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[01:58] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03CALLSIGN123_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=CALLSIGN123_chase
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[02:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03WB8ELK-12 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=WB8ELK-12
[02:19] <Haxxa> I don't what is wrong with it - the microcontroller isn't outputing anything
[02:19] <Haxxa> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/29d4071bd7cca9ecac03
[02:19] <Haxxa> this is going to antartica soon and needs to be working
[02:19] <Haxxa> sd card isnt getting anything and no serial output?
[02:31] <Haxxa> and ideas?
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[02:36] <Haxxa> no one is alive?
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[02:52] <Haxxa> edmoore ^
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[03:04] <aadamson> Haxxa, it's very early in the morning in the UK where most of these guys are from
[03:04] <aadamson> doubt you'll see many on here for a few more hours
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[03:09] <Haxxa> ok
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[05:40] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EDUPIC4 after 038 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=EDUPIC4
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[09:32] <Lunar_Lander> hello
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[09:36] <fsphil> morning
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[09:49] <Maxell> mogguh
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[09:57] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SEBA - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=SEBA
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[10:44] <Haxxa> Hi guys I am wondering if anyone could help me with my code - I am trying to get the arduino to sleep to converse power however when I do my program stops working and outputs werid symbols in the serial output hopefully you can identify what I amdoing wrong? - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/458dccf6b2df63b0d04f
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[10:51] <Haxxa> anyone
[10:51] <craag> yo
[10:52] <amell> whats wrong with it?
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[10:54] <craag> Haxxa: I'm not familiar with manipulating the AVR low power mode. There's a nice lib for it though.
[10:54] <Haxxa> well If I remove sleep code it records data fine currently it doesn't and just outputs werid symbols to serial output
[10:54] <craag> For example see my code here: https://github.com/UKHASnet/UKHASnet_Firmware/blob/master/arduino_sensor/arduino_sensor.ino
[10:55] <craag> ^^ If you want something by monday you might just want to put your own sensor/storage code into that
[10:55] <amell> you appear to be powering down the arduino - SLEEP_MODE_PWR_DOWN - do irqs work in that?
[10:55] <craag> (I've had it running for 7 months off 3xAA so far :) )
[10:55] <mikestir> avr libc has functions for controlling the sleep modes in it
[10:55] <mikestir> no need for an external library
[10:55] <craag> oh cool
[10:56] <mikestir> in my wireless sensors I do set_sleep_mode(SLEEP_MODE_PWR_SAVE); sleep_mode();
[10:56] <mikestir> that can wake on RTC interrupt
[10:56] <craag> nice http://www.engblaze.com/hush-little-microprocessor-avr-and-arduino-sleep-mode-basics/
[10:57] <mikestir> if using the async timer (32khz xtal) to wake the only complication is that you have to wait a whole cycle before going back to sleep again, so you just wait for the ASSR bit in TCR2AUB to clear before you go back to sleep
[10:59] <Haxxa> mikestir I am using set sleep mode and avr sleep but I am doing something wrong - mind taking a look
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[11:01] <craag> mikestir: Looks like the lib I'm using is a wrapper around those functions that detects what peripherals are on the target device and manages those too
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[11:07] <mikestir> Haxxa: sure, show me the code
[11:08] <Haxxa> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/458dccf6b2df63b0d04f
[11:08] <mikestir> ok give me a minute I'm just doing some jobs
[11:09] <Haxxa> ok
[11:10] <amell> have you tried code with SLEEP_MODE_PWR_SAVE?
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[11:12] <Haxxa> nope but that would use more power
[11:12] <Haxxa> and that is highly undesirable
[11:12] <Haxxa> this is going to antartica and is powered from two l91 for monthes
[11:13] <amell> yes, thats fine, but does it work in that mode?
[11:13] <amell> as a debug strategy...
[11:13] <Haxxa> Umm... I will try give me two mins I am in y loft atm
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[11:25] <besobeso> ciao
[11:26] <besobeso> !list
[11:26] <besobeso> grazie
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[11:32] <Haxxa> amell I am tryoing you suggestion jsut need got gcaught up brb
[11:34] <mikestir> Haxxa: how are you waking up (which peripheral)? PWR_SAVE mode is still pretty good - I have boards that have been running for a couple of years off 2x AA
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[11:55] <mikestir> ping Haxxa
[11:55] <mikestir> Haxxa: I wonder if the problem is in relation to the use of the power reduction register bits? The datasheet explicitly states that you need to reinitialise most of the modules after waking up again (notably the timers don't seem to require this)
[11:55] <mikestir> I notice you're using a wdt interrupt to wake up - whenever I've used the wdt to wake up I've just arranged it so it goes through a full reset sequence. You can read MCUSR at startup to see what kind of reset you have.
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[12:09] <Haxxa> mikestir I increased baud rate and added delay and now I get wdt overrun!!!
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[12:18] <Haxxa> but still in any case not working + SLEEP_MODE_PWR_SAVE doesn't ork
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[12:22] <mikestir> Haxxa: try commenting out the power_all_enable
[12:24] <Haxxa> ok
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[12:25] <Haxxa> did that - no dice
[12:25] <Haxxa> nothing happens
[12:32] <mikestir> so what's the exact problem? it wakes up but doesn't work properly?
[12:33] <mikestir> is it feasible to switch to using the wdt as a reset source instead? at least then you know exactly what state everything is in
[12:34] <Haxxa> not sure just doesn't do anything
[12:34] <Haxxa> as soon as it reaches sleep cod
[12:34] <Haxxa> e
[12:36] <mikestir> I'm probably going to be doing some AVR stuff this afternoon - I'll see if I can get the same effect
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[12:36] <mikestir> is it 328p?
[12:39] <Haxxa> yes
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[12:40] <amell> why do you have delay(200) in your code?
[12:41] <Haxxa> The code I based mine off did - for DHT22 for some reason no idea - tried removing plays no effect
[12:42] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-64 after 035 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=B-64
[12:42] <amell> goddamn!
[12:43] <amell> ping leobodnar: your baby is coming back home
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[12:43] <amell> fsphil: got the yagi out?
[12:44] <amell> !hysplit run B-64
[12:44] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: You need to be an admin to do that.
[12:44] <amell> somebody?
[12:44] <Upu> !hysplit run B-64
[12:44] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[12:45] <amell> going for lap 5? :)
[12:45] <SpeedEvil> Woo! and indeed yay
[12:45] <amell> !hysplit b-64
[12:45] <SpacenearUS> 03amell: HYSPLIT for 03B-64 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/141004-12_181584_B64.gif
[12:45] <amell> oh. scotland bound.
[12:46] <SpeedEvil> Bang on 12 weeks.
[12:46] Action: SpeedEvil sighs.
[12:46] Action: SpeedEvil needs to get a reciever setup.
[12:46] <amell> you dont have long
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> :)
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> More seriously - the hysplit looks like bullshit
[12:47] <amell> why?
[12:47] <amell> its windy today
[12:47] <SpeedEvil> It starts out at right angles from the current trajectory
[12:48] <SpeedEvil> And if it carries on for 3 hours will miss most of scotland entirely
[12:48] <amell> the current trajectory is not a trajectory, its just a line from last known point.
[12:48] <SpeedEvil> doh
[12:48] Action: SpeedEvil wasn't zoomed.
[12:48] <fsphil> amell: um?
[12:48] <SpeedEvil> Ignore above somment
[12:49] <SpeedEvil> If you zoom _right_ in - you can see that it's in deed aligned with the hysplit
[12:49] <amell> fsphil: B-64 inbound to you
[12:49] <fsphil> oh revenge of the B
[12:49] <fsphil> weird, that ?focus link the bot prints never loads for me
[12:50] <thasti> it sometimes doesn't load for me as well..
[12:50] <fsphil> but if I remove ?focus it works fine
[12:50] <SpeedEvil> B64 only has a few thousand km to go till it hits three earth circumferences
[12:50] <fsphil> oh B is already over my horizon...
[12:50] <amell> you hear it?
[12:50] <fsphil> not tuned yet. sec
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[12:54] <malgar> ehi! I'm searching in http://habitat.habhub.org/ept/ a payload having gyro sensor data (angular velocity). Do you remember one?
[12:54] <malgar> !flights
[12:54] <SpacenearUS> 03malgar: Current flights: 03EDUPIC4 10(908c), 030x01 - uTrak Pico Flight 10(4028), 03WB8ELK-5 10(14f0), 03WB8ELK-12 10(5ca8), 03PS-22 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(2583)
[12:56] <craag> amazing altitude
[12:57] <fsphil> what mode is b-64 again?
[12:57] <malgar> woooo B-64 alive!
[12:57] <Upu> contestia
[12:57] <x-f> 64/1000
[12:58] <fsphil> nothing yet
[12:58] <fsphil> though I don't know it's precise frequency
[12:58] <fsphil> -'
[12:59] <malgar> 5 rounds?
[12:59] <malgar> starting the 6th?
[12:59] <SpeedEvil> Coming up for three earth circumferences!
[12:59] <fsphil> looks like it's heading for scotland
[12:59] <fsphil> it'll be behind that mountain as viewed from here
[13:00] <malgar> hey guys, what about my question? do you remember a payload with angular velocity data?
[13:01] <craag> malgar: Sorry no
[13:01] <malgar> ok
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03EDUPIC4 after 036 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=EDUPIC4
[13:06] <SpeedEvil> malgar: I would be very interested in that too
[13:06] <SpeedEvil> malgar: though you can cheat for some
[13:06] <SpeedEvil> malgar: video
[13:06] <malgar> SpeedEvil: done :)
[13:06] <SpeedEvil> But more interesting to me would be something showing balloon rotation
[13:07] <SpeedEvil> As payload rotation is poorly coupled and has a massive spring in the way
[13:07] <malgar> is possible to search in ept for keywords such as "rotation"? it could help the search
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[13:10] <fsphil> !dial B-64
[13:10] <SpacenearUS> 03fsphil: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[13:11] <Upu> you have to query the dial ?
[13:11] <fsphil> lol, figured it might have drifted
[13:12] <fsphil> not hearing anything
[13:12] <fsphil> should definitly be in range
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[13:14] <SpeedEvil> Gah - it's going to be dark if it goes over me.
[13:15] <MaXimaN_> It's back? Awesome!
[13:15] <SpeedEvil> VEry little apparant drop since last time it went over
[13:15] <MaXimaN_> Too far away for me to receive at present
[13:15] <SpeedEvil> On the 8th of last month, when it went ove rhte UK last, at a similar temperature, altitude was 12217 or so. 12199 current.
[13:15] <SpeedEvil> I haven't lookes at pressure
[13:16] <MaXimaN_> Bah, probably going to go too far north again for me to pick up
[13:16] <MaXimaN_> They hysplit is looking very... arctic
[13:16] <MaXimaN_> The*
[13:17] <fsphil> that's scotland for you
[13:18] <fsphil> still no obvious signal
[13:18] <Upu> nothing see here
[13:18] <fsphil> I'm tuning around a bit between .480 and .500
[13:21] <MaXimaN_> B-64 definitely doing anther YES to independence
[13:22] <fsphil> "you can't take the sky from me"
[13:35] <Laurenceb__> SpeedEvil: yeah i plotted the float altitude (by hand eek)
[13:35] <Laurenceb__> looks like the gradual descent was due to slow icing
[13:35] <Laurenceb__> then it cleared up over Alaska
[13:35] <Laurenceb__> also looks like there was some slow creep over the first 5 days
[13:36] <Laurenceb__> so it has lost some gas
[13:36] <Laurenceb__> but less than 25%
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[13:37] <LeoBodnar> i still maintain it was relaxing its original pre-stretch
[13:38] <Laurenceb__> heh
[13:38] <LeoBodnar> </unsubstantiated>
[13:38] <Laurenceb__> it needs vertical panels
[13:38] <LeoBodnar> it needs bigger panels, these are "summer" types
[13:40] <Upu> nothing see here
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[13:44] <fsphil> same
[13:45] <LeoBodnar> maybe it's faking it
[13:45] <fsphil> how often are the beeps suppose to be?
[13:47] <LeoBodnar> 3 seconds
[13:47] <fsphil> I might head up the hill, give me a clearer horizon
[13:48] <LeoBodnar> nominal audio freq was 434.501.500
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[13:50] <LeoBodnar> looks like it's pining for the fjords
[13:50] <fsphil> that's where I'm at now
[13:50] <fsphil> should be will in range
[13:50] <fsphil> well*
[13:51] <LeoBodnar> can you check 144.800 ?
[13:51] <LeoBodnar> and see if it has drifted
[13:51] <LeoBodnar> when UHF is 434.501.500 VHF is 144.800.000
[13:51] <Laurenceb__> is there any log?
[13:51] <LeoBodnar> yeah it's on 25 sep now
[13:52] <fsphil> listening on 144.800
[13:52] <LeoBodnar> with a waterfall?
[13:52] <fsphil> yea
[13:52] <LeoBodnar> should come about now
[13:52] <fsphil> though not my SDR (which refuses to work with any of my modern PCs)
[13:52] <LeoBodnar> just
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[13:53] <LeoBodnar> just came in
[13:53] <fsphil> nothing heard
[13:53] <fsphil> when's the next one due?
[13:54] <LeoBodnar> about now
[13:54] <LeoBodnar> just been
[13:54] <LeoBodnar> APRS is every 2 minutes ish
[13:55] <LeoBodnar> next 13:56:50
[13:55] <fsphil> saw a brief signal slightly above 144.800
[13:55] <fsphil> at the time you mentioned
[13:56] <fsphil> and again
[13:56] <fsphil> too early
[13:56] <LeoBodnar> in ~15sec
[13:56] <fsphil> yea there
[13:57] <LeoBodnar> is it near 144.800?
[13:57] <fsphil> though it happened twice
[13:57] <fsphil> I don't think that's it
[13:57] <LeoBodnar> maybe retweet
[13:57] <mikestir> heh. an actual olivia qso on hf. first time I've ever heard that being used
[13:57] <fsphil> 144798500+1576
[13:57] <LeoBodnar> or wahetever it is called
[13:57] <PA3WEG> digipeat
[13:57] <PA3WEG> ;)
[13:58] <fsphil> possibly, though it was on precisely the same frequency
[13:58] <LeoBodnar> so it's near 144.800 then UHF should be 433.500 + 1.5kHz audio
[13:58] <fsphil> more likely the same radio
[13:58] <LeoBodnar> 434.500 sorry
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[14:11] <Maxell> mikestir: "an actual olivia qso on hf" let me check my log might be the same guy
[14:11] <mikestir> 14.106 - still there
[14:12] <Maxell> EB5DZC Juan Carlos, 14.073684 ?
[14:12] <Maxell> that was a few hours ago
[14:12] <mikestir> no. OH2HN and DJ4DM
[14:12] <Maxell> And OH2HN i worked before
[14:13] <Maxell> OH2HN Altti, date 20140514 start @ 09:31:00, end @ 09:40:07
[14:13] <Maxell> he was qrp mobile
[14:14] <mikestir> don't know what he's using now - I was just tuning around. strong sigs though
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[14:16] <Maxell> wow lot of psk
[14:16] <Maxell> contest again?
[14:16] <Maxell> http://i.sigio.nl/941855574e0860b513d9698b8ac2f75f.png
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[14:17] <boring> !flights
[14:17] <SpacenearUS> 03boring: Current flights: 03EDUPIC4 10(908c), 030x01 - uTrak Pico Flight 10(4028), 03WB8ELK-5 10(14f0), 03WB8ELK-12 10(5ca8), 03PS-22 434.650 OLIVIA 8/250 Enable RSID 10(2583)
[14:19] <fsphil> radio is now in the attic, no lossy cable
[14:20] <fsphil> however spiders
[14:22] <fsphil> forgot about rsid
[14:22] <lz1dev> http://i.imgur.com/eF78WFz.jpg
[14:22] <fsphil> got a repeating signal
[14:23] <fsphil> 434498.000 + 1250hz
[14:23] <fsphil> not three seconds though
[14:23] <LeoBodnar> four maybe?
[14:24] <Maxell> could that be B?
[14:24] <LeoBodnar> it should be some whole seconds
[14:24] <MaXimaN_> LeoBodnar: Congrats on heading into the sixth circumnavigation :)
[14:24] <LeoBodnar> heh ta
[14:24] <LeoBodnar> it's a good sport
[14:25] <fsphil> nah irregular
[14:25] <LeoBodnar> i put on 5 pounds while B-64 was flying
[14:25] <lz1dev> lol
[14:25] <MaXimaN_> That's probably comfort eating. It's always tough when they fly the nest.
[14:27] <Maxell> mikestir: still going on :P "ings from here..DJ4DM de OH2HN"
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[14:35] <fsphil> got it
[14:36] <fsphil> apply: RSID: CONTESTIA_64_1000 @ 1879 Hz
[14:36] <fsphil> and decoding
[14:36] <fsphil> nice
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[14:36] <fsphil> green
[14:36] <craag> :)
[14:36] <fsphil> Leo wins the fsphil challange, again
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[14:37] <fsphil> almost spot on frequency
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[14:42] <fsphil> beeps are clear on the waterfall now -- it must have been behind the hill before
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[14:59] <fiftydollarsat> I have just put a flight document up for HABAXE1 on Habitat, for tommorow morning, 09:00, 434.400Mhz, can someone OK it please.
[15:01] <craag> fiftydollarsat: Post the doc id over in #habhub
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> hi craag
[15:01] <craag> Yo Lunar_Lander
[15:01] <Lunar_Lander> how's life?
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[15:02] <craag> Not bad at all, enjoying a lazy day!
[15:02] <craag> you?
[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> same here :)
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[15:03] <Lunar_Lander> also, it is Sputnik day :)
[15:04] <MaXimaN> Dial for Sputnik, comrade?
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> ah something around 20 MHz but it is long gone
[15:04] <MaXimaN> ;)
[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> :)
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[15:22] <aadamson> all the *new* Aethers are up out of Texas - looks like one early mortality, but the other 2 are doing fine - http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=6&call=a%2FAETH22-5%2Ca%2FAETH22-2%2Ca%2FAETH22-4&timerange=3600&tail=3600
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[15:26] <LeoBodnar> they have sat modems so you can relax a bit
[15:26] <LeoBodnar> if anybody felt *tense*
[15:30] <Laurenceb__> I think B-63,64,66 combined have now flown for longer than all other amateur flights combined
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[15:31] <aadamson> LeoBodnar, how heavy are the Aeth*'s payloads?
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[15:32] <Laurenceb__> is there any sign of Aeth?
[15:34] <LeoBodnar> i don't know exact weight, I assume ~1lbs
[15:34] <Laurenceb__> lol
[15:34] <Laurenceb__> is it latex?
[15:34] <aadamson> yeah really...
[15:34] <aadamson> I don't think they are latex
[15:35] <Laurenceb__> me neither
[15:35] <aadamson> they are a super pressure design for constant altitude
[15:35] <LeoBodnar> they are superpressure
[15:35] Action: Laurenceb__ reads scrollback
[15:35] <Laurenceb__> sounds nice
[15:35] <aadamson> I think arko said the big red bees are power pigs, so they must have lots o battery(s)
[15:35] <LeoBodnar> profile looks pukka
[15:36] <LeoBodnar> standard bee is 6W
[15:36] <aadamson> power consumption or output power?
[15:36] <LeoBodnar> output
[15:36] <aadamson> wow
[15:36] <Laurenceb__> wtf
[15:37] <Laurenceb__> are they flying mylar enveloped?
[15:37] <Laurenceb__> *envelopes
[15:38] <aadamson> I don't know, maybe LeoBodnar has heard, they reply on the ukhas mail list with some info, but I don't remember it's contents
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[15:47] <amell> fsphil: are you reliably receiving b-64 now?
[15:49] <amell> able to pipe your audio to internet by any chance?
[15:49] <Upu> on 434.500 exactly fsphil ?
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[15:52] <amell> Length: 114969.8 km Duration: 84d 9h
[15:53] <amell> 48% of the way to the moon&!
[15:53] <Laurenceb__> LeoBodnar: is there missing data from B-64?
[15:53] <amell> sorry, unit error. 30% of the way to the moon
[15:53] <Laurenceb__> or was it out of range whilst the log for ~1st Oct was tx
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[15:56] <mikestir> fsphil: is it txing now?
[15:57] <Laurenceb__> hysplti says its flying 500Pa lower than launch
[15:57] <Laurenceb__> dunno how much of that is ice and hysplit error
[15:57] <Laurenceb__> it needs a baro sensor :D
[15:59] <Laurenceb__> but diffusion seems to allow at least 6 months flight for B-64 and a years if it uses hydrogen
[16:00] <amell> eh?
[16:00] <amell> surely shorter for hydrogen?
[16:00] <craag> diatomic
[16:00] <amell> or did we have this conversation before.
[16:00] <amell> yes we did
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[16:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03HABAXE1 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=HABAXE1
[16:02] <Laurenceb__> diffusion is almost exactly halves for H2 compared to He
[16:02] <Laurenceb__> *halved
[16:04] <Laurenceb__> its got to be some sort of packaging film
[16:04] <Laurenceb__> maybe even EVOH based
[16:05] <LeoBodnar> no diurnal drama
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> its def at least PVDC based
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[16:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03PYSYchase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=PYSYchase
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[16:15] <mattbrejza> oh wow b64 went alaska -> uk quickely
[16:15] <LeoBodnar> ascent rate 2m/s so it's not a tetroon
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[16:16] <Laurenceb__> from alaska... to UK
[16:16] <Laurenceb__> hit me with your rhythm stick, hit me, hit me
[16:16] <LeoBodnar> lol
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[16:19] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THt5u-i2d9k
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X6spt3fAD2U#t=95 - as somewhat more on-topic
[16:25] <SpeedEvil> Submersible quadcopter
[16:28] <chrisstubbs> kinda flies underwater too, nice
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[16:32] <LeoBodnar> quadcopters are x4 uglier than helicopters
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[16:32] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUGfXD0SW5Q What about this? Octadecacopter.
[16:34] <LeoBodnar> oh dear, pass me the bucket please
[16:41] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03WB8ELK-12 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=WB8ELK-12
[16:42] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[17:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SR0FLY - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=SR0FLY
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[17:24] <LeoBodnar> B-64 will enter UK geofence in 15 minutes
[17:38] <fsphil> nice, still decoding
[17:39] <LeoBodnar> does it sound tired?
[17:40] <jcoxon> LeoBodnar, perhaps you should do QSL cards for us if we rx it
[17:40] <LeoBodnar> good idea! :D
[17:40] <fsphil> it sounds happy, but also that it would quite like to come home now
[17:40] <LeoBodnar> 5,000 should do
[17:41] <fsphil> Upu: according to my radio, 434.500 + 1920hz
[17:41] <LeoBodnar> shame APRS does not list all receiving stations
[17:41] <fsphil> haha, string 32700
[17:41] <fsphil> hoping leo didn't use int16_t
[17:42] <fsphil> 68 to go...
[17:42] <mikestir> that would involve him using C :)
[17:42] <LeoBodnar> that's overflowed several time by now
[17:42] <fsphil> oh yes
[17:42] <fsphil> compiled languages are for wimps
[17:42] <LeoBodnar> should be uint16
[17:42] <LeoBodnar> i can't even remember what was the purpose of B-64 launch
[17:42] <fsphil> I think it's more or less at it's closest point to me
[17:42] <fsphil> should start moving away now
[17:43] <fsphil> 194.5km atm
[17:43] <LeoBodnar> i think it was a controlled reference balloon for B-65
[17:43] <LeoBodnar> that came down near M25
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[17:48] <LeoBodnar> according to my calculations string counter has overflowed once
[17:49] <fsphil> 65535?
[17:49] <LeoBodnar> yep
[17:49] <fsphil> nice
[17:49] <LeoBodnar> it should have been about 120,000 strings now
[17:50] <LeoBodnar> sorry
[17:50] <LeoBodnar> 120,000 minutes and 98,000 strings
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[17:51] <mattbrejza> 50000 of which are on snus
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[17:52] <Lunar_Lander> awesome
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[17:53] <LeoBodnar> it's inside UK geofence now
[17:54] <mikestir> better use a 64-bit int on the next one just in case
[17:55] <daveake> unsigned
[17:55] <LeoBodnar> i like BCDs
[17:55] <LeoBodnar> not that I use them
[17:56] <LeoBodnar> i think i had one project in my life that really needed them
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[17:58] <gonzo_nb> useful for making stuff readable with a hex editor, without going all bloaty PC styley and using ascii
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[18:02] <Upu> its in my blind spot anyway
[18:02] <fsphil> forgot about that
[18:02] <fsphil> it's a bit further north than my flights usually get
[18:02] <Upu> yeah
[18:03] <fsphil> curently 434.500 + 1860
[18:04] <fsphil> dropping a bit
[18:04] <fsphil> the sun has set here
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[18:05] <fsphil> 434.500 + 1640
[18:05] <fsphil> dropping fairly quickly
[18:05] <fsphil> and speeding up
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[18:06] <amell> speeding up?
[18:06] <fsphil> yea had to re-tune mid-sentence
[18:07] <amell> be interesting to see battery discharge history if we can keep receiving it long enough
[18:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SR0FLY - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=SR0FLY
[18:07] <fsphil> frequency still falling rapidly
[18:09] <fsphil> contestia seems to handle the drift
[18:09] <fsphil> -31c
[18:09] <fsphil> down from -22c not that long ago
[18:09] <fsphil> sunset is brutal up there :)
[18:10] <lz1dev> LeoBodnar: whats the charge cycle rating for B batts?
[18:10] <amell> looks like battery max voltage is dropping over time. 4.2V in July and 3.86V now.
[18:10] <Laurenceb_> amell: thats as the panels are horizontally mounted
[18:10] <fsphil> just as I say that, the drift stopped the last string decoding
[18:10] <fsphil> notice that it's moving away from me now
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[18:12] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EDUPIC4 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=EDUPIC4
[18:12] <amell> Laurenceb_: but solar cell still generating max 0.58 as opposed to 0.66 in july
[18:12] <amell> i guess the days are shorter etc sun lower in the sky
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[18:12] <SpeedEvil> Aso look at the battery min voltage
[18:12] <fsphil> rsid didn't decode that time
[18:13] <fsphil> -36c
[18:13] <fsphil> brrr
[18:13] <amell> hmm, end of september, the battery was still getting 4.2V max.
[18:13] <amell> so that doesnt really explain why its dropped so suddenly
[18:15] <Laurenceb_> voltage isnt linear
[18:16] <fsphil> not drifting as much now
[18:16] <fsphil> seems to have settled
[18:17] <fsphil> I should setup an SDR is edinburgh
[18:17] <fsphil> we need more scottish stations
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[18:18] <fsphil> huh, driftin again
[18:18] <fsphil> what would have caused it to paused briefly
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[18:19] <fsphil> now it's rising in freq.
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[18:20] <fsphil> falling again. maybe tx'ing heats it up
[18:21] <SA6BSS> !dial SR0FLY
[18:21] <SpacenearUS> 03SA6BSS: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[18:21] <fsphil> ok it's just faded, I don't see the peeps
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[18:21] <fsphil> and back again. this is a rollercoaster
[18:27] <LeoBodnar> keep your powder dry
[18:27] <fsphil> odd, no text in that last blast
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[18:30] <fsphil> managed one string
[18:31] <mikestir> I have a load of continuous qrm on .500 now. sounds like a weak FM signal
[18:37] <fsphil> bah, I take back what I said about contestia handling drift
[18:37] <fsphil> it's not managing this at all
[18:38] <fsphil> annoyingly it reports the frequency offset, but they havn't made it an AFC feature
[18:39] <mikestir> yeah I noticed that. I was wondering about adding a patch to make it retune the rig to keep the offset close to 0
[18:39] <LeoBodnar> did you extend the tune margin to 100?
[18:39] <fsphil> no...
[18:39] <mikestir> hmmm seems there are two simplex internet gateways near here both on 434.5
[18:40] <mikestir> how inconsiderate
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[18:43] <fsphil> didn't help LeoBodnar
[18:48] <fsphil> over 200km away now
[18:48] <fsphil> if I tune above it I can get the second string
[18:49] <fsphil> it's usually a bit more settled by the time it gets to that
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[19:08] <Laurenceb_> there seems to be a bit of path over Yukon with no log?
[19:12] <SpeedEvil> hasn't it been over 5 days?
[19:13] <SpeedEvil> So there would be
[19:15] <amell> speedevil: werent you in scotland? got your rx set up?
[19:15] <SpeedEvil> yes, no
[19:17] <fsphil> signal's gone here
[19:17] <fsphil> no back again
[19:17] <amell> kinda surprised we dont seem to have any listeners in scotland
[19:17] <SpeedEvil> I do have a somewhat restricted horizon to the north
[19:17] <fsphil> but weaker. it may be on the way out
[19:17] <mikestir> I'm not going to see much here with that echolink node still on
[19:18] <mikestir> oh it's gone. current dial?
[19:19] <fsphil> 434.495.660 + 1428hz
[19:19] <amell> any listeners in bergen? with the current hysplit path it should be receivable there
[19:19] <fsphil> getting lots of bad strings
[19:22] <amell> I feel in my water that B-66 is now dead
[19:22] <amell> last man standing here
[19:22] <Laurenceb_> it needs some sort of battery fuse
[19:23] <Laurenceb_> i bet the lipo is shorting out
[19:23] <amell> it would have been heard by now surely if it was txing at all.
[19:23] <Laurenceb_> http://www.swaviator.com/html/issueJF04/blimp.html
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[19:32] <SpeedEvil> Laurenceb_: you just need a big enough one.
[19:32] <SpeedEvil> About 18m in diameter, and you can make it out if 1/2" ply
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[19:37] <Laurenceb__> http://e-collection.library.ethz.ch/eserv/eth:29591/eth-29591-01.pdf
[19:37] <kf7fer> Laurenceb_: So it cost $1700 to fill his blimp in 2001... wonder how much now?
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[19:42] <SpeedEvil> Helium price has gone up ridiculously
[19:46] <amell> and it will continue to rise dramatically
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[19:55] <Laurenceb__> http://repository.tksc.jaxa.jp/dr/prc/japan/contents/AA0063732000/63732000.pdf
[19:55] <Laurenceb__> ^attn astrobiologist (p81)
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[20:36] <fsphil> I think the battery has died
[20:36] <lz1dev> B battery?
[20:37] <fsphil> yea
[20:37] <fsphil> I've got the pips but no data
[20:37] <lz1dev> doesn't it sleep around 3v?
[20:38] <fsphil> ah possibly just longer between strings
[20:39] <fsphil> 3.2v on the last line
[20:40] <lz1dev> i recall leo saying the hiberation sometimes works sometimes doesn't
[20:41] <mikestir> dial still .496 fsphil?
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[20:42] <lz1dev> !dial b-64
[20:42] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Latest dials for 03B-64 10(3afe): 03434.49566 MHz
[20:42] <fsphil> 434.495.370
[20:43] <fsphil> the pips are at about 800hz
[20:43] <mikestir> I think my radios is about 400 Hz out, but I can never remember which way
[20:43] <mikestir> I really must calibrate it
[20:44] <fsphil> rsid should spot it
[20:44] <fsphil> if it sends anymore data
[20:44] <mikestir> it's going to be really weak
[20:44] <fsphil> it is
[20:45] <mikestir> I doubt I'm going to see it if Upu hasn't since he seems to be nearer now and has the beam
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[20:46] <fsphil> that's it for me I suspect
[20:46] <fsphil> nice to see it!
[20:51] <Rebounder> sri for being out of phase; what are you chasing? :)
[20:52] <jededu> Can somone clear EDUPIC4 from the map please
[20:53] <fsphil> Rebounder: B-64
[20:54] <jededu> Ahh its gone
[20:54] <Rebounder> fsphil: oh
[20:56] <Rebounder> mm, going north it seems
[21:09] <Upu> I have a blind spot to the north
[21:09] <Upu> hill behind me
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[21:17] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[21:25] <mikestir> I just had another listen - nothing. seems like it was going to turn to the north though
[21:25] <Laurenceb__> speedevil required :P
[21:25] <mikestir> what about rob dts?
[21:25] <SpeedEvil> :/
[21:26] <SpeedEvil> If it was light, I'd go out and see if I could manage a visual
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[21:34] <Upu> Suspect Rob could get it
[21:35] <mikestir> given some of the feats he's pulled off on stuff over the north sea I'd be surprised if he couldn't
[21:36] <fsphil> I don't even see the pips anymore
[21:38] <Laurenceb__> should be in range of Norway by dawn
[21:38] <Laurenceb__> plenty of aprs there
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[22:31] <amell> what time is the next GFS model?
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[22:32] <amell> 00UTC i thought. run another hysplit?
[22:37] <craag> I think there's a large delay between the GFS being generated, and it being available for use
[22:38] <amell> i suspect it may be a bit different
[22:38] <amell> weather north of scotland is a bit confused
[22:39] <craag> yep
[22:39] <craag> If it's anything like the GFS files availability though - you might be waiting a while...
[22:40] <craag> or does hysplit run locally on the habhub machines now?
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[22:49] <amell> my evenings work - http://imgur.com/bHrAtp5
[22:50] <ulfr> for a split second I thought I was about to see something nsfw
[22:50] <ulfr> this is cool.
[22:51] <ulfr> Where are you launching this from eventually?
[22:51] <amell> elsworth tomorrow
[22:51] <amell> well, it is a hard pointy object&
[22:51] <amell> its bloody tight...!
[22:51] <craag> that's what she said
[22:52] <ulfr> Well, it's rocket science.
[22:52] <ulfr> *grins*
[22:52] <ulfr> amell: UK?
[22:52] <amell> look at the size of that JST connector!
[22:52] <amell> yes UK
[22:52] <ulfr> cool
[22:53] <ulfr> What altitude are you expecting from that thing?
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[22:53] <amell> 4000ft for tomorrow
[22:54] <amell> will go 20-25K with big enough motor
[22:54] <ulfr> solid fuel?
[22:54] <amell> ammonium perchlorate. yes AP solid
[22:54] <ulfr> neat
[22:55] <kf7fer> So you're using the JST connector as your on/off switch? (sorry to be slow)
[23:07] <amell> yes
[23:08] <kf7fer> tell me... do you use a crimper or some sort of tool to do the connectors? I'm looking for a better solution that the 0.1" 2pin keyed molex connectors I've been using
[23:08] <kf7fer> that=than
[23:09] <kf7fer> I keep ending up having to wiggle the cables and that makes me crazy
[23:10] <amell> i just bought precrimped tails
[23:11] <kf7fer> wow a man after my own heart! that's typically what I do if I can
[23:11] <amell> save yourself some heartache
[23:12] <kf7fer> and the $200 a crimping tool costs?
[23:12] <amell> i have a crimper, but its a pita to get the tool lined up. you can get £10 ones on ebay. China...
[23:13] <kf7fer> oh. well I've had terrible luck with crimpers
[23:13] <amell> always end up squishing a mm out
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