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[02:27] <zero> any body there?
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[02:27] <Guest80202> anybody there?
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[04:34] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EDUPIC4 after 038 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=EDUPIC4
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[07:08] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03VORTEX1 after 032 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VORTEX1
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[07:09] <mfa298> Guest80202: there's probably a few people around now
[07:11] <lz1dev> 111/fq 8
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[07:51] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-64 after 03a day silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=B-64
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[07:58] <UpuWork> ping arko
[07:58] <UpuWork> incoming
[07:58] <UpuWork> maybe not
[07:58] <UpuWork> its teasing you
[07:59] <fsphil> yea it's heading more east than it looks
[08:00] <fsphil> Oregon
[08:00] <fsphil> maybe arko's up for a drive :) looks like it wouldn't take more than, say 15 hours
[08:01] <fsphil> google says 691 miles, almost 11 hours
[08:01] <fsphil> 1 day on public transport. sheesh, that's worse than ours
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[08:25] <LeoBodnar> oh, B is stateside
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[08:27] <Lunar_LanderU> hello
[08:31] <LeoBodnar> 95 days
[08:33] <M0JCU> Vortex1 launch in 12 minutes
[08:34] <UpuWork> let me tidy that map up
[08:36] <UpuWork> cleared
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[08:41] <M0JCU> Thanks UpuWork
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[08:42] <UpuWork> I cleared vortex-1 by accident so you will need to upload something
[08:42] <UpuWork> sorry
[08:45] <M0JCU> uploaded a couple of strings but they're not appearing
[08:46] <UpuWork> not clear strings
[08:46] <UpuWork> Exception in UKHAS main parse: ValueError: Invalid CRC16-CCITT checksum.
[08:46] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VORTEX1 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VORTEX1
[08:46] <UpuWork> there
[08:48] <M0JCU> Gotcha. Antenna was on the ground outside the bulding where I have the network connection
[08:49] <M0JCU> Fill starting. about 10 ISH minutes to go
[08:49] <fsphil> what sort of balloon?
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[08:58] <gonzo_> ohh a launch. I may catch this one. I miss a lot, as the mail digest often comes in after the event
[09:00] <M0JCU> Balloon in the air
[09:01] <Steve_G0TDJ> Bon Flight :-)
[09:03] <M0JCU> Lost signal here. Starting the other tracking station
[09:05] <gonzo_> ah, not a uk launch. OK. May be a bbit far
[09:05] <Steve_G0TDJ> Yeah, sadly no chance of tracking here.
[09:08] <gonzo_> I'll shut down and out the funcube station back on line
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[09:10] <Herman-PB0AHX> !flights
[09:10] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Current flights: 03Vortex SSHAPE 1 10(668e), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe), 03B-66 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(705b)
[09:10] <spe> Change name of channel to #highlatitude :)
[09:11] <Herman-PB0AHX> !payload VORTEX1
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Payload 03Vortex 10(668e) - 03Telemetry - 03434.4 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/450Hz ASCII-7 none 2
[09:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Callsigns: 03VORTEX1, 03VORTEX2, 03VORTEX3
[09:12] <UpuWork> see what you did there spe
[09:13] <UpuWork> one way to win the artic challenge
[09:13] <UpuWork> launch in the arctic circule
[09:13] <UpuWork> circle
[09:15] <gonzo_> no point, leo wins all chalanges by defualt
[09:15] <gonzo_> (well correctly spelt ones)
[09:16] <Herman-PB0AHX> gm all
[09:17] <fsphil> hasn't won the "land in upu's garden" challange... yet
[09:17] <Herman-PB0AHX> Temperature, External: -293.0 °C brbrbrbrbr
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[09:19] <fsphil> not tracking this one then.. :)
[09:22] <UpuWork> given my garden is about 1m x 1m that would be a fairly epic bit of luck
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[09:27] <gonzo_> ant tree's/pylons?
[09:27] <gonzo_> any
[09:28] <fsphil> hehe
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[09:31] <gonzo_> at -293 deg, it should eb a black hole by now, so poss you garden will land in IT
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[09:41] <Maxell> 434.4 correct?
[09:43] <M0JCU> Dial is currently 434.391
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[09:44] <M0JCU> OH6UW should have it before long
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[09:54] <M0JCU> On its way down
[09:55] <fsphil> that was brief
[09:56] <gonzo_> the cold air does that to lots of things
[09:56] <M0JCU> Only a test flight. The real thing will go to twice the altitude with three times as many payloads
[09:56] <M0JCU> It isn't a latex balloon
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[09:58] <fsphil> ah gotcha
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[09:59] <MaXimaN> B-64 now off the coast of California
[09:59] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Yupmwhere is Arko when he's needed ;-)
[09:59] <MaXimaN> Sorry, Oregon
[10:01] <fsphil> still too far from LA sadly
[10:02] <fsphil> the belt of wind it lives in doesn't seem to go that far south
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[10:04] <MaXimaN> It's not exactly going to be short of APRS coverage though
[10:06] <edmoore> not sure about portland
[10:07] <edmoore> 'I use Contestia 256 european-flavour... you've probably never heard of it'
[10:09] <MaXimaN> Hmmmm
[10:09] <MaXimaN> Couple of big bumps in battery voltage in the past couple of hours
[10:09] <MaXimaN> Looks like excessive current drain
[10:09] <MaXimaN> "big"
[10:10] <Geoff-G8DHE-Lap> Don't see any backlog coming in, unless its covering parts already seen ? Does Leo run his back log program all the time ?
[10:10] <MaXimaN> 3.2 > 2.9
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[10:32] <MaXimaN> And again
[10:32] <MaXimaN> Interesting
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[11:26] <Laurenceb> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1278932459/employee-salary-calculator
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[11:37] <Laurenceb> wow B-64 forecast is fast
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[11:57] <UpuWork> wtf seriously $2million ?
[11:58] <UpuWork> Don't they have SagePay in Canadia
[11:59] <mattbrejza> i thought kickstarter vetted projects to some extent?
[11:59] <mattbrejza> (seems not though)
[12:01] <nats`> I think it's a joke again
[12:01] <nats`> like the potatoes salad
[12:01] <nats`> by Glory be to God
[12:01] <mattbrejza> yea, i would have thought kickstarter wouldbt allow stuff like this though
[12:02] <UpuWork> Southpark episode..
[12:02] <nats`> mattbrejza they should block them following policie
[12:02] <nats`> but it seems that people reading kickstarter proect are blind
[12:02] <nats`> or stupid
[12:03] <nats`> maybe the two
[12:03] <mattbrejza> UpuWork: dont they only make money when they are sucessfully funded?
[12:03] <UpuWork> I have no idea but its almost becoming a parody of itself now
[12:03] <mattbrejza> lol
[12:04] <UpuWork> someone was trying to fund a deathstar until they pulled it
[12:04] <mfa298> maybe someone should setup a kickstarter project to get funding to write a new kickstarter system
[12:05] <UpuWork> Kickstarter Death Star: Open-Source Moon Laser Raises £57,000 Of £542 Quadrillion Goal
[12:05] <UpuWork> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/461687407/kickstarter-open-source-death-star
[12:05] <nats`> mfa298 or should launch a kickstarter to pay the filtering guy at kickstarter
[12:05] <UpuWork> Goal
[12:05] <UpuWork> £20,000,000 for more detailed plans and enough chicken wire to protect reactor exhaust ports.
[12:05] <UpuWork> haha
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[12:30] <Laurenceb> will B-64 battery last until dawn...
[12:30] <Laurenceb> place your bets now
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[12:41] <gonzo_> are death star's covered under ITAR?
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[12:54] <staylo> Kickstarter jokes seem much less funny after Solar Roadways.
[12:56] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: I'm guessing no
[12:56] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:56] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb: however - observing the wakeup behaviour will be interesting
[12:57] <Laurenceb> yeah
[12:58] <SpeedEvil> I guess it's about an hour till dawn
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[13:33] <DaleHowells> Heya, can I get a hand regarding the RTL2832U chipset receivers?
[13:33] <DaleHowells> Anyone used the cheap chinese ones on ebay before?
[13:34] <DaleHowells> such as http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FM-DAB-USB-DVB-T-RTL2832U-R820T-w-MCX-antenna-uk-shipping-/321293431895?pt=UK_Computing_Video_Capture_TV_Tuner_Cards&hash=item4ace94b457
[13:35] <craag> Yep
[13:35] <craag> They're nice little receivers, not sensitive enough for long-range reception
[13:35] <craag> But great for testing/backup
[13:36] <DaleHowells> yeah just after one for bench testing :)
[13:36] <craag> I'd suggest grabbing one with a nicer socket on it though
[13:36] <DaleHowells> ah great, wasn't sure if there was a specific model you needed to get it working, or just the chipset
[13:36] <craag> MCX can be pricey to get adaptors for
[13:36] <craag> rtl2832 / r820t is the preferred chipset these days
[13:37] <DaleHowells> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DVB-T-DAB-FM-Radio-Realtek-RTL2832U-R820T-software-defined-SDR-HDTV-Top-/291185722465?pt=UK_Computing_Video_Capture_TV_Tuner_Cards&hash=item43cc058461
[13:37] <DaleHowells> coxial a little better connector?
[13:37] <craag> That's better, you can easily get adaptors for it
[13:37] <craag> or even unsolder it and add a bnc :)
[13:37] <craag> (I've done that on one of mine)
[13:37] <DaleHowells> ah great thanks :)
[13:38] <craag> cosycave has some in the UK I think btw
[13:38] <DaleHowells> I know they aren't great for flight, but with a decent YAGI what would you be looking at for distance LOS?
[13:38] <craag> more expensive, but less shipping time
[13:38] <DaleHowells> ah great yeah, was using as an example :)
[13:38] <craag> with a decent yagi they'll do nearly any LOS
[13:39] <craag> when chasing though, you'll probably be using an oni
[13:39] <craag> *omni
[13:39] <DaleHowells> ah great, but a proper receiver a little better then? Found the Uni has some radio equipment i'd be able to use
[13:40] <craag> Yeah. If they've got a handheld scanner that does SSB at 434MHz then that's perfect
[13:41] <DaleHowells> Ah great
[13:41] <DaleHowells> with the DAB tuners, would they benefit at all with a pre RF amp in line with antenna?
[13:41] <craag> very much yes
[13:42] <craag> anthony at hab.supplies sells filtered preamps specifically for using them with hab
[13:42] <craag> some cheaper handheld scanners can also also benefit from them
[13:43] <DaleHowells> ah great
[13:43] <gonzo_> (the funcube dongle pro+ is a deiiferent beast though. Not to be confused with the cheap RTL ones. Has preamp/filter built in)
[13:44] <DaleHowells> ah ok awesome i'll have a look into it, its like £120 which might be out of my reach, though can see if the uni could benefit from it otherwise, in which case they might dish out
[13:44] <craag> If you can get the fcd pro plus, it's a lovely little device.
[13:44] <DaleHowells> Around £100 budget from the uni, though I'll most likely put in some cash in personally
[13:44] <craag> I've stopped using almost any other receiver since I got mine :)
[13:45] <DaleHowells> ah ok
[13:45] <DaleHowells> i'll have a look
[13:46] <craag> might be worth getting an rtlsdr to play with first though :)
[13:46] <craag> before blowing all your budget....
[13:46] <gonzo_> fcd p+ (make sure it is the Pro+ version) are about £15 new
[13:46] <gonzo_> 150
[13:46] <DaleHowells> yeah my plan
[13:47] <DaleHowells> it may be the equipment the uni already has will be good enough
[13:47] <gonzo_> there were some original FCD pro versions doing the rounds, after the + came out. Better than the RTL dongles, but they still need the filtered habamp
[13:48] <gonzo_> any receive that will cover 434MHz and has SSB mode would work
[13:49] <DaleHowells> appreciate the help cheers
[13:51] <UpuWork> I have a Pro+ for sale if anyone wants it
[13:51] <UpuWork> brand new hardly used
[13:51] <UpuWork> £90 delivered
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[13:57] <gonzo_> supprised no takers
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[13:58] <gonzo_> DaleHowells, that's a good offer
[13:59] <DaleHowells> cheers, I'll hold off for the time being thanks :)
[14:00] <mfa298> get an mcx and make an adapter by chopping the cable in half to make something
[14:00] <mfa298> (reading back a bit)
[14:02] <myself> btw there's #rtlsdr on this net, dunno if it's been mentioned
[14:04] <DaleHowells> on this net?
[14:04] <UpuWork> there are other IRC networks ?
[14:07] <myself> haha, I'm connected to 2 right now, down from 5 a few years ago.
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[14:09] <DaleHowells> ah right
[14:09] <DaleHowells> lol
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[14:18] <Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/XhJe8tF.png
[14:18] <Laurenceb> death shield
[14:18] <myself> hahha
[14:18] <myself> raspberry fry
[14:19] <myself> I like the cut in the PCB for mains voltage isolation. Great.
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[14:21] <daveake> That's so you can use* the camera
[14:21] <daveake> *briefly
[14:28] <UpuWork> yeah those FCD+'s didn't last long :)
[14:29] <gonzo_> you mean the first version?
[14:30] <UpuWork> no +'s
[14:30] <gonzo_> how do you mean, didn't last long?
[14:31] <UpuWork> Had offers within 5 mins to the post on the mailing list
[14:31] <gonzo_> ah you had more than one. Not seen the mail
[14:32] <UpuWork> yeah I had a faulty one and couldn't get it fixed so I bought another
[14:32] <UpuWork> about 6 months later I posted it back to Howard who sent me a brand new one
[14:32] <UpuWork> so I ended up with 2
[14:33] <gonzo_> mine is back doing it's named job
[14:33] <gonzo_> though I should try the mk1 , as that will probably do as good a job
[14:34] <UpuWork> I use the mk1 with a habamp for balloon tracking
[14:34] <gonzo_> don't need the stability or the bandwidth, and I have an upstream lna
[14:35] <gonzo_> I've onbly used the mk1 on the 63mhz IF of the 817. And bloody good it was too
[14:35] <UpuWork> yeah that might be my next purchase
[14:35] <gonzo_> the P+ should be better
[14:35] <gonzo_> cracking little radio
[14:37] <UpuWork> Those SSB SP-7000's look nice
[14:38] <edmoore> every loop in this avr code (not mine) they modulo the pointer with 128 to see if they need to wrap back
[14:38] <edmoore> bu8t they do it as pow(2,7)
[14:38] <edmoore> i guess they trust in the compiler to bring sanity
[14:38] <edmoore> but still, that's just lazy
[14:38] <edmoore> or mad
[14:39] <gonzo_> bloody expensive upu. If you don't need the TX switching, I recon your habamp is going to be equally good performance
[14:39] <edmoore> and then cast it to an int of course
[14:39] <edmoore> huh?
[14:39] <UpuWork> yeah I just noticed the price
[14:39] <UpuWork> sod that
[14:40] <UpuWork> I'll just water proof a habamp :)
[14:40] <UpuWork> and make an injector
[14:40] <gonzo_> if you put relays in and powered then off the coax, you could inject power on rx only
[14:41] <craag> On the websdr we've found the habamps to be just a little down on the PGA-103, and a lot more stable
[14:41] <UpuWork> I don't transmit anyway
[14:41] <gonzo_> that's how the icom mast head preamos woirk
[14:41] <UpuWork> seriously considering selling my FT-817
[14:41] <UpuWork> don't use it any more
[14:41] <UpuWork> useless for tracking as the battery lasts exactly 5.7 minutes
[14:42] <gonzo_> I don't tX either, but as a general RX it's still a nice iunit
[14:42] <gonzo_> mine was similar. Duff batt from new
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[14:42] <gonzo_> got a 3rd oparty replacenment and it's better
[14:43] <gonzo_> see if you get another clamour on the mainilg list then!
[14:43] <UpuWork> well I was going to look at replacing with with something fancy like a Lipo
[14:43] <UpuWork> W4RT does some nice kits
[14:44] <UpuWork> but one day Yaesu will decide to spend some money and make a new version
[14:44] <gonzo_> I brought a LiFe pack, for external use. Works well. And I can plug a 5V reg in to charge the phone. That is super useful when out in the field (festivalos/camping)
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[15:11] <arko> http://earth.nullschool.net/#2014/10/17/1500Z/wind/isobaric/1000hPa/orthographic=-33.54,49.25,760
[15:11] <arko> wow.....
[15:11] <myself> Oh that's beautiful.
[15:12] <arko> very
[15:12] <arko> dont see huge cyclones like that very often
[15:12] <mattbrejza> that looks like a twice weekly occurance around here :P
[15:13] <mattbrejza> good thing i ignored the forecast about this afternoons rain, silly bbc weather, always exaggerating rain
[15:14] <arko> haha
[15:14] <arko> i didnt know that
[15:14] <arko> neat
[15:14] <fsphil> about to get a bit windy here though
[15:15] <arko> omg
[15:15] <arko> today
[15:15] <arko> we have clouds
[15:15] <arko> and 20% of rain
[15:15] <fsphil> WOT?
[15:15] <arko> got to wear a sweater today
[15:15] <arko> im so happy
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[15:15] <fsphil> should I bring a coat when I'm over?
[15:16] <arko> unlikely
[15:16] <arko> May is usually a clear sky month
[15:16] <edmoore> when are you over fsphil ?
[15:16] <fsphil> end of may I think
[15:17] <fsphil> not booked yet
[15:17] <arko> hope things can work out, the demo party should be a lot of fun
[15:17] <edmoore> it'll be warm i'm sure
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[15:17] <edmoore> i had to put the roof up of my convertible mustang because of sunburn
[15:17] <edmoore> in feb
[15:17] <fsphil> hah
[15:17] <edmoore> when i was driving along there
[15:18] <fsphil> I laugh at people here who have convertibles
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[15:18] <fsphil> it makes perfect sense over there
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[15:18] <arko> haha
[15:18] <fsphil> but you only get about 5 days in a year to enjoy one here
[15:19] <arko> edmoore: you should join fsphil in coming over here :P
[15:19] <myself> A car rental company near here had their marquee:
[15:19] <myself> "GO TOPLESS THIS SUMMER
[15:19] <myself> rent a convertible"
[15:19] <edmoore> i'm in india for 3 weeks in feb/march
[15:19] <arko> woah cool!
[15:19] <arko> err
[15:19] <edmoore> so might not be financially recovered
[15:19] <arko> woah hot and sticky!
[15:20] <arko> but very cool, i've always wanted to visit
[15:20] <arko> pretty outside the city from what ive heard
[15:20] <arko> man i gotta get a place where i can host people
[15:20] <arko> hopefully by june
[15:22] <edmoore> having a house is good
[15:22] <edmoore> i recommend it
[15:23] <arko> gf and i have agreed to have a tesla coil on the roof when we get one
[15:23] <craag> haha
[15:23] <arko> zap the neighbors
[15:23] <arko> scare pedestrians
[15:23] <arko> i want dean kamens house
[15:23] <mattbrejza> theft protection
[15:24] <arko> haha
[15:25] <edmoore> cat protection certainly
[15:25] <edmoore> i need to make an ultrasoundamajigga for my roof
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[15:26] <edmoore> i have a portion of flat roof outside the bathroom that has become a cat arguement ground
[15:26] <arko> http://www.team228.org/index/history/2002/kickoff.htm
[15:26] <arko> living room with a steam engine in it
[15:26] <arko> APPROVED
[15:27] <arko> edmoore: hahaha
[15:27] <arko> that actually sucks
[15:27] <fsphil> roof outside my back door has the opposite problem
[15:27] <fsphil> it's become a cat mating area
[15:27] <arko> its a meeting ground for peace treaties?
[15:27] <arko> oh
[15:27] <edmoore> http://www.team228.org/images/archives/2002/kickoff/98.jpg
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[15:27] <fsphil> mating, not meeting :)
[15:27] <edmoore> DO NOT APPROVE
[15:27] <arko> thats worse fsphil
[15:28] <arko> edmoore: the segway?
[15:28] <arko> i thought it was neat until i remembered that i have working legs
[15:28] <edmoore> double denim, segaway, small serif font on the banners
[15:28] <edmoore> so much wrong
[15:28] <arko> lol
[15:28] <arko> could be worse
[15:28] <arko> comic sans
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[15:29] <fsphil> he's got the look of someone who's about to fire someone in marketing
[15:30] <arko> he's a really cool guy, super nice
[15:30] <arko> then again most engineers dont have a sense of fashon (including myself)
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[15:35] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03La2rt_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=La2rt_chase
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[16:08] <WillTablet> UpuWork: did you get my PM from a few days ago
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[17:05] <kf7fer> Whoo hoo! I just got M0XER-4 direct!
[17:05] <arko> nice!
[17:06] <arko> i missed B-64 by 3 days :(
[17:06] <arko> was just in seattle
[17:06] <arko> must be a good feeling rx
[17:06] <arko> rx'ing a B direct
[17:06] <kf7fer> ugh! And it's so cool... I thought I was too late. It's pretty far from me (I'm in Salem)
[17:06] <arko> nice!
[17:07] <arko> capital of OR
[17:07] <arko> pretty place
[17:07] <kf7fer> Nice and green
[17:07] <kf7fer> And I'm using a Slim Jim stuck to the side of the house no less
[17:08] <arko> its amazing how east it is to rx something so far away with such little power
[17:09] <arko> math works out, but intuitively its just weird
[17:09] <kf7fer> no doubt.
[17:12] <kf7fer> So 3 packets now from what... nearly 300km?
[17:12] <kf7fer> oh yes... using a Yaesu VX3R as my receiver
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[17:22] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[17:22] <kf7fer> hey Lunar
[17:22] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[17:22] <Lunar_Lander> I would like to show you all an experiment I did today
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[17:23] <Lunar_Lander> I had an NTX2B on a breadboard along with a DS18B20 on a short lead next to it, and ran the code from the Wiki, along with the temperature library from Miles burton to get a temperature readout
[17:23] <Lunar_Lander> I noted the number below the waterfall for almost each telemetry line with the temperature
[17:24] <Lunar_Lander> http://s.gullipics.com/image/5/8/j/5yv6dc-kgycee-sgbu/20141015NTX2BColdTest.jpeg
[17:24] <Lunar_Lander> this is the result
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[17:32] <kf7fer> Guess there aren't many NTX2B users on now? Looks like it works pretty well below the datasheet's -20 C
[17:32] <kf7fer> for a bit anyways :-)
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> yeah :)
[17:32] <Lunar_Lander> that was the first test
[17:32] <Upu> the TCXO just bottoms out
[17:32] <Upu> but people are still using them
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[17:33] <Upu> stable and well proven
[17:33] <kf7fer> So not having used this hardware... how far off can the center frequency be before the signal can't be decoded?
[17:34] <Upu> hmm >
[17:34] <Upu> on the NTX2B ?
[17:34] <kf7fer> yes
[17:34] <Lunar_Lander> I saw that at 425 Hz shift that I had, when the frequency hit the left end of the waterfall, it was 215 Hz
[17:34] <Upu> it can do +/- 3000hz
[17:37] <Lunar_Lander> but I must say I am impressed
[17:37] <Lunar_Lander> the old NTX2 drifts much more if I recall correctly
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[17:38] <Upu> the NTX2B doesn't really drift
[17:38] <myself> unless you attach it to a balloon
[17:39] <myself> then it drifts wherever the wind blows it!
[17:39] <myself> *rimshot*
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[17:47] <Lunar_Lander> :D
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[17:49] <Lunar_Lander> so the NTX2B is awesome
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[17:52] <Upu> its a great module and if you're not trying to do anything fancy then there is no reason not to use it
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[18:45] <LeoBodnar> you can even use it on a balloon
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[18:53] <Lunar_LanderA> the NTX2B=
[18:53] <Lunar_LanderA> ?
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[18:53] <Lunar_LanderA> well that is why Upu sells it :)
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[18:54] <fsphil> someone should try this!
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[19:01] <MaXimaN> B-64 now approaching Moscow...
[19:01] <MaXimaN> (Washington State) :)
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[19:06] <myself> Heh. There's a moscow, michigan too.
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[19:07] Nick change: Steffann -> Steffanx
[19:08] <Lunar_LanderA> and Roswell, Alabama :P
[19:19] <bertrik> there is a village called "America" in the netherlands
[19:20] <SpeedEvil> And the netherlands have Uranus.
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[19:24] <myself> I can drive from Wyoming (michigan) to Alaska (michigan) in about 6 minutes :P
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[19:35] <Laurenceb_> B-64 over central Moscow
[19:37] <Upu> someone already cracked that one :)
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[19:54] <MaXimaN> Laurenceb: <nelson> Ah-ha! </nelson>
[19:55] <MaXimaN> B-64 motoring along at 104kph
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[20:18] <DL7AD_mobile> Evening
[20:19] <Upu> Evening Sven
[20:19] <DL7AD_mobile> Hi Anthony
[20:20] <DL7AD_mobile> Upu did you get my message?
[20:20] <Upu> you got your bits
[20:20] <Upu> ?
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[20:20] <DL7AD_mobile> Yeah. I got them
[20:20] <Upu> super
[20:20] <Upu> sorry about that I've started putting a note on all the orders I ship to Germany
[20:21] <DL7AD_mobile> I got them finally at the shop
[20:21] <DL7AD_mobile> ?
[20:21] <DL7AD_mobile> A note?
[20:21] <Upu> well this is the second time this has happened
[20:21] <Upu> you know the mail I send on order with the tracking number
[20:22] <DL7AD_mobile> Yeah
[20:22] <Upu> GLS in Germany don't seem to bother with the "sorry you weren't in cards"
[20:22] <DL7AD_mobile> Hm
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[21:30] <mikestir> Upu: they don't bother with them here either. if you're lucky stuff gets put in with a neighbour, but they rarely bother with a card, and if you're not so lucky it just gets hurled over the back gate in the rain
[21:30] <Upu> could be worse
[21:30] <Upu> I got a package returned from India (after 6 months)
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[21:31] <Upu> when I spoke to the guy I sent it too, apparently he'd not paid bribes to the postman
[21:31] <mikestir> lol. postman protection racket
[21:31] <Upu> if I'd have know I'd have claimed well before then
[21:32] <mikestir> I guy I worked with used to have problems with his postie leaving things in the wheelie bin on bin day
[21:32] <Upu> lol
[21:33] <mikestir> I once found a small soggy package of PCBs from china down the side of the house
[21:33] <mikestir> lucky they vac pack them
[21:33] <mostlyharmless> hey I was wondering how to tie off the neck of a hab after inflation?
[21:34] <mikestir> cable ties and gaffer tape
[21:35] <mikestir> http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:sealing_the_balloon
[21:36] <mostlyharmless> thanks
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[21:39] <Laurenceb_> is the consensus that cable ties are ok?
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[21:43] <Upu> if supported by gaffer
[21:44] <Upu> wouldn't rely on them on their own
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[21:54] <Laurenceb_> B-64 is charging :D
[21:54] Action: mattbrejza makes charging noises
[21:55] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Has it lowered its horns yet ?
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[22:03] <Laurenceb_> doing 100mph
[22:06] <MaXimaN> Not 100 mph
[22:06] <MaXimaN> 51.4mph
[22:06] <MaXimaN> But that's still brisk :)
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[22:07] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Humm the MT tracker thinks its turne into a mole, it has a height of -1m
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[22:15] <MaXimaN> http://ava.upuaut.net/store/ is down?
[22:15] <fsphil> seems to be yea
[22:16] <craag> http://isup.me/hab.supplies nooo
[22:16] <craag> (yes it is down)
[22:20] <Upu> yes its down
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[22:20] <Upu> some maintenance on the machine should be back in an hour or so sorry
[22:21] <Upu> night all
[22:21] <fsphil> nn
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[23:26] <MaXimaN> B-64 invading Canadia again now
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[23:33] <BeaverOne> Hello
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[23:46] <mfa298> hello BeaverOne
[23:54] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK2HAB-11 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VK2HAB-11
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