highaltitude.log.20141221

[00:00] <mattbrejza> such as a pencil pushed in the end? :P
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[00:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BALLOONOLO-4 - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=BALLOONOLO-4
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[00:27] <Ian_> Ha ha, I must be losing my creativity - good call.
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[00:49] <HF_ATL> rtty for the balloonolo-4
[00:49] <HF_ATL> ?
[00:55] <Darkside> its just in testing
[00:55] <Darkside> no launch
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[01:09] <Maxell> !payload BALLOONOLO-4
[01:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[01:19] <HF_ATL> 28 miles near me~
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[03:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HS1JAN-11 - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=HS1JAN-11
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[04:41] <lz1dev> !aprs info HS1JAN-11
[04:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03HS1JAN-11 is near 03Sai Noi District, Nonthaburi, Thailand 10(13.90233,100.288) at 039955 meters - 12http://aprs.fi/info/HS1JAN-11
[04:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Path: 03HS1JAN-11>APGJW6-1 via 03qAR,HS0TK
[04:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Symbol: 03O/ Speed: 0333kmph Course: 03352°
[04:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Comment: 03:dev 0.0KHz
[04:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Status: 03{EZTRAK}2.1F:dev 0.0KHz
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[04:44] <lz1dev> !aprs info HS1JAN-11
[04:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03HS1JAN-11 is near 03Sai Noi District, Nonthaburi, Thailand 10(13.91533,100.28866) - 12http://aprs.fi/info/HS1JAN-11
[04:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Path: 03HS1JAN-11>APGJW6-1 via 03qAR,E22OYG-6
[04:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Symbol: 03O/
[04:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Comment: 03[t-728v0765a0002]MSBAT-4 Stratosphere mission:dev 0.0KHz
[04:44] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Status: 03{EZTRAK}2.1F:dev 0.0KHz
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[05:23] <lz1dev> !aprs add G-08
[05:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03G-08 to APRS Importer
[05:23] <lz1dev> !aprs remove G-08
[05:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Removed 03G-08 from APRS Importer
[05:23] <lz1dev> !hysplit add G-08
[05:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03G-08 to defaults
[05:23] <lz1dev> !hysplit rerun
[05:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Running HYSPLIT jobs for all defaults. Hold on to your hats
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[07:58] <jcoxon> morning edmoore
[07:58] <edmoore> morn jcoxon
[07:58] <jcoxon> hows tricks?
[08:01] <edmoore> great - am at parents
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[08:01] <edmoore> done for the year
[08:01] <edmoore> you?
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[08:02] <jcoxon> yeah good, got work mon-weds
[08:02] <jcoxon> have emma and martin staying which has been fun
[08:02] <jcoxon> been building my 3d printer
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[08:07] <edmoore> oh yeah!
[08:07] <edmoore> awesome
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[08:07] <edmoore> printed anything yet?
[08:07] <edmoore> or hours/days of calibration fun?
[08:09] <jcoxon> still in the endless construction phase
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[08:10] <jcoxon> and as you build it the rest of it wiggles free so you then have to recalibrate it
[08:10] <edmoore> lol
[08:12] <jcoxon> but i'm now in the electronics section of the build
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[08:12] <jcoxon> so it looks cool at least
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[08:14] <SA6BSS> !hysplit G-08
[08:14] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS: HYSPLIT for 03G-08 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141221-05_179175_G08.gif
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[08:19] <qyx_> morning
[08:19] <qyx_> any info about helios? was it recovered?
[08:20] <lz1dev> lol :)
[08:21] <qyx_> this wasnt't supposed to be a joke!
[08:21] <qyx_> -t
[08:21] <lz1dev> oh
[08:22] <lz1dev> between the 11km altitude position and the last one at 7000m
[08:22] <lz1dev> the prediction covered an area of few kms
[08:22] <lz1dev> apperantly, they were driving around looking for a single
[08:22] <lz1dev> both sms tracker failed too apperantly
[08:23] <lz1dev> single=signal
[08:23] <qyx_> i still want to know if it was lake or tree :(
[08:23] <edmoore> i was gonna say
[08:23] <edmoore> they'd have a better chance of finding an album
[08:23] <SA6BSS> I think Reb-SM0ULC was on a chat with them were they said "batteries probably emty, no signal can be found, giving up for today.
[08:23] <SA6BSS> the gsm tracker just sent emty sms
[08:24] <edmoore> it didn't give off vibes of being well tested
[08:24] <lz1dev> putting it mildly :P
[08:24] <SA6BSS> no, amazing they got the tracker going
[08:25] <lz1dev> what do you mean?
[08:26] <craag> Been away over the weekend, but last I heard they'd taken one look at dlfldigi and decided they cba
[08:29] <lz1dev> it maybe look complicated on a first look
[08:29] <craag> It does
[08:29] <lz1dev> but in reality you don't use 95% of the functionality
[08:31] <lz1dev> what did they use for sms trackers
[08:32] <craag> Could be fake tk102s - I have one that sent empty co-ords sometimes if it had an intermittent lock
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[09:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03?????_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=%3F%3F%3F%3F%3F_chase
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[09:56] <Babs> ping mattbrejza
[09:56] <edmoore> pong
[09:56] <edmoore> i'm not matt
[09:57] <edmoore> nor am i here
[10:08] <Babs> i am not sure there is a concept of "here" on IRC
[10:10] <edmoore> there is but probably not in euclidean space
[10:12] <edmoore> bbl
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[10:48] <gonzo__> We are all here, because we are not all there.
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[11:09] <mattbrejza> hey Babs
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[11:21] <Babs> mattbrejza - worked it out
[11:21] <Babs> nothing to do with the multiplication of the bytes (as you suspected)
[11:21] <Babs> you can't d calcs inside the abs function otherwise it throws out screwy results
[11:22] <qyx_> huh?
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[11:24] <mattbrejza> it probably would have worked if you had put casts in the right place
[11:25] <mattbrejza> but doing it over multiple lines makes it clearer anyway
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[11:30] <Babs> the bit shifted calculation of longitude and the multiplication route gave the same results, so i eliminated tha possibiity
[11:30] <Babs> *that
[11:30] <Babs> and then on the def of abs function in arduino.cc it just said not to try anything in terms of calculating within the function
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[11:31] <Babs> if i had thought about it it made sense that it was the abs piece
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[11:34] <qyx_> i hope they are kidding, i am reading it now
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[13:01] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[13:10] <mattbrejza> arduino abs: #define abs(x) ((x)>0?(x):-(x))
[13:12] <mattbrejza> not sure why that would cause issues though
[13:13] <bertrik> if your x expression has a side effect, it will be executed more than once
[13:13] <bertrik> like if x is something like y++
[13:13] <mattbrejza> oh right
[13:13] <mattbrejza> not sure about bab's code though
[13:14] <mattbrejza> decimal_latitude = abs(((base_latitude_output % 10000000)/1000)); ?
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[13:16] <bertrik> maybe 10000000 overflows an integer, not sure how large an integer on arduino is
[13:16] <bertrik> a possible fix would be to use 10000000L
[13:17] <mattbrejza> weird thing was that it was working for latitude but not longitude when the code was the same
[13:19] <craag> pos/neg issue?
[13:19] <lz1dev> mattbrejza> decimal_latitude = abs(((base_latitude_output % 10000000)/1000));
[13:19] <mattbrejza> the length of int varies depending on what arduino board you use lol
[13:19] <lz1dev> lolwat
[13:20] <lz1dev> redefine int as long
[13:20] <lz1dev> lol
[13:20] <mattbrejza> anyway, back to c for stm32 where everything is happier
[13:22] <lz1dev> it's hard to believe anything in C is happier
[13:23] <mattbrejza> as opposed to c++ and whatever else arduino does for you
[13:24] <qyx_> actually C integer is defined to be minimally 16bit long
[13:24] <qyx_> so its perfeclty valid it is just 16bit on 8bit arduino
[13:24] <qyx_> but still pffff
[13:28] <lz1dev> mattbrejza: reminds me of http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/47947981
[13:28] <lz1dev> actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48kP_Ssg2eY
[13:28] <lz1dev> if ustream doesn't work
[13:29] <mattbrejza> ustream has a thing of stopping just as a washing machine lands on a comet or a rocket launches... ¬.¬
[13:29] <lz1dev> exactly
[13:40] <daveake> Steve's streaming from his last launch seemed to work well
[13:44] <qyx_> was it rocket?
[14:01] <SpeedEvil> Meanwhile - in soviet russia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tbm-cgpGfg
[14:01] <SpeedEvil> http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-roofers-free-ride-on-battleship-aurora-in-daring-stunt-video/507521.html
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[14:09] <daveake> qyx_ No, balloon. He was using Youtube streaming from the launch
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[15:05] <daveake> Apparently "Frozen" isn't just a movie; it also describes the lake that yesterday's flight managed to land on
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[15:08] <qyx_> any news?
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd7c5tQCs1I on the topic of frozen water.
[15:09] <SpeedEvil> And very funny germans.
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> didn't we talk about landing on frozen waterbodies?
[15:11] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[15:11] <daveake> true LL :)
[15:11] <daveake> Apparently someone spotted the payload on an icy lake
[15:11] <daveake> That's all I know
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> ROFL ouch!!!
[15:12] <Lunar_Lander> the camera dude xD
[15:15] <qyx_> so it was lake \o/
[15:23] <daveake> Yes :)
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[16:14] <fsphil> cool!
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[16:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03SPL1 after 03a day silence - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=SPL1
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[17:19] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9RSU chasing car_chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=HB9RSU%20chasing%20car_chase
[17:20] <lz1dev>  _ 
[17:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HB9RSU _chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=HB9RSU%20_chase
[17:20] <lz1dev>  _ 
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[17:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI_SKY_LORA - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=PI_SKY_LORA
[17:51] <lz1dev> apperantly AETH32-2 -4 are stuck transmitting the same coordinates for the least 24 hours
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[18:14] <Oddstr13> http://puu.sh/dDRir/b1174adc9e.png any idea of what this might be?
[18:15] <Oddstr13> it's slowly drifting down in frequency
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[18:17] <cuddykid> ping Upu
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[18:20] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SUSF-chase - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=SUSF-chase
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[18:26] <Maxell> lz1dev: haha
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[18:47] <mattbrejza> !whereis SUSF-chase
[18:47] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: 03SUSF-chase was near 03Al Khalidiyah - Abu Dhabi - United Arab Emirates 10(24.4754,54.3443) at 030 meters about 0315 minutes ago
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[18:48] <craag> ;)
[18:48] <edmoore> i'd replace that satnav
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[18:52] <fsphil> Oddstr13: probably a noisy PSU somewhere nearby
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[18:55] <mfa298> edmoore: either that or someones gone somewhere warmer for Christmas
[18:55] <edmoore> they're quite good at air conditioning there
[18:56] <edmoore> wouldn't be surprised if the average living room with fire in england is warmer
[18:56] <mfa298> warmer outside though.
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[19:28] <Lunar_Lander> hi mclane_
[19:29] <mclane_> Hi Lunar_Lander
[19:29] <edmoore> given Lunar has a german accent I'm imagining this conversation will proceed somewhat similarly to as in Die Hard
[19:30] <Lunar_Lander> like "schiess den fenster"?
[19:31] <edmoore> exactly
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[19:32] <Babs> i considered entering our Christmas jumper competition with a sweatshirt daubed with "Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho."
[19:32] <Babs> chickened out
[19:32] <Babs> or turkeyed out as the case may be
[19:32] <Lunar_Lander> :D
[19:34] <edmoore> at a Rhode and Schwarz (expensive test gear) course I was on, the instructor was pleasingly authoritative and german, and when he asked us how to handle sample images appearing in the passband on a VNA, someone said 'disregard them'
[19:35] <edmoore> to which he replied, just like alan rickman in that film (absolute disdain) 'my dear fellow, zis is rhode unt schwarz. one does not simply _disregard_ zees sings'
[19:35] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[19:36] <edmoore> you had to be there, but it was quite a put-down
[19:37] <Lunar_Lander> yea can understand that
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[19:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-11 - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=WB8ELK-11
[19:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-15 - 12http://habhub.org/t/?focus=WB8ELK-15
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