highaltitude.log.20150109

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[00:07] <Laurenceb__> http://hackaday.com/2015/01/08/faulty-esp8266s-release-smoke-then-keep-working/
[00:07] <Laurenceb__> lolling
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[00:25] <Oddstr13> hehe, nice one
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[03:23] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03mani_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=mani_chase
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[07:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH32-1 after 039 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=AETH32-1
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[08:40] Nick change: day- -> day
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[10:12] <amell> Laurenceb_: Hmm, i have one of those ESP8266s :)
[10:12] <amell> will measure the resistor if i can.
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[12:13] <paul_HAB-P> Yay payload aerial built. Great instruction on the wiki (although I left 1cm of braid which made things easier) :)
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[12:52] <edmoore> good stuff paul_HAB-P
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[13:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5PGW-6 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=KF5PGW-6
[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03LORA1 after 03a day silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=LORA1
[13:50] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOTASPOT after 037 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=NOTASPOT
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[13:56] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5PGW-7 after 0313 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=KF5PGW-7
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[14:01] <Andi___> hey! anybody has experience with ulink2?
[14:04] <Andi___> i'm trying to revive my old garmin etrex gps, dead from a failure while updating throught webupdater tool
[14:04] <Andi___> i got a binary dump from 0x40000000 and from 0x60000000 memory, i would like to flash using my ulink2
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[15:52] <lz1dev_> http://i.imgur.com/8JfQTXn.gifv
[15:54] <DrLuke> So today will be a first meeting for people interested in a HAB project at our hackerspace, what are some things that should be discussed there?
[15:54] <DrLuke> Besides the name and features of the balloon itself of course
[15:55] <eroomde> what country are you in?
[15:55] <eroomde> if uk, there are some boring but easy enough details
[15:55] <eroomde> where to launch, and getting a notam for that launch site
[15:56] <DrLuke> Germany
[15:56] <eroomde> helium vs hydrogen - I'd just go hydrogen
[15:56] <DrLuke> Well yeah, the legal stuff is straight forward enough, I've already informed myself about that
[15:56] <eroomde> i'm not sure what the rules are for germany but there are german flyers here so they should be able to help
[15:56] <eroomde> fine then
[15:56] <eroomde> not to worry
[15:56] <DrLuke> H vs He is a good point
[15:56] <eroomde> better for our natural resources to use hydrogen, and better performance too
[15:57] <DrLuke> yeah
[15:57] <eroomde> just don't let smokers do the filling
[15:57] <DrLuke> but potential Hindenburg-effects
[15:57] <DrLuke> how critical are ESD?
[15:57] <eroomde> not very
[15:57] <DrLuke> should the people handling the balloon be grounded?
[15:57] <eroomde> i wouldn't worry. most people worry about hydrogen handling because they don't understand it and so assume the worst
[15:58] <gonzo__> to stop thel floating awayu?
[15:58] <DrLuke> I think it's a good thing to worry too much than too little
[15:58] <eroomde> i have honestly not taken any precaution using hydrogen than i have helium
[15:58] <eroomde> i'm enormously more respectful of the high pressures which is the same for both
[15:58] <DrLuke> alright
[15:58] <daveake> All I do is make sure nobody smokes anywhere near
[15:58] <Oddstr13> you don't want 1H + 2O in the ballon :P
[15:59] <DrLuke> hah
[15:59] <Oddstr13> but, the ballon would idealy be filled with just H, and not leaking, so...
[15:59] <DrLuke> yes of course
[15:59] <eroomde> i assume you're making your own flight computer (you're a hacker space so lots of smart techy people eager to learn if they don't know already) so i would just say
[15:59] <eroomde> test
[15:59] <DrLuke> H is also cheaper
[15:59] <eroomde> plan tests into the program
[16:00] <DrLuke> I think we will tend towards H
[16:00] <eroomde> radio tests, range tests, funny combinations of rapidly switching it on and off, or restarting the gps mid flight (can the gps parser handle that)
[16:00] <DrLuke> yeah we'll make everything from scratch probably
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[16:00] <eroomde> all the usual issues with zero-padding in strings
[16:01] <eroomde> and strings in C generally
[16:01] <eroomde> there's a good wiki page discussion common problems with that
[16:01] <gonzo__> there are some simple precautions to do with the regulator/bottle with H2. Main one is not to eopen the valve without a regulator on (many do that to clear the bottle neck of muck)
[16:01] <DrLuke> yeah, H2 will ignite
[16:01] <eroomde> it probably won't
[16:01] <DrLuke> because of the something something coefficient having the wrong sign
[16:01] <eroomde> tbh
[16:01] <eroomde> DrLuke, yes exactly
[16:01] <eroomde> and then, darkside
[16:02] <eroomde> so yep, you sound clued up
[16:02] <DrLuke> (I'm an electrical engineer, I hope it doesn't show :PPP)
[16:02] <eroomde> so provided you think of things to test you'll be good
[16:02] <eroomde> make sure tha batteries are secure
[16:02] <eroomde> i'm fond of throwing the payload box down the stairs
[16:02] <eroomde> if it can survive that it can probably survive a bumpy landing
[16:02] <DrLuke> Yeah, as you said we're a bunch of clever guys, and I'm eager to do a good job on the computer
[16:02] <gonzo__> any radio experience in the group?
[16:03] <eroomde> electrical people usually already understand the importance of good cables and connectors
[16:03] <DrLuke> We got some HAMs
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> HAMs are good.
[16:03] <eroomde> so i won't go on about that too much
[16:03] <eroomde> but
[16:03] <eroomde> good wiremanship is obviously important
[16:03] <SpeedEvil> Especialy the honey-roast sort.
[16:03] <DrLuke> eroomde: Yup, we'll probably get a custom PCB to reduce wires to a minimum
[16:03] <gonzo__> you are prob half way there then. Many groups have problems with getting a useable groundstation receiver
[16:03] <eroomde> also keep it simple for flight one
[16:03] <eroomde> then go mad
[16:04] <eroomde> but having a good, solid, simple tracker is a powerful enabler for then trying lots of fun expeirments
[16:04] <DrLuke> eroomde: The ultimate goal is to launch a cool balloon at the chaos computer camp
[16:04] <DrLuke> which is in augsut
[16:04] <eroomde> awesome
[16:04] <craag> There's a few of us interested in going along to that
[16:04] <DrLuke> awesome
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> DrLuke: I don't know about legality of german balloon launches have you checked that out?
[16:05] <DrLuke> We could have a balloon bonanza or however you call that :P
[16:05] <DrLuke> SpeedEvil: Yes, it's rather straight forward
[16:05] <craag> We had a UKHAS village at emfcamp last year
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:05] <DrLuke> Just need clearance to launch, and insurance to get the clearance
[16:05] <SpeedEvil> Where do you get insurance - that's been a problem for some
[16:05] <eroomde> but yes, i'd just make it so you're happy to throw it down the stairs
[16:06] <eroomde> have the antenna springy
[16:06] <eroomde> so it springs back if it gets bashed
[16:06] <DrLuke> I think that's something to worry about some time later, not on the first meeting
[16:06] <eroomde> i have seen a few flights go bad because of a rough launch where the antenna bashes the launchers hand and gets bent up towards the ground plane elements
[16:06] <DrLuke> aww
[16:06] <eroomde> that sort of thing really
[16:07] <eroomde> i'll show you a pic of a payload box i sis a few years ago
[16:07] <eroomde> (i have now not launched anything for nearly half a decade... golly)
[16:07] <DrLuke> So what you're saying is to watch out for murphy's law
[16:07] <eroomde> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cuspaceflight/4721971075/in/set-72157624203062811
[16:08] <eroomde> so you see i put the active natenna element in a bit of pipe insulation there
[16:08] <craag> guitar wire ftw
[16:08] <eroomde> and the radial elements were attached the cable ties, with heatshrink over the top
[16:08] <gonzo__> in the UK, we can launch small balloons (<2mtrs) without any need for permissions etc. They are great for testing the hardware. Worth considering if that is allowed in .de
[16:08] <eroomde> but yes, also guitar wire is good and springy by itself
[16:08] <eroomde> i think mclane has luanched a few habs in germany just fine
[16:08] <DrLuke> gonzo__: There's a limit in the law I think, gonna check for it
[16:08] <adamgreig> eroomde: that box's history gets ever more storied
[16:09] <eroomde> make it a bright colour that isn't green
[16:09] <adamgreig> we recently recovered it after a six month stint in a tree on national rail land
[16:09] <eroomde> orange is good
[16:09] <eroomde> upu likes pink
[16:09] <adamgreig> after they cut the tree down (unrelated apparently) and we had a dodgy exchange at an essex train station with the contractor
[16:09] <adamgreig> though the entire antenna assembly has been replaced (and new pipe insulation too) after the builder we almost hit with it tore the old one off
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[16:09] <daveake> yellow isn't so good if it lands in a rape seed field
[16:10] <eroomde> https://www.flickr.com/photos/eroomde/sets/72157600160879866/
[16:10] <DrLuke> haha
[16:10] <eroomde> this is quite an old set
[16:10] <UpuWork> pink
[16:10] <eroomde> back when james didn't have a bald patch and steve's hair had colour
[16:10] <DrLuke> pink it is
[16:10] <eroomde> and i hadn't put on two stone after graduating
[16:10] <gonzo__> the small balloons (usually called pico balloons) have the advantage that we can launch any time, not just on the day when we have appllied for permission. So can pick good weather/winds on a whim
[16:10] <eroomde> but look at the 4th photo
[16:10] <DrLuke> sticks out like a sore thumb
[16:10] <eroomde> you can clearly see the bright orange parachute from a long distance away on the hedge row
[16:10] <UpuWork> yep
[16:10] <UpuWork> or pink
[16:11] <DrLuke> alright, thanks for all the input!
[16:11] <eroomde> have a directional antenna in the chase car
[16:11] <eroomde> so you can direction find
[16:11] <eroomde> plan for the gps etc to go wrong
[16:11] <DrLuke> Yeah we have a selection of antennae
[16:12] <eroomde> so you can say 'well it's probably in a field somewhere over there (to the left of us) rather than over there (to the right of us)
[16:12] <eroomde> that helps a lot
[16:12] <Oddstr13> training on direction finding with antenna might also be a good thing to do?
[16:12] <eroomde> yes indeed
[16:12] <Oddstr13> I should do that. :)
[16:12] <eroomde> we have actually just flown beepers before that do 1hz beeps on 434MHz
[16:12] <eroomde> and tracked the flights successfully just with directyion finding
[16:12] <eroomde> a v good skill to have
[16:12] <DrLuke> Cool
[16:13] <eroomde> i wouldn't put an expensive camera on such a flight but it's good practice for a training flight
[16:13] <eroomde> especially with two chase cars
[16:13] <eroomde> so you can drive say 30km apart and take bearings from each car
[16:13] <eroomde> then see where they intersect on the map
[16:13] <Oddstr13> you don't need expensive hardware at all for such a device
[16:13] <eroomde> no indeed
[16:13] <eroomde> radiometrix and a 555
[16:13] <gonzo__> ham clubs often have direction finding compertitions. Could be worth asking the hams in the group
[16:14] <Oddstr13> also a few caps and resistors :P
[16:14] <DrLuke> Yup, I know of one of the HAMs who does just that
[16:14] <Oddstr13> I should build one right now actually
[16:14] <eroomde> hope for the best, plan for the worst
[16:14] <eroomde> and you'll be just fine
[16:14] <eroomde> also feel free to ask for feedback on pcb designs and stuff in this channel
[16:14] <eroomde> lots of combined experience
[16:15] <DrLuke> I definitely will!
[16:15] <Oddstr13> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10534 I have a few of these that I bought on sale :)
[16:15] <gonzo__> and most important..... Bacon rolls are a tradition before a launch. Though Im sure you can create a more .de centered version
[16:15] <eroomde> wurst rolls?
[16:15] <DrLuke> don't those drift like hell?
[16:15] <DrLuke> Uhm
[16:15] <gonzo__> the worts of the wurst?
[16:15] <gonzo__> worst
[16:15] <DrLuke> we'd probably have Maultaschen around here
[16:15] <eroomde> well anyway, something hot and pork based in a bread roll is a very good pre-launch thing
[16:16] <DrLuke> http://www.buerger.de/uploads/pics/Maultaschen.jpg
[16:16] <Oddstr13> DrLuke: the transmitters? oh yea. they drift a metric crapton when I move around near them
[16:16] <DrLuke> yuck
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[16:16] <SpeedEvil> Do not get bacon grease on the latex balloon
[16:17] <DrLuke> Heh, it'll probably freeze, right?
[16:17] <eroomde> i also like the tradition of ride sharing
[16:17] <SpeedEvil> Well - oil and latex don't get on well togetehr
[16:18] <DrLuke> ride sharing?
[16:18] <eroomde> so if you do some bigger latex flights and your develop your own reliable tracking system, ask people to build experiments for you to fly
[16:18] <DrLuke> ah
[16:18] <eroomde> give them some constrains like must be less than 500g or whatever
[16:18] <eroomde> but it amkes for fun launches
[16:18] <DrLuke> Yeah, we could offer it to our meterologists at uni
[16:18] <eroomde> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cuspaceflight/4722632458/in/set-72157624203062811
[16:18] <eroomde> we had 4 or 5 payloads on this flight
[16:18] <eroomde> all different groups monitoring their expoeriments
[16:19] <eroomde> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cuspaceflight/sets/72157624203062811/
[16:19] <eroomde> there's a luanch vid in there
[16:19] <DrLuke> sounds like a jolly good time as you brits say :P
[16:19] <eroomde> we do, and it is
[16:20] <eroomde> that flight also had a really really sexy parachute
[16:20] <DrLuke> what's the point of having such a long line, is it more stable that way?
[16:20] <eroomde> yes i think so
[16:20] <eroomde> like a pendulum - lower amplitude for a given amount of disturbing energy
[16:21] <eroomde> http://aeroconsystems.com/cart/all-parachutes/72-inch-orange-parachute/
[16:21] <eroomde> this was the parachute we use
[16:21] <eroomde> aeroconn systems have some really nice stuff
[16:21] <eroomde> though probably a bit big for modern hab
[16:21] <eroomde> the fashion is for lighter payloads now
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[16:23] <DrLuke> What's the ballpark figure for the price to launch a modern Hab, 400¬?
[16:23] <eroomde> sounds about right
[16:23] <eroomde> 100 for the balloon?
[16:23] <eroomde> half that for the helium?
[16:23] <eroomde> electronics and pcbs maybe 150?
[16:23] <eroomde> i dunno
[16:23] <DrLuke> yeah
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[16:23] <eroomde> depends what you have lying around already
[16:23] <DrLuke> plus testing
[16:23] <eroomde> yes
[16:23] <DrLuke> and the breaking that will come with the testing
[16:24] <DrLuke> :P
[16:24] <daveake> helium is about €120 now
[16:24] <eroomde> i meant hydrogen
[16:24] <eroomde> which is much cheaper
[16:24] <DrLuke> yeah
[16:24] <DrLuke> 99% purity is good enough, right?
[16:24] <eroomde> yep
[16:24] <daveake> Ah yeah I pay €85 for a tank that will fly 2 average balloons
[16:24] <DrLuke> because that shit's cheap as hell to buy
[16:25] <gonzo__> if using He, be aware that what is sold as balloon gas, may have a % of air. Industrial heliem will be more pure
[16:25] <DrLuke> Balloon gas is also way more expensive for some reason
[16:26] <DrLuke> We'd probably just buy from Linde if that company is known to you
[16:26] <eroomde> yes
[16:26] <eroomde> and yes, good idea
[16:26] <DrLuke> Maybe we can even get it via our university, since they get a delivery from Linde once a week
[16:26] <eroomde> if you have a contact with an industrial supplier, 100% go with that
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[16:26] <eroomde> that's what we did DrLuke
[16:26] <gonzo__> may be possible to hire regulators too. Unless you plan to launch a lot
[16:26] <eroomde> we had an arrangement with the rep from the gas supplier for the university
[16:27] <eroomde> he gave us gas, regulators, and safety handling equipment
[16:27] <eroomde> all free
[16:27] <DrLuke> eroomde: Did you offer to slap the uni's sticker onto the payload for it?
[16:27] <eroomde> makes almost no difference to him given how much gas the univeristy gets through
[16:27] <DrLuke> Yeah
[16:27] <eroomde> he can easily add a couple of extra bottles
[16:27] <eroomde> DrLuke, yes we did once
[16:27] <eroomde> well, the gas suppliers
[16:28] <DrLuke> Alright, I can see this coming together quite nicely!
[16:28] <eroomde> we did do something for the uni's 800th anniversary celebrations once
[16:28] <DrLuke> I guess we can offer free balloon rides in return for free gas :P
[16:29] <DrLuke> .oO(Will fly your payload for Food)
[16:30] <gonzo__> as ed said, the main thing is to get a simple and reliable tracker going. As loosing balloons will probably ruin the group's moral
[16:30] <eroomde> http://www.cusf.co.uk/images/BOCold.JPG
[16:30] <eroomde> there we go
[16:31] <DrLuke> hehe
[16:31] <DrLuke> gonzo__: I guess, yeah. We could also first develop a tracker, and then attach a seperate payload to that later on
[16:32] <eroomde> yeah
[16:32] <eroomde> a tracker is a useful standalong thing in its own right
[16:32] <eroomde> and easy to integrate into other payloads
[16:32] <Oddstr13> eroomde: that really is the prime spot too! can't get a better place to advertize your gas :P
[16:32] <eroomde> or fly as a backup when you try a more complicated whiz-bang trackers
[16:33] <DrLuke> yeah
[16:33] Action: Oddstr13 digs out a 555
[16:34] <DrLuke> you could also use the 555 as a temperature sensor
[16:34] <eroomde> convoluted :)
[16:34] <DrLuke> as the frequency will drift with temperature :P
[16:35] <Oddstr13> pulse length modulation? hehe
[16:37] Action: Oddstr13 found engineer's mini notebook vol1
[16:38] <gonzo__> didn't the russians do something like that in 1957?
[16:40] <Oddstr13> "Basic astable circuit"
[16:41] <DrLuke> I don't know, did the russians have 555 timers?
[16:42] <gonzo__> yep, big thermeonic ones. (I was thinking the temp measuring on the 1Hz timing. That was what sputnik did ?)
[16:43] <gonzo__> thermionic
[16:45] <Oddstr13> yea, replace one of the resistors with a thermistor
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[16:47] <gonzo__> if you calibrated it, you could probably use the drift of the NTX2 !
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[16:56] <eroomde> time to go for a drink
[16:56] <eroomde> ttfn
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[17:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KC1CVN-11 - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=KC1CVN-11
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[17:40] <john_____> hello all
[17:40] <mbales__> ahoy hoy
[17:41] <john_____> can someone tell whats the common position update rate of the rtty transmissions?
[17:42] <Upu> 50 baud
[17:42] <mattbrejza> its in the range 0.03 to 0.3 Hz
[17:44] <john_____> thank you!
[17:46] <john_____> asked after seeing that the online tracking gives a slow update rate
[17:47] <mattbrejza> some payloads are every minute or two if theyre conserving power
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[18:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03W0WYX - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=W0WYX
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[18:31] <Laurenceb> I just worked out what the atomic boy scout was trying to do
[18:31] <Laurenceb> he is a genius
[18:32] <Laurenceb> a solid state micro fission reactor
[18:32] <Laurenceb> I just worked through all the maths, hes actually not insane
[18:33] <mattbrejza> im not sure that justifies building it in your backgarden
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[18:38] <Laurenceb> it was based on this
[18:38] <Laurenceb> http://web.mit.edu/nrl/www/bnct/info/description/description.html
[18:41] <Laurenceb> neutron penetration through solid boron is ~40µm, so its actually possible to make a micro scale thingy
[18:42] <Laurenceb> reactor on chip :P
[18:42] <mattbrejza> just make one small enough to fit in a phone/laptop
[18:42] <mattbrejza> even a car would be great
[18:43] <mattbrejza> also id guess that a small but significant number will penetrate much more than 40um?
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[18:44] <Laurenceb> yes
[18:45] <Laurenceb> also it chucks out gamma rays, high energy lithium nuclei and nasty shit
[18:45] <Laurenceb> not exactly phone friendly :P
[18:45] <mattbrejza> yea, probably best to wait for the fusion reactor on chip then
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[19:07] <SpeedEvil> you can get fission devices on chip that produce power.
[19:08] <SpeedEvil> http://www.betavoltaic.co.uk/laptop_battery.html
[19:08] <SpeedEvil> Someone is unclear on the concept
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> http://www.citylabs.net/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=25 - the real ones are comfortably under a microwatt
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[19:10] <SpeedEvil> I think you actually get the same life and output power from one lithium AA cell.
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[19:51] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eiaWZ/658e2a9a78.png
[19:51] <Oddstr13> beepy beacon is working :P
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[19:52] <qyx_> are you sure it is the right picture?
[19:53] <Oddstr13> puush might be messing with me
[19:54] <Oddstr13> oh, thanks skype.
[19:55] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eibvV/31cf96728d.png
[19:55] <Oddstr13> I kinda moved the skype overlay out of the way, I guess I forgot to refocus SDR#
[19:58] <bertrik> what does it do, is it just a carrier?
[19:59] <Oddstr13> yea, unmodulated carrier
[20:01] <Oddstr13> I'ma place it on the other side of the house, and see how it looks then
[20:02] <Oddstr13> with no antenna :P
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[20:20] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eifHH/2e9789abec.png
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[21:22] <Oddstr13> http://oddstr13.openshell.no/gallery/image/85/
[21:22] <Upu> small :)
[21:23] <Oddstr13> indeed it is
[21:24] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eiqpR/88751de22f.png Wonder how far it is visible now
[21:25] <Oddstr13> added a 13cm whip
[21:26] <Upu> stick a 164mm wire in there
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[21:27] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: cool :)
[21:29] <Reb-SM0ULC> Upu: how do you get 164 mm?
[21:29] <Upu> 1/4 wave @ 434Mhz
[21:29] <Oddstr13> someone mentioned a simple direction finding tracker, and I had the parts at hand, so I thought why not :P
[21:29] <mfa298> 300/(434 * 4 * 0.95)
[21:30] <Reb-SM0ULC> Upu: 300 / 434 > 170 mm for me
[21:30] <Upu> in air
[21:30] <Upu> not coax
[21:30] <Reb-SM0ULC> aah , right, compensantion
[21:30] <Reb-SM0ULC> darn darn darn
[21:30] Action: Reb-SM0ULC is mr goldh´fish
[21:30] <Upu> :)
[21:30] <Oddstr13> well, it is just a wire plugged into the breadboard, so it's hard to get it perfect anyway
[21:31] <mfa298> I think the 0.95 is more like in single core wire in a dipole/monopole configuration.
[21:32] <mfa298> although I put my *0.95 in the wrong place above.
[21:32] <mfa298> should have been (300 * 0.95)/(434 * 4)
[21:32] <mfa298> serves me right for doing it quickly
[21:33] <mfa298> in coax should be even shorter (more like *0.66)
[21:34] <Reb-SM0ULC> yepp, depending on the cable
[21:38] <Oddstr13> Upu: images seem to have moved closer to the signal now
[21:38] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eitf1/b9ea5de796.png
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[21:39] <Oddstr13> that is after changing the antenna
[21:40] <Oddstr13> also, the gain of the RTL-SDR is set to 0 dB :P
[21:41] <Oddstr13> I'ma go place it in another building, to get it further away, and see how the signal is then
[21:44] <Reb-SM0ULC> play radio orienteering :)
[21:47] <Oddstr13> don't have a directional antenna :P
[21:48] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eiuMt/63625632a2.png
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[21:48] <Oddstr13> placed on a rather large metall object :P it isn't exactly frequency stable
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[21:54] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/eivNb/7020c0c705.png it's behaving a bit strange
[21:54] <Oddstr13> I guess the cold is getting to it :P
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[21:56] <Reb-SM0ULC> oh
[21:57] <qyx_> i hope you are not expecting it to be stable
[21:57] <Oddstr13> qyx_: not really, but that sudden jump is a bit strange
[21:58] <Oddstr13> I should probably decrease the duty cycle quite a bit tho
[21:59] <Oddstr13> kinda transmitting way more than I'm supposed to right now
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