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[10:51] <paul_HABnoob> Sorry for noob question. How do I get a callsign for my Habduino?
[10:53] <x-f> you make it up, change the relevant line in the code and upload a new version to your Arduino
[10:54] <paul_HABnoob> Cool. Taa.
[10:55] <craag> (you will need to make a payload doc with that callsign on habitat to then link it to the map)
[10:56] <paul_HABnoob> aha - thats the glue.
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[11:23] <paul_HABnoob> Does anybody know if I can power the Habduino from a Uno?
[11:28] <craag> It's a good idea to use a proper power supply or batteries
[11:28] <craag> A usb port (if that's what's powering your uno), may not be able to run the gps AND transmitter
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[11:32] <UpuWork> yes you can power from the USB paul_HABnoob
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[11:32] <craag> oh?
[11:33] <UpuWork> yeah it can power the lot
[11:33] <craag> We've had problems running gps+ntx2b off usb ports
[11:33] <UpuWork> maybe my PC seems to work
[11:33] <paul_HABnoob> I was planning to use a large lipo and a 5v stepup
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[11:34] <fsphil> on a flight? not sure I'd trust a USB plug
[11:34] <UpuWork> just use the supplied 2 x AA holder and 2 x Energizer Lithium Ultimates
[11:34] <paul_HABnoob> yup but I have to power the UNO as well right? (or does the 2xAA power the UNO too?)
[11:35] <UpuWork> no 2 x AA powers the Uno too
[11:35] <UpuWork> you can use rechargables for testing
[11:35] <UpuWork> the board back powers the Uno for flight
[11:35] <paul_HABnoob> Awesome!
[11:35] <UpuWork> however don't plug USB and batteries in at the same time
[11:35] <UpuWork> it will probably be ok
[11:36] <UpuWork> but don't do it anyway
[11:36] <paul_HABnoob> yup read that in the manual..
[11:36] <UpuWork> you read the manual ?
[11:36] <paul_HABnoob> lol
[11:36] <UpuWork> my work here is done
[11:36] <UpuWork> by friends I shall return to my home planet now
[11:36] <edmoore> has that ever happened before?
[11:36] <UpuWork> s/by/bye
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[11:38] <fsphil> haha
[11:39] <fsphil> it finally happened
[11:39] <paul_HABnoob> knew I shouldn't have said the bit about reading the manual - if it helps, it's left me with almost as many questions as when I started...
[11:39] <UpuWork> thats ok
[11:39] <UpuWork> its just a rough draft ask away
[11:41] <paul_HABnoob> i'm kidding. its good. Would like to know more about power supply ranges as I am going to power a GSM/GPRS tracker / logger as well and it seems daft doubling up on batteries
[11:42] <UpuWork> input voltage is 1.2- 6V
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[11:42] <UpuWork> it can do about 600mA but I would suggest you don't got above 500mA
[11:42] <UpuWork> the board itself I believe takes about 200mA ish I need to double check it
[11:42] <UpuWork> it maybe less
[11:44] <paul_HABnoob> thats good. Ordered a 6AH Lipo. Wil use it if its not too heavy
[11:45] <UpuWork> would still suggest Energizer Lithiums
[11:47] <paul_HABnoob> still early enough to change my mind if I have to :)
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[14:34] <henryplumb> Afternoon :)
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[15:09] <day-> !ping B-64
[15:09] <SpacenearUS> 03day-: Last contact with 03B-64 was 0316 days ago
[15:09] <day-> noooo
[15:09] Nick change: day- -> day
[15:11] <UpuWork> it is likely to have expired
[15:11] <SpeedEvil> It's just resting.
[15:12] <henryplumb> Hi all. Suggestions best car mount 433mhz antenna? :)
[15:14] <craag> henryplumb: http://cpc.farnell.com/watson/wsm-270/wsm-270-mini-mag-antenna/dp/IT44456
[15:15] <henryplumb> craag - you had good experiences with it?
[15:16] <henryplumb> Planning my launch and i and to make sure I'm prepared :)
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[15:16] <craag> I haven't used that one personally, but I've seen people using it and they recommend it.
[15:17] <henryplumb> Excellent
[15:17] <henryplumb> What connector does it have?
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[15:20] <fsphil> henryplumb: BNC, but comes with BNC > SMA adaptor
[15:20] <fsphil> I've used it on a few chases, it's good for the price
[15:21] <fsphil> although I see it's more expensive now than it used to be
[15:21] <henryplumb> I've got MVT-7100 so bnc is best for me
[15:21] <henryplumb> At £15 can't go wrong really
[15:25] <henryplumb> Would you say the CPC one or something like http://www.aliexpress.com/item/NAGOYA-UT-106UV-Dual-Band-Magnetic-Vehicle-mounted-BNC-Antenna-For-Two-Way-Radio-IC-V8/32224891851.html
[15:26] <mfa298> that appears to cost 3 times as much to ship as the item costs!
[15:26] <fsphil> can't speak for that one, but all the little magmounts I've got from DX or similar have really crap magnets
[15:27] <fsphil> and yea that postage is insane
[15:27] <henryplumb> Oops didn't notice that
[15:27] <fsphil> cpc have free postage if the order is above a certain amount
[15:28] <mfa298> and I think for 2-3 day shipping that limit is very low (£5 or something like that )
[15:28] <henryplumb> Okay - think I'll go for the cpc one :)
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[15:32] <henryplumb> Ordered it - thanks for your help
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[16:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH31-9 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH31-9
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[16:27] <Laurenceb_> more AETH
[16:28] <Laurenceb_> they need to fix their batteries and geofence
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[16:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH31-9 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH31-9
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[17:31] <Ian_> Laurenceb if the AETH geofence is broken, has anyone advised them of the perceived problem? Not like they have been advised and ignored the advice AFAIK?
[17:37] <stilldavid> ooh, who's payload is that over CO?
[17:37] Action: stilldavid looks up
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[17:38] <stilldavid> er, "was"
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[17:39] <lz1dev> !ping kp5pgw-9
[17:39] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: No contact from 03kp5pgw-9
[17:39] <lz1dev> !ping kf5pgw-9
[17:39] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03KF5PGW-9 was 0314 hours ago
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[17:41] <lz1dev> !aprs info kf5pgw-9
[17:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03KF5PGW-9 is near 03El Paso County, CO, USA 10(39.11916,-104.91984) at 032218 meters - 12http://aprs.fi/info/KF5PGW-9
[17:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Path: 03KF5PGW-9>CQ via 03KG5EO-3,WB0JRG-7,WIDE2*,qAR,K0JSC-1
[17:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Symbol: 03O/ Speed: 030kmph Course: 030°
[17:41] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Comment: 03,+249,7838,98,07,0,8
[17:42] <stilldavid> 2200m, anyone know if it was recovered?
[17:42] <lz1dev> kf5pgw9 ?
[17:43] <lz1dev> looks like they kept it on while brining it home
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[17:44] <stilldavid> ah, that explains the strange track.
[17:44] <stilldavid> sorry, no coffee this morning :(
[17:45] <edmoore> one does not simply skip coffee
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[17:46] <lz1dev> .jpg pls
[17:47] <edmoore> can't be bothered
[17:47] <edmoore> not enough coffee
[17:47] <SpeedEvil> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/28/288af2a6e85fb90ab94f241925ab068e224e7acda9a37a54fe943d3946e1ddb4.jpg
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[17:48] <SpeedEvil> http://cdn.lotoflaughters.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2703.jpg - heh
[17:49] <lz1dev> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=one+does+simply+skip+coffee&tbm=isch
[17:51] <SpeedEvil> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jolla-tablet-world-s-first-crowdsourced-tablet - if anyones interested. 'normal' linux on a tablet - with the ability to run android apps.
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[18:10] <arko> stilldavid: why are all my friends moving to your state?
[18:10] <arko> send them back plz
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[18:12] <stilldavid> arko: because it's awesome here?
[18:12] <stilldavid> I apologize for nothing.
[18:12] Nick change: superkuh_ -> superkuh
[18:13] <arko> haha
[18:13] <arko> good answer
[18:17] <stilldavid> because my sunday was: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stilldavid/15784243028/
[18:18] <arko> brb packing bags
[18:19] <arko> my other friend who moved there last year said he thought he was an atheltic person until he moved to CO. when he got there he told his coworkers how he ski's and bikes
[18:19] <arko> they responded with "that's it?"
[18:20] <stilldavid> haha, the eternal struggle here.
[18:20] <arko> i'd be happy with one activity that requires me to be outside
[18:20] <qyx_> hab chasing
[18:20] <stilldavid> "I'm a pretty alright ______er"
[18:20] <arko> oh good one
[18:21] <stilldavid> "the guy down the street is the best in the world at it"
[18:21] <arko> extreme ironing
[18:21] <arko> hahaha
[18:21] <stilldavid> ___ is any of hiking, running, climbing, biking, swimming, extreme anything (including ironing)
[18:21] <arko> that's still my favorite sport
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[18:22] <qyx_> hm, hiking.. i have been nowhere for the past 2 yeras
[18:23] <arko> ah crap i almost forgot coffee
[18:23] <arko> brb
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[18:23] <stilldavid> after all that?!
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[18:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SP5NVX - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=SP5NVX
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[19:20] <Lunar_Lander> evening
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[19:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_SKY_PLUS after 03a day silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PI_SKY_PLUS
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[20:31] <mclane_> spacenear.us has finally been replaced by the mobile tracker?
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[20:32] Nick change: Upu- -> Upu
[20:35] <Upu> yes mclane_
[20:35] <Upu> it was time
[20:35] <mclane_> in contrast to the old site, it does not load into the Qt embedded browser QWebView
[20:35] <mclane_> which is probably a problem of Qt
[20:35] <Upu> never heard of it
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[20:41] <edmoore> Qt?
[20:41] <edmoore> it's big
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[20:43] <mfa298> mclane_: issue tracker is at https://github.com/rossengeorgiev/habitat-mobile-tracker/issues
[20:44] <mclane_> ok, I am still experimenting
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[20:46] <mclane_> I have build a Qt application which extracts & decodes my compressed error-corrected telemetry frames from dl-fldigi
[20:47] <mclane_> since the tracking pc is operated by "non-nerds" in my chase car I have included an embedded browser in that application
[20:48] <mclane_> "non-nerds" = my wife / daughter ;-)
[20:48] <fsphil> nerds in training
[20:48] <lz1dev> Nerd training progress [===-------------------------]
[20:49] <mclane_> more lke [=------------------------------------------------------]
[20:49] <lz1dev> there are multiple levels
[20:49] <lz1dev> you should know that
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[20:51] <lz1dev> http://i.imgur.com/DQmze2a.png
[20:51] <lz1dev> netscape yabrowser ircon ?
[20:51] <lz1dev> what are these things and why do they exist
[20:52] <fsphil> wot, no amibrowse?
[20:52] <fsphil> ibrowse even
[20:53] <lz1dev> http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
[20:53] <mfa298> no lynx :(
[20:53] <lz1dev> any browser that can't run javascript
[20:53] <lz1dev> wont appear
[20:54] <lz1dev> since it can't run the google analytics code :D
[20:55] <lz1dev> iron sounds like a fork of chrome
[20:57] Action: mfa298 must pay more attention to cooking than IRC - I realised the veg cooks better when it's in the water
[21:01] <Upu> haha
[21:01] <Upu> that netscape was me lz1dev
[21:02] <lz1dev> does it work? :D
[21:02] <Upu> does it hell :)
[21:02] <Upu> it installed AOL Chat on my PC too :/
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[21:02] <lz1dev> how was it in 1994 ?
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[21:03] <Upu> I prefer 20 years of progress
[21:03] <Upu> nice I like the path thing
[21:03] <Upu> oh we have DNS loading bar :)
[21:03] <Upu> DNA
[21:04] <lz1dev> http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/img/hab-spinner.gif
[21:04] <Upu> the new 1 day feature is great I forget to delete anything
[21:05] <lz1dev> wanted to put this http://i.imgur.com/Z7iHZFq.gif
[21:05] <Upu> haha
[21:06] <edmoore> a tutorial is mixing whilst people wait
[21:08] <edmoore> on mixing*
[21:10] <arko> or anti-aliasing!
[21:12] <lz1dev> looks like firefox has the higher bounce rate out of all browsers
[21:12] <lz1dev> well the popular ones at least
[21:17] <arko> is that in js?
[21:18] <lz1dev> used python to generate it
[21:18] <arko> ohhh
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[21:18] <lz1dev> the frames to be exact, then imagemagik to make the gif and do optimizations
[21:20] <lz1dev> there have been 9 impression from devices with 4bit colors
[21:20] <lz1dev> thats like 16 colors
[21:20] <mclane_> ok finally I got it working
[21:23] <lz1dev> apperantly Samsung GT-E1282T
[21:23] <lz1dev> http://irecommend.ru.q5.r-99.com/sites/default/files/product-images/180986/784646.jpg
[21:23] <lz1dev> prety sure mt doesnt work on that
[21:25] <mclane_> http://i.imgur.com/A7vUoI1.png
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[21:26] <lz1dev> looks good
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[21:27] <lz1dev> qt should be using webkit as an engine for that
[21:28] <mclane_> yes it does
[21:28] <lz1dev> full blown browser, with the chrome bits
[21:28] <mclane_> I had to enable local storage since the javascript stuff is large
[21:29] <lz1dev> it uses localstorage for settings and what not
[21:29] <lz1dev> technically it should also be storing hte last position of all balloons, if you've enabled the setting
[21:29] <lz1dev> so if you reload and you are offline you still have the position
[21:30] <lz1dev> not sure how well that works in practice
[21:33] <lz1dev> seems to work on my phone
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[21:57] <amell> !ping b-64
[21:57] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: Last contact with 03B-64 was 0316 days ago
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[22:06] <daveake> James May "At The Edge Of Space" on BBC4 at the mo
[22:07] <daveake> 70,000 feet meh :)
[22:07] <theRealSIbot> In real units: 70,000 ft = 21 km
[22:07] <fsphil> still wouldn't say no to it :)
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[22:07] <daveake> nor me :)
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[22:20] <Lunar_Lander> is that a new flight he made?
[22:21] <SpeedEvil> http://arxiv.org/abs/1412.0460
[22:21] <SpeedEvil> Here we found that sulfur hydride transforms at P~90 GPa to metal and superconductor with Tc increasing with pressure to 150 K at ~200 GPa. This is in general agreement with recent calculations of Tc~80 K for H2S. Moreover we found superconductivity with Tc~190 K in a H2S sample pressurized to P>150 GPa at T>220 K.
[22:21] <SpeedEvil> If only it wasn't 2000000PSI
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> But it's a new class of compounds to try - which hasn't been inestigated before.
[22:22] <Lunar_Lander> -83°C?
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> And doping may reduce that
[22:22] <SpeedEvil> yes
[22:22] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
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