highaltitude.log.20150111

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[00:09] <ian_> Given that Ofcom have just screwed up an excellent opportunity to clarify and correct years of inconsistently putting the base UK callsigns on people's licence documents - big style; then I think that they ought to put just a little effort into correctly programming their systems or perhaps doing more than just signing off on the testing - like actually testing the changes
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[00:29] <SpeedEvil> But that might cut into essential core buisness.
[00:30] <SpeedEvil> They'd have to leave the pub early!
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[01:04] <ian_> I suspect that they might have a bit of trouble organising a half decent piss up, tbh
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[01:14] <mfa298> I did hear some years ago that it's actually quite hard to arrange a piss up in a brewery. Apparently they don't like the idea of a bunch of drinkers going in, drinking the stock and getting very drunk.
[01:21] <Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/a/Z5mEB
[01:21] <Laurenceb__> when all else fails, pwn at killing yourself
[01:25] <lz1dev> im impressed they managed to scoop out the brain bits out
[01:27] <Laurenceb__> according to slashdot the grid fins use sphere with helium and hydralic fluid
[01:28] <Laurenceb__> then valves and dumped hydralic fluid :P
[01:28] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[01:28] <Laurenceb__> thats going to be pretty light, but bad if you run out
[01:28] <SpeedEvil> the grid fins are above the oxygen tank - which is above the kero tank
[01:28] <SpeedEvil> so using tank kerosene isn't going to work
[01:29] <Laurenceb__> yeah
[01:29] <SpeedEvil> The fins are about the same area as the whole stage.
[01:29] <SpeedEvil> (in plan view)
[01:29] <SpeedEvil> At least it's a 'nice' failure mode.
[01:29] <SpeedEvil> In that it's completely unambiguous what went wrong, and it worked almost completely
[01:30] <SpeedEvil> - hitting the barge is a major plus.
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[02:01] <Ian_> Maybe not the whole enchelado, but the barge kept station, the barge structure was tested to prove resilience and the targetting was pretty much on, so worst case tested; ready for the next step in the journey. Very piositive in my book.
[02:03] <Ian_> Mere brewery visits normally require a taxi home . . .
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[02:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LU1XDH_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=LU1XDH_chase
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[08:38] <Reb-SM0ULC> morrn
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[08:46] <SA6BSS> god morgon
[08:46] <SA6BSS> har ni haft det blåsigt uppe hos er?
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[08:51] <Reb-SM0ULC> SA6BSS: några sekundmeter här kanske.
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[08:58] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EDUPITS after 0312 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=EDUPITS
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[09:19] <DL7AD> good morning
[09:21] <vk5ei> anyone listening for ps-30
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[09:30] <SA6BSS-Mike> Reb-SM0ULC: ok, soptunnorna vält, o hoppmattan flyttat sig en meter, så ganska lugnt.
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[09:40] <Reb-SM0ULC> SA6BSS-Mike: trodde det skulle bli drag här. tänkte inviga nya stödbältet med karbinhake å annat för takklätteri å ta ner min qfh. men den fick vara kvar.
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[11:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI_SKY_LORA2 - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=PI_SKY_LORA2
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[11:12] <mattltm> Hi all
[11:13] <mattltm> Any launches today?
[11:13] <SpeedEvil> I'm having a nice bit of pizza in a bit.
[11:13] <SpeedEvil> Extra sausage.
[11:14] <fsphil> from the sound of the wind outside, there may be some unintentional launches
[11:15] <daveake> Like this one https://www.facebook.com/BBCSpringwatch/posts/783954551698055
[11:15] Action: daveake checks his own log cabin
[11:16] <SpeedEvil> I actually am in the process of designing a shed.
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> http://www.mauve.plus.com/blend.png
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> In blender.
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> I may be insane.
[11:17] <fsphil> it has two top sides...
[11:17] <SpeedEvil> yes - it's an 'attic'
[11:18] <fsphil> I've always wanted a two story shed
[11:18] <SpeedEvil> 3.6m cube
[11:18] <daveake> Once upon a time there was a shed
[11:18] <daveake> Or did you mean "storey"? :p
[11:19] <fsphil> and it stood happly ever after. until the storm
[11:19] <SpeedEvil> daveake: no - Kon Tiki - and The wicker man.
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[11:28] <paul_HAB-P> Finally GQRX streams from mac to linux box. Thank god for that, another monkey off my back.
[11:36] <fsphil> what's that for?
[11:37] <paul_HAB-P> oh i dont like having an aerial in the side of my laptop so I want to stream it over the network
[11:37] <paul_HAB-P> Ideally a headless box which can jsut sit there running...
[11:38] <fsphil> ah yes
[11:38] <fsphil> rtl_tcp?
[11:38] <paul_HAB-P> no can do, funcube...
[11:38] <paul_HAB-P> GQRX stream seems easiest
[11:39] <paul_HAB-P> but I do have an rtl dongle kicking around so I might use that...
[11:39] <fsphil> oh I've not managed that. how are you getting the data into gqrx?
[11:39] <paul_HAB-P> GQRX detects FCP+ no problem on both mac and linux
[11:40] <paul_HAB-P> u have to set some udev rules but no biggy
[11:40] <fsphil> yea that bit's easy. it's getting gqrx to read data from an FCD on another box
[11:41] <paul_HAB-P> ah - dont have to.
[11:41] <paul_HAB-P> nc -l -u 7355 | aplay -r 48k -f S16_LE -t raw -c 1
[11:41] <paul_HAB-P> then I am thinking use remote control to manipulate GQRX. WOuld be really nice if u could do this directly from fldigi...
[11:41] <fsphil> oh you're running gqrx on the remote box
[11:41] <paul_HAB-P> yep
[11:42] <paul_HAB-P> the box with the dongle
[11:42] <fsphil> my remote one wouldn't be fast enough
[11:42] <paul_HAB-P> Might look at getting a new Odroid card as some of those have quad core...
[11:42] <fsphil> it wouldn't be a huge amount of work to make fldigi read from an fcd directly
[11:43] <paul_HAB-P> but that would give less of a distributed architecture...
[11:44] <paul_HAB-P> The weird thing was that GQRX didnt stream at all until I told it to stream locally first...
[11:44] <paul_HAB-P> Go figure.
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[11:46] <fsphil> yea noticed that
[11:47] <paul_HAB-P> im gunna put a comment on the GQRX streaming post - that caught me out for ages...
[11:47] <fsphil> you'd need to add gqrx's protocol to habmlib for control, and a udp sound source
[11:47] <fsphil> would be neat to have fldigi retune it automatically to follow a signal
[11:48] <paul_HAB-P> wow that would be cool...
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[11:56] <paul_HAB-P> but I guess it depends where the fldigi project is going. I like having GQRX separate from Fldigi and other decoders but what do I know, I am noob.
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[12:05] <fsphil> I don't really like working on the fldigi code anymore
[12:05] <fsphil> it's a bit messy
[12:06] <fsphil> would be more interesting to add an rtty demodulator to gqrx
[12:08] <paul_HAB-P> its an amazing app.
[12:10] <DanielRichman> fsphil: implying the fldigi code wasn't messy before
[12:11] <DanielRichman> have you ever dug into their threading stuff
[12:11] <fsphil> yea it's always beem messy :)
[12:11] <fsphil> nah haven't
[12:12] <DanielRichman> I highly recommend it
[12:22] <fsphil> oh wait I might have ages ago. wasn't there some weirdness with printing text in the display because that's in a separate thread
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[13:37] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-30 after 0319 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=PS-30
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[13:48] <Laurenceb_> lolwut
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[13:48] <Laurenceb_> !hysplit run PS-30
[13:48] <SpacenearUS> 03Laurenceb_: You need to be an admin to do that.
[13:49] <Upu> !hysplit run PS-30
[13:49] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[13:51] <Laurenceb_> ta
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[13:57] <Laurenceb_> ah new hysplit is a much better match
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[14:09] <Oddstr13> gqrx's remote control protocol is quite simple
[14:10] <Oddstr13> it's somewhat compatable with the rigctld protocol
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[14:10] <Oddstr13> http://gqrx.dk/doc/remote-control
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[14:12] <Oddstr13> shouldn't take too much work to make it fully compatable, I've looked at the code for it, and even I should be able to hack that into doing what I want (not much experience with C++)
[14:13] <Oddstr13> it works fine with gpredict as-is, but I havn't managed to get fldigi to talk to it yet
[14:33] <fsphil> oooh I should try that with gpredict
[14:36] <diegoesep> gqrx an
[14:36] <diegoesep> gqrx and gpredict were made by the same guy ;)
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[14:40] <fsphil> indeed
[14:59] <Ian_> There is a companion antenna rotator program also in the G series, but it's name escapes me
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[15:12] <edmoore> gazelle
[15:12] <edmoore> if it's not called that, it should be
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[15:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TEST - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=TEST
[15:46] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7hO-1ItqXw (not very on-topic)
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[16:30] <Bob_Saget> anyone know what envelope PS-30 is using??
[16:30] <Upu> yup 36" Qualatex foil
[16:30] <craag> Bob_Saget: Yeah, it's one of steve's 36" foils
[16:31] <Bob_Saget> who is steve?
[16:31] <Bob_Saget> does he sell them?
[16:31] <craag> aka Random Aerospace
[16:31] <craag> http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Balloons.html
[16:31] <Upu> yup just a normal ballon nothing special on this one
[16:32] <Upu> its a little party balloon
[16:32] <edmoore> quite a big party balloon
[16:32] <craag> You can get them on ebay and places too
[16:32] <edmoore> unless parties have got bigger since i had them
[16:32] <Upu> I must go to better parties that you
[16:32] <craag> Although generally less well packaged (one I from ebay got arrived with a puncture)
[16:33] <Bob_Saget> ohh a qualatex 36 incher?
[16:33] <edmoore> yes
[16:33] <Bob_Saget> ahh very impressive
[16:33] <Bob_Saget> we released three of those last week, all MIA
[16:34] <Bob_Saget> how is he crusing at that altitude? the best we could get was 28K, guess he added more lift than 4 grams?
[16:35] <Upu> very light payload
[16:35] <Upu> very low lift
[16:35] <Upu> 1-2g of lift I suspect
[16:35] <Upu> I've never got that alitute out of one
[16:36] <Upu> altitude even
[16:37] <mattbrejza> it might be benificial floating mostly over ocean rather than land with mountains and stuff
[16:39] <Bob_Saget> i'm new to all of this, just curious, is that above average range for a 36 inch qualatex?
[16:40] <Upu> yes
[16:40] <Upu> 8500 is about normal for 15g payload and minimal lift
[16:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EDUPIC10 after 033 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=EDUPIC10
[16:43] <mfa298> Upu: I assume 28K is 28K ft rather than 28km as most of us might assume
[16:43] <Upu> oh yes I already made that assumption :)
[16:46] <Bob_Saget> Sorry guys, pilot... only think in feet
[16:46] <Bob_Saget> for altitude
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[16:47] <craag> 28000 ft
[16:47] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 28000 ft = 9 km
[16:47] <craag> :)
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[17:57] <Ian_> "Pilots only think in feet" - it makes the airmiss reports seem that little bit more explainable!
[17:58] <M6XiMaN> And the UFO reports
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[18:50] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[19:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EDUPIC_Alt1 - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=EDUPIC_Alt1
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[19:23] <li4m0> Evening. Anyone have any links/info on the cut down circuit/resistor used in daveake babbage the bear jump
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[19:28] <daveake> Just a logic-level mosfet and a 3.9 ohm resistor
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[19:29] <li4m0> Thanks dave ill do some reading
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[19:29] <daveake> You need to get 4W or so into a small resistor or piece of resistance wire
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[19:31] <li4m0> Cheers
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[19:38] <Lunar_Lander> http://www.olemiss.edu/research/atmospheric_physics/LLgallery.html thunderstorm ballooning in new mexico
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[19:54] <Laurenceb_> ive used 0.125W resistors, 10ohm with 5 volt for a couple of seconds
[19:55] <Laurenceb_> then polypropylene cord
[19:55] <Laurenceb_> why so yellow?
[19:55] <Laurenceb_> http://www.olemiss.edu/research/atmospheric_physics/722006.jpg
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[20:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
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[21:34] <Babs> ping geoff-g8dhe
[21:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/#!qm=All&q=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[22:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-Tab> Pong Babs
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[22:55] <Maxell> The sbhx APRS finally hits an igate, it works! V2 will be flown soon" https://twitter.com/sbhackerspace/status/554411024875413504
[22:55] <Maxell> Aha. "Trackuino reminder: replace callsign with your own"
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[23:12] <Lunar_Lander> good night :)
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[23:21] <amell> re PS-30, why was it going in the opposite direction to the hysplit off Namibia?
[23:21] <amell> oh i see now, just zoomed in close.
[23:22] <amell> good to see a few dl-fldigi in SA, but was it even broadcasting RTTY
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[23:47] <Laurenceb_> define irony: British hold a solitary rally with the French, in Trafalgar square
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