highaltitude.log.20141115

[00:00] <mikestir> dl-flphilae
[00:00] <Geoff-G8DHE_> that data is there thesis 's or whatever the plural is!
[00:00] <qyx_> i assumed that rosetta buffers the data
[00:00] <qyx_> obviously not
[00:00] <arko> did they attempt to make it jump?
[00:00] <fsphilae> huygens/cassini did that
[00:00] <Geoff-G8DHE_> no just a lift and turn
[00:01] <fsphilae> I wonder if rosetta is decoding and repeating the data though
[00:01] <amell> rosetta has 3GB of memory on board
[00:01] <amell> not bad for 2004
[00:01] <fsphilae> or if it's just repeating the raw signal
[00:02] <Geoff-G8DHE_> ats raw from what I gathered but reframed with much more fec
[00:02] <Babs_> it has to store the data surely
[00:02] <gonzo_> what data rate between lander and orbiter?
[00:02] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03Philae_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=Philae_chase
[00:02] <amell> 16k/sec
[00:02] <fsphilae> hah
[00:02] <amell> kbit
[00:02] Action: fsphilae runs away
[00:02] <fsphilae> sorry
[00:02] <arko> lol
[00:02] Action: fsphilae bounces away
[00:03] <gonzo_> slowly?
[00:03] <daveake> damn forgot the date
[00:03] <arko> safe trip!
[00:03] <amell> fsphilae: heres your manual http://www.spyr.ch/ps/ads/qm/usermanual.html
[00:05] <amell> reading that manual for philae, it must be hard to keep the knowledge fresh over 10 years.
[00:06] <fsphilae> I'm not sure about code I wrote this-morning
[00:06] <amell> i would have trouble understanding any code i wrote in the early 2000s.
[00:07] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/docs/pr395.pdf
[00:07] <mikestir> they did the pcb cad in EAGLE?
[00:07] <mikestir> did they use rfm22s?
[00:09] <fsphilae> looks like this pass will end before the battery
[00:09] <fsphilae> maybe the rotation really did help
[00:09] <amell> is there a graph of solar v?
[00:09] <mikestir> 0.7?
[00:11] <x-f> it will be close to the simulated 60 hours of battery time
[00:11] <amell> did the russians land on phobos?
[00:12] <SpeedEvil> no
[00:12] <fsphilae> nope
[00:12] <SpeedEvil> at least not publically
[00:12] <fsphilae> hah
[00:12] <amell> page 27 of that powerpoint.
[00:12] <amell> i dont remember that
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[00:14] <amell> Ah. mission failed during approach
[00:14] <fsphilae> it may well have landed that, I didn't realise it got that close
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[00:15] <lz1dev> !whereis philae_chase
[00:15] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03Philae_chase was over 03Herefordshire, UK 10(51.95023,-2.54445) at 03500000000 meters about 0315 years ago
[00:15] <amell> !whereis B-64
[00:15] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: 03B-64 was over 03Qubadli, Azerbaijan 10(39.2239,46.6335) at 0312686 meters about 037 hours ago
[00:16] <fsphilae> phobos has probed a tricker target than mars. 100% of missions there have failed
[00:16] <fsphilae> 11.39 m/s escape velocity. much bigger than our comet
[00:17] <amell> looks like they are going to achieve all of their primary mission objectives.
[00:18] <amell> waiting for consert data to finish downlaoding
[00:20] <x-f> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2cQQYnCcAAEDNR.jpg
[00:20] <x-f> including a manual on comets
[00:21] <fsphilae> "Comets, and how to land there"
[00:22] <amell> I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going.
[00:22] <SpeedEvil> amell: wher did you find that?
[00:22] <amell> Speedevil: on the reddit feed.
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[00:22] <SpeedEvil> ah
[00:22] <Geoff-G8DHE_> On the twitter feeds
[00:23] <fsphilae> they got the CONSERT data
[00:23] <fsphilae> should have good information about the innards
[00:23] <amell> so philae has done his job now.
[00:23] Action: amell makes the sign of the cross
[00:24] <x-f> it will hibernate not die :)
[00:24] <SpeedEvil> it sounds like they've got at least some data frommost instruments
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[00:24] <fsphilae> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2cOATpCAAE9jTD.jpg:large
[00:24] <SpeedEvil> so even if it doesn't wake up in several months ...
[00:24] <fsphilae> yea this is still a huge success
[00:24] <amell> Speedevil: they got everything they were expecting for the primary battery lifetime.
[00:24] <fsphilae> running on solar would've been a nice bonus
[00:25] <SpeedEvil> ayeah
[00:26] <amell> fsphilae: where did you read consert data d/l was done?
[00:27] <fsphilae> twitter
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[00:27] <amell> i cant find anything on twitter
[00:27] <fsphilae> looks like this pass is near an end
[00:28] <Geoff-G8DHE_> there is a twitter feed from each team plus Rosetta and Philea
[00:28] <SpeedEvil> amell: https://twitter.com/Philae2014
[00:28] <mikestir> it's gone into hibernation mode
[00:28] <amell> yeah but that doesnt say the consert data is downloaded
[00:28] <Geoff-G8DHE_> link intermittent
[00:29] <Geoff-G8DHE_> says ESA Ops
[00:29] <arko> https://twitter.com/Philae2014/status/533403430489178112
[00:29] <fsphilae> The @Philae2014 Lander has switched to stand by due to low power. All instruments off. Comm link still active
[00:29] <amell> ah yes
[00:29] Nick change: fsphilae -> fsphil
[00:29] <arko> :(
[00:29] <amell> did they actually get all the concert data though?
[00:30] <mikestir> well they're all getting pissed so I guess they're happy either way
[00:30] <fsphil> "Yes! CONSERT has sent back its data from a very tired @Philae2014 - have we "seen" the heart of the comet nucleus?"
[00:30] <amell> seems that way. seems a bit disrespectful. like having a piss up with someone on their deathbed
[00:30] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The @Philae2014 Lander has switched to stand by due to low power. All instruments off. Comm link still active #cometlanding
[00:31] <mikestir> I suppose it's a wake
[00:31] <fsphil> It's not dead, it's just resting
[00:31] <amell> resting in peace yes...
[00:31] <qyx_> uh, resting.. at some -200°C
[00:31] <mikestir> philae's just had too much to drink and is sleeping it off under a rock
[00:31] <arko> fsphil: hahaha
[00:31] <arko> "Bring out your dead!" -Rosetta
[00:31] <fsphil> with a comet as its pillow
[00:32] <x-f> "Lander now sending only housekeeping data at very low rate. All instruments are off. Comm link alive"
[00:32] <fsphil> their low rate is probably still faster than 50b/s
[00:32] <amell> ok. so i guess that means 100% done.
[00:32] <amell> the big question is will they hear the housekeeping data during tomorrows pass.
[00:33] <fsphil> well this was one of the most exciting landings ever
[00:33] <daveake> yup
[00:33] <x-f> yup
[00:33] <amell> yeah, cant wait for new horizons
[00:33] <Geoff-G8DHE_> indeed
[00:33] <mikestir> yeah but you'd probably manage more than 50 bps from a hab with one of these: http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/files/2014/11/DSA_3_Malarguee-1024x567.png
[00:33] <amell> i think thats the next wow one
[00:33] <arko> indeed
[00:33] <lz1dev> using that for habing is a bit of overkill
[00:34] <mikestir> you could pick up b64 by eme with it
[00:35] <SpeedEvil> http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CFsQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aero.polimi.it%2FSD2%2Fdocuments%2FSD2_papers%2Faerotecn_6_12_06.pdf&ei=TZ9mVJXaF4GCzAOw84DoCQ&usg=AFQjCNHk5XuYS6ORM4dzis1G3lKAAcEaWQ&sig2=suLNyPoJHLw2_26ZcXbfMQ
[00:35] <amell> I think we only have new horizons and juno to wait for now. not sure there are any more pending.
[00:35] <SpeedEvil> http://www.aero.polimi.it/SD2/documents/SD2_papers/aerotecn_6_12_06.pdf
[00:35] <SpeedEvil> ^detailed on the drill
[00:35] <SpeedEvil> 15W active, 1.5W standby
[00:35] <qyx_> i just realized how small this 1kWh primary battery pack might actually be
[00:35] <x-f> Hayabusa 2 launch is on Nov 30
[00:35] <mikestir> then with a bit of luck china or india will do a manned moon mission with a 4k video downlink
[00:35] <qyx_> like 110 AA cells
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[00:36] <fsphil> oh yes, Juno
[00:36] <fsphil> forgot about that
[00:36] <daveake> All science data uploaded
[00:36] <Myself> Tellya what, there's no reason *not* to send along a gratuitous 4k CCD, I mean, if it fries in the radiation, oh well, it only weighed a few grams. But oh dear, if you get images from it...
[00:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> You lot have got to get serious with your aerials if I can mage this mobile .... http://www.g8dhe.net/pictures/2013%5C06%5C20130601%5CDSCF5489.thn.JPG
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[00:37] <amell> we seems to be a bit light on the long term missions at the moment :(
[00:37] <SpeedEvil> Myself: the CCD may be low power
[00:37] <SpeedEvil> Myself: the optics aren't
[00:37] <Myself> SpeedEvil: low mass, ITYM, but yeah, good point.
[00:37] <SpeedEvil> Myself: nor are usually data transmission - from a bandwhdth and cost
[00:37] <amell> What are you doing on 14th July 2015?
[00:38] <fsphil> hopefully living
[00:38] <Myself> Sure, I'm just thinking, if you've got some bandwidth to spare while science experiments are running or whatever, might as well grab the prettiest images possible. Good for PR and funding. :P
[00:38] <amell> and looking at pictures of the surface of pluto.
[00:41] <chrisstubbs> Gaia is over 1Gpixels
[00:41] <fsphil> I would like video from mars
[00:41] <chrisstubbs> but it is a sodding great array of CCD's
[00:41] <fsphil> one of the landings
[00:41] <fsphil> curiosity got close
[00:42] <fsphil> but still not proper video, >=25fps
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[00:43] <chrisstubbs> I guess the main trouble is the sensors for rosetta were being developed like 15-20 years ago
[00:44] <Geoff-G8DHE_> good night all
[00:44] <fsphil> and LOS
[00:44] <fsphil> be interesting to see if it's still chatting on the next pass
[00:46] <amell> i want to see the pics that they downloaded
[00:47] <fsphil> they'll want to process them first
[00:47] <amell> everyone has photoshop...
[00:48] <amell> wow. just discovered that there are 22 plutonium powered pacemakers in service.
[00:48] <mikestir> bandwidth from the moon - wasn't chang'e running several Mbps most of the time?
[00:49] <mikestir> plenty for HD
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[00:49] <chrisstubbs> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/23/nasa_fires_up_622mbps_broadband_link_to_the_moon_and_back/
[00:50] <chrisstubbs> that should do it ;)
[00:50] <amell> This is absolutely fascinating& http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/12/20/health-heart-pacemaker-dc-idUKN1960427320071220
[00:50] <fsphil> the next manned lunar landings will have fantastic image quality
[00:50] <arko> :D
[00:50] <arko> omg
[00:50] <arko> thats a good point
[00:52] <Myself> Hehe. RTG pacemakers. That's awesome.
[00:52] <amell> http://www.implantable-device.com/2011/12/24/medtronics-atomic-pacemaker-1970/
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[00:54] <Myself> wow, tehre's a whole series on these
[00:55] <Myself> "McDonell-Douglas Betacel 400 which had promethium-147 sandwiched between semiconductor wafers. As the radioactive promethium isotope decays, it emits ²-particles (electrons). The impact of the ²-particles on a p-n junction causes a forward bias in the semiconductor similar to what happens in a photovoltaic cell (a solar cell)."
[00:55] <amell> I want one.
[00:55] <amell> would be ideal for powering B balloons.
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[00:56] <Myself> 1974 had surfacemount electronics?!
[00:56] <Myself> http://www.implantable-device.com/2011/12/24/arco-medicals-nuclear-powered-pacemaker-ca-1974/
[00:56] <Myself> bottom pic
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[01:08] <goopypanther> apollo had surface mount electronics, at least in certian parts
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[01:12] <SpeedEvil> What's available changes a bit if you're willing to pay $100 for a resistor
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[01:17] <goopypanther> I was more suprised that the AGC still used wirewrap when the SLVD had PCBs and surfacemount
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[01:20] <SpeedEvil> SLVD?
[01:20] <goopypanther> oops, SLVDC
[01:20] <goopypanther> the saturn rocket's guidance computer
[01:20] <SpeedEvil> ah
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[06:39] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03_NM5SS-9 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=_NM5SS-9
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[06:46] <lz1dev> !aprs
[06:46] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Tracking via APRS: 03M0UPU-9 10(M0UPU-Chase)
[06:47] <lz1dev> !aprs info NM5SS-9
[06:47] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03NM5SS-9 is near 03San Miguel County, NM, USA 10(35.14433,-105.33134) - 12http://aprs.fi/NM5SS-9
[06:47] <thasti> lz1dev: are aprs balloons automatically added as soon as they appear?
[06:47] <lz1dev> no
[06:47] <lz1dev> lots of sondes and it's only spam
[06:47] <lz1dev> !aprs autotrack
[06:47] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Auto-including of balloons is disabled.
[06:48] <thasti> okay. 0x04 will have aprs enabled, could you add DK3SB-4 after launch in abt. 2 hours?
[06:48] <lz1dev> is it only aprs or ukhas ?
[06:48] <thasti> both
[06:49] <thasti> ukhas call will be 0x04, aprs callsign dk3sb-4
[06:49] <lz1dev> !aprs dk3sb-4 0x04
[06:49] <lz1dev> !aprs add dk3sb-4 0x04
[06:49] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03dk3sb-4 as 10(0x04) to APRS Importer
[06:49] <thasti> uh
[06:49] <thasti> cool!
[06:49] <lz1dev> do you have telemetry on it ?
[06:50] <thasti> only altitude for now
[06:50] <lz1dev> since the aprs packets won't have ukhas telemetry
[06:51] <thasti> what does that mean? will speed and ascent rate still be displayed correctly?
[06:51] <lz1dev> yeh
[06:51] <lz1dev> i mean any custom telemetry
[06:51] <thasti> then only voltage and temperature will be only updated by ukhas tlm
[06:52] <lz1dev> yeah that's what i mean
[06:52] <lz1dev> ukhas and aprs packets don't merge
[06:52] <thasti> if that's not a problem then that's how it will be
[06:53] <lz1dev> so if you get one packet with telemetry and than aprs after
[06:53] <lz1dev> it will show the aprs packet, which has no telemetry
[06:53] <thasti> so voltage and temp get set to 0 or stay the same as the last tlm packet on the tracker?
[06:54] <lz1dev> no, they'll probably hide, until another ukhas packet arrives
[06:54] <thasti> okay. let's try that out
[06:55] <thasti> in case it's not working as well you could also put is as a separate symbol (as was the case with _M0XER-4)?
[06:55] <lz1dev> yeh
[06:55] <lz1dev> lets see what happens
[06:55] <lz1dev> but im 99% sure it will be messy :D
[06:55] <lz1dev> it was never intended to have late packets, or multiple sources of packets
[06:56] <thasti> we're not sure on how good aprs coverage will be anyways, the antenna is optimized for 70cm, just a first experiment
[06:56] <lz1dev> !aprs
[06:56] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Tracking via APRS: 03DK3SB-4 10(0x04), 03M0UPU-9 10(M0UPU-Chase)
[06:57] <thasti> we'll see how it goes, thanks for the support
[06:59] <thasti> unrelated other question: i looked into the mobile tracker code and wanted to start adding on-click popups for balloons, which shows their transmission frequency - any good source to pull those from?
[06:59] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03suv_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=suv_chase
[06:59] <thasti> they're not pulled right now as far as i can see
[06:59] <lz1dev> if you look into the SpacenearUS code
[06:59] <lz1dev> there is a bit that does that
[07:00] <lz1dev> !dial b-64
[07:00] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Latest dials for 03B-64 10(3afe): none
[07:00] <lz1dev> ^ that command
[07:00] <thasti> oh, k
[07:00] <thasti> will try
[07:01] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[07:01] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
[07:05] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=WB8ELK
[07:16] <lz1dev> !aprs list-bal
[07:16] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Recent balloons: OZ5DZL-9, KG7OKP-1, STRATH-11, AETH28-5, AETH28-4, AETH28-9, SQ5NWI-14, KE7ROS-11, SM7MUN-9, VE2WMG-11, BV5AC-11, PY3JRT-11, KD7ICN-11, SV1BYK-7, BV5DO-11, DF2EL-1, N3NB, SP5RZP-11, PU5PEP-11, AB5SS-5, OZ5DZL, SQ5AZK, CS7ACM-11, AETH28-3, AETH28-8, 9W2WIY-9, NM5SS-9, PU3XGS-11, AETH28-10, EA3IK-11, KF4EIX, M0XER-4, BV5AB-11, EA2SW-11, OK1LPD-11, ED1ZAR-11, NM5SS-8, EA5DOM-11, KK4ETE-11, K7RKT-1, W7ZUR-11
[07:19] <lz1dev> and that's why i don't autoimport
[07:19] <thasti> i see
[07:20] <lz1dev> most of those are weather sonde
[07:20] <thasti> commercial ones?
[07:21] <lz1dev> some yes
[07:21] <lz1dev> there is one make, which apperas in poland, spain and some country in south america
[07:21] <lz1dev> tried to find the model, couldn't
[07:22] <lz1dev> might be an addon thingy for the standart weather sonde
[07:22] <thasti> sounds reasonable that they use an existing high density network
[07:22] <lz1dev> not sure if they recover them after
[07:24] <lz1dev> reminds of someone talking about HA balloons making litter
[07:25] <lz1dev> they clearly have no idea how many wather sondes go up every day
[07:25] <thasti> yep
[07:26] <thasti> so many that you should see one on every field as it seems ;)
[07:26] <thasti> a ham i know recovered >400 sondes in the last years
[07:26] <thasti> only in our area
[07:28] <lz1dev> !aprs list-bal
[07:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: APRS Service API didn't respond in time
[07:28] <lz1dev> !aprs list-bal
[07:28] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Recent balloons: OZ5DZL-9, KG7OKP-1, STRATH-11, AETH28-5, AETH28-4, AETH28-9, SQ5NWI-14, KE7ROS-11, SM7MUN-9, VE2WMG-11, BV5AC-11, PY3JRT-11, KD7ICN-11, SV1BYK-7, BV5DO-11, N3NB, CS7ACM-11, DF2EL-1, SP5RZP-11, PU5PEP-11, AB5SS-5, OZ5DZL, SQ5AZK, AETH28-3, AETH28-8, 9W2WIY-9, NM5SS-9, PU3XGS-11, AETH28-10, EA3IK-11, M0XER-4, BV5AB-11, EA2SW-11, OK1LPD-11, W7ZUR-11, KF4EIX, ED1ZAR-11, EA5DOM-11, KK4ETE-11, K7RKT-1, NM5SS-8
[07:29] <lz1dev> !aprs list-bal
[07:29] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Recent balloons: SV1BYK-7, SP5RZP-11, OZ5DZL, NM5SS-9, OK1LPD-11
[07:29] <lz1dev> better
[07:29] <lz1dev> only last hour
[07:30] <thasti> alright, going for launch site now
[07:30] <thasti> cul
[07:30] <lz1dev> gl
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[07:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0UPU-Chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=M0UPU-Chase
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[08:07] <lz1dev> upu is currently driving through a park
[08:07] <lz1dev> call the police
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[08:24] <Upu> bloody horrible out there
[08:27] <nats`> we have english weather today in paris :\
[08:30] <Upu> you're welcome :)
[08:30] <Darkside> pretty english weather today here too
[08:30] <Upu> you're welcome :)
[08:30] <Darkside> lol
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[08:33] <nats`> :D
[08:34] <nats`> Upu that's cool but please stop sharing it :D
[08:35] <Upu> :)
[08:36] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABDUINO - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=HABDUINO
[08:36] <Upu> oh I do like not having to make a payload doc :)
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[08:52] <cats7896> Hey, I was told a while back where to get a balloon and parachute but for get where can someone help with remembering.
[08:53] <mikestir> cats7896: http://randomsolutions.co.uk/Random_Aerospace/Welcome.html
[08:54] <cats7896> Thats it!
[08:56] <andyfletcher> nats`, just to make you feel worse. 28C, 10km winds, 10% cloud and no rain since March here in Doha
[08:58] <cats7896> ok
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[09:00] <Upu> lol
[09:01] <cats7896> Thanks for the help I got to go to bed.
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[09:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 030x04 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=0x04
[09:04] <lz1dev> !aprs
[09:04] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Tracking via APRS: 03DK3SB-4 10(0x04), 03M0UPU-9 10(M0UPU-Chase)
[09:04] <lz1dev> !aprs ping dk3sb-4
[09:04] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Cannot locate the callsign.
[09:08] <thasti> 0x04 is up now
[09:08] <lz1dev> !aprs ping dk3sb-4
[09:08] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Cannot locate the callsign.
[09:17] <thasti> lz1dev: yep, disappeared
[09:17] <thasti> could you do it as a seperate callsign?
[09:22] <lz1dev> !aprs ping dk3sb-4
[09:22] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03DK3SB-4 was 03a few seconds ago
[09:23] <lz1dev> !aprs remove dk3sb-4
[09:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Removed 03DK3SB-4 from APRS Importer
[09:23] <lz1dev> !aprs add dk3sb-4 0x04_aprs
[09:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 03DK3SB-4 as 10(0x04_aprs) to APRS Importer
[09:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 030x04_aprs - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=0x04_aprs
[09:24] <thasti> thanks!
[09:37] <LeoBodnar> Float time (s) http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:microballoons:data
[09:40] <lz1dev> 10800000
[09:41] <lz1dev> you will need log scale for time
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[09:45] <mikestir> any gnuradio experts about?
[09:46] <mikestir> or generic sdr dsp experts...
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[09:49] <sq3dho> Hi everyone !
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[09:51] <sq3dho> I'm looking for informations abt 0x04, frequencies, mode ?
[09:51] <lz1dev> !payload 0x04
[09:51] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Payload 030x04 10(46d2) 03$$0x04 - 03primary RTTY telemetry stream - 03434.075 MHz USB 03DominoEX with speed 0316
[09:52] <lz1dev> not sure if that's true
[09:52] <sq3dho> ooh, thanx! 73!
[09:52] <lz1dev> !dial 0x04
[09:52] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Latest dials for 030x04 10(46d2): 03434.073 MHz, 434.07698 MHz, 494.075 MHz
[09:54] <sq3dho> yeah, i'm waiting for a signal, nothing yet
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[09:56] <mclane_> gm, upu here?
[09:57] <Upu> yup
[09:57] <mclane_> I see you in spacenear with a pi in the sky plus
[09:57] <mclane_> are you using the new raspi a+ already?
[09:58] <Upu> yups test flights tommorrow
[09:58] <mclane_> cool! good luck!
[09:58] <Upu> ta
[09:59] <mclane_> I got a raspi a+ this week and tried to run it on the 5 V GPIO header pin
[09:59] <mclane_> it worked down to 3.3 V
[10:00] <mclane_> do you connect a 4.5 V battery directly or do you have some sort of additional power supply?
[10:00] <mclane_> (directly to the 5 V pin)
[10:00] <mclane_> and are you using the 3.3 V pin to supply the ublox and the rest?
[10:01] <Upu> got this amazing buck boost that runs from 15V down to 2.8V and supplies 5V to the Pi
[10:01] <mclane_> (that is what I plan to do)
[10:01] <Upu> at 2A
[10:01] <Upu> really efficient too
[10:01] <mclane_> I saw something on github
[10:02] <Upu> needs loads of passives but works really well
[10:02] <thasti> sq3dho: 0x04 is dominoEX16, 30 second interval
[10:03] <sq3dho> thasti, thanx !
[10:05] <mclane_> upu: there is a v2.3 schematic - is it that one?
[10:05] <Upu> yep
[10:06] <jededu> upu do you know your frequencies for tomorrow yet ?
[10:06] <Upu> tbc
[10:07] <jededu> Ok I might launch somthing
[10:07] <jededu> But monday looks better
[10:09] <Upu> don't use 650
[10:09] <Upu> BARC are on that
[10:10] <jededu> Ok thanks i can pull the pins on this one
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[10:25] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI_SKY_PLUS - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PI_SKY_PLUS
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[10:26] <DJ3AK> 0x04 strong here but local ISM on 434.075 is stronger :(
[10:27] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03M0UPU-Chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=M0UPU-Chase
[10:28] <PE2G> Guten Morgen DJ3AK, what floating altitude are you aiming for?
[10:29] <thasti> DJ3AK: problem seems to be that baudrate for domino is drifting off too far
[10:29] <thasti> but APRS on 434.075 works very well
[10:30] <DJ3AK> PE2G Guten Morgen, keine Ahnung, ich bin nur Zuhörer
[10:30] <PE2G> OK
[10:31] <thasti> PE2G we are aiming for ~6km
[10:31] <thasti> DJ3AK: can you decode APRS on 434.075?
[10:31] <PE2G> Tnx for the info, thasti
[10:33] <thasti> hope it gets somewhat warmer up there..
[10:33] <DJ3AK> thasti tnx info. I will try APRS 434.075
[10:34] <thasti> DJ3AK: thanks
[10:35] <DJ3AK> thasti despite strong ISM interferer (S5..S8) DOMX16 sometimes gives nearly green decode
[10:36] <thasti> yeah nearly .. for us too, but even with no interference there are errors, seems to us that it's baudrate
[10:36] <mclane_> thasti: why not using a frequency a few 100 kHz higher next time?
[10:36] <thasti> mclane_: would be no problem
[10:36] <mclane_> then you are a little bit away from the main ISM "disturbers"
[10:36] <thasti> RF carrier is TCXO, controller clock is only internal oscillator .. will also have it from the TXCO next flight i guess
[10:36] <thasti> okay
[10:36] <thasti> will try
[10:40] <PE2G> thasti: here is the Lindenberg (Berlin) 00UTC sounding with temps:
[10:40] <PE2G> http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=europe&TYPE=TEXT%3ALIST&YEAR=2014&MONTH=11&FROM=1500&TO=1500&STNM=10393
[10:43] <DJ3AK> thasti no APRS-signals on 434.075 received here so far
[10:44] <thasti> DJ3AK: decoding here ok, APRS in FM
[10:45] <mikestir> thasti: are you tuning a pll to do the dominoex or pulling the xtal?
[10:45] <thasti> PLL tuning
[10:45] <mikestir> well run the mcu and the tx off the same crystal
[10:45] <DJ3AK> thasti ok, I will keep trying.
[10:45] <thasti> yup, plan for next time :)
[10:46] <mikestir> then you have a proper coherent relationship between the frequency spacing and the baud
[10:46] <thasti> mikestir: i somewhat underestimated the effects of the coherency you mentioned
[10:46] <thasti> learning from mistakes...
[10:46] <mikestir> it's quite key - if you think about the spectrum of the individual carriers they are designed so that the next carrier fits in the spectral null of the previous one
[10:47] <thasti> yep, makes sense
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[10:47] <mikestir> if the baud and spacing are coherent then you'll get interference between the carriers, at best degrading performance and at worst breaking it altogether
[10:47] <mikestir> *aren't coherent
[10:47] <thasti> that's what we're noticing right now
[10:47] <thasti> SNR readings are also bad
[10:48] <thasti> small PCB mod should do the trick
[10:48] <mikestir> I also found dominoex to have quite bad doppler rejection compared with olivia/contestia
[10:48] <mikestir> when I was developing my little tracker I tested it in the car on dominoex and it worked quite well, but only when stopped at traffic lights
[10:49] <mikestir> olivia worked basically continuously
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[10:51] <thasti> yeah maybe we will also opt for that
[10:51] <thasti> multipsk seems to be better at decoding .. any way to get those lines into dl-fldigi?
[10:53] <thasti> good decodings there, none in fldigi
[10:55] <thasti> lz1dev: ?
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[10:56] <PE2BZ> !payload 0x04
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 030x04 10(46d2) 03$$0x04 - 03primary RTTY telemetry stream - 03434.075 MHz USB 03DominoEX with speed 0316
[10:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G-08 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=G-08
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[11:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G-07 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=G-07
[11:02] <thasti> lol, best workaround ever: decoding on multipsk, playback of the RX text via transmit function, reception on dl-fldigi -> green lines
[11:02] <PE2G> !dial 0x04
[11:02] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2G: Latest dials for 030x04 10(46d2): none
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[11:07] <Oddstr13> http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html?qth=JP52AQ&from=MN83&t=n received with JT65 on 10m.. I'm amazed at the range o.o
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[11:11] <mclane_> just running multipsk in wine -> decodes (but it has a lousy UI)
[11:12] <thasti> yep
[11:12] <thasti> it sure has
[11:12] <thasti> but decoding is muuuch better than fldigi
[11:12] <thasti> we're just piping the green lines into fldigi right now
[11:13] <thasti> is there a URL-scheme for directly sending telemetry data to SNUS?
[11:15] <mclane_> there is something, but I never understood it - look into the habitat doc here: http://habitat.habhub.org/jse/
[11:16] <mikestir> I did something to do the reverse which might be a starting point?
[11:16] <thasti> what would be the reverse for that?
[11:16] <mikestir> queries habhub to drive a dashboard webpage
[11:18] <mikestir> http://www.mike-stirling.com/hab/hab.js <-- that's the guts of it. It uses some jquery.couch.js file. I guess you can submit a doc using the same thing, but I bet there's an easier way to do it in python
[11:24] <thasti> okay, will look into this
[11:28] <mfa298> thasti: which version of dl-fldigi do you use (is it the stable windows build or something else)
[11:28] <thasti> 3.21.50
[11:29] <thasti> liunx
[11:29] <thasti> linux*
[11:29] <mfa298> how did you install on linux?
[11:29] <thasti> compiled myself
[11:29] <mfa298> it's not the latest git version is it ?
[11:29] <thasti> compiled some time ago, would it be of any worth to recompile latest git?
[11:29] <mfa298> because rtty in the latest git is horrendous
[11:30] <thasti> yeah noticed that, we're dominoex here
[11:30] <thasti> it's a version where RTTY is still OK
[11:30] <mfa298> ah ok,
[11:31] <mfa298> if you use git checkout the DL3.1 release (as per http://ukhas.org.uk/projects:dl-fldigi:build-ubuntu#building_stable_version_on_ubuntu_1404)
[11:31] <mfa298> I'm not sure there's much change on domino (although could be worth trying the different versions and see if ones better
[11:34] <thasti> compiling
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[11:40] <Herman-PB0AHX> !flights
[11:40] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Current flights: 030x04 - Pico Flight 10(46d2), 03SP5NVX RTTY 144.675  10(c5a1), 03PicoHorus-N+1 10(c274), 03WB8ELK_UAH_111514 10(9f9b), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe)
[11:40] <Herman-PB0AHX> !dail 0x04
[11:41] <Herman-PB0AHX> !dial 0x04
[11:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Latest dials for 030x04 10(46d2): none
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[11:44] <thasti> Herman-PB0AHX: 0x04 frequency 434.075
[11:44] <Herman-PB0AHX> thasti: mni tnx
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[11:46] <Herman-PB0AHX> any chance of hearing here
[11:49] <Herman-PB0AHX> 0x04 is rtty 50 ???or other mode
[11:50] <thasti> dominoEX16
[11:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> ok
[11:51] <thasti> wind seems to take it north-north-east
[11:52] <Herman-PB0AHX> bad but maby we have luck
[11:53] <Herman-PB0AHX> nobody is writing him ?
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[11:56] <PE2G> Herman-PB0AHX: 0x04 is too far below my horizon and in my blind spot...
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[11:58] <Herman-PB0AHX> PE2G: good day i hearing also nil but maby if he is up 10km
[12:01] <PE2G> Herman-PB0AHX: It's hardly climbing anymore: http://x-f.lv/dev/habitat-graphs/payload/0x04#g/altitude
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[12:08] <thasti> DJ3AK: any luck on reception?
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[12:19] <DJ3AK> thasti APRS on 434.075 is strong but UI-VIEW somehow does not decode it
[12:20] Nick change: day- -> day
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[12:24] <thasti> hmh DJ3AK okay
[12:24] <thasti> i'm using TNC2S here, worked good until strength was down to S1
[12:25] <thasti> DJ3AK: any chance for domino TLM with MultiPSK?
[12:31] <DJ3AK> is that MPSK31?
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[12:33] <thasti> no, it's a different software, called MultiPSK
[12:33] <thasti> dominoEX16 decodes without problems there
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[12:34] <DJ3AK> ah, ok. did not try that software yet. will give it a try
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[12:48] <DJ3AK> thasti seems ok with miultiPSK. how do I get the TLM to SNUS then?
[12:50] <thasti> DJ3AK: we are using a second PC and fldigi to TX the multiPSK-received frames, receive them via audio line cable with dl-fldigi and upload them to SNUS
[12:51] <thasti> would be convenient to have just a URL to paste the strings into..did not find any existing mechanism for that
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[12:58] <DJ3AK> thasti I must leave now but will be back in abt. 30-40 min
[12:58] <thasti> no problems :)
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[13:01] <DJ3AK> $$$$0x04,456,130031,+5157.5896,+01226.8347,4414,11,1448,-01*3B9B
[13:01] <DJ3AK> thasti bye for now
[13:05] <thasti> DJ3AK: getting warmer, now deconding in fldigi works again
[13:07] <thasti> you're already uploading :)
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[14:14] <Tramvai> Hey guys. Is it safe to launch on a cloudy day in autumn?
[14:14] <Tramvai> I'm guessing the water from the clouds could cause harm.
[14:15] <number10> its fine
[14:16] <daveake> You can launch in rain
[14:17] <daveake> Just don't try a floater like that :/
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[14:36] <DJ3AK> thasti I just returned. ufb copy nw
[14:38] <thasti> DJ3AK: nice, thanks for tracking
[14:38] <thasti> luckily it ascended again and its warmer now
[14:38] <thasti> so baudrate is quite OK atm
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[14:47] <thasti> it's getting cold out here on the launch site .. we'll start to move towards home
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[15:21] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PI_SKY - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PI_SKY
[15:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03ORION - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=ORION
[15:25] <Upu> jededu can you use a frequency other than the ones I posted ?
[15:25] <mclane_> uh - fog in Great Britain
[15:25] <Upu> heh
[15:25] <mclane_> (like here ;-)
[15:25] <Upu> yeah thats the sunny view from my window
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[15:26] <fsphil> clear blue skies here
[15:26] <Upu> if you observe ssdv.habhub.org live weather from Halifax
[15:26] <fsphil> though you live on a mountain
[15:26] <Upu> been like this all day and been to Leeds earlier just as bad there
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[15:26] <fsphil> yikes
[15:27] <Upu> we played a game called spot the moron it was very easy
[15:27] <Upu> it was the silver cars with no head lights on you didn't see until they nearly hit you
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[15:31] <thasti> anyone still signals from 0x04?
[15:32] <thasti> i can't hear it from my home QTH
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[15:42] <fox123> hallo all, please how frequency and mode 0x04
[15:42] <thasti> fox123: frequency 434.075
[15:42] <thasti> mode dominoEX16
[15:42] <thasti> and APRS
[15:42] <thasti> every 30 seconds
[15:43] <fox123> TNX 73
[15:43] <thasti> fox123: where are you located?
[15:43] <fox123> JO60hf
[15:43] <fox123> Lomnice u SOKOLOVA my call OK1SLA
[15:43] <thasti> ahh you are OK1SLA :)
[15:44] <thasti> seen you on the map
[15:45] <thasti> if you can receive it, would be nice to see even incorrect frames here
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[15:48] <fox123> sorry, I dont receive it
[15:49] <SP3OSJ> Hi I'm new. I look map balloon flies 0x04. Nobody has written what is the transmitter. Anyone knows its frequency?
[15:50] <mclane_> frequency is 434.075 MHz, DominoEX16
[15:50] <dl3yc> frequecy of 0x04 is 434.075MHz
[15:50] <SP3OSJ> OK thanks
[15:51] <sq3dho> OSJ, z ktorej czêsci SP3 ?
[15:52] <drsnik> Hi all
[15:52] <sq3dho> Hi
[15:52] <qyx_> pila according to map
[15:53] <sq3dho> thx
[15:54] <SP3OSJ> Frequency 434.075 typical operating noise is not much good. Need to set ~ 434,500 there is better.
[15:54] <thasti> okay, will do that next time
[15:54] <mclane_> yes
[15:54] <drsnik> as Ok1ASL asked 0x04, is it going over Czech?
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[15:54] <mclane_> proposed that to thasti this morning for next time ;-)
[15:55] <mikestir> who wrote that ukhasnet soft decoder?
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[15:55] <thasti> drsnik: doesn't seem so, prediction says it's going north in direction sweden
[15:56] <qyx_> drsnik: its heading north
[15:56] <thasti> maybe SA6BSS-Mike can hold an eye (/ear) open for it?
[15:56] <qyx_> mikestir: there are at least two versions afaik, the second one was made by jonsowman
[15:57] <qyx_> i forgot the name of the first author, something like "vinscen..."
[15:57] <mikestir> ok. it's fsk isn't it? I've written a gnuradio-based decoder for something non-hab-related I'm doing but its performance is rubbish. just wanted to compare notes
[15:57] <drsnik> tnx i read OK1SLA (zdravi OK7DR) but he is more on west of CZ...
[15:58] <SP3OSJ> This transmitter is not suitable DominoEX16 than 5 minutes walking only: ......titita titita titita titita........
[15:59] <qyx_> mikestir: this was probably the first https://github.com/vincentsan/UKHASnet-decoder
[16:00] <SA6BSS-Mike> thasti: yep I will , just put the kids to sleep and I will climbe the roof and mount my new 20ele 3,3m boom 15dbd 70cm yagi .
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[16:01] <thasti> uuuh :) that sounds like a nice antenna to have
[16:01] <thasti> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/140590_trj001.gif
[16:02] <thasti> that's the prediction for today, maybe it'll get in your range
[16:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> yep, hopefully the rotor will work as wel.
[16:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26543754/IMG_2066_rsz.jpg
[16:02] <thasti> nice one
[16:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> with the yagi it chould
[16:02] <SA6BSS-Mike> I mail oz1sky so he can listen for it to
[16:03] <mikestir> qyx_: thanks that's useful. It seems to have a fairly simple clock recovery algorithm though. I'm using one of the gnuradio blocks but it just doesn't seem to work very well
[16:04] <thasti> thanks! i tried mailing several SP3MCY and SP1TMN, maybe they can get it as well
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[16:08] <SP3OSJ> sq3dho: Ja jestem z Centrum Baloniarstwa Polskiego czyli z PiBy
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[16:14] <SP3OSJ> Is 0x04 and 0x04_aprs is one balloon?
[16:14] <thasti> yep
[16:15] <SP3OSJ> OK balloon is solar power?
[16:15] <thasti> no, AA battery, ~60 hours power
[16:17] <SP3OSJ> what is the time between frames?
[16:18] <SP3OSJ> 1h -> 1frames?
[16:19] <thasti> aprs and domino every 30sec
[16:19] <thasti> but APRS only on the 70cm frequency (434.075) as there is no 2m antenna concept yet
[16:19] <thasti> sad, would be very effective ..
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[16:23] <SP3OSJ> This means that I can not hear the balloon only have any other device. I receive only ...... titita titita titita titita ........ freq: 434.075.700
[16:23] <thasti> this should not be the tracker, yes
[16:23] <thasti> could you make a sound recording?
[16:24] <SP3OSJ> yes
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[16:34] <SP3OSJ> Sebastian receive mail email
[16:35] <thasti> did you send it to dl3yc?
[16:35] <SP3OSJ> yes
[16:35] <thasti> okay, i will try to reach him
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[16:42] <DL7AD> !hysplit 0x04
[16:42] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
[16:42] <DL7AD> !hysplit 0x04
[16:42] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
[16:42] <DL7AD> !flight 0x04
[16:42] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: Flight 10(46d2): 030x04 - Pico Flight 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 09:00 from 03Thuringia, Germany 10(50.86732,11.96714)
[16:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> DL7AD: http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/140590_trj001.gif
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[16:46] <DL7AD> SA6BSS-Mike: thx
[16:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> pnephos: contact la3eq, he is usuly in here and have a good antennas and perfect location for this balloon
[16:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> it shuild be thasti:
[16:47] <SA6BSS-Mike> thasti: contact la3eq, he is usuly in here and have a good antennas and perfect location for this balloon
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[16:48] <thasti> SA6BSS-Mike: alright, i will try that
[16:49] <SA6BSS-Mike> I mailed oz1sky, we will se if he pops in here
[16:54] <gurgalof> DL7AD: saw the email, I'm unfortunately not home at the moment, I will see if I get something tonight if I remember it when I get home
[16:54] <DL7AD> gurgalof: okay
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[16:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> hi
[16:55] <SA6BSS-Mike> tjena
[16:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> tjena Mikael
[16:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> not hearing anything on 434.075 yet
[16:56] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, sänder var 30 sekund
[16:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> whats the last knowen freq?
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[16:56] <thasti> could take another hour or two .. dial for me was 434.073.8, NF is then about 1000hz in fldigi
[16:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thasti ok thanks
[16:57] <thasti> in case it didn't lose altitude after sunset it should go right over your head
[16:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> got some unfriendly´s on that freq (ISM)
[16:58] <SA6BSS-Mike> allot of recivers do, I g
[16:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> I will take the batterys out of my outdoor temsensor
[16:59] <SA6BSS-Mike> *tempsensor
[16:59] <thasti> yep, got told that some times today :) will try ~434.500 for next flight
[16:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> no rx for over 2 hours?
[17:00] <thasti> yep, DJ3AK was the last remaining tracker in north germany and went offline
[17:00] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but SP1TMN should be well in range?
[17:00] <thasti> no luck contacting him
[17:01] <thasti> tried email
[17:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh ok
[17:01] <thasti> maybe he'll read it eventually
[17:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> SM7DSE should be in range before me
[17:01] <thasti> i'll try dropping him an email as well
[17:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> R
[17:03] <thasti> can't find email-address
[17:06] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 2 beebs just heard?
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[17:19] <thasti> alright, gotta go. appreciate all your help! thanks
[17:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> texted sm7dse, lets se if he listen for it
[17:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> lets hope so
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[17:24] <Rebounder> SA6BSS-Mike: gokväll
[17:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> halloj
[17:25] <SA6BSS-Mike> allt väl??
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[17:27] <Rebounder> SA6BSS-Mike: skapligt, 1 vecka VAB..
[17:27] <Rebounder> SA6BSS-Mike: själv?
[17:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> he, ok, vi har blivit förkylda hela familjen nu, men nu e barnen nästan friska o jag o frugan snorar :/
[17:28] <Rebounder> SA6BSS-Mike: styp varit samam här, default höst...
[17:28] <SA6BSS-Mike> japp, samma visa varje höst :)
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[17:31] <SA6BSS-Mike> OZ1SKY_Brian: "2 beebs just heard?" could be a satellite passing
[17:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> maybe, nothing heard since
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[17:37] <jededu> upu where have you posted the frequencies ?
[17:38] <daveake> mailing list#
[17:42] <jededu> Thanks daveake found it, just a few payloads then :) I can use 434.225
[17:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 0x04 might still be alive, its reported near hannover
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[17:56] <DL1SGP> yo folks
[17:56] <DL1SGP> 0x04,1019,175554,+W32W.ao att 0a02651,4309,11bIJ4QIG*F
[17:56] <SpeedEvil> ;)
[17:56] <DL1SGP> working on it however time for dinner
[17:57] <DL7AD> !hysplit 0x04
[17:57] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
[17:57] <DL1SGP> so bear with me or beer with me as you like
[17:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> whats your dial felix?
[17:58] <DL7AD> 434.075
[17:59] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK after 0310 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=WB8ELK
[18:02] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DL1SGP please paste more lat/lon decodes
[18:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> if 10.19 is correct, its on line with Kiel
[18:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> so it have moved western
[18:04] <DG0MG> oooh DL1SGP , yessss, more of these Lines! pse :)
[18:04] <DG0MG> thank you!
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[18:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> might, and i say might be getting a weak signal now
[18:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sounds like very weak domx16
[18:18] <DL7AD> does anyone know the exakt coordinates OZ1SKY_Brian ?
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[18:18] <OZ1SKY_Brian> not yet
[18:19] <OZ1SKY_Brian> surely domx16, but still too weak
[18:19] <DG0MG> I think it could be nr Waren/Müritz
[18:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> nothing usefull yet
[18:20] <DG0MG> because of average 32 km/h since start
[18:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> F3oBN,182014,+5332.Wa07b ooa269ob4878,11,34Yot*RNE7
[18:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$xeOP26b182044,ft533o.t6b+S1oB3.2755,490V,10bLnQbQo rtT04
[18:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> :o2foi1067,18211 J833onRn,lraox23.295 4Q05,awiQ,=1!*0E73
[18:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ÉÙ oo2 t1068,17014Yj+eia.8r,S1223.29nimthoca te=I7*FF6E
[18:22] <DG0MG> Brian, whats your Locator?
[18:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> jo56dg
[18:22] <DG0MG> ok, mom
[18:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$0x04,1t70baffotN333.22
[18:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 08,+0O223oYGoaVerw10,1436,-18*Q6Ci
[18:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$`0 SnOoa,182454,+5333.Ya0U,pao1.3557,4971,10,144tO=O6*
[18:24] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oSeS4,1073,182424,@53P-oPoJo1223.3587,4975,10b14ieDI3263
[18:25] <DG0MG> ~153 degrees from you?
[18:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> looks liek its near Boizenburg
[18:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 10.73/53.33
[18:26] <DL1SGP> back from dinner
[18:27] <DL7AD> hi DL1SGP , thx OZ1SKY_Brian
[18:27] <DL1SGP> $$$txexQopK82704,+5334.412to23.4043,5056
[18:28] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 0x04,1079,182734,+533i564-eS1
[18:29] <DL1SGP> 1023.4245,5055wo9,YP4to0527 might be the east value the 1023.4245
[18:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 55km south east of hamburg
[18:30] <DG0MG> how many '10's do we have? Think it must be '12'
[18:30] <DL1SGP> cfm 12
[18:30] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i got more 10´s then 12´s
[18:30] <DL1SGP> signal is getting better for me at present so fingers crossed :D
[18:31] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 1086,183114,+53HF.XG00,tI2a3.2076,5157,08,343abQ20*0I6C
[18:31] <DL1SGP> 1023.4245,5055wo9,YP4to0527
[18:31] <DL1SGP> err
[18:32] <DL1SGP> 04,1086,183114,5a5.a4ttet1223.6076,51W7,0UO3ab=ot*SL
[18:32] <OZ1SKY_Brian> x04,1087,183144,5335.7800b0I22r2057,5168,1
[18:32] <DL1SGP> 04,1088,1832O4tQi.a100,+01223.XU3twL5BeH433,-20*2844
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[18:33] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Boizenburg is my gess
[18:34] <DL1SGP> too weak for that on my end I would say. if it was 12 instead of 10 would make sense
[18:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it should decode now with out problems, but i still get error
[18:35] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$^0x04w1t183524,+5336.812ow0a0a3.8016,5190,1t,1430b
[18:36] <DL1SGP> I also got some transmitters in proximity here that kick into the signal each time
[18:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $ÙÙof04,1096,183634,r533V.O22PtO023.8421,519Xb10,1430,=0aii42
[18:37] <DG0MG> Brian, Boizenburg ist 10° , DL1SGP decodes 12°
[18:37] <DL1SGP> +01223.8531
[18:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ^$ÙÙt SJb1098,183734,5337V3973w0Ia23.8X2Sw52e11,1431,-21*5300
[18:38] <DG0MG> and 12° is on the line from Start
[18:38] <DL1SGP> $0x04,1099,18804,<5Q.eaie,+01223.8773,5223,0,aaeQ01*8C7C
[18:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ^ÙÙo t4,1099,183804,+5P37.Wo5F,0Ooo3rOt7ib5a23,10,1432,-218Cne
[18:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 1099,182804 comfirmed then
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[18:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> sri mean 1099,18
[18:39] <OZ1SKY_Brian> tx seems to be faulty, getting a clear signal here, but faulty decodes
[18:40] <DL7AD> i can hear it loud and clearly with my handheld but does aprs use fm or ssb?
[18:40] <DG0MG> Yes, it has a problem
[18:40] <DL1SGP> still getting the 12 here, in 5 transmissions now
[18:40] <DG0MG> FM, Sven
[18:40] <DL7AD> hm,...... but it sounds like ssb
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[18:40] <DL7AD> which frequency does aprs use?
[18:40] <DL1SGP> 144.8
[18:41] <DG0MG> 434.075
[18:41] <DL7AD> no the balloon
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[18:41] <DL1SGP> ah
[18:41] <DL7AD> and probably the exact frequency
[18:41] <DL7AD> whats the exact frequency?
[18:41] <DG0MG> the ballon send on 144.800 too, but no ant for 2m
[18:41] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DG0MG what is the string format?
[18:42] <DL1SGP> 434.074,15 at 1000Hz
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[18:42] <DL1SGP> 5338.4160,+01223.oo 5XB,11,1429,=21>09C
[18:42] <DG0MG> Brian: http://dooce.de/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=projekte:picoflights:0x04
[18:43] <DL1SGP> what I could try is to pack the rig and drive into the fields, so that I get no QRM from the transmitters in proximity
[18:43] <DL1SGP> the signal itself is quite bouncy
[18:44] <DL1SGP> +01224.055o
[18:44] <DL1SGP> again +12 for east
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[18:45] <DL1SGP> so it might be near Wittstock
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[18:46] <DG0MG> yes here, Waren wasnt too faulty :D https://goo.gl/maps/dqrcH
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[18:47] <DL1SGP> 01224.14
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[18:48] <DL1SGP> looks like it DG0MG
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[18:49] <DG0MG> yesw 12 24: https://goo.gl/maps/nXVuH
[18:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> +01224.2434
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[18:49] <DL1SGP> TU Brian:)
[18:49] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 5340.0873
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[18:50] <DL1SGP> 5340.5560
[18:50] <DL1SGP> hmm
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[18:52] <DL1SGP> 5340.9834
[18:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Near Plau am See
[18:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> acording to google maps
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[18:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> about 60km east of Schwerin
[18:53] <mattbrejza> !whereis 0x04
[18:54] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: 030x04 was over 03Garlitz, Germany 10(52.53577,12.55596) at 035433 meters about 034 hours ago
[18:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$0x04,1129b185354ti1.5162,+01224.3Pa4,52XW,o8,1rQao1338
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[18:55] <DL1SGP> gonna try something afk for a bit
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[18:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> got a consistency of 5340 / 1224
[18:55] <DG0MG> ok
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[18:56] <DG0MG> thats right with the prediction
[18:56] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BUZZ - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=BUZZ
[18:57] <DG0MG> battery should work abt 50 hours or more
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[18:57] <OZ1SKY_Brian> too weak for aprs still
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[18:58] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but i hear it at the start
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[19:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 1419mv
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[19:01] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 5286m
[19:02] <DG0MG> The step-up-regulator works down to ~0.9 V
[19:02] <DL1SGP> back
[19:03] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ca 53°43'40.0"N 11°43'00.0"E
[19:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> https://www.google.de/maps/place/53%C2%B043%2740.0%22N+11%C2%B043%2700.0%22E/@53.8642417,12.245448,378105m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0?hl=de
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[19:04] <DL1SGP> getting much weaker here by now
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[19:04] <OZ1SKY_Brian> getting stronger here
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[19:05] <DL1SGP> let me teleport to Ebeltoft then :D
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[19:05] <DL1SGP> signal is getting better agn
[19:08] <OZ1SKY_Brian> what should i be using for aprs soundscard decoding?
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[19:09] <DL1SGP> Windows Szstem brian?
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[19:09] <OZ1SKY_Brian> win7
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[19:09] <DL1SGP> try agwpe
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[19:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ill try that
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[19:16] <DG0MG> One Hint: We figured out, that MultiPSK decodes this Payload MORE BETTER than flDigi
[19:16] <DG0MG> OZ1SKY, DL!SGP, try "MultiPSK"
[19:16] <DL1SGP> that rings a bell :P let me see if I find it on here
[19:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> R
[19:16] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03maddy_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=maddy_chase
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[19:20] <Myself> I'm surprised that there's no good click-and-play decoder for windows (and I know, I should write one, hah!), last time I tried to get agwpe working I spent two evenings in System Restore hell after totally hosing half my drivers and registry..
[19:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> oh no i remember this multipsk, its a mess to work out
[19:20] <DG0MG> many Switches :D
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[19:21] <DL1SGP> it does not even want to start for me lol
[19:22] <DG0MG> dont forget to switch to '16'
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[19:22] <OZ1SKY_Brian> how is it you do a manual upload?
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[19:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DG0MG yes multipsk seems to do alot better
[19:23] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$$0x04,1182,192154,+5348.1784,+01223.1915,5260,09,1428,-22*3EA3
[19:23] <DG0MG> please copy and Paste a Line here
[19:23] <DG0MG> ohhaa very good :d
[19:24] <DG0MG> from time to time
[19:24] <DL7AD> $$$$0x04,1178,1na5347.6717,+012oa2iS6,531 0,09,1427,=0338
[19:24] <DG0MG> I dont know, whether you ca
[19:24] <DL7AD> $$$$0f4t3,192224,+5348.2QI0b taa03.1789,5274,tQ,at2
[19:24] <Upu> I can upload that
[19:24] <DG0MG> n do an update manually
[19:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03maddy_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=maddy_chase
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[19:25] <DG0MG> upu: please can you do that?
[19:25] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$$0x04,1188,192504,+5348.8956,+01223.0452,5304,08,1426,-21*B35A
[19:25] <Upu> failed
[19:25] <DG0MG> from time to time :D
[19:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$$0x04,1189,192534,+5349.0168,+01223.0014,5306,10,1427,-22*41ED
[19:26] <Upu> there you go
[19:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$$$0x04,1190,192604,+5349.1404,+01222.9805,5326,09,1427,-22*EB66
[19:26] <Upu> afk a bit
[19:26] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thanks
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[19:27] <DG0MG> yes, thanks - new pos on the map
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[19:29] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ill try to post every 10min or so
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[19:29] <DG0MG> would be great
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[19:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> reboot, brb
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[19:41] <DL1SGP> multipsk now running
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[19:44] <DG0MG> sgp can you decode lines?
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[19:45] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,1226,194504,+5353.9588,+01222.6875,5304,08,1427,-22*FB05
[19:45] <DG0MG> looks good :)
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[19:48] <DL1SGP> :)
[19:48] <DG0MG> nr Rostock Airport
[19:50] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,1234jH94924,+5354.9911,+01262.5885,5402,07,1427,-23*F1AA
[19:50] <chrisstubbs> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3W4x-R6OI
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[19:51] <astrobiologist> so I'm testing some qrp modes... I am transmitting WSPR on 14.0956 from London, but nobody seems to be hearing me. any WSPRnet afficinados out there who could listen out for me?
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[19:53] <DL1SGP> 0x04 is getting weaker and weaker for me hopefully OZ1SKY will be back soon
[19:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> im here but my pc is giving me problems
[19:57] <DL1SGP> $$$0x04,1248,1563+Io.ro29,+B1222.3502,89,09,14252X*6D2C
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[19:59] <DL7AD> i've got some good decodes by a friend
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[19:59] <DL7AD> but it seems to be OZ1SKY_Brian got it too
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[20:00] <DL1SGP> got one here myself but it is getting ugly now, welcome back sven
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[20:04] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,126100334,+5357.9,+01222.0837,5307Tf9,14,-21*688B
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[20:10] <lz1dev> !aprs
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Tracking via APRS: 03DK3SB-4 10(0x04_aprs), 03M0UPU-9 10(M0UPU-Chase)
[20:10] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,1273,200954,+5359.1794,+01221.8041,58,11I1424’22*7D27
[20:10] <lz1dev> !aprs ping dk3sb-4
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03DK3SB-4 was 038 hours ago
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[20:10] <lz1dev> aprs dead on 0x04?
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[20:11] <DL1SGP> $$$0x04,1074,201024,+5352828,+01221.7655,5409,10,1424,-22*A2F8
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[20:12] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,1276,201134,+5359.4903,+01221.2930,5387,11,1421,-23*9E3B
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[20:12] <astrobiologist> TX-ng WSPR on 14.097181 now, anybody hearing me?
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[20:12] <DL1SGP> ping Upu can you feed in that last decode pretty please, gotta go afk for a moment so that we have it on record $$$$0x04,1276,201134,+5359.4903,+01221.2930,5387,11,1421,-23*9E3B
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[20:13] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,1278,201234,+5359.6741,+01221.6205,5381,10,1424,-22*366A
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[20:13] <Upu> both done
[20:13] <DL1SGP> $$$$0x04,1279,201304,+5359.7645,+01221.5875,5351,10,1425,-22*58B6
[20:13] <Upu> http://habitat.habhub.org/manual_upload/ <-
[20:14] <DL1SGP> thanks Upu if nobodz told you so far by today... you rock!
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[20:14] <Upu> lol
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[20:14] <Upu> not using dl-fldigi ?
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[20:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Upu it can´t decode it
[20:14] <OZ1SKY_Brian> but multipsk can
[20:14] <Upu> interesting
[20:14] <Upu> can someone take the RTTY decoder from multipsk and stick it in dl-fldigi ?
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[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> its domx16
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[20:15] <Upu> timing slightly out ?
[20:15] <Upu> you can compensate for that
[20:15] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the signal seems wider than the bandwith dlfldigi goes for
[20:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> might be a bandwith problem
[20:16] <Upu> oh
[20:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in dlfldigi
[20:16] <Upu> odd
[20:16] <OZ1SKY_Brian> multipsk decodes fine
[20:16] <Upu> oh yes I remember multipsk
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[20:16] <Upu> the best user interface I've ever seen
[20:17] <DL1SGP> haha
[20:17] <OZ1SKY_Brian> right!
[20:17] <mclane__> very intuitive, indeed
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[20:17] <lz1dev> multipsk brings you back
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[20:17] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[20:17] <Upu> like holy f?ck whoever did this needs to be institutionalised immediately
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[20:18] <lz1dev> it's the same as installing 20 toolbars in ie 5
[20:18] <Upu> yup :)
[20:18] <Myself> Upu: have you played with spectrumlab?
[20:18] <Upu> no
[20:19] <Myself> Install it, just for the UI horror.
[20:19] <Upu> if I'm in the mood for user interfaces that make your eyes bleed should I give it a go ?
[20:19] <Myself> (caution: not before bed; may cause nightmares.)
[20:19] <lz1dev> http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab1.jpg
[20:19] <lz1dev> its good
[20:19] <Myself> It's actually amazing software, I love it, but oh god, the options boxes.
[20:19] <lz1dev> rainbowfall
[20:20] <Myself> Imagine a box full of tangled patch-cables, and a giant jackfield with which you can configure a plethora of useful receiver primitives. And some transmitter bits too. Now, try to express all that as nested dropdowns in multi-tab options dialogs.
[20:21] <DL1SGP> afk now, rig keeps monitoring the birdie telemetry will manually upload when back if there is something worth to be uploaded
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[20:21] <Lunar_Lander> one last remark to #CometLanding: Well Done!
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[20:40] <SA6BSS-Mike> OZ1SKY_Brian: you know you can widen the filter fldigi, rightclick on doomx16 bottom levt and you se it
[20:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it does not help
[20:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i tryed
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[20:55] <Laurenceb__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philae_%28spacecraft%29
[20:55] <Laurenceb__> "The harpoon propulsion system contained 0.3 grams of nitrocellulose, which was shown by Copenhagen Suborbitals in 2013 to be unreliable in a vacuum"
[20:55] <Laurenceb__> erm i wouldnt count on them for anything
[21:01] <lz1dev> 2013 was kind of late to find that it's useless
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[21:09] <Laurenceb__> to be fair, low explosives in a vacuum in tricky
[21:09] <Laurenceb__> but im sure they knew more that copenhagen suborbitals
[21:09] <DL1SGP> OZ1SKY_Brian: loosing the signal in the noise now, so if you feel like taking over :) it is all yours
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[21:10] Action: SpeedEvil wonders about the standard one
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> sodium azide
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[21:12] <la3eq> hi
[21:12] <la3eq> frequency of 0x02??????
[21:12] <DL1SGP> hi la3eq
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[21:12] <la3eq> 0x04 sorry
[21:12] <DL1SGP> 434.047,15 at abt 1000Hz
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[21:13] <DL1SGP> decode works best with MultiPSK, if you do not get fldigi to decode
[21:13] <la3eq> tnx
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[21:15] <la3eq> strong sattelitt on 434.047!
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[21:16] <LeoBodnar> Phail spacecraft?
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[21:17] <Laurenceb__> heh
[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> :D
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[21:21] <DG0MG> la3eq: 434.075 should be nominal for 0x04
[21:36] <OZ1SKY_Brian> the manual upload dont seem to be working
[21:36] <DL1SGP> OZ1SKY_Brian: make sure onlz to have 2 dollar signs at the start
[21:37] <DL1SGP> $$0x04
[21:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> i know
[21:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> it say "ok" but map dont update
[21:37] <DL1SGP> send me the string I gonna try yo upload for you
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[21:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> $$0x04,nr,213454,+5415.9409,+01219.591,5333,08,1422,-23*9D63
[21:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ups
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[21:37] <OZ1SKY_Brian> wrong line
[21:38] <DL1SGP> :)
[21:38] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok got it working now, had the wrong copy when i did the paste
[21:39] <DL1SGP> woot, great news Brian :)
[21:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> gave up on the aprs, could not get it to work
[21:40] <OZ1SKY_Brian> soundcard aprs is a pain
[21:40] <DL1SGP> it is a bit a pain yeah
[21:42] <SA6BSS-Mike> OZ1SKY_Brian: try direwolf aprs prog
[21:42] <OZ1SKY_Brian> would be nice to have a single program that could do soundcard aprs and not something that only works if you install some other stuff, before you install other stuff and after install some more stuff etc etc etc...
[21:42] <goopypanther> yeah I was thinking the same thing
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> Mike is a that a 100% standalone program?
[21:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> just fire up, you may have to change to nr1 infront of the soundcard you are using if you have multiple soundcards
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and will it upload to the aprs network
[21:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> in the direwolf.conf
[21:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> ok, it does not
[21:43] <SA6BSS-Mike> yeah it could but I have not trided that
[21:43] <mfa298> failing that get a hardware tnc, or radio with tnc built in.
[21:43] <OZ1SKY_Brian> there you go, aprs is just a mess to setup
[21:44] <SA6BSS-Mike> but it should do that standalone
[21:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok
[21:44] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ill let the multipsk run and upload now and then.
[21:45] <SA6BSS-Mike> still on 074.15 1000center?
[21:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> too bad dlfldigi can´t decode and upload automatic
[21:45] <OZ1SKY_Brian> 434.073.5 @1408Hz
[21:48] <DL1SGP> :)
[21:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> DG0MG you there?
[21:51] <DG0MG> yes
[21:51] <OZ1SKY_Brian> setting up a audio stream for you
[21:52] <DG0MG> oops, what have i to do?
[21:53] <OZ1SKY_Brian> in IE type this: mms://uplink.mine.nu:18080
[21:54] <OZ1SKY_Brian> and let me know if the audio level is okj
[21:55] <DG0MG> wow, great, last heared today morning :D
[21:55] <DL1SGP> hehe
[21:55] <OZ1SKY_Brian> audio level ok?
[21:56] <DG0MG> it could be a little bit more
[21:56] <DG0MG> listen in VLC
[21:56] <OZ1SKY_Brian> ok ill turn it up abit
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[21:59] <OZ1SKY_Brian> better?
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[22:05] <DG0MG> yes, better. I'll try to record this
[22:05] <OZ1SKY_Brian> make a audio loop and you can decode it as well
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[22:07] <Maxell> SA6BSS-Mike: whats up with direwolf?
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[22:11] <OZ1SKY_Brian> if anyone else wants to decode, feel free to use mms://uplink.mine.nu:18080
[22:14] <Maxell> SA6BSS-Mike yeah it's standalone but for aprs-is igating it needs amateur radio passcode
[22:17] <thasti> re
[22:18] <SA6BSS-Mike> Maxell: yep, got the code some time ago, where did I save it... ?? have to look
[22:19] <SA6BSS-Mike> Maxell: or is there other sw that not reqireing code to upload?
[22:19] <Maxell> SA6BSS-Mike: no, for aprs-is you /need/ the passcode
[22:19] <Maxell> I still have the generator
[22:20] <SA6BSS-Mike> I found the code generator
[22:20] <Maxell> hehe
[22:21] <Maxell> So yea
[22:21] <Maxell> have a good flight 0x03
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[22:22] <thasti> woo nice to see you are tracking 0x04 tonight :)
[22:23] <DL7AD> hi again
[22:23] <thasti> just returned from gig, read backlog and now am ready for analysing flight data
[22:23] <SA6BSS-Mike> hi, yeap, its fun, the payload giving us a hard time :)
[22:24] <thasti> SA6BSS-Mike: sorry for that, next time it will be better :p just a first shot at dominoEX
[22:24] <Maxell> dominoEX \o/
[22:24] <SA6BSS-Mike> keep sending them this way and I track it !!
[22:24] <thasti> we noticed it just when it got cold, i unterestimated the coherency that has to be between carrierfreq and baud rate
[22:25] <thasti> next payload will be better, i promise :p
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[22:27] <astrobiologist> if you relish a further challenge after aprs, I am now broadcasting WSPR on 7.040181
[22:27] <thasti> :p
[22:27] <bertrik> astrobiologist: we can try to receive that on our ham-it-up + rtl-sdr setup :)
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[22:32] <bertrik> astrobiologist: what's your call on WSPR, and where are you broadcasting from?
[22:33] <Maxell> astrobiologist: WSPR or wsjtx?
[22:33] <astrobiologist> bertrik: I am broadcasting from London. my callsign is 2E0LVR. WSPR-X, 35% duty cycle
[22:35] <astrobiologist> WSPR-2 mode
[22:35] <Maxell> bertrik: ah ok
[22:36] <Maxell> WSPR-X oh not wsjtx
[22:36] <Maxell> ok 7.040181 ?
[22:37] <Maxell> bertrik: when I'm home i shall put out a carrier somewhere near 7050 so we can calibrate
[22:37] <Maxell> so - afk
[22:37] <Maxell> :)
[22:38] <astrobiologist> Maxell: yes, 7.040181
[22:39] <DG0MG> OZ1SKY: Ha, I can decode your stream with Multi-PSK :D
[22:39] <DG0MG> great!
[22:40] <thasti> DG0MG: gonna set up double laptop multipsk -> dl-fldigi setup now
[22:40] <DG0MG> ok thasti
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[22:46] <bertrik> astrobiologist: not receiving anything yet :| Actually we (Maxell and I) are not receiving *any* WSPR right now at the hacker space receiver ...
[22:48] <Lunar_Lander> hi astrobiologist
[22:48] <astrobiologist> bertrik where are you located?
[22:48] <astrobiologist> Lunar_Lander:Hi
[22:49] <bertrik> The receiver is at the hague, netherlands
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[22:55] <astrobiologist> bertrik is it usual for wspr to go quiet like this?
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[22:59] <thasti> there we go :) OZ1SKY_Brian: i'm decoding your stream with multiPSK now and playing that back into dl-fldigi
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[23:08] <thasti> every string a green on multiPSK...
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[23:20] <OZ1SKY_Brian> thasti very good. i have to go now, but ill let the stream run so you can decode
[23:20] <thasti> OZ1SKY_Brian: thank you! i'll try to get as many packets as possible :)
[23:20] <thasti> night shift for me :) but happy to be able to continue tracking
[23:21] <OZ1SKY_Brian> your welcome, goodnight
[23:21] Nick change: OZ1SKY_Brian -> OZ1SKY_AFK
[23:21] <thasti> good night!
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[23:29] <thasti> boring .. need dl-MultiPSK .. :)
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[23:39] <qyx__> hm, how does HF allocations work? are there any free ISM bands?
[23:39] <qyx__> except 13.56MHz
[23:39] <qyx__> *do
[23:41] <thasti> there is 27mhz
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[23:42] <thasti> and 6,7x Mhz
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[23:42] <qyx__> 27MHz is CB, isn't it? is anyone free to transmit here without licence?
[23:43] <mattbrejza> ir2030 says there is 10mW on 27.12MHz
[23:44] <mattbrejza> same again on 6.something and 13.something
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[23:45] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[23:52] <lz1dev> !hysplit run 0x04
[23:52] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[23:52] <thasti> :)
[23:52] <lz1dev> why is aprs not working on 0x04?
[23:53] <thasti> lz1dev: antenna is not suitable for transmission on 144.800 .. i was the only igate on 70cm ..
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[23:53] <lz1dev> oh
[23:53] <thasti> it was just a quick test, but we will have to develop a concept for 2m antenna :-)
[23:53] <lz1dev> you were doing aprs on 434?
[23:53] <thasti> yep, both, 144.800 and 434.075
[23:54] <thasti> as i anticipated it won't be good on 2m
[23:54] <lz1dev> yeh
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[23:54] <thasti> probably LeoBodnar has an idea on good 2m/70cm antennae :)
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[23:56] <thasti> lz1dev: can you extend the flight doc please?
[23:56] <lz1dev> i can't
[23:56] <lz1dev> try #habhub
[23:56] <thasti> will ask on #habhub
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