highaltitude.log.20141110

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[00:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03_PU5PBT-11 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=_PU5PBT-11
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[00:42] <Laurenceb> B-64 seems to have spawned
[00:44] <arko> got preggers
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[00:52] <Laurenceb> ooh there are some mobile tracker improvements
[00:52] <Laurenceb> hyplit traces are labelled
[00:53] <lz1dev> they always were?
[00:54] <arko> yeah, been like that since the beginning i think
[00:57] <lz1dev> a TIL exprience for Laurenceb
[00:57] <lz1dev> that's tonight i learned :P
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[04:08] <zzqa> kf7fer: I'm getting "+DMOERROR" back from any chacacter sent to a SA818, any ideas?
[04:17] <kf7fer> you trying to configure it?
[04:17] <kf7fer> (I'm slow tonight)
[04:19] <kf7fer> Getting even an error response back is pretty good - Took me hours to get anything at all back
[04:19] <zzqa> yeah, just soldered one of each band up to my breakout board for the first time
[04:19] <zzqa> well, you figured out the backwards part thing
[04:19] <zzqa> I'm sure I would have wasted a module or two on that myself
[04:19] <kf7fer> So did you send it the command "AT+DMOCONNECT"?
[04:20] <zzqa> with zterm (3.3v logic level 9600 baud serial), yeah
[04:20] <zzqa> I get the +DMOERROR for each character
[04:20] <kf7fer> hmmm... let me check the code real quick
[04:24] <kf7fer> IIRC the line endings mattered. did you try switching to cr/lf?
[04:25] <kf7fer> I see the code sends a specific "\r\n"
[04:25] <zzqa> have you ever used a traditional terminal program to interface, or always a uC?
[04:25] <kf7fer> I've done both
[04:26] <zzqa> cool, I'll work on the line endings
[04:26] <kf7fer> I started programming with termite
[04:26] <zzqa> not sure if I can speicify with zterm or screen
[04:27] <zzqa> thanks, I'll let you know how it goes
[04:27] <kf7fer> It's been some time since I've done that - sorry I'm not more help
[04:29] <kf7fer> I'm headed upstairs now but I'll be back by 9am PST and can do some tests for you if that would help. I still have my test unit that was wired up for one of the USB/TTL Serial adapters. I can test it then if you still have issues
[04:29] <kf7fer> If it was on the breadboard - or close - I'd do it now
[04:30] <kf7fer> Probably a stupid suggestion but make sure you've enabled the SA818 - I always do
[04:32] <kf7fer> before I program I mean. You may not get a response if it's not powered but just in case...
[04:36] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03RA4NHY after 038 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=RA4NHY
[04:43] <kf7fer> In the unlikely event it helps, here is some really ugly code that I use to program the SA818: http://pastebin.com/mQiDPjsQ
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[04:44] <Darkside> i have some code on github for the DRA818s
[04:45] <Darkside> has some bugs
[04:46] <Darkside> yhe io lines need to be in the right config for it tonprogram
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[05:00] <zzqa> I'm reading +5v to VDD on pin 8, grounds all seem correct
[05:01] <zzqa> all of the audio and controll pins (except 16&17) are floating
[05:02] <zzqa> oh, perhaps PTT floating is the issue
[05:03] <zzqa> 6 PD is pulled high
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[05:25] <zzqa> I didn't have any luck on the first go of using your programing arduino sketch (I likely had the RX and TX swapped), but I did notice that the arduino serial monitor has an option to select the end of line character(s) to use
[05:25] <zzqa> and that works great when set to NL&CR
[05:26] <zzqa> so why are/where you using 12.5khz channel spacing for APRS?
[05:34] <zzqa> so thanks for the help kf7fer and Darkside
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[09:34] <Lunar_LanderU> hello
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[09:57] <amell> something seems to have changed with zeusbot irc logs. the link to the today log is no longer displayed in browser - wondering if its just me
[09:59] <edmoore> i see it
[09:59] <edmoore> http://habhub.org/zeusbot/
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[09:59] <edmoore> (raw only)
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[10:00] <amell> you have the same problem with it downloading instead of displaying in browser?
[10:00] <edmoore> that might be a broswer/mime thing
[10:00] <amell> i think the mime type for the link has changed, thus triggering download.
[10:00] <amell> snap yes.
[10:01] <amell> might be related to the outage yesterday?
[10:02] <edmoore> ask captain upu
[10:05] <db_g6gzh> 19:40 < Upu> servers never actually restarted we just upgraded the firewall and switches
[10:05] <amell> oh. strange
[10:05] <db_g6gzh> on the other hand, I'm seeing the same with all the raw logs
[10:05] <amell> anyway, not long now until Orion EFT1 mission - looking forward to that.
[10:06] <amell> it seems to be an apache config issue with the mimetypes. needs to be set to text.
[10:06] <db_g6gzh> the file names end with the date so not much of a mime clue
[10:07] <UpuWork> "no"
[10:07] <UpuWork> (it runs nginx so its not an apache issue)
[10:07] <db_g6gzh> 8-)
[10:08] <amell> nginx config issue then...
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[10:10] <mikestir> the new firewall isn't a cisco pix is it?
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[10:10] <UpuWork> no
[10:10] <UpuWork> its not a new one just had a firmware upgrade
[10:10] <daveake> It's happened before
[10:10] <mikestir> cos they are a pita for changing stuff on the sly as it goes by
[10:11] <edmoore> i use pf
[10:11] <edmoore> pf is nice
[10:11] <edmoore> everybody loves pf
[10:11] <edmoore> you get a beard and a paunch just from thinking about pf
[10:11] <edmoore> pf cures cancer but not letting you interact with any prions in the first place
[10:12] <amell> the OSX firewall is pf :)
[10:12] <edmoore> is it?
[10:12] <amell> yup.
[10:13] <edmoore> that's brilliant, yet i never knew
[10:13] <edmoore> i just have it installed on a bsd box that is our nat at work
[10:13] <edmoore> so it is
[10:13] <edmoore> splendid!
[10:13] <amell> pf replaced ipfw in OSX Lion
[10:15] <edmoore> totally passed me by
[10:15] <edmoore> well, that's splendid news
[10:15] <edmoore> pf is great
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[10:17] <UpuWork> I'll see if someone can look at that amell
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[10:17] <amell> could potentially be firewall related as mikestir intimated.
[10:18] <UpuWork> unlikely not the hardware one anyway
[10:19] <mikestir> it didn't seem to have a content-type header at all when I tried with curl
[10:19] <amell> mikestir: thats strange. firewall might be filtering - thinking its a match for some exploit.
[10:20] <mikestir> I would have thought it fairly unlikely that a firewall would be stripping those off, but then I never expected the cisco at my old place of work to silently disable STARTTLS on SMTP
[10:21] <amell> Ive certainly seen this sort of thing happening with checkpoint firewalls s/content inspection/content interference
[10:21] <mikestir> must be that dreaded text/plain exploit
[10:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Sundays file displays normally its only ondays that is giving the problem ?
[10:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> Mondays
[10:28] <amell> it did the same yesterday and today with the current day.
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[10:30] <db_g6gzh> it's the same for all the raw files
[10:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> All the fils but todays open and display for me in the browser ?
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[10:31] <db_g6gzh> today is raw only, others are formatted but with a raw option which also downloads rather than displays
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[10:33] <db_g6gzh> except that, now I've tried more, some of the older ones work - strange!
[10:34] <db_g6gzh> in fact it's just today and the raw from yesterday which don't work as expected
[10:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> Are yes I see what you mean the previous days link is an HTML, but the raw is just the date as the suffix
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[10:37] <db_g6gzh> yeah, still strange that older ones work though
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[11:01] <SpeedEvil> Rosetta/Philae - release tomorrow at 9:35, and landing several hours later
[11:03] <UpuWork> thought it was Wednesday did they move it ?
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[11:10] <fsphil> still wednesday
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[11:55] <mattbrejza> !ping b-64
[11:55] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Last contact with 03B-64 was 036 hours ago
[11:55] <mattbrejza> hmm dead battery
[12:00] <cm13g09> mattbrejza: awww....
[12:00] <cm13g09> so, it's dying?
[12:00] <mattbrejza> (discharged not dead)
[12:00] <cm13g09> ah right
[12:01] <cm13g09> needs more sunlight?
[12:02] <mattbrejza> its not too far off sunrise
[12:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> Looks like thin high cloud limiting the sunshine looking back over the month for VSolar http://aprs.fi/telemetry/a/M0XER-4?range=month
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[12:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> either that of the solar cells are dying ?
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[12:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> but its dipped in the past it looks like
[12:05] <craag> Might be correlated with how far north it is.
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[12:05] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wondered that but the last couple of weeks its been more consistently South
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> It's a pity - I was hoping it'd cross cells
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> I should really stop being pointless, and actually do an ensemble hysplit to find out how likely it is for it to cross
[12:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> very unlikely!
[12:07] <SpeedEvil> sure
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[12:21] <Laurenceb_> hopefully it will wake up very shortly
[12:21] <Laurenceb_> i was looking at the long duration CNES floaters
[12:21] <Laurenceb_> they use vertical panels
[12:22] <qyx_> i was trying to compute if vertical panels can be more suitable for a hab
[12:23] <qyx_> i mean 4 panels arranged vertically around a cube
[12:23] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[12:23] <Laurenceb_> its best if you want to fly in winter
[12:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> How about a circular band around ?
[12:23] <Laurenceb_> shrug
[12:23] <Geoff-G8DHE> maybe then a single cell could do it
[12:23] <qyx_> should be nearly the same
[12:24] <qyx_> cheap china cells are not bendable
[12:24] <mattbrejza> you cant put them in parallel though, the charging circuit would need to be more complex
[12:24] <Laurenceb_> looks like LOON160 might still be up :-/
[12:24] <mattbrejza> (which might just be 4 diodes)
[12:24] <Laurenceb_> yeah
[12:24] <qyx_> it seems to me that you dont even need diodes if you connect them in parallel
[12:24] <Laurenceb_> maybe just a single panel
[12:25] <qyx_> if they were in series they would need parallel diodes
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> heh
[12:25] <Laurenceb_> depends how often the balloon rotates
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> 'hyts_std 0000000000403359 Unknown Unknown Unknown
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> libc.so.6 00000030BBE1ED5D Unknown Unknown Unknown
[12:25] <SpeedEvil> I'm guessing that's not a good output from hysplit
[12:25] <qyx_> unradiated panel have greater resistance
[12:26] <qyx_> so it will waste power if conencted in series
[12:26] <qyx_> but should be no problem in parallel
[12:26] <mattbrejza> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Solar_cell_equivalent_circuit.svg/275px-Solar_cell_equivalent_circuit.svg.png
[12:26] <SpeedEvil> It's a diode in paralle with a current source
[12:26] <Laurenceb_> http://stratocat.com.ar/fichas-e/2005/MCM-20051013b.htm
[12:27] <Laurenceb_> all the CNES stuff seems to be similar to that payload box
[12:27] <Laurenceb_> three vertical panels
[12:29] <Laurenceb_> but i lost the link...
[12:29] <SpeedEvil> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/123938_trj001.gif - I don't get what the horizontal lines are
[12:29] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100w-319v-dc-rollup-Flexible-solar-panel-100-flexible-folie-For-kit-/351202771291?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item51c551015b
[12:30] <Geoff-G8DHE> 3.2Kg however :-)
[12:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> horizontal lines are wrap around aren't they ?
[12:32] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[12:32] <craag> another mapping lib with a dateline bug :P
[12:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah better http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solopower-1-25-to-1-5-Watt-Lightweight-Super-Flexible-CIGS-Solar-Cell-Lot-of-10-/191140471629?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c80dc234d but there raw cells
[12:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> 9 grams each
[12:42] <Geoff-G8DHE> Wonder how difficult to encapsulate it it would be ?
[12:48] <Laurenceb_> this is a solved problem
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[12:48] <Laurenceb_> Leo is using bare mono or poly silicon cells
[12:49] <Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/YhfOgTf
[12:49] <Laurenceb_> pro design skillz
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[12:55] <amell> 4pm GMT weds earth time.
[12:55] <amell> oh i seem to have disconnected in the interim
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[13:03] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-64 after 037 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=B-64
[13:03] <amell> yahoo!
[13:04] <amell> iowa. hmm
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[13:05] <LeoBodnar> wakey wakey
[13:06] <Laurenceb_> JAXa pwned
[13:06] <LeoBodnar> wut?! [12:49] <Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/YhfOgTf
[13:06] <LeoBodnar> lol
[13:07] <Laurenceb_> some troll posted it
[13:07] <Laurenceb_> LeoBodnar: I think LOON160 might still be airborne
[13:09] <LeoBodnar> the 120 days one?
[13:09] <Laurenceb_> no
[13:09] <UpuWork> is its battery shot ?
[13:09] <Laurenceb_> not enough sunlight
[13:12] <Laurenceb_> Iowa is a giant grid
[13:12] <Laurenceb_> how does anyone know where they are ?!
[13:13] <craag> they don't, or else they'd find the way out
[13:13] <Laurenceb_> lol
[13:15] <Laurenceb_> must be the most boring place to go for a drive ever
[13:19] <craag> florida highways aren't much fun either. they've got identical thick trees lining the road for several hours at a time
[13:20] <UpuWork> Yeah 5 hours driving down the Florida Turnpike was dull
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[13:24] <craag> was a little more exciting on the return with a hurricane at our backs though ;)
[13:26] <UpuWork> yeah
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[13:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 0309155214336_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=09155214336_chase
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[14:38] <Laurenceb_> heh John Deere HQ
[14:38] <Laurenceb_> never saw that coming
[14:42] <mattbrejza> http://cursors.io/
[14:43] <Laurenceb_> http://kiss.caltech.edu/study/airship/AlinaKiessling_AAS_Poster_Final.pdf
[14:43] <Laurenceb_> lolz
[14:43] <Laurenceb_> i doubt it would look like that
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[16:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03BoSS - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=BoSS
[16:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 030x04 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=0x04
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[16:33] <mikestir> .
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[17:05] <Lunar_Lander> evening
[17:06] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[17:06] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
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[17:15] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[17:15] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
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[17:32] <mattbrejza> !ping b-64
[17:32] <SpacenearUS> 03mattbrejza: Last contact with 03B-64 was 039 minutes ago
[17:33] <lz1dev> !aprs ping m0xer-4
[17:33] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03M0XER-4 was 03a few seconds ago
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[17:38] <lz1dev> that would explain it :)
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[18:42] <SA6BSS> !hysplit B-64
[18:42] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS: HYSPLIT for 03B-64 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141110-16_130819_B64.gif
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[18:46] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03B-64 was 03a few seconds ago
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[20:18] <fox123> hallo all, please how frequency and mode 0x04
[20:19] <Upu> !flights
[20:19] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Current flights: 03UKRHAB-2 10(e430), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe)
[20:19] <Upu> not a current fligth I think fox123
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[20:22] <fox123> TNX 73
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[20:45] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03UBSEDS3 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=UBSEDS3
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[20:55] <richardeoin> !dial UBSEDS3
[20:55] <SpacenearUS> 03richardeoin: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[20:56] <craag> Only works for valid flights it seems.
[20:56] <craag> good evening btw!
[20:56] <richardeoin> SpacenearUS: It's not an active flight ;-)
[20:56] <richardeoin> Hey craag
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[21:19] <LeoBodnar> yay Jim 2014-11-10 20:57:51 UTC: M0XER-4>APRS64,WIDE2-1,qAR,N2NXZ:!/8?QS:)9DO ^.eg/A=041892|),OM'g=u!*|
[21:19] <Upu> haha
[21:19] <Upu> nice
[21:20] <Myself> Aw crap! It went right over me and I managed to not be paying attention.
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[21:24] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PS - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PS
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[21:27] <LeoBodnar> when in Rome, do as Romans do http://leobodnar.com/balloons/files/B-64-lined-up.png
[21:27] <LeoBodnar> B-64 blends with local traffic
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[21:28] <craag> haha
[21:29] <lz1dev> !aprs info m0xer-4
[21:29] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: 03M0XER-4 is near 03Simcoe County, ON, Canada 10(44.00501,-79.87331) - 12http://aprs.fi/M0XER-4
[21:29] <lz1dev> ca-na-da!
[21:29] <Myself> Cruising down the ornageville line..
[21:30] <Myself> I just popped into the #hacklabTO channel to let the local nerd-nest know it's right on top of them :)
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[22:04] <Lunar_Lander> xD
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[22:24] <mightymik> 309 kph in b-64?
[22:25] <mattbrejza> lz1dev: feature request:
[22:25] <mattbrejza> !laps b-64
[22:26] <mattbrejza> :P
[22:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> on its 8th
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[22:26] <mightymik> B-64 needs it's own app
[22:26] <Geoff-G8DHE> Each one here http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/B-64_20140712/index.php?ind=0
[22:26] <mattbrejza> battery isnt having a great time atm
[22:26] <mattbrejza> only just got dark and were on 3.3
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[22:27] <mightymik> that whole things's been at -40+ temps for 120 days. pretty rough
[22:28] <Geoff-G8DHE> and the solar hasn't got over0.6v several days running
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