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[00:16] <DL7AD> good night
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[03:33] <zzqa> kf7fer: have you checked out the xmega line as a possible "need more uarts" option?
[03:35] <qyx_> i would go for arm -> cheaper, more standard, many manufacturers and options
[03:35] <qyx_> and more portable code
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[03:38] <zzqa> for a ten-off board, paying 10x as much per chip is usually more attractive to me than rewriting all of my code for a new platform
[03:39] <zzqa> but I'll not speak for kf7fer
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[04:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RA4NHY after 038 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=RA4NHY
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[05:43] <DL7AD> morning
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[05:50] <x-f> morning
[05:51] <x-f> good luck with the launch!
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[07:30] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03_AETH28-3 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=_AETH28-3
[07:33] <DJ3AK> $$D-6,8,19:29:29,52.17987,10.56436,132,7966F
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[07:36] <x-f> it is missing * before the checksum!
[07:37] <x-f> "Exception in UKHAS main parse: ValueError: No checksum found but config specifies one"
[07:38] <x-f> i checked the CRC, it should be $$D-6,8,19:29:29,52.17987,10.56436,132,7*966F
[07:40] <DJ3AK> x-f morning. tnx for checking. waiting for green decode here, D-6 not yet launched and abt 30km away from me
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[07:41] <x-f> wow, you received it on the ground at 30 km distance?
[07:41] <jededu> Wow EDUPIC is still going
[07:41] <DG0MG> DJ3AK in which direction friom your place?
[07:42] <DJ3AK> the launch location is on a small hill as 132m reported. area between us is abt 70m asl on average I guess
[07:44] <DJ3AK> launch near Wolfenbüttel, f = 434.150 300Bd 850 Hz 8N2
[07:45] <x-f> i hope it's sunny and calm there this morning
[07:45] <Upu> thats a great filght jededu
[07:46] <DG0MG> DJ3AK: tnx
[07:46] <jededu> Thx upu it should last the day :)
[07:47] <x-f> EDUPIC should be in my range in 5-6 hours
[07:48] <jededu> Where are you x-f
[07:48] <x-f> in Latvia
[07:49] <jededu> UR3PAS ?
[07:50] <x-f> no, that's somebody else, i'm a bit east from him, but not on the map currently
[07:50] <jededu> Are you the HAB Telemetry dreator?
[07:51] <jededu> Creator
[07:51] <x-f> i'm just displaying it, you're the telemetry creator :)
[07:52] <DG0MG> :D
[07:52] <DG0MG> DJ3AK: looks like a flight to Leipzig, do you know would D-6 be a floater or up and down?
[07:52] <jededu> Thats what I meant its excellent anyway
[07:52] <x-f> thanks
[07:53] <DJ3AK> it will be solaire.
[07:56] <DG0MG> solaire? Huh?
[07:58] <x-f> solar balloon, hot air balloon - heated by the sunlight
[07:59] <x-f> i hope they'll be able to launch it this time
[07:59] <DG0MG> ah, ok
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[08:05] <DL1SGP> good morning folks!
[08:05] <DL1SGP> DJ3AK: wie sieht es bei dir mit dem wetter aus?
[08:06] <DJ3AK> dl1sgp Guten Morgen. Die Sonne lacht!
[08:06] <DL1SGP> das ist gut, so weit von wolfenbuettel bist du ja nicht weg
[08:09] <DL1SGP> schauen wir mal was passiert :)
[08:10] <jededu> !hysplit EDUPICM8
[08:10] <SpacenearUS> 03jededu: HYSPLIT for 03EDUPICM8 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141122-04_135888_EDUPICM8.gif
[08:10] <DL1SGP> DJ3AK: sie sind am startplatz, wind ist recht stark, ballon kaputt gegangen
[08:10] <DL1SGP> ist noch nicht sicher ob sie mit klebeband fixen oder der start abgebrochen wird
[08:11] <DJ3AK> dl1sgp danke für die Info. dann klappt es sicher beim nächsten mal
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[08:11] <DL1SGP> kann sein das mit klebeband oder so repariert wird
[08:11] <DL1SGP> Sven ich hab dir hier mal die Paula gemacht @ DL7AD
[08:12] <DJ3AK> DL7AD Hi Sven
[08:12] <DL7AD> morning
[08:12] <DL7AD> the balloon got a huge leak
[08:13] <DG0MG> gm Sven
[08:13] <DL7AD> and the ukhas tracker which worked yesterday and today doesnt work anymore
[08:13] <x-f> :/
[08:13] <DL7AD> so we switched over to aprs
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[08:17] <DL1SGP> :(
[08:18] <DL7AD> they are currently fixing it
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[08:20] <DL1SGP> woot
[08:20] <DL7AD> caceled
[08:20] <DL1SGP> ok
[08:20] <DL7AD> we are not going to fix it here
[08:21] <DL7AD> its too difficult on gras
[08:22] <DL1SGP> if WX permits you might give it another go later on, depending on how long it takes to relocate to the structure you were in earlier, that might also give you the ability of recharging your notebook for a bit and fix the ukhas tracker. I will stay on stand-by for a bit in case of situation changing. you can just text me if anything happens that requires my attention if you wish
[08:23] <DL7AD> no we are not going to fix it today
[08:23] <DL1SGP> ok...end of standby
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[08:29] <DL1SGP> sighs
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[08:30] <jcoxon> :-(
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[08:33] <DL1SGP> hi jcoxon :-) the good thing about a launch being canceled is that the thrill of getting setup in time and being ready to listen to it will return another day :)
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[08:34] <Upu> lol
[08:34] <jcoxon> DL1SGP, yes! excellent attitude
[08:35] <jcoxon> patience is number 1 quality in a 'habbist'
[08:35] <lz1dev> !whereis dl1sgp
[08:35] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: I haven't got a clue
[08:35] <lz1dev> :(
[08:35] <DL1SGP> patience, the habbits' habit
[08:36] <DL1SGP> lz1dev: JO52co
[08:36] <lz1dev> meanwhiel in aprs land
[08:36] <lz1dev> VK6SKY-4>APRS,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,VK6LD-5:!3160.30S/11549.00EE270
[08:36] <lz1dev> 31 degrees 60.30 mins
[08:36] <lz1dev> is valid
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[08:50] <lz1dev> LeoBodnar: ping
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[09:05] <Rebounde1> morrn
[09:08] Action: G8TMV wonders if the MM2 crew are here
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[09:13] <DL1SGP> morning Rebounde1
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[09:26] <M6XIMan> Morning all
[09:26] Nick change: Rebounde1 -> Reb-SM3ULC
[09:27] <M6XIMan> Oh yay, my evil QRM has disappeared!
[09:27] <M6XIMan> I guess the aliens got what they wanted and left
[09:27] <G8TMV> they took your neighbours plasma tv?
[09:28] <M6XIMan> After much probing, yes
[09:28] <DL1SGP> haha G8TMV
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[09:28] <M6XIMan> Not from a plasma TV, though: http://imgur.com/yzpIcft
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[09:47] <jededu> x-f does it look like EDUPIC will be in range
[09:48] <G8TMV> !dial EDUPICM8
[09:48] <SpacenearUS> 03G8TMV: Latest dials for 03EDUPIC8 10(29b3): 030.031 MHz
[09:50] <jededu> mmm
[09:52] <jededu> !payload EDUPICM8
[09:52] <SpacenearUS> 03jededu: Payload 03EDUPIC8 10(29b3) 03$$EDUPICM8 - 03RTTY Only - 03434.65 MHz USB 03RTTY 100/400Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[09:52] <jededu> Its actually 434.225
[09:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03MM2 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=MM2
[09:57] <G8TMV> !dial MM2
[09:57] <SpacenearUS> 03G8TMV: Latest dials for 03MM2 10(8a63): none
[10:00] <x-f> jededu, likely 1-1.5deg above my horizon
[10:01] <x-f> i'll alert other potential trackers that will be closer to it
[10:02] <jededu> Ok X-F thx
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[10:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03__AETH28-3 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=__AETH28-3
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[10:12] <fsphil> jededu: congrats :)
[10:12] <jededu> Thx fsphil
[10:18] <M6XIMan> edupic8 is still flying? awesome!
[10:18] <LeoBodnar> is it the fourth day jededu ?well done!
[10:18] <M6XIMan> Great job dude
[10:19] <M6XIMan> I'd love it if habitat displayed total flight time
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[10:19] <LeoBodnar> mt does
[10:19] <jededu> Just 73 hours :)
[10:20] <M6XIMan> Leo: I meant on the panels on the left
[10:20] <jededu> Distance would be good
[10:20] <LeoBodnar> ah
[10:20] <M6XIMan> That would be nice too
[10:21] <lz1dev> just click on the balloon's path
[10:21] <LeoBodnar> http://habitat.habhub.org/mobile-tracker/?filter=EDUPICM8
[10:21] <LeoBodnar> Length: 2943.02 km Duration: 3d 1h
[10:22] <M6XIMan> lz1dev: Sure - I meant without having to click on the path :)
[10:22] <jcoxon> nah it gets too crowded otherwise
[10:25] <M6XIMan> I see MM2 on the map - I guess their notam came though then
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[10:25] <G8TMV> Doesn't Elseworth have a permanant one?
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[10:29] <jededu> Ahh thats how you get the distance
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[10:34] <G8TMV> MM2 is up
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[10:41] <Herman-PB0AHX> !flights
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[10:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Current flights: 03D-6 10(b578), 03MM2 10(8a63), 03EDUPICM8 duration test 10(29b3), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe)
[10:41] <Herman-PB0AHX> !dial MM2
[10:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Latest dials for 03MM2 10(8a63): 03434.65184 MHz, 434.652 MHz, 434.66 MHz, 434.65188 MHz, 434.65282 MHz, 1.101 MHz
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[10:46] <Maxell> !payload MM2
[10:46] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Payload 03MM2 10(8a63) 03$$MM2 - 03Primary - 03434.651 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/425Hz ASCII-7 none 2
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[10:54] <Martin_G4FUI> MM2 visible in my waterfall now, coming up nicely - decodes soon . . .
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[10:55] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Its drifting a lot
[10:55] <Martin_G4FUI> NTX2?
[10:56] <Herman-PB0AHX> good morning all
[10:56] <Martin_G4FUI> Yay green!
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03__AETH28-3 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=__AETH28-3
[10:56] <G8TMV> Geoff-G8DHE_: it's not really drifting - more wobbling
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[11:01] <Maxell> Strong payload...
[11:01] <Maxell> Vacuuming and connecting up the rig was suffcient for greens $$MM2,485,11:01:17,52.481918,00.215514,10048.4*D2A4
[11:02] <Martin_G4FUI> Maxell, lol !
[11:03] <Maxell> Might have got some decodes earlier if I connected up the rig first :)
[11:03] <Martin_G4FUI> Been there, done that . . . :/
[11:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03__AETH28-3 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=__AETH28-3
[11:04] Action: G8TMV did that at EFICamp - had the wrong Ant selected on the 817 - it's wonderful how well an unconnected BNC socket Rx's when it's pointing at the payload 50 yards away
[11:05] <Maxell> haha
[11:06] <Martin_G4FUI> My motto at work (I'm a test engineer) is "When unexpected results are present, suspect Finger Trouble First"!
[11:06] <edmoore> I'm a test engineer too much of the time
[11:06] <edmoore> our motto is (this isn't a joke either) 'assume it will detonate, that way you'll be fine'
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[11:07] <Martin_G4FUI> That's Rocket Science for you . . .
[11:07] <Maxell> Well here it was more like, "I don't hear anything yet, lets do some chores first." "Hmm, well into blue circle what is going on?" "Damnit forgot the antenna" :P
[11:08] <Martin_G4FUI> That's the Finger Trouble component ...
[11:08] <M6XIMan> Okay, that's quite some drift there
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[11:12] <Maxell> M6XIMan: yeah, but not so bad dl-fldigi has to control the Yaesu.
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[11:13] <Maxell> jarod: knock knock
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[11:13] <Martin_G4FUI> I would say it sounds like a pretty decent signal here in Penrith (MM2)
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[11:15] <G8TMV> I'm finding slightly more reliable decodes on MM" with a 420 split instead of 425
[11:15] <Martin_G4FUI> ... where the sun is now out - blimey!
[11:15] <Maxell> G8TMV: shift is 400 here
[11:15] <Maxell> And might even be less...
[11:16] <Martin_G4FUI> 400 here
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[11:16] <mikestir> i concur
[11:16] <G8TMV> was nominally supposed to be 425
[11:17] <jededu> I thinc EDUPICM8 has lost its last tracker
[11:17] <Martin_G4FUI> close to 30dB snr here, nice sig
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[11:18] <Maxell> G8TMV: the shift setting is something that can change during the flight. Changes in temprature reflect on the amount of shift.
[11:18] Action: G8TMV nods
[11:18] <Maxell> Martin_G4FUI: yep danceing betreen 29 and 30 dB s/n
[11:18] <Maxell> Oh, even saw 31 dB
[11:18] <Maxell> Wow, up to 35 dB!
[11:19] <mikestir> yeah big signal. S5 on the rig
[11:19] <Maxell> S0 to S1
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[11:19] <jededu> Maybe not :)
[11:19] <Maxell> But the S meter does not like these narrow band signals
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[11:20] <Martin_G4FUI> I presume you regard EDUPICM8 as a success, jededu ...
[11:21] <M6XIMan> You spelt "triumph" wrong.
[11:22] <Martin_G4FUI> :) (I was never into motorbikes!)
[11:22] <M6XIMan> Heh
[11:22] <Maxell> Lol, EDUPIC8 could not have chosen a better place to cross Poland! Right trough the beehive-tracker swarm
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[11:22] <Martin_G4FUI> (what I should say I was never allowed to be into motorbikes!)
[11:22] <Maxell> Stunning amount of trackers!
[11:23] <x-f> i see EDUPICM8 on the waterfall, not decoding yet
[11:24] <jededu> Yes Martin_G4FUI its about what I expected but it did rely on all those trackers and an almost perfect flight path
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[11:26] <Maxell> Expected burst altitude for MM@?
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[11:26] <Martin_G4FUI> jededu, it was interesting to me, as when it was almost "becalmed" over the Firth of Tay, though I was well inside the blue circle it was obscured by a local feature (Penrith Beacon) and althoug I could hear it, it was too weak to decode ...
[11:26] <Maxell> MM2
[11:26] <jededu> Nearly lost it last night V went down to 0.88
[11:27] <Martin_G4FUI> Was that a temperature issue?
[11:27] <jededu> Yes that was at -39
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[11:28] <jededu> http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/EDUPICM8#g/battery,temperature
[11:29] <jededu> The reg is good down to 0.8v
[11:30] <Martin_G4FUI> That's a very deep null - would it self recover if it fell below a certain threshold and then warmed up again?
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[11:31] <Martin_G4FUI> Probably quite hard to test/predict ...
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[11:33] <jededu> Possibly it can autostart, the reg only requires 0.85v to restart
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[11:37] <Maxell> MM2 drifting again
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[11:41] <Maxell> lol,
[11:41] <Maxell> Target alt >100k feet AMSL
[11:42] <Maxell> Not planning on recovery eh
[11:42] <G8TMV> yes, Mark wants it back because it has a data recorder on board
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[11:45] <Maxell> ah
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[11:47] <M6XIMan> jededu: What's the payload weight of edupicm8?
[11:49] <jededu> M6XIMan with batt 16g
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[11:50] <M6XIMan> energizer lithium?
[11:51] <jededu> Yes
[11:52] <M6XIMan> That's nice power management to run this long :)
[11:53] <Martin_G4FUI> EPICPICM8 :)
[11:53] <M6XIMan> 74 hours and 1.26V
[11:53] <jededu> Lol
[11:54] <daveake> Is this the longest running BASIC program ever?
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[11:54] <M6XIMan> lol
[11:54] <jededu> lol
[11:54] <M6XIMan> To be this successful the code must run to thousands of klocs
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[11:56] <jededu> M6XIMan http://imgur.com/GintOnU
[11:56] <M6XIMan> jededu: Nice. What is the TX?
[11:57] <jededu> MTX2 on the back
[11:57] <M6XIMan> No ernie ball special gps antenna? ;)
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[11:57] <jededu> On this one yes
[11:57] <SpeedEvil> https://plus.google.com/+ProjectLoon/posts/dqHoYWHjHxy
[11:57] <SpeedEvil> 'that our balloons now last 10 times longer in the stratosphere than they did in 2013, with many lasting 100 days or more (our current record is 130 days!).
[11:58] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb:
[11:59] <M6XIMan> jededu: Removing all those PRINT "JEDEDU ROCKS!" lines must have helped the power management somewhat
[11:59] <jededu> Lol it did
[11:59] <G8TMV> *POP* on MM2
[11:59] <bbb_> Nice landing ;)
[11:59] <G8TMV> I think the predictor is suffering an overflow
[12:00] <G8TMV> Ah, thats better
[12:00] <bbb_> ;)
[12:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03__AETH28-3 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=__AETH28-3
[12:00] <DL1SGP> k. nevermind MM2 enjoy going down
[12:00] <DL1SGP> :D
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[12:02] <jededu> x-f :)
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[12:03] <x-f> first one :)
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[12:09] <jededu> !hysplit EDUPICM8
[12:09] <SpacenearUS> 03jededu: HYSPLIT for 03EDUPICM8 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141122-10_138443_EDUPICM8.gif
[12:09] <M6XIMan> Bah
[12:09] <M6XIMan> The QRM on .225 is back
[12:10] <x-f> it is 0.3 degrees above horizon and won't get much higher for me, though
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[12:10] <LeoBodnar> Aethers invaded Europe http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FAETH28-1%2Ca%2FAETH28-3&timerange=604800&tail=604800
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[12:11] <pc1pcl> :) finishe dmessing with antenna setup just in time to try out listening with 70cm yagi.
[12:13] <LeoBodnar> http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=7&ts=1415621539&te=1416658339&call=a%2FAETH28-1%2Ca%2FAETH28-3
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[12:15] <jededu> x-f according to the hysplit it turns
[12:15] <jededu> But maybe too late
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[12:18] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[12:18] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
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[12:20] Action: DL1SGP hopes that the ultra short powernap was fine for SpacenearUS
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[12:21] <DL1SGP> Good Day Leo :)
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[12:23] <SpacenearUS> DL1SGP: yes, I feel refreshed
[12:23] <DL1SGP> :)
[12:25] <Maxell> pc1pcl: missed the going up part
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[12:26] <pc1pcl> Maxell: yup, too busy with too many projects :)
[12:26] <Maxell> LeoBodnar: what are these AETH28?
[12:27] <Maxell> 0.5 horizon still decoding
[12:27] <Maxell> 0.4 greens
[12:27] <Maxell> two reds :(
[12:28] <Maxell> pc1pcl: how are you holding up there?
[12:28] <Maxell> 0.3 green
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[12:29] <Maxell> 0.2 green!
[12:30] <pc1pcl> difference between directional and omni is at least clear.
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[12:32] <Maxell> I now have a lot of lines that do not start with two $$
[12:32] <Maxell> like, "A$MM2,979"
[12:32] <Maxell> and it does not try to checksum them
[12:32] <pc1pcl> no rotors, just pointed roughly towards the sea.. the $$MM2 are still ok but always some minor errors..
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[12:33] <Maxell> -0.1 degree green
[12:33] <Maxell> another one
[12:33] <pc1pcl> hmm green at -0.1 but on the omni, suprisingly..
[12:34] <Maxell> tropo :)
[12:34] <Maxell> I can still hear it!
[12:34] <pc1pcl> -0.2 green bleh one fldigi crashed due to pcut and paste sensitivity..
[12:35] <Maxell> noes
[12:35] <Maxell> too weak here
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[12:35] <Maxell> $$MIstell 998,12:5:"0,mstell .716160, 0.98@&54,192.0*B08F
[12:37] <Maxell> funkeh
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[12:38] <M6XIMan> M$$MM6-1408,12>3[1X~5yn?vx0.997x6[675Wp_<3\;y$%}
[12:38] <M6XIMan> Slightly less successful
[12:38] <pc1pcl> Well, back to routing coax cable so door of garage can actually close again..
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[12:40] Action: G8TMV is losing the signal now
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[12:42] <jededu> x-f what time is sunset where you are
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[12:42] <x-f> jededu, 14 UTC
[12:44] <jededu> wow thats early, It wont make it through another cold spell, se how far it gets
[12:46] <M6XIMan> MM2 on the ground
[12:46] <G8TMV> yeah, I guess so
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[12:47] <M6XIMan> 372m is a bit high to get a good fix on landing
[12:47] <M6XIMan> I wonder if anyone received any partials
[12:48] <G8TMV> maybe, But Mark has telemetry reception in the chase car
[12:48] <G8TMV> and it's nice and flat around there so should be easy to get a signal
[12:49] <M6XIMan> Yeah, not a bad place to land at all
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[12:49] <G8TMV> Hmm... quite a few trees though
[12:50] <M6XIMan> Heh, Kerdiston Road is not exactly... a road
[12:52] <G8TMV> I noticed that
[12:52] <M6XIMan> "kurdistan road"
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[12:52] <db_g6gzh> last I got with anything meaningful was only the next one $$MM2,1049,12:44:41,52.771698,01.060799,317.4*B3!A
[12:52] <navrac_2E0VKK> my last reading was 52.771698,01.060799 at 317.4
[12:54] <x-f> es5nhc, might be worth keeping an eye on EDUPICM8 if it survives long enough
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[12:56] <x-f> it has got up to 0.9 deg, i was too pesimistic
[12:57] <jededu> :) you could be tha last one
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[13:49] <Laurenceb_> nice
[13:50] <Laurenceb_> EDUPICM8 beat B-6 duration
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[13:50] <Laurenceb_> very good for battery power
[13:50] <jededu> :) thx
[13:51] <jededu> Was B6 battery
[13:51] <DL7AD> !hysplit EDUPIC8
[13:51] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
[13:51] <DL7AD> !hysplit EDUPICM8
[13:51] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03EDUPICM8 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141122-10_138443_EDUPICM8.gif
[13:51] <thasti> DL7AD: did you launch today?
[13:51] <Laurenceb_> jededu: yes
[13:52] <jededu> Ahh i see
[13:52] <DL7AD> thasti: no .( there was sun but too much wind. that much wind that our balloon was split
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[13:52] <thasti> sad to hear
[13:52] <DL7AD> yeah
[13:52] <thasti> better luck next time!
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[13:53] <jededu> Im suprised its holding 1.08v
[13:54] <Laurenceb_> itll probably die soon
[13:54] <Laurenceb_> dunno if its a battery record or not?
[13:54] <Laurenceb_> got to be close
[13:55] <jededu> It will at 0.8v
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[13:55] <DL7AD> jededu: so probably in the evening
[13:56] <DL7AD> in one hour
[13:56] <jededu> That sounds about right DL7AD
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[14:02] <mikestir> jededu: was that a single AAA?
[14:03] <jededu> No AA, its not that efficient :) yet
[14:03] <mikestir> still pretty good though
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[14:04] <mikestir> we never got to see how long my aaa one lasted because it went out of range too quickly
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[14:05] <mikestir> so you mentioned aprs. Have you already got your ham licence or is that the next job?
[14:05] <jededu> I could get the same endurance form an AA if i reduced the transmitted data and extended the sleep time ot night in tests it was almost the same
[14:05] <jededu> from an AAA
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[14:06] <jededu> Thats the next job I have contacted the local club
[14:07] <mikestir> yeah it's all very linear - just a case of trading functionality for current consumption and dividing the battery capacity by the answer
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[14:13] <Laurenceb_> someone should try sirf IV
[14:14] <Laurenceb_> it supposedly has a 500µA mode
[14:14] <Laurenceb_> at 1.7v
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[14:16] <jededu> Thats interesting mmm
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[14:17] <Ian_> What's the ceiling of the Sirf IV in flight mode (it does have one?)
[14:18] <Laurenceb_> 18.8km
[14:18] <craag> Ed's pushed it a couple of times
[14:18] <Laurenceb_> 500µA mode only guarentees a fix every 10 minutes, but thats good enough for a floater
[14:19] <prog> hello
[14:19] <craag> Looks great for picos and might even have a bit of weight advantage over the ublox modules
[14:19] <prog> someone else received his airspy?
[14:19] <Laurenceb_> aiui you can "enforce" a mean power budget
[14:19] <Laurenceb_> so it will try to do the best it can whilst keeping below it
[14:20] <Laurenceb_> lowest setting is 500µA
[14:24] <jededu> $49.95 not cheap
[14:24] <x-f> looks like that's enough tracking for me, i'm off, great flight, jededu
[14:24] <jededu> Thx x-f :)
[14:25] <craag> jededu: ?
[14:25] <jededu> Thats me
[14:25] <craag> what was the $49?
[14:26] <jededu> Sirf IV
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[14:26] <craag> http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/SE880GPSR22R001/943-1019-1-ND/3991550
[14:26] <jededu> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10890
[14:27] <craag> se880 info: http://www.telit.com/products/product-service-selector/product-service-selector/show/product/jupiter-se880/
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[14:27] <jededu> Ahh thats better
[14:27] <Laurenceb_> theres is a very cheap one on digikey
[14:28] <Laurenceb_> http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/M10478-A1/627-1052-2-ND/4486210
[14:28] <Laurenceb_> erm
[14:29] <Laurenceb_> http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/M10478-A1/627-1052-1-ND/3993158
[14:29] <nats`> NDA request everywhere :\
[14:29] <jededu> Now I need a reflow :/
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[14:30] <jededu> is princ_fm on here
[14:31] <jededu> or YL3GV
[14:37] <Laurenceb_> into Russia
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[14:38] <jededu> Yay Russia
[14:38] <jededu> lol
[14:38] <Laurenceb_> up oh its descending
[14:38] <Laurenceb_> temperature has risen a lot, i bet its in cloud
[14:39] <jededu> the batt will die first :)
[14:40] <jededu> Laurenceb_ well spotted didnt notice that
[14:46] <DG0MG> jededu: have you count the number of countrys yet?
[14:46] <jededu> No I should do that :)
[14:46] <DG0MG> of course
[14:47] <DG0MG> 8?
[14:49] <jededu> Yes thats what I make it
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[14:49] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Object Movie for MM2 flight http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/MM2_20141122/index.php?ind=1
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[15:00] <LeoBodnar> what's that other balloon on the horizon? http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/MM2_20141122/MM2_201411221231.jpg
[15:01] <Laurenceb_> aliens
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[15:08] <jededu> LeoBodnar: diddnt notice that :)
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[15:19] <G8TMV> Any news on recovery of MM2?
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[15:23] <bbb_> Literally just got it.
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[15:25] <G8TMV> bbb_: ?? MM2?
[15:25] <bbb_> Yep
[15:25] <bbb_> the landing coordinate were here
[15:26] <bbb_> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/52%C2%B046'33.2%22N+1%C2%B003'48.7%22E/@52.7757396,1.0661931,714m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=en
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[15:33] <G8TMV> bbb_: so it hasn't made a run for the nearest pub this time
[15:35] <bbb_> Hard to tell. Have to wait until a station can pick it up again. :D
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[15:54] <jededu> EDUPICM8 done i think :)
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[15:56] <jededu> Thanks to all who tracked it
[15:56] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Nice flight!
[15:56] <Upu> great flight
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[15:57] <jededu> Next :)
[15:57] <Upu> beat pava :)
[15:57] <jededu> Did I :)
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[16:02] <jcoxon> haha google loon's record is 130 days
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[16:02] <jcoxon> https://plus.google.com/+ProjectLoon/posts/dqHoYWHjHxy
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[16:16] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Do we have any info on these AETH?? baslloons appearing from APRS ?
[16:17] <lz1dev> !aprs
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[16:17] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Tracking via APRS: 03AETH28-3 10(_AETH28-3), 03M0UPU-9 10(M0UPU-Chase), 03M0XER-4 10(_M0XER-4)
[16:18] <lz1dev> !aprs remove m0xer-4
[16:18] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Removed 03M0XER-4 from APRS Importer
[16:19] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> If you search on APRS there is a whole series of them over the last few hundred days ?
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[16:19] <lz1dev> what?
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[16:21] <Maxell> The*
[16:21] <Maxell> AETH28*
[16:21] <Maxell> http://aprs.fi/info/?call=AETH28* ?
[16:21] <G8TMV> !aprs
[16:21] <SpacenearUS> 03G8TMV: Tracking via APRS: 03AETH28-3 10(_AETH28-3), 03M0UPU-9 10(M0UPU-Chase)
[16:22] <Maxell> M0UPU-9 chase :P
[16:22] <G8TMV> Ah, the !aprs command isn't on the irc-bot wiki page
[16:22] <lz1dev> :D
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[16:23] <Maxell> Or going to the grocery store
[16:23] <Maxell> Chasing the latest sales
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[16:29] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PAYLOAD - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PAYLOAD
[16:30] <lz1dev> creative
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[16:32] <DG0MG> Geoff-G8DHE-Lap: http://amsat-uk.org/2014/09/30/help-needed-to-track-144-390-mhz-aprs-balloons/
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[16:50] <jededu> Has anybody ordered from these ? 3 weeks now still nothing and he doesent answer emails
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[16:50] <jededu> http://www.flexsolarcells.co.uk/
[16:51] <jededu> Well i did get one reply
[16:51] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> There are some on EBAY as well
[16:52] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> unencapsulated
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[16:52] <jededu> If only 9 was ready http://predict.habhub.org/#!/uuid=b8650ba7ed6edb2a42ad3223c5781519a75e4c39
[16:53] <jededu> <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> from the same company ?
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[16:53] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Not sure let me look again
[16:57] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Can't see the ones I spotted a while ago but several on there http://tinyurl.com/na645k2
[17:00] <lz1dev> ok stand back and don't try this at home
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH28-4 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-4
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH28-5 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-5
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH28-8 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-8
[17:00] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH28-10 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-10
[17:01] <Maxell> haha
[17:02] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> They actually look more like a commercial setup :/ http://www.projectaether.org/main/about-us.html
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[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH28-9 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-9
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-10 after 038 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-10
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-4 after 038 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-4
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-5 after 038 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-5
[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-8 after 038 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-8
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[17:03] <Maxell> lz1dev: nice
[17:03] <Maxell> all going smooth
[17:03] <Maxell> dat backlog feeding!
[17:04] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-9 after 038 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-9
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-10 after 037 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-10
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-5 after 037 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-5
[17:05] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-8 after 037 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-8
[17:05] <lz1dev> entire fleet of competition for b-64
[17:06] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-9 after 037 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-9
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[17:06] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Well a commercial setup should be able to lets face it :-( Not sure how the american license works but it woukd get short thrift over here!
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-10 after 036 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-10
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03AETH28-1 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-1
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03AETH28-4 after 037 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=AETH28-4
[17:09] <jededu> <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> thanks for the link its powerfilm that sell them on ebay
[17:11] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> the ones I saw previously could be curled into a complete circle with about 4-10cms diameter and only weighed in at a few grams quite impressive
[17:12] <jededu> I have ordered these if they ever arrive http://www.flexsolarcells.co.uk/index_files/OEM_Components/Flex_Cells/pages/00-PowerFilm-Solar-Cell-Module-SP3-12.php
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[17:48] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[17:48] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
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[17:51] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[18:05] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: hey
[18:06] <SpeedEvil> Lunar_Lander:
[18:08] <Lunar_Lander> hi
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[19:27] <PE2BZ> !payload meurs
[19:27] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03PWSwag 10(9777) 03$$MEURS - 03434.1 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/425Hz ASCII-7 none 1
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[19:32] <PE0SAT> !payload AETH28-1
[19:32] <SpacenearUS> 03PE0SAT: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[20:37] Nick change: BitEvil -> SpeedEvil
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[20:41] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS-27 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PS-27
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[20:44] <Laurenceb_> holy AETH
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[20:46] <Laurenceb_> and PS-15 has circumnavigated?
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[20:49] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03MEURS after 03a day silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=MEURS
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[21:02] <SpeedEvil> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/536262624653365248/photo/1
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[21:05] <mikestir> so next vertical landing is going to be a dry one then
[21:06] <jededu> Has the map gone mad ?
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[21:06] <Laurenceb_> wow
[21:06] <Laurenceb_> that guy gets stuff done
[21:08] <LeoBodnar> holy cow Atheres are coming
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> He does.
[21:08] <SpeedEvil> _and_ it can do refuel and reflight allegedly
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[21:15] <LeoBodnar> AETH28-1 was transmitting APRS over France. tsk tsk tsk
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[21:37] <nats`> You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person! I blow my nose at you, so-called Ah-thoor Keeng, you and all your silly English Knights !
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[21:37] <LeoBodnar> lol
[21:38] <LeoBodnar> they are muricans
[21:38] <nats`> ouuuuhhhhh it's amurica !!!
[21:38] <nats`> :D
[21:38] <nats`> anyway the quote is the good one :D
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[21:41] <LeoBodnar> Holy Grail should have featured a balloon made from rags
[21:42] <nats`> :D
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[21:52] <qyx_> wth is on the map
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[21:52] <qyx_> are they invading us
[21:53] <Laurenceb_> they are coming for our oil
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[21:53] <qyx_> we don't have any
[21:54] <nats`> Brace yourself we are poor si we are safe ! :D
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[21:57] <qyx_> hmm, there are weird "skips" on many payloads.. has the earth been turning backwards a bit?
[21:58] <Lunar_Lander> payload trajectory remix
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[21:59] <mattbrejza> i might be responsible for one of those, not putting an if(fixStat == 3) in the code
[22:00] <nats`> mattbrejza where are you froml ?
[22:00] <nats`> from
[22:01] <mattbrejza> uk
[22:02] <nats`> ahh I though your talking about the balloon doing aprs over france :D
[22:03] <mattbrejza> lol no, mine 'visited' russia i think
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[23:52] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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