relevant any more - where did you find the link?
[16:06] <alxwntr> Github
[16:07] <alxwntr> it said windows install instructions were in the INSTALL.dl-fldigi
[16:07] <adamgreig> as in you just searched github for dl-fldigi or..?
[16:07] <alxwntr> so I went there and tried to follow the link
[16:07] <alxwntr> I think I misunderstood which link I needed on the guide page
[16:07] <adamgreig> ah, ok
[16:07] <adamgreig> in any event that .exe should have you sorted
[16:08] <alxwntr> great
[16:08] <alxwntr> thanks a lot
[16:08] <adamgreig> np
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[16:15] <SA6BSS> ededu: how do you seal your balloons?
[16:16] <SA6BSS> jededu: how do you seal your balloons?
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[16:20] <FuzzyLemon> Hello! Does anyone know of a temperature probe which can measure down to -60 celsius?
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[16:21] <FuzzyLemon> all the temperature sensors i've seen only go down to -40
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[16:27] <daveake> If you care about measuring -60 then you'll care that your average one-wire or SPI or i2c sensor won't read accurately anyway due to self-heating, so you'll need a thermocouple
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[16:41] <mbales__> morning all
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[16:54] <UpuWork> hey mbales__
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[16:57] <mbales__> how goes it on your side of the world?
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[17:11] <alxwntr> Hey upu, got the new radio module today.
[17:11] <alxwntr> thanks for sending it so fast :)
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[19:36] <mbales__> Im looking at doing hydrogen for the next balloon and I called the local welding supply shop, they mentioned having industrial grade and pure hydrogen, what do folks in here use?
[19:42] <daveake> industrial is just fine
[19:42] <craag> mbales__: Did they mention percentages?
[19:43] <mbales__> they didnt for industrial but i can ask, the pure is 99.999990 percent pure
[19:43] <craag> haha dont need that
[19:44] <Myself> Hah, no, that doesn't matter.
[19:45] <mbales__> looks like industrial is 99.90 - 99.95
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[19:45] <Myself> That's more than plenty.
[19:45] <mbales__> not much difference
[19:45] <Myself> It could be 95% pure, as long as the other 5% isn't like SF6 or something absurdly heavy..
[19:45] <mbales__> haha, thatd be painful
[19:46] <Myself> that would go over...
[19:46] <daveake> yeah industrial is very close to 100%
[19:47] <mbales__> looks like the other gases in teh industrial grade are CO2, CO, N, O, and methane
[19:47] <mbales__> no SF6
[19:47] <Myself> I was kidding :P
[19:48] <mbales__> i caught that but it got me curious
[19:48] <Myself> Can your balloon withstand traces of methane? I'd assume so; we fart near them and they don't disintegrate.
[19:48] <mbales__> haha
[19:48] <mbales__> well now i need to test it
[19:48] <Myself> heh. A friend of mine built a fart-capturing chair last year
[19:48] <mbales__> i need a strain gauge, some taco bell, and a sealed container
[19:48] <Myself> Kids thought it was the most hilarious thing ever.
[19:49] <mbales__> howd he do the capture?
[19:49] <Myself> You literally sit on this perforated platform, push a button when you fart, and it runs a little compressor and grabs some air from the platform and shoves it into a balloon.
[19:49] <mbales__> hahaha
[19:49] <Myself> It's pretty diffuse but enough to catch a whiff when the balloon pops, assuming it was a reeker to start.
[19:49] <mbales__> thats spectacular
[19:50] <mbales__> next step is some rubber underwear with a hose
[19:50] <mbales__> then launch your methane filled balloon
[19:50] <mbales__> i call it: project fart on the stratosphere
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[19:51] <Myself> Actually. I mean. If the envelope's gonna burst at altitude anyway...
[19:51] <Myself> Might as well dust some of a friend's cremation ashes in there, or some farts, or whatever you feel like.
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[19:52] <mbales__> i could cropdust a huge area
[19:53] <mbales__> but mocing right along
[19:54] <mbales__> or moving rather
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[20:00] <SpeedEvil> On a slightly related topic - I have mentioned before that natural gas (as comes out of the hose in your kitchen) is 50p/m^3, and about a pound a kilo of lift.
[20:01] <mbales__> im confused by your units at the end there
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[20:03] Action: mfa298 has no hose in his kitchen
[20:03] <mbales__> i have a hose, but itd be a choice between balloons and hot water
[20:04] <mbales__> and cold water during our friged 60 degree fahrenheit winters is not an option
[20:04] <mbales__> ah, wheres the unit converter bot
[20:04] <mbales__> i think thats around 2 kilometers
[20:05] <gonzo_nb> where is sibot when you want it!
[20:05] <mfa298> 20 feet
[20:05] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 20 ft = 6.10 m
[20:06] <mbales__> hmm, maybe it doesnt do temperature
[20:06] <mfa298> the bot is just there ^^
[20:06] <mfa298> I think it was mostly feet and possibly lbs as they're the commonly used things
[20:06] <mfa298> 10 lbs
[20:06] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 10 lbs = 4.5 kg
[20:06] <mbales__> fair enough
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[20:07] <mbales__> then i will pollute this IRC with horrible imperial temperatures
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[20:13] <SpeedEvil> mbales__: pound sterling per kg
[20:13] <SpeedEvil> $1.6USish
[20:15] <mbales__> ah i see, that makes more sense
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[20:17] <mbales__> well I can get a k cylinder (8.6 m^3) of hydrogen for ~50 USD
[20:17] <SpeedEvil> Not bad.
[20:18] <mbales__> seemed reasonable to me, especially since helium is about 300USD for the same
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[22:32] <fsphil> normal service will resume shortly
[22:33] <Reb-SM0ULC> oki :)
[22:34] <mfa298> it seems like a while since a netsplit party
[22:34] <mfa298> and we had some warning this time as well.
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[22:38] <Oddstr13> wheeee :D
[22:39] <Oddstr13> rollercoaster!
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[22:48] <mfa298> should we be worried about computers that talkin their sleep (edmoore [~ed@82.6.148.64] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep])
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[22:51] <Oddstr13> mfa298: nah, it's quite common
[22:54] <mfa298> I suspect the message should be "going to sleep"
[22:54] <mfa298> which sounds like it might be a good idea
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[23:05] <fsphil> I always plan to have an early night, then suddenly it's tomorrow
[23:05] <Myself> Can I engrave that on a plaque?
[23:08] <Reb-SM0ULC> can i get a copy?
[23:08] <mbales__> ooo finally something useful for my laser cutter
[23:08] <Reb-SM0ULC> alarmclock is set 5h 52min away :/
[23:09] <fsphil> I've had to set mine early due to all the snow
[23:09] <fsphil> gonna take a while freeing the car
[23:09] <fsphil> then everyone else seems to forget how to drive
[23:12] <mbales__> i drove in snow once, with a car full of sleeping people. did a full 360 in a two lane road and recovered without anyone noticing, then slid backwards out of a parking space while trying to park and hit another car at 1 mph
[23:17] <SpeedEvil> Jerk is important.
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[23:22] <fsphil> aww
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[23:22] <mbales__> man 3000 gram balloons are expensive
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[23:23] <fsphil> they are indeed
[23:23] <daveake> cheap compared to the 4000g ones
[23:23] <fsphil> and may not perform better than 2kg's
[23:25] <mbales__> interesting
[23:29] <mbales__> i didnt know they came that big
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