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[00:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03hhjjk_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=hhjjk_chase
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[08:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03YAM-1 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=YAM-1
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[12:26] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[12:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03STBUG2-1 after 037 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=STBUG2-1
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[12:32] <Lunar_LanderU> hello
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[12:46] <Reb-SM0ULC> hello
[12:48] <edmoore> hello
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[13:02] <henryplumb> Afternoon all
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[13:14] <edmoore> hi henryplumb
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[13:48] <henryplumb> Undecided on what camera to use for recording on my payload. I've got a PiCam to do HD photos and SSDV - what do you lot think?
[13:49] <Laurenceb_> i know how not to do it
[13:49] Action: Laurenceb_ has been trying to do GoPro -> beaglebone black
[13:49] <Laurenceb_> dont even think about trying
[13:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Picam is OK, but it does have a nasty red reflection problem (as do many cameras) when the sun is in view
[13:50] <Laurenceb_> disaster zone
[13:50] <Laurenceb_> unless you are prepared to write your own kernel
[13:50] <SpeedEvil> Or sun-shield
[13:51] <henryplumb> I only want to use the PiCam for SSDV and hopefully a couple of photos will turn out nice
[13:51] <henryplumb> Just what to use for the HD video is the sticking point
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> If you don't want live video, your choice is way open
[13:51] <henryplumb> No live video, just to record
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> Gopro is obviously deent
[13:51] <SpeedEvil> cent
[13:52] <henryplumb> And expensive :P
[13:52] <SpeedEvil> Next you're going to say you want lightweight too :)
[13:52] <henryplumb> Haha :L
[13:52] <Laurenceb_> gopro can be stripped down to ~65grams or so
[14:07] <fsphil> if price is a big concern, you could just use the picam for video too
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[15:02] <PE2G> A met-sonde landing on the German Fassberg Airbase caused a bomb scare yesterday. A large area was closed off. Police, the ambulance service, local fire brigade, airport fire brigade and an army bomb disposal team were scrambled. Here is the news paper report in German: http://www.cellesche-zeitung.de/S3581628/Wetterballon-statt-Bombe-in-Fassberg
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[15:09] <fsphil> so that's what they meant by weather bomb
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[15:13] <cm13g09> fsphil: LOL
[15:15] <tjanos> good afternoon
[15:15] <PE2G> Yeah :) These two sondes were launched by a military weather station (Meppen)
[15:16] <tjanos> do you have any more info about the Astro Pi board?
[15:16] <tjanos> It seems it is a RGB LED board only with a B+ Pi
[15:16] <tjanos> http://www.raspberrypi.org/astro-pi/
[15:18] <tjanos> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IMG_8883s.jpg
[15:19] <edmoore> tjanos, it says in the article
[15:19] <edmoore> "Dave: The Astro Pi board will be a Raspberry Pi HAT and will comprise the following:"
[15:19] <edmoore> followed by a list of features
[15:20] <tjanos> Are there sensors on this LED board? or will bedesigne another board?
[15:24] <BrainDamage> again it's answered in your own link
[15:24] <BrainDamage> the first one
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[15:29] <tjanos> Thank you! In this text reffered as "Astro Pi computer"
[15:30] <tjanos> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/send-your-computer-code-into-space-with-astronaut-tim-peake
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[15:50] <arjunnaha> Where does one place camera's on the payload to get the best image - we have 2 gopro's and 2 normal camera's
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[15:54] <lz1dev> there are three things you can point at
[15:54] <lz1dev> 1. downward to capture the moments just after the release, where everyone is looking up
[15:54] <lz1dev> and I guess throughout the flight
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[15:55] <lz1dev> 2. at 45 degree angle, so you get a nice edge, with more of the ground underneat
[15:55] <lz1dev> 3. looking up at the balloon, mainly to capture the moment it pops
[15:56] <qyx_> 4. selfie
[15:57] <arjunnaha> So, to get images like this - http://ukhas.org.uk/_media/haps-d_pan1_small2.jpg - where would it need to be placed?
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[15:59] <lz1dev> 45 degree downward from horizontal
[15:59] <lz1dev> that image is stiched together from multiple shots
[15:59] <lz1dev> probably the same camera, while the payload was rotating
[16:00] <arjunnaha> okay thanks lz1dev
[16:00] <lz1dev> or it could be CGI one, nto sure
[16:01] <UpuWork> straight out of the side of the payload
[16:01] <UpuWork> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63720513/Images/IMG_0248.JPG
[16:01] <UpuWork> then stick in Microsoft ICE
[16:02] <UpuWork> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63720513/Images/HAB/Nosebleed/u7kJZ.jpg
[16:02] <UpuWork> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63720513/Images/HAB/Nosebleed/7738842830_0bcf3b4c1b_k_stitch.jpg
[16:02] <UpuWork> etc
[16:02] <lz1dev> arjunnaha: it depends on the camera
[16:03] <lz1dev> a wide angle, such a the gopro is probably best pointed slighly downward
[16:03] <lz1dev> as anything upward is just blackness
[16:03] <UpuWork> those were Canon A560's
[16:04] <lz1dev> the regular cameras will likely have norrower FOV
[16:04] <lz1dev> than the gopros
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[16:10] <arjunnaha> thanks so much for the info (i'm pretty much a n00b at hab so far...)
[16:13] <arjunnaha> quick question...how do I achieve free lift as shown on the wiki
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[16:22] <arjunnaha> daveake: how much the pits+ board weigh?
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[16:30] <dimon> hi, any one there? does anyone can tell me that how to measure the height of a HAB in the sky? sensor? or sth else? THX
[16:31] <mclane_> gps
[16:31] <mclane_> ublox from upu
[16:32] <SpeedEvil> GPS or barometer
[16:32] <SpeedEvil> GPS is easier and more accurate
[16:32] <SpeedEvil> and also gives you position.
[16:32] <SpeedEvil> Though a rope is much simpler
[16:33] <x-f> rope is more expensive than a GPS
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> Not a short rope.
[16:33] <mclane_> 35 km of rope?!?
[16:33] <dimon> like spot trace?
[16:33] <SpeedEvil> dimon: SPOT doesn't do altitude.
[16:34] <SpeedEvil> dimon: What are you trying to do. Where in the world are you. There are a number of approaches - the best one will ary
[16:36] <dimon> so the best way will be?
[16:36] <edmoore> gps
[16:37] <SpeedEvil> Almost certainly. But GPS alone doesn't help you unless you've got a helicopter
[16:37] Action: UpuWork looks at SpeedEvil
[16:37] Action: SpeedEvil does not have a helicopter. :(
[16:38] <UpuWork> GPS module
[16:38] <UpuWork> pressure sensors that are affordable generally lack the resolution to work at higher altitudes
[16:38] <SpeedEvil> Depending on what altitude that's whated information about
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> But yes, regrettably
[16:43] <arjunnaha> UpuWork: how did you get the canon running for the whole flight (CHDK, i presume- which script?)
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[16:46] <edmoore> you can write your own chdk script asily arjunnaha
[16:46] <edmoore> it's not something you need to download from anywhere
[16:49] <UpuWork> I did a very simple script
[16:49] <UpuWork> take a picture wait 10 sec repeat
[16:49] <UpuWork> just make sure the camera is not set to auto power off
[16:49] <UpuWork> JGC's excellent script which checks all the settings before running is up on GSBC Forum
[16:49] <daveake> and switch the screen off to save power
[16:50] <UpuWork> You will need to modify the script as it may not work with your camera
[16:50] <UpuWork> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgh4u7lrs51xqn7/gaga2.lua?dl=0
[16:50] <arjunnaha> Ah, thanks guys
[16:50] <UpuWork> try do your own
[16:51] <UpuWork> and test the crap out of it
[16:52] <edmoore> or crap the test out of it
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[16:58] <mcbcurator> Who runs the STBUGs?
[16:59] <edmoore> what is stbugs?
[16:59] <mcbcurator> those balloons that have been travelling across the US the past couple days.
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[18:30] <lz1dev> mcbcurator: no idea, those are APRS balloon and automatically imported
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[19:09] <SpeedEvil> Oooh
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> Clones of that sony thing
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> link.e.dx.com/r/link/511f2II70c971540II37ba8II8802d7II70c971561II3
[19:09] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dx.com/p/amkov-jq-x5-360-degree-rotation-14-0mp-5x-zoom-selfie-lens-for-smartphone-tablet-pc-white-356967?utm_source=dx&utm_medium=edm&utm_campaign=other20141212newarrivalsdec
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[19:10] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[19:10] <SpeedEvil> Evening
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[21:15] <amell_> !ping b-64
[21:15] <SpacenearUS> 03amell_: Last contact with 03B-64 was 0318 days ago
[21:15] <staylo> ping timeout
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[21:24] <Myself> http://sadtrombone.com/?play=true
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[21:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03YAM-1 after 0313 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=YAM-1
[22:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03KF5PGW-2 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=KF5PGW-2
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[22:52] <Laurenceb__> http://www.ebay.com/itm/221627184369
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[23:06] <amell_> laurenceb_: looks really useful
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[23:38] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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