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[00:23] <M6XIMan> fsphil: Once you have one you'd find quite a few uses for it.
[00:23] <M6XIMan> If you fly any form of plane or multirotor, they're invaluable
[00:24] <amell> what do you use for designing the stls?
[00:24] <M6XIMan> SketchUp
[00:24] <amell> yeah, i need to take another look at that
[00:25] <amell> tried openSCAD, but its a pain in the butt
[00:25] <M6XIMan> I'm far from proficient in it, but it's definitely easier to use with one hand on the keyboard and the other on the mouse
[00:25] <M6XIMan> Loads of good Youtube videos on it too
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[00:35] <fsphil> earlier today I needed a little mount for the pi camera. would've been handy for that
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[00:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 034_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=4_chase
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[01:01] <Laurenceb_> so does P-30 work best during the day or during the night?
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[01:11] <Laurenceb_> heh i see it on WSPRnet, very cool
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[09:17] <UpuWork> ping jededu
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[09:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03NOTASPOT after 032 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=NOTASPOT
[09:40] <tweetBot> @daveake: Updated LoRa gateway repository - added installation and configuration instructions. https://t.co/hAvlUGnFkx #UKHAS
[09:43] <jededu> Hi upuwork
[09:54] <Reb-SM0ULC> morrn
[09:58] <UpuWork> hey jededu
[09:58] <UpuWork> pm
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[10:58] <paul_HAB-P> HI All, how do I pipe aplay out to a socket? (I am guessing it's a pipe command of some type)
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[11:01] <mfa298> paul_HAB-P: you probably want netcat (nc) possibly sending via a fifo
[11:01] <paul_HAB-P> Thanks I'll have a look :)
[11:05] <paul_HAB-P> This looks like a good starting point - thanks for the heads up! http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/using/arecord
[11:06] <paul_HAB-P> (the piping mic's over netcat example)
[11:13] <fsphil> $ arecord -D hw:1 -fdat -r96000 -traw - | nc -l 6000
[11:13] <fsphil> that's how I'm currently streaming FCD audio
[11:13] <fsphil> gnuradio has a tcp source module, which connects to it. all very handy
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[11:18] <paul_HAB-P> thanks fsphil :) Havent got my head around gnuradio yet...
[11:19] <paul_HAB-P> was going to pick it up with GQRX
[11:22] <fsphil> haven't figured out how to do that yet
[11:22] <fsphil> only network support it seems to have is for rtl_tcp
[11:24] <paul_HAB-P> ah right
[11:24] <paul_HAB-P> oh its a maze getting stuff working.
[11:24] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: at least one way to do it.
[11:25] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: remote fcd seems not really popular i any sdr-sw
[11:26] <paul_HAB-P> yeah - playing with the RTL dongle right now as that seems to have much better support
[11:26] <fsphil> it might be possible to make an fcd_tcp - the protocol doesn't seem to be documented anywhere though
[11:27] <fsphil> the rtl_sdr source isn't immediatly obvious
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[11:27] <paul_HAB-P> i was thinking about this last night. Why TCP?
[11:27] <paul_HAB-P> Why not UDP? Its faster.
[11:27] <paul_HAB-P> e.g. WebRTC
[11:27] <paul_HAB-P> or similar
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[11:28] <fsphil> I don't think it's faster
[11:29] <paul_HAB-P> it doesnt have handshakes
[11:29] <fsphil> less overhead, but you'd still need to put in methods to stop data arriving out of order
[11:29] <fsphil> probably end up re-implementing tcp :)
[11:29] <paul_HAB-P> Yeah thats the UDP sequence number
[11:30] <paul_HAB-P> its built in
[11:30] <daveake> that's a point good
[11:30] <paul_HAB-P> thats why its used for video
[11:32] <paul_HAB-P> Good discussion on TCP vs UDP: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/47903/udp-vs-tcp-how-much-faster-is-it
[11:32] <qyx_> wut
[11:32] <qyx_> where does udp have sequence numbers?
[11:32] <qyx_> and why should udp be faster?
[11:34] <paul_HAB-P> my mistake UDP doesnt have seq - people have implemented private seq no's. UDP is quicker as it doesnt have ACK's flying around...
[11:35] <qyx_> theres rtp for that purpose - if you want jitter buffering and reordering while using udp
[11:36] <qyx_> and the absence of acks doesn't necessarily means it is faster
[11:36] <paul_HAB-P> exactly - so RTP over UDP would be V.quick
[11:36] <paul_HAB-P> http://www.diffen.com/difference/TCP_vs_UDP
[11:36] <qyx_> it is just more deterministic on congested networks
[11:36] <qyx_> time deterministic i mean
[11:36] <paul_HAB-P> yep - but how many of us are really on a big network?
[11:37] <qyx_> but you don't need time determinism
[11:37] <qyx_> you want your data delivered
[11:37] <qyx_> thats the purpose of tcp
[11:37] <paul_HAB-P> so that's a good question. Whats really important in the link between the receiver and the demod? Is it getting it all there or getting it there quickly?
[11:37] <qyx_> at least not in this application.. VoIP is a different thing, you want your data delivired NOW and it doesn't matter if some packets are lost
[11:38] <qyx_> losing some parts can break demodulation
[11:38] <paul_HAB-P> Yup get that
[11:38] <qyx_> at least imho
[11:38] <paul_HAB-P> but thats happening anyway with atmospherics etc...
[11:38] <paul_HAB-P> sorry - really interested...
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[11:40] <Reb-SM0ULC> paul_HAB-P: packet loss is not so fun to handle in sdr:s
[11:40] <mfa298> udp is potentially faster for wan connections as they latency for that can vary (jitter) other than that the real difference was probably more for older networks where routers were slow.
[11:40] <paul_HAB-P> Ah right got it :-)
[11:41] <mfa298> most modern routers are (or should be) wirespeed (although that might not apply on all cheaper home routers)
[11:41] <fsphil> NAT makes a mess of UDP
[11:41] <fsphil> but that's not UDPs fault
[11:41] <mfa298> NAT makes a mess of everything
[11:41] <fsphil> aye
[11:41] Action: mfa298 should really work out why irrsi struggles with ipv6 at home.
[11:41] <Reb-SM0ULC> mfa298: well, on the older days when the tcp-window wasn't autoscaling that was very true but these days it doesn't differ that much
[11:42] <qyx_> hm, udp is natted quite easily
[11:42] <fsphil> I'm streaming 96khz iq data over wifi atm using tcp, working nicely
[11:42] <mfa298> Reb-SM0ULC: agreed
[11:42] <fsphil> there is some return traffic, about 1.5% of the uplink
[11:42] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: i stream rtl_tcp 2 MS/s over wifi. no problem. :)
[11:43] <paul_HAB-P> Awesome - thanks - right back to piping :-)
[11:43] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: -s
[11:43] <fsphil> nice
[11:43] <mfa298> as a good example NFS used to offer tcp and udp options with udp often being prefered as it could be faster. I think with NFS4 the udp option has gone as there wasn't enough of a speed advantage
[11:43] <fsphil> the rtl_tcp on a raspberry pi was just nasty
[11:43] <fsphil> so ended up putting my old FCD into it
[11:44] <fsphil> good enough for tracking flights
[11:44] <qyx_> nasty in what way? not enough cpu power?
[11:44] <mfa298> udp also has issues with multihomed servers, as there's no state you can send a packet to one IP and get a response from a different IP
[11:44] <fsphil> qyx_: not sure, suspect the USB bus was just overloaded - it was very choppy
[11:45] <fsphil> the data was going over the usb bus twice - out the rtlsdr and again through the ethernet port
[11:45] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: mm, shouldn't be "that" hard fo put support for fcd into rtl_tcp.. i'll can check if mike has any docs on the protocol
[11:45] <qyx_> ah, i remember someone complaining about the usb->eth thing
[11:46] <fsphil> Reb-SM0ULC: would be super. my initial worry was that it's limited to 8-bit samples
[11:46] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: could a showstopper
[11:46] <fsphil> yea, though I'd be happy to hack some 16-bit support into it
[11:46] <qyx_> does fcd output audio?
[11:46] <Reb-SM0ULC> i've run my dongles wia rpi quite a lot. but maybe 2MS and slower
[11:47] <fsphil> qyx_: yea it appears as an audio device
[11:47] <qyx_> fsphil: you can use vlc \o/
[11:47] <qyx_> or any audio streamer
[11:47] <fsphil> actually just thought about pulseaudio
[11:47] <fsphil> that does network streaming
[11:47] <qyx_> or that
[11:47] <fsphil> it's mostly for control though, rtl_tcp can retune the radio
[11:48] <fsphil> straight from gqrx
[11:48] <fsphil> super handy
[11:48] <Reb-SM0ULC> fsphil: a bad way could be to reduce the 16 to 8 bit before sending
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[11:50] <SA6BSS> jededu: prediction puts edupic in the region of novosibirsk, you saíd it had about 5 days of batt time, it could reach this sdr reciver today http://sdr.24dx.ru/?t=433
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[11:52] <Reb-SM0ULC> paul_HAB-P: i actually runt rtl_tcp over vpn to a machine at work. work pretty ok even with 2-3 MS. my only problem is usually a virtual windows-client
[11:53] <Reb-SM0ULC> no solar on the edupic?
[11:53] <SA6BSS> nop
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[11:54] <SA6BSS> aa batt
[11:55] <Reb-SM0ULC> ah
[12:01] <paul_HAB-P> Reb-SM0ULC - Thanks for the heads up - it's quitting on me after a few seconds right now so I have to try and find whatever gremlin is killing it...
[12:02] <Reb-SM0ULC> paul_HAB-P: you run with gqrx?
[12:03] <Laurenceb_> what kind of batteries is P-30 using?
[12:03] <paul_HAB-P> Reb-SM0ULC - Yes...
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[12:16] <jededu> Cool and thanks SA6BSS
[12:17] <jededu> Im on it :)
[12:23] <Reb-SM0ULC> jededu: still mad for missing out on the asction :)
[12:24] <jededu> Next time Reb-SM0ULC :)
[12:25] <Reb-SM0ULC> yepp :)
[12:34] <Oddstr13> http://www.rtl-sdr.com/new-experimental-r820t-rtl-sdr-driver-tunes-13-mhz-lower/ AWESOME! :D
[12:35] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dY2dV/41217cb3c3.png
[12:35] Nick change: M6XIMan -> MaXimaN
[12:36] Nick change: MaXimaN -> M6XIMaN
[12:36] <Oddstr13> they are talking about romania, assuming RRI :P
[12:37] <Oddstr13> indeed, there's the jingle :D
[12:39] <fsphil> heard rri on drm not so long ago
[12:40] <fsphil> was quite amazed anyone was still using drm
[12:41] <Oddstr13> hehe, well, this is AM, so :P
[12:48] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dY3pj/fe8506a8b2.png
[12:50] <Oddstr13> fsphil: according to RRI's schedule, that's the broadcast for africa :P
[12:52] <Oddstr13> I'm just amazed by the fact that I'm receiving that here in Norway...
[12:52] <fsphil> nice
[12:53] <Oddstr13> with a unmodified RTL-SDR, with a random-wire inndoor antenna
[12:53] <fsphil> HF is so weird
[12:53] <Oddstr13> I see several signals here that probably arn't voice too :P
[12:53] <jededu> Ping upu
[12:53] <Oddstr13> should go check them out ^.^
[12:54] <fsphil> it would be interesting to try this, I could get a wideband view of the local strong QRM
[12:56] <Oddstr13> and there's the good old end-of-transmission tune from RRI :P
[12:56] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: try to run some wspr?
[12:57] <Oddstr13> Reb-SM0ULC: got any instructions?
[12:58] <fsphil> that tune is creepy
[12:59] <Oddstr13> hehe
[12:59] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dY4hT/628eadfee4.png frequency hopping signal of sort?
[12:59] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html
[13:01] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: weird one
[13:04] <Oddstr13> I have a feeling I've seen/heard it before somewhere
[13:06] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dY4V3/47eb20651b.wav
[13:06] <Oddstr13> aha
[13:07] <Oddstr13> http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/PLUTO_II_Radar sounds more or less the same as this thing
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[13:07] <Oddstr13> looks quite different on the waterfall however
[13:10] <Oddstr13> right, wspr
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[13:11] <jededu> If EDUPIC11 is still up it may only be doing 30km/h http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/700hPa/orthographic=39.75,62.82,1124
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[13:15] <storm_> Hi guys, I have started documenting my first ever ballon project STORM in the wiki
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[13:15] <storm_> http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:storm
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[13:15] <storm_> please comment :D
[13:16] <storm_> (links to design files are still missing as I need to update the github folder...)
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[13:20] <Oddstr13> ....that's weird
[13:20] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dY6dn/febba46155.png
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[13:21] <Oddstr13> strong local signal making the receiver less sensitive?
[13:28] <fsphil> probably overloaded it
[13:44] <Oddstr13> Reb-SM0ULC: 1340 -30 2.7 18.106085 -1 PA3DPN JO21 30
[13:54] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: cool :)
[13:55] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: i've never tried that band. ususally just 20/30/40 m
[13:55] <Oddstr13> Reb-SM0ULC: my antenna is by no means optimal :P
[13:55] <Reb-SM0ULC> my antenna is optimal, random wire
[13:55] <Oddstr13> ~1.65m random wire :P
[13:58] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: i have a 1/2 20m dipole "random" one
[13:59] <Oddstr13> hehe
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[14:00] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: also have a 1/4 GP for 20m
[14:01] <Oddstr13> I have a few wifi antennas, does that count? :P
[14:08] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: every metalthingie counts.. :)
[14:08] <Oddstr13> hehe
[14:11] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: mm, no spots for on 17m on my superior piece of ex telephone cable
[14:12] <Oddstr13> 1404 -30 2.7 18.106085 0 PA3DPN JO21 30
[14:12] <Oddstr13> just those two
[14:12] <Oddstr13> same transmitter it seems
[14:14] <Reb-SM0ULC> 20m band?
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[14:15] <Oddstr13> UTCtime, dB, DT, Freq, Drift, Callsign, Grid
[14:15] <Oddstr13> not sure what the 30 is
[14:16] <Oddstr13> that would be 17m, tuned to 18.104600 MHz
[14:17] <Oddstr13> frequency should be withinn 200Hz of that, but I duno if this experimental driver messes that up some
[14:18] <Oddstr13> http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html?qth=JP52AQ&from=JO21
[14:19] <Reb-SM0ULC> Oddstr13: i have a r71e with rtl on if-interface right now
[14:20] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dYc6h/ddb646bd36.png
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[15:55] <storm_> is the wiki down?
[15:56] <UpuWork> probably yes
[15:56] <UpuWork> the servers are being migrated
[15:56] <storm_> ah ok didnt see that
[15:56] <storm_> thx
[15:56] <UpuWork> doubt it will be down long
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[16:02] <UpuWork> wiki is back storm_
[16:03] <UpuWork> dunno if its going off again
[16:03] <DanielRichman> I think we should be good now
[16:15] <Elwell> Q - was the thread about getting gpsctl working with ublox ever resolved? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gpsd-users/2013-09/msg00018.html
[16:15] <UpuWork> oh look that was me
[16:15] <UpuWork> no
[16:15] <UpuWork> however
[16:16] <UpuWork> http://pastebin.com/8pFRpwtQ
[16:16] <UpuWork> totally untested use at your own risk
[16:17] <UpuWork> you'll need to stop gpsd
[16:17] <UpuWork> run it
[16:17] <Elwell> aha. I'm interested in stationary mode (or getting gpsd to pull in the PPS info - I had it once
[16:17] <UpuWork> restart gpsd
[16:17] <Elwell> ta
[16:19] <Elwell> oh fuxocks. hack.c:5:20: fatal error: system.h: No such file or directory
[16:19] <Elwell> yak shaving ahoy
[16:21] <cm13g09> anyone want to recommend a broadband supplier who are not TalkTalk, BT or Virgin? Needs decent traffic levels (~60GB+ a month) at a sane price.... (That immediately excludes people like AAISP - much as I love their service.... it's a little too expensive...)
[16:21] <cm13g09> (totally o/t sorry!)
[16:22] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Using Plusnet (who were taken over y BT) but they have been good for the last couple of years FTTC so no problems speed wise.
[16:23] <cm13g09> oh, and it can't be anything using ISP-provided router....
[16:24] <UpuWork> Zen
[16:24] <cm13g09> UpuWork: I can get AAISP for cheaper....
[16:25] <cm13g09> if I read this right
[16:25] <Elwell> ah fuckit. virtualbox windows + FTDI cable + ucentre time
[16:25] <UpuWork> hmm my view on DSL prices is warped £25 pcm is very cheap imho for decent connectivity
[16:25] <cm13g09> yes,
[16:26] <cm13g09> but I can pay AAISP £32/mo for DSL + phone line
[16:26] <UpuWork> chucking in 100Mb leased connections at £700 a month so go figure :)
[16:26] <cm13g09> UpuWork: I work for an ISP
[16:26] <UpuWork> which one ?
[16:26] <cm13g09> but we don't do domestic :(
[16:26] <cm13g09> Vostron
[16:27] <UpuWork> ok
[16:27] <UpuWork> there aren't many good ISP's in the UK
[16:27] <cm13g09> I know :(
[16:27] <UpuWork> market has been over taken by the bargin basement / coupled services crowd
[16:28] <UpuWork> they are ok for most people
[16:28] <cm13g09> I am with TalkTalk, but they just badly upset me
[16:28] <UpuWork> Personally we us Entanet
[16:28] <UpuWork> use
[16:28] <cm13g09> we're backhauled over Enta.....
[16:28] <UpuWork> who swing from being superb to omg wtf are they doing at an alarming rate
[16:28] <cm13g09> yeah
[16:28] <cm13g09> I can't say I'm a massive fan of Synergi....
[16:28] <UpuWork> haha
[16:29] <cm13g09> it does the job.....
[16:29] <UpuWork> yeah the 486DX100 it runs on does need upgrading
[16:29] <cm13g09> yep :P
[16:29] <UpuWork> About once a year Leeds node runs out of bandwidth
[16:29] <UpuWork> which hits us as we have 150+ customers on it
[16:29] <UpuWork> and we have to scream and shout at them
[16:29] <cm13g09> why else are we now working with the Synergi API.... and doing everything as async background jobs....
[16:29] <Elwell> damn you all. I'm paying ~90 AUD/mo (~50 quid?) for wet string and crap performance. Doubly hard after coming from 100Mb symetric FTTH (which had a POP at my place of work, so <3ms ping to work servers) for 35 EUR/mo
[16:30] <lz1dev> im getting unlimited broadband from sky for 5quid a month
[16:30] <lz1dev> :)
[16:31] <cm13g09> lz1dev: yes, but you have to suffer their Sky Router....
[16:31] <UpuWork> I would argue its not unlimited
[16:31] <UpuWork> at all
[16:31] <UpuWork> try go to the piratebay*
[16:31] <UpuWork> *yes I know its down
[16:31] <lz1dev> oh they filter that
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[16:31] <lz1dev> http runs over some quid proxy
[16:31] <UpuWork> and the rest
[16:31] <lz1dev> squid*
[16:32] <Elwell> I'm actually contemplating jumping from ADSL2+ (ha ha) to cable. Not sure how much of a performce drop there is in peak hours round here
[16:32] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[16:32] <lz1dev> cm13g09: im using an o2 box
[16:32] <lz1dev> sky bought o2 broadband
[16:32] <lz1dev> i've locked down the o2 box
[16:32] <cm13g09> either way
[16:32] <lz1dev> they send me a sky one, even tho i told them to keep it
[16:33] <lz1dev> o2 one had service user with default pass
[16:33] <lz1dev> :|
[16:34] <cm13g09> lol
[16:34] <lz1dev> it's good since i could go in and lock it down
[16:35] <lz1dev> remove all the silly things
[16:36] Action: cm13g09 considers going AAISP fibre
[16:37] <lz1dev> http://i.imgur.com/8zL4W8t.png
[16:37] <Reb-SM0ULC> cm13g09: what speed do you get then?
[16:38] <cm13g09> Reb-SM0ULC: I'm about 50m from the FTTC
[16:39] <cm13g09> They reckon I'm good for the full 80Mbps down and 20Mbps up....
[16:39] <cm13g09> or at worst, 70Mbps down, and 17.7 up....
[16:39] <Reb-SM0ULC> cm13g09: just hate when fiber is not fiber..
[16:40] <Reb-SM0ULC> cm13g09: so it's adsl with fiber?
[16:41] <cm13g09> yeah
[16:42] <cm13g09> it's not FTTP
[16:42] <jededu> TOR is good for piratebay
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[16:43] <lz1dev> hey they actually drop packets to the tbp ips
[16:43] <lz1dev> thats cute
[16:46] <cm13g09> I love aaisp's server naming.....
[16:46] <cm13g09> Clueless - Core database management server
[16:46] <cm13g09> Priceless - Billing server
[16:47] <Reb-SM0ULC> cm13g09: real fiber coming along in uk?
[16:48] <Reb-SM0ULC> cm13g09: fttp i guees i mean
[16:48] <cm13g09> Reb-SM0ULC: slowly.....
[16:48] <cm13g09> in new housing developments, yes
[16:48] <mfa298> cm13g09: I've been happy with eclipse for a long time although I think they've changed their packages again recently
[16:49] <cm13g09> mfa298: They don't do domestic any more.....
[16:49] <cm13g09> by the look of it
[16:50] <mfa298> although I believe AAISP recognise the shibboleet protocol (not shibboleth)
[16:50] <cm13g09> lol
[16:50] Action: cm13g09 goes to talk to EE
[16:51] <mfa298> cm13g09: I'm actually on a business package although not the same as they advertise now (cap only applies 0900-2300)
[16:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PS-30 after 0312 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=PS-30
[16:59] <Reb-SM0ULC> cm13g09: pretty aggressive installations in Sweden but i guees it's becasue of the loooong coppercables
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[17:08] <paul_HAB-P1> Hey guys - would it be ok to post the lower bandwidth FCD+ image URL again please? I can't fin it (although I have found somebody with a windows box :-))
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[17:11] <mfa298> paul_HAB-P1: there should be chanel logs you can search link should be up there ^^ (or /title)
[17:11] <paul_HAB-P1> got it taa...
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[18:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03KF5PGW-1 after 032 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=KF5PGW-1
[18:15] <paul_HAB-P> So - flashed the low bandwidth firmware onto the FCD+ and still cannot see it via lsusb when directly connected to a Beaglebone Black running: 3.8.13-bone63 kernel. Very frustrating.
[18:16] <Laurenceb_> oh god BBB
[18:16] <paul_HAB-P> Bad?
[18:16] <Laurenceb_> yeah the USB is horrible broken
[18:16] <Laurenceb_> beyond belief
[18:17] <paul_HAB-P> Worse than Blackberry?
[18:17] <paul_HAB-P> sorry mean Raspberry lol
[18:17] <Laurenceb_> yup
[18:17] <paul_HAB-P> crap. (excuse my french)
[18:17] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[18:17] <Laurenceb_> its unimaginable that something could be worth than Rpi
[18:17] <Laurenceb_> but it is
[18:18] <Laurenceb_> try booting the the FCD+ already attached
[18:18] <paul_HAB-P> yup just did that...
[18:18] <Laurenceb_> :-/
[18:18] <Laurenceb_> dont know what to suggest then
[18:18] <paul_HAB-P> no harm in doing it again. You know what they say about doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome...
[18:22] <db_g6gzh> mine only enumerates the FCD (not + in my case) at power on, it won't hot-plug
[18:22] <db_g6gzh> but it works fine once it's found it
[18:22] <paul_HAB-P> hmmm. rebooted. still no FCD+ :/
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[18:24] <paul_HAB-P> right ok. time to switch distro's and give the RTL a shot again...
[18:24] <db_g6gzh> upgrade to 3.8.13-bone67
[18:24] <db_g6gzh> that's what fixed it for me
[18:24] <db_g6gzh> fsvo fixed
[18:24] <paul_HAB-P> Thanks - I'll do that :)
[18:24] <db_g6gzh> anyway got to go - food
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[18:28] Action: Laurenceb_ was trying to get a GoPro to do SSDV
[18:28] Action: Laurenceb_ gave up
[18:28] <Laurenceb_> there is a slight "glitch" with habhub tracker
[18:29] <Laurenceb_> surely floater flights need to display their entire flight history if they have been active in last <x> days?
[18:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> How do you reliably define a floater ?
[18:31] <Laurenceb_> hmm
[18:31] <Laurenceb_> just search for flight log points?
[18:32] <Laurenceb_> ooh AETH31-8 is going for circumnavigation
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[18:33] <lz1dev> we would've had the whole track if Upu didn't nuke it
[18:33] <Upu> :/
[18:33] <lz1dev> :)
[18:33] <lz1dev> beep 
[18:34] <Laurenceb_> huh
[18:34] <Laurenceb_> if i select "All", everything is there
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[18:35] <lz1dev> what did you expect? :D
[18:36] <Laurenceb_> if(current_time-last_point_for_payload< <time>) display entire track for payload
[18:38] <lz1dev> the idea is too only see the track for X time
[18:38] <lz1dev> what is missing is way to quickly filter things
[18:38] <lz1dev> like a search box
[18:39] <jededu> ping upu
[18:39] <Laurenceb_> say i want to plot P-30
[18:39] <Laurenceb_> i cant atm
[18:39] <Laurenceb_> unless i load all of B-64 etc
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[18:40] <lz1dev> !track PS-30&mode=All
[18:40] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Here you go - 12http://habhub.org/t/?filter=PS-30&mode=All
[18:40] <lz1dev> bot pls
[18:40] <lz1dev> thx
[18:41] <qyx_> deosnt wrok
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[18:41] <qyx_> it freezes on habhub logo again O:)
[18:42] <lz1dev> not my fault mozilla can't fix the bug i've reported
[18:42] <lz1dev> since forever
[18:42] <qyx_> hmm, so its ff bug? any link?
[18:43] <lz1dev> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2b1ce9e015a4
[18:44] <lz1dev> possible fix "
[18:44] <lz1dev> target release is v37
[18:45] <Laurenceb_> lol 37
[18:46] <lz1dev> i'd test it, but you can't replicate it reliably
[18:47] <lz1dev> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJjLPisvMBg
[18:52] <lz1dev> qyx_: alternatively you can clear your cache andt will work
[18:52] <lz1dev> shift+f2 app+tab enter
[18:57] <qyx_> i should downgrade back do 3.6.12
[18:57] <qyx_> my beloved one
[18:58] <lz1dev> release date for r37 is 7th of april
[18:58] <lz1dev> :)
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[19:00] <lz1dev> ff is fine, they just need to stop releasing broken stuff
[19:00] <lz1dev> and stop changing the ui constantly
[19:01] <qyx_> whats wrong with that, ms also does it!
[19:01] <lz1dev> ms are so bad
[19:01] <lz1dev> they are making a new browser
[19:01] <lz1dev> while still keeping IE
[19:01] <qyx_> :P
[19:01] <qyx_> wat
[19:01] <lz1dev> it's called spartan
[19:02] <lz1dev> probably working name
[19:02] <qyx_> are they using some engine which is already working?
[19:02] <qyx_> or are they going to make a new one
[19:02] <qyx_> incompatible again with everything else
[19:04] <lz1dev> oh no
[19:04] <lz1dev> they are using the same tech they have for IE
[19:04] <lz1dev> but it's going to be ligher
[19:05] <lz1dev> im sure it will be full of laughs
[19:05] <lz1dev> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DbgiOCTQts
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[19:51] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5PGW-3 - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=KF5PGW-3
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[20:49] <paul_HAB-P> Ok - Finally got the BBB to see the FCD+ - installed Latest Kernel, which then told me that the FCD+ was overcurrenting the USB - so slapped a hub in and it's detected... arecord has overruns but at least thats a new wall to beat my head on :-)
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[21:04] <Laurenceb_> ah yeah the overcurrent issue
[21:04] <Laurenceb_> BBB hardware is all wrong :-/
[21:05] <Laurenceb_> i had to hack my board to fix it
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[21:05] <Laurenceb_> added some capacitance on the USB host, and a GPIO jumper to reset the usb from user space
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[21:12] <paul_HAB-P> yeah at least it's a step in the right direction :)
[21:12] <paul_HAB-P> like the gpio idea...
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[21:27] <arjunnaha> Hey
[21:29] <craag> Hi
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[21:38] <storm_> anyone got any exprience with this antenna (http://www.thiecom.de/aby7lb-70cm-band-richtantenne.html?sid=dd9f41a3c61d0ea87d9a72d7f07130d8) for 343MHz?
[21:38] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 7 lbs = 3.2 kg
[21:39] <qyx_> lol 7lb
[21:39] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 7 lbs = 3.2 kg
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[21:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03LZ0SKY - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=LZ0SKY
[21:54] <jed_edu> ping upu
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[21:57] <Geoff-G8DHE> storm_, looks OK, its a straight Yagi so not much different from any other, the frequency range looks a bit optimistic but you would be using it nearer the center anyway
[21:59] <storm_> well acutally slighlty below the specified lower frequency
[21:59] <storm_> 343MHz vs 350-500
[21:59] <storm_> probably does not have a large effect?
[21:59] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh I thought that was a typo for 434MHz !
[22:00] <storm_> ups yes it was
[22:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> I doubt that you will get 6dBi at 350MHz
[22:00] <storm_> realy to myself today, sry to bother ;)
[22:00] <storm_> *not myself
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[22:00] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
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[22:09] <Upu> ping jed_edu
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[22:21] <jed_edu> Hi upu
[22:22] <Upu> hey Jed
[22:22] <jed_edu> Did you ever try DominoEX with the MTX2 ?
[22:22] <Upu> nope
[22:22] <Upu> well yes with an LMT2
[22:22] <Upu> via a DAC
[22:24] <jed_edu> mmm I dont know why but the MTX2 seems a bit more difficult to set up than the NTX2B could it be the resistor value its at 297k
[22:25] <jed_edu> as opposed to 150 ish on the NTX2B
[22:26] <Upu> I had to change the resistor on the Pits+ for the mTX2
[22:29] <jed_edu> Ok just wondered if you had tried it, it works but there is very little movement on the resistor value
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[22:32] <Upu> nope
[22:32] <Upu> not on the MTX2
[22:32] <Laurenceb_> PS-30 about to make a week
[22:32] <Laurenceb_> very good going
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[22:34] <fsphil> nice to see wspr being used
[22:35] <Upu> oh is that how its reporting
[22:35] <Upu> thats great I did wonder
[22:35] <Upu> what frequecny ?
[22:35] <Upu> frequency
[22:35] <fsphil> good question
[22:35] <fsphil> Laurenceb_: what was the link to it on wsprnet?
[22:37] <fsphil> oh it'll be on the map
[22:37] <fsphil> can't be many stations out there
[22:37] <Reb-SM0ULC> put VK3YT in the searchbox
[22:38] <fsphil> there it is
[22:38] <fsphil> just found it
[22:38] <fsphil> being heard in NZ
[22:39] <fsphil> it's on 14mhz only
[22:39] <fsphil> 10mw of power
[22:39] <fsphil> love it
[22:40] <Upu> wow
[22:40] <Laurenceb_> hmm
[22:40] <Laurenceb_> they managed to get a packet to Belgium last time
[22:40] <Laurenceb_> need to check on wsprnet
[22:41] <Reb-SM0ULC> Laurenceb_: you can download all logs, but this time only ZL1RS as reporter
[22:41] <fsphil> all the packets in the last 24 hours where received in NZ
[22:42] <Laurenceb_> must be propagation weirdness
[22:42] <Reb-SM0ULC> and maybe a bit stupid not to randomize the freuency
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[22:47] <qyx_> fsphil: wsprnet.org
[22:47] <Reb-SM0ULC> wow, the first one in africe i've seen
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[22:49] <Reb-SM0ULC> i guess they run the telemetry on JT
[22:58] <Laurenceb_> must be custom envelope?
[23:03] <jiffe> B64 gone?
[23:05] <SpeedEvil> jiffe: almost certainly
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[23:06] <jiffe> I hadn't checked in a couple months, looks like 11/23 is its last report
[23:06] <jiffe> 149,904.60 miles
[23:06] <jiffe> that's pretty awesome
[23:06] <jiffe> next closest is 8,777.50 miles
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[23:43] <Laurenceb_> any sed experts here?
[23:43] <Laurenceb_> i need to swap "Time \(seconds\)" with "Time post release \(seconds\)"
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[23:52] <DanielRichman> Laurenceb_: use python
[23:54] <qyx_> Laurenceb_: s/Time/Time post release/
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[23:56] <mfa298> if that's the complete line maybe somethign like s/^Time \(([0-9]+)\)$/Time post release \(\1\)/ (not tested)
[23:57] <mfa298> means you don't match any other instances of Time
[23:58] <mfa298> or use perl as it has the same regex/substitution stuff build in.
[23:58] Action: mfa298 gets flame proof jacket
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