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[07:22] <YO9GJX> http://aprs.fi/#!call=a%2FYO6OSC-11&timerange=3600&tail=3600
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[07:45] <Upu> http://ukhas.org.uk/general:aprs_legislation#romania
[07:51] <edmoore> there is no entry for belarus
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[08:11] <jcoxon> morning all
[08:14] <nats`> hi
[08:14] <edmoore> morning jcoxon
[08:17] <YO9GJX> morning
[08:19] <ibanezmatt13> morning
[08:20] <mfa298> moaning
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[09:11] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VR2SC - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VR2SC
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[10:14] <whiteg6> !flights
[10:14] <SpacenearUS> 03whiteg6: Current flights: 03Nova 26 10(3111)
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[10:17] <G4AIU-Eugene> GM all
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[10:22] <G8JNJ> !Flights
[10:22] <BBrian-G0HDI> Frequency for Joey pse?
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[10:22] <G8JNJ> !flights
[10:22] <SpacenearUS> 03G8JNJ: Current flights: 03Nova 26 10(3111)
[10:22] <MaXimaN> Nova 26 flight schedule operating on standard HAB time then :)
[10:25] <MaXimaN> JOEY, 434.593MHz, 50bd 300Hz shift 8N2 RTTY
[10:25] <BBrian-G0HDI> Thanks!
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[10:37] <BBrian-G0HDI> Strange! .593 and thereabouts is completely devoid of any signals with me. Nurse! I've gone deaf....
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[10:39] Action: MaXimaN waits
[10:39] <BBrian-G0HDI> RX and Antenna ok. I checked the air band, no problem. Looks like I'll pass on this one...
[10:40] <MaXimaN> The noise floor up at that end of the band is higher
[10:45] <BBrian-G0HDI> All clear of noise up to .597
[10:46] <BBrian-G0HDI> Should see at least something on waterfall, but absolutely zilcho *smile*.
[10:47] <MaXimaN> I see no signals up there either, just higher levels of static
[10:48] <BBrian-G0HDI> I'm well inside the green footprint. How about you?
[10:48] <MaXimaN> I just see the usual 433 Mhz device traffic down at 434
[10:48] <MaXimaN> I'm in south London, so should have no problem receiving this
[10:48] <MaXimaN> Antenna is on the chimney now too
[10:49] <BBrian-G0HDI> You could throw stones at it from there lol
[10:51] <MaXimaN> VR2SC is JOEY?
[10:51] <BBrian-G0HDI> I assume so as lots of peeps seem to be receiving it on Spacenear.us
[10:51] Action: bertrik is confused about currently flying balloons
[10:52] <bertrik> the time stamp seems to be in the future
[10:52] <bertrik> and hasn't been updated for a while now
[10:53] <BBrian-G0HDI> Cought me by surprise too. I just switched on and saw flight up on Spacenear.us
[10:53] <MaXimaN> Yeah
[10:53] <MaXimaN> That looks bogus
[10:54] <BBrian-G0HDI> The truth is out there.....
[10:54] <bertrik> it shows RevSpace as receiving it, but our receiver is not even powered up at the moment
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[10:54] <MaXimaN> Possibly data from a previous flight then
[10:55] <Upu> thats odd
[10:55] <MaXimaN> I'll refrain from throwing my FCDP+ in the bin then
[10:55] <Upu> VR2SC was last week
[10:55] <BBrian-G0HDI> I'm going back to rehab lol
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[10:56] <bertrik> :)
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[11:08] <DanielRichman> launch Soon, hopefully
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[11:08] <DanielRichman> life lesson: don't launch without checking that it has a lock. near miss there :-)
[11:10] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JOEY - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=JOEY
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[11:53] <Herman-PB0AHX> !flights
[11:53] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Current flights: 03Nova 26 10(3111)
[11:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> !payload Nova
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> !payload Nova 26
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[11:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> !payload Nova- 26
[11:54] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
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[12:03] <MaXimaN> !payload Nova 26
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> 03MaXimaN: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:03] <MaXimaN> !payload JOEY
[12:03] <SpacenearUS> 03MaXimaN: Payload 03JOEY 10(3111) 03$$JOEY - 03434.63 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/350Hz ASCII-8 none 2
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[12:05] <MaXimaN> JOEY away
[12:08] <Maxell> !payload JOEY
[12:08] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Payload 03JOEY 10(3111) 03$$JOEY - 03434.63 MHz USB 03RTTY 50/350Hz ASCII-8 none 2
[12:08] <MaXimaN> 1400M, nothing on waterfall yet
[12:13] <MaXimaN> 3000M
[12:14] <MaXimaN> Upu: Do you have it on .63? Or is it lower?
[12:14] <Upu> 434.593
[12:14] <MaXimaN> Ta
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[12:19] <MaXimaN> Still nowt here
[12:20] <Maxell> JOEY dial on 434.593 MHz USB?
[12:20] <Upu> about that
[12:22] <g3wdi> nor here
[12:24] <MaXimaN> Should be seeing something by now
[12:24] <Maxell> MaXimaN: seeing something yes
[12:24] <Maxell> very weak
[12:24] <Maxell> 300 Hz shift?
[12:25] <MaXimaN> Meant to be 350
[12:25] <Maxell> 434.592 MHz, 1250 Hz audio
[12:25] <Upu> its a bit drifty
[12:25] <Upu> 434.593
[12:25] <Maxell> Yeah, 21m52.237
[12:25] <Maxell> 232,0:250.8s
[12:25] <Maxell> Just about coming trough
[12:26] <MaXimaN> I swear I used to get better results on my rtlsdr dongle
[12:26] <Herman-PB0AHX> Maxel shif abt 300
[12:26] <Maxell> $$JOEY,1876,13:6:2,52.2390330,0.0663661,<1922.,53*4
[12:26] <Maxell> Herman-PB0AHX: yep are you already uploading? :)
[12:27] <Herman-PB0AHX> i have him on my waterfall but not yet writing
[12:27] <Maxell> Ah!
[12:27] <Herman-PB0AHX> $$JOEY,1877,12:26:,5.239270,0.2709180,8322,22.5,11,3*5A1E
[12:27] <Maxell> Oef!
[12:27] <Herman-PB0AHX> red red red
[12:28] <Maxell> same here
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[12:29] <Maxell> mogguh Tjalling_PE1RQM
[12:29] <Maxell> 434.592 MHz USB en audio op 1825 Hz
[12:29] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> Middag :) Maxell
[12:29] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> thanks
[12:29] <Maxell> Herman-PB0AHX: getting weaker here!
[12:30] <Herman-PB0AHX> lot of drifting here
[12:30] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> I don't hear anything yet
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[12:32] <Maxell> jarod: 434.5925 MHz USB, audio @ 1950 Hz
[12:32] <Maxell> ýÝïÿw$$JOE,1894,12:3> $52.2424Qð3$.Ž˜738,15>5,11,3*389C
[12:32] <MaXimaN> I still got nothing too
[12:32] <g3wdi> $$JOEY,1894,12:32:21,52.2426950,0.3580019,10738,15.5,11,3*389C
[12:33] <Maxell> So close! $$JOEY,1895,12:32:41,52.2429200,0.363558 y5,15.0,10,3*1417
[12:33] <MaXimaN> Begining to wonder if it was worth sticking this antenna on the roof at all
[12:33] <Maxell> Still with the rtl-sdr?
[12:33] <MaXimaN> I tried the FCDP+ and the rtlsdr, no joy on either
[12:34] <Herman-PB0AHX> here only red red red grgrgrgr
[12:34] <MaXimaN> I have aircell-7 up to the antenna and it's about 3 to 4M higher than it was previously and outside
[12:34] <Herman-PB0AHX> ÿýþÿ÷ÿ$$JOEY,1899,12:5s0122WLF6}3865171,11492,13.5,11,#<6r46
[12:34] <MaXimaN> Within the green circle too
[12:34] <Herman-PB0AHX> signaal going up and down here
[12:35] <Maxell> MaXimaN: the signal is quite weak too
[12:35] <Maxell> That doesn't help.
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[12:36] <MaXimaN> The irony is, wit the RG58 and antenna in the attic I was able to track payloads right down below 1000M
[12:36] <Maxell> $$JOEY,1900,1235841l52.2482260,0.4216051,12241,11>5,11,3*2623
[12:36] <Maxell> Right now just a matter of a few wrong bits
[12:37] <Maxell> Green $$JOEY,1907,12:36:41,52.2493970,0.4440236,12699,10.0,11,3*F7E0
[12:37] <Herman-PB0AHX> congrats maxel
[12:38] <Maxell> warning: hbtUT Caught runtime_error: EZ::HTTPResponse: HTTP 0 (http://habitat.habhub.org/habitat/_design/payload_telemetry/_update/add_listener/cd11ba85a3097a1e77f19c2bda1aa5c5096c4a65dda66c35466f1416db231278)
[12:38] <Maxell> seriously guys
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[12:39] <Herman-PB0AHX> GREEN $$JOEY,1913,12:38:41,52.2536660,0.4859719,13620,7.5,11,3*8EBA
[12:40] <g3wdi> $$JOEY,1916,12:39:41,52.2576370,0.5017003,14076,6.5,11,3*014C
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[12:42] <MaXimaN> Still nothing. Not a peep on the waterfall.
[12:43] <MaXimaN> Perhaps I have a break in the coax
[12:43] <MaXimaN> Picking up stuff up on 2M easily enough though
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[12:44] <Herman-PB0AHX> now the most are green here
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[12:50] <MaXimaN> Would someone mind just grabbing a screenshot of their waterfall please?
[12:51] <MaXimaN> The absence of any signals in this area makes me think something is very wrong with my setup
[12:51] <SpeedEvil> Perhaps you are under a massive radio-opaque airtight dome?
[12:52] <MaXimaN> It certainly seems that way
[12:52] <Herman-PB0AHX> http://i.sigio.nl/160c5859941c29d4ef51ae6f77116920.jpg
[12:53] <Herman-PB0AHX> MaXimaN: a screenshot from me
[12:54] <MaXimaN> Sorry, I meant RF watefall :)
[12:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> is also on the pic
[12:55] <Herman-PB0AHX> the frequentie here is 434.5956
[12:55] <Herman-PB0AHX> on the icom910H
[12:55] <MaXimaN> 434 for me: http://imgur.com/NAbRtri,0780Oxw
[12:55] <MaXimaN> And 2M: http://imgur.com/NAbRtri,0780Oxw#1
[12:56] <Herman-PB0AHX> look like no antenne is on
[12:56] <MaXimaN> I know, right?
[12:57] <MaXimaN> If I disconnect the waterfall does go down to near zero
[12:57] <Herman-PB0AHX> maby restart the system
[12:57] <MaXimaN> Did that. Unplugged and replugged the FCDP+ too. Switched to the rtlsdr, same thing
[12:57] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> Have you set the tuner gain correctly?
[12:57] <MaXimaN> So to me that says broken coax or broken colinear
[12:57] <MaXimaN> Gain is at 20
[12:58] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> Try automatic for test
[12:58] <Herman-PB0AHX> mmm red lines agn
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[13:00] <Maxell> Herman-PB0AHX: yet still going up...
[13:00] <Maxell> red here too
[13:01] <Herman-PB0AHX> yep but weakly signaal here
[13:02] <Herman-PB0AHX> distance 255 km and elevation now 4.0
[13:03] <DanielRichman> does anyone have a predicted landing time to hand (assume 5m/s grnd desc)
[13:05] <MaXimaN> Okay
[13:05] <MaXimaN> So it's a FCDP+ problem
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[13:05] <MaXimaN> I can see the signal on the waterfall on the rtlsdr, just can't hear or decode it
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[13:07] <mfa298> MaXimaN: if you're using sdrsharp with the fcdp+ you may need to check the Swap IQ button. also make sure it's using the right input device
[13:07] <MaXimaN> Yep, did both of those
[13:07] <MaXimaN> Like I say, it works just fine for 2M
[13:07] <MaXimaN> Just seems really insensitive above 434
[13:08] <Maxell> get it swapped
[13:08] <mfa298> maybe check that it shows it's using the right filter in the config (also have the mixer and lna enabled)
[13:09] <MaXimaN> Yep, correct filter and both mixer and lna enabled
[13:09] <Herman-PB0AHX> he going down now here
[13:10] <mfa298> that does sound a bit like it might be duff. I've generally found the fcdp+ much better than an rtl stick
[13:10] <MaXimaN> Yes, mine used to be too
[13:10] <MaXimaN> But since I moved it to the end of a long USB cable and started using the aircell-7 it starting behaving weirdly
[13:10] <MaXimaN> Including that dropoff at either side of the waterfall
[13:11] <MaXimaN> You can see that in the images above
[13:11] <MaXimaN> So now it's plugged in to the hub and aircell running down into the man-cave, but the behaviour is the same
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[13:14] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> Burst :(
[13:14] <Maxell> Tjalling_PE1RQM: not ment to be a floater
[13:15] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> No, but its very early
[13:15] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> just 25km
[13:17] <Maxell> Could be a heavy payload
[13:18] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> I missed the announcement, but I remember Joey being a tiny balloon (100g latex)
[13:20] <Maxell> intresting moment to get greens $$JOEY,2038,13:20:21,52.2839850,0.7897279,11929,-8.0,14,3*F479
[13:21] <Maxell> another $$JOEY,2039,13:20:41,52.2841150,0.7966613,11708,-8.5,14,3*5233
[13:22] <Herman-PB0AHX> here red green red green
[13:22] <MaXimaN> So I if disconnect the ground of the coax I get signals
[13:22] <Tjalling_PE1RQM> I have some gardening to do. Seeya guys!
[13:26] <MaXimaN> http://imgur.com/6v5ijUZ
[13:26] <MaXimaN> The yellow bands are where I am connecting the ground shielding
[13:30] <mightymik> turn down the contrast when you connect it
[13:31] <Maxell> MaXimaN: is it adding just noise or extra signal strenght too?
[13:31] <MaXimaN> Extra noise
[13:32] <MaXimaN> In effect, drowns out the signals
[13:36] <Herman-PB0AHX> i lost him now here
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[13:44] <MaXimaN> If I attach just a 1M length of coax and do the same thing, the noise decreases as I attach the shielding
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[13:45] <MaXimaN> I wonder what could cause that
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[13:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> i must go it is party time here latersssssssssss
[13:53] <mfa298> MaXimaN: certain lengths of coax can act as filters although 1m for 70cm's is unlikely to do much
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[14:18] <MaXimaN> Now if I attach the original attena and coax, I get this weird symmety: http://imgur.com/VJPDSBN
[14:18] <MaXimaN> What. The. Hell. Is. Going. On.
[14:21] <MaXimaN> Unplugging and plugging back in seemed to fix that nightmare.
[14:21] <gonzo_> looms like IQ balance
[14:21] <MaXimaN> Okay, enough of this for today.
[14:21] <gonzo_> of one chan is totally out
[14:22] <gonzo_> or
[14:22] <MaXimaN> Something seriously not right with my setup, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what the problem is. Certainly seeing static *increase* when connecting the ground shielding indicates something is very wrong.
[14:23] <gonzo_> if a program that is expecting I and Q only gets one channel, then it will look like that screen shot
[14:24] <MaXimaN> Seems that causing FCDP+ to switch filter means I can receive clearly above 440.5
[14:24] <MaXimaN> But inside the 430 to 440 filter it's just static above 434
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[14:25] <mfa298> what about below 430. If that's also got some signals it makes it sound like the 430-440 filter is bad
[14:26] <mfa298> I think there's a seperate filter for <430, 430-440, >440 in there
[14:26] <MaXimaN> Low end of the filter is fine
[14:27] <MaXimaN> The further up in that filter I go, the higher the static level
[14:28] <MaXimaN> But the 420 to 875 filter has symmetrical noise while tuning, higher in amplitude at the lower end of the filter range
[14:28] <MaXimaN> 125 to 250 filter also fine
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[14:58] <Lunar_Lander> afternoon
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[15:27] <ScottM85> afternoon
[15:27] <ScottM85> Can anybody tell me why the ntx2b has 2 rf ground pins? Would they both need to be connected?
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[15:31] <mfa298> that may depend on how your circuit it layed out.
[15:31] <mfa298> they're both connected internally, but if your connecting them to a sma socket you might find the pins fit sensibly so you can use both of them
[15:32] <ScottM85> I was going to solder it straight on after testing
[15:33] <ScottM85> I could easily split it to go to 2 pins but seems pointless if they connect internally?
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[15:33] <mfa298> if your soldering to coax then you could just use one, or you could split the the braid into two.
[15:34] <mfa298> in some designs using both ground pins might provide a better design. In others it may not matter too much
[15:34] <ScottM85> ok, I'll split it onto both pins
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[15:34] <ScottM85> does it provide a sort of shielding to the middle pin?
[15:35] <Upu> yes
[15:35] <ScottM85> ah ok
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[15:36] <ScottM85> followed your antenna design with the straws, about to try it out :)
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[17:01] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TEST - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=TEST
[17:05] <Scott85_> that antenna works great
[17:05] <Scott85_> hung the whole thing in a tree and drove down the road to see how far it would work haha
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[18:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03SPAVA - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=SPAVA
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[18:17] <Upu> 434.445 THOR 16 not DominoEx in the air now
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[18:20] <x-f> you're testing if Milky way will be bright enough? :)
[18:20] <Upu> http://imgur.com/DB3Hnr9,qPQpfVg#0
[18:20] <Upu> want to see if it can make it until the morning :)
[18:21] <Upu> and then charge
[18:22] <SpeedEvil> I prefer not to use the milky way.
[18:22] <SpeedEvil> I'd rather use Galaxy, or Starburst.
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[18:33] <Upu> ping mikestir
[18:33] <mikestir> pong
[18:33] <kf7fer> So Upu... what's the payload covered in?
[18:33] <kf7fer> kapton tape?
[18:33] <Upu> dunno if you can recieve this
[18:33] <mikestir> oh, northern trackers required?
[18:34] <Upu> aye up aye
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[18:34] <Upu> Thin packing foam, from Samtec actually and Kapton
[18:34] <mikestir> yeah got it. *fires up fldigi*
[18:34] <Upu> wonderful
[18:34] <Upu> THOR
[18:34] <fsphil> God of QRP
[18:35] <Upu> Oh Rob got it
[18:35] <fsphil> I'd be worried if he didn't
[18:35] <Upu> true
[18:36] <fsphil> it's moving away quicker than the horizon is moving towards me
[18:36] <Upu> I thought I'd filmed the laucnh
[18:36] <Upu> but I'm so good at tech it only started filming as I pressed the button intending to stop it :/
[18:37] <fsphil> don't give up the day job. oh
[18:37] <Upu> derp :)
[18:39] <fsphil> leveling off
[18:39] <Upu> nah still going up
[18:39] <Upu> just very slowly
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[18:41] <LeoBodnar> it's flying either way :D
[18:41] <Upu> yeah up is up
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[18:45] <Lunar_Lander> so how is everyone?
[18:45] <mfa298> SpeedEvil: you could also use mars
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[19:00] <qyx_> btw Upu LeoBodnar how do you solder on the back side of those solar cells?
[19:00] <Upu> carefully
[19:00] <qyx_> it is like the surface coating is melting or whatever
[19:01] <Upu> no these aren't the flexible ones
[19:01] <qyx_> no, not flexible
[19:01] <qyx_> i have to solder "very fast" or with extremely low temp
[19:02] <qyx_> otherwise the surface is no more solderable
[19:02] <Upu> never had an issue I just solder it
[19:02] <qyx_> hmm
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[19:03] <mikestir> so ARM fans - seen the new stm32f7?
[19:03] <Upu> maybe I have different cells ?
[19:05] <mattbrejza> the m0 has enough power for me atm lol
[19:05] <mattbrejza> perhaps if the arduino libraries were ported to the stm32f7 arduino users will finally get the same performance as a raw AVR
[19:05] <mikestir> lol. m7 might be interesting for video applications
[19:06] <mikestir> has enhanced DSP instructions and a cache
[19:06] <mattbrejza> yea, pico ssdv + recording program
[19:06] <mattbrejza> *tracker
[19:06] <mikestir> although I was looking at the lattice ice40 FPGAs the other day and started thinking about an ssdv payload
[19:07] <qyx_> Upu: i have these http://www.ebay.com/itm/390662551576
[19:07] <mattbrejza> not convinced an fpga is the way to go tbh
[19:08] <Upu> yeah those look like mine
[19:09] <mikestir> not sure. I'm thinking it might be the lowest power consumption solution, but it may not be worth the bother
[19:12] <LeoBodnar> yes that's right [20:01] <qyx_> i have to solder "very fast" or with extremely low temp
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[19:12] <mattbrejza> i doubt an fpga will have lower power consumption
[19:13] <LeoBodnar> ARM requires some microcontroller understanding that arduino uproots at the early stages
[19:13] <nats`> wait for M9 :p
[19:13] <nats`> slowly arm goes to x86 crap
[19:13] Action: nats` is praying for a rebirth of MIPS
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[19:16] <qyx_> LeoBodnar: weird, i wonder what material is it
[19:18] <LeoBodnar> metal deposition over ceramic/silicon
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[19:19] <LeoBodnar> so hot solder just dissolves it
[19:19] <LeoBodnar> you can lways use conductive epoxy
[19:19] <Upu> never noticed
[19:20] <LeoBodnar> even if you mopped up the metal layer
[19:20] <qyx_> have you tried it? is it okay with such high currents?
[19:20] <LeoBodnar> it is still conductive, just not solderable anymore
[19:20] <LeoBodnar> it's only a few hundred mA
[19:20] <LeoBodnar> yes i did on PowerFilms
[19:21] <mikestir> I'd love to see arduino users cope with a cache
[19:21] Action: qyx_ ebaying conductive epoxy
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[19:23] <LeoBodnar> i have emulated i8080 based microcomputer on a PIC24 recently http://leobodnar.com/balloons/files/PIC24-CPM.jpg
[19:23] <LeoBodnar> it has 64kB RAM and i8080 running at 5MHz clock
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[19:24] <LeoBodnar> i think i have bored everybody else with this
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[19:26] <qyx_> not bad at 5MHz
[19:28] <kf7fer> faster than the IMSAI 8080 we had in the computer lab at my high school. But it did have the Z80 upgrade
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[19:30] <LeoBodnar> it's aslo running USB and video generation on the same chip
[19:31] <LeoBodnar> so it's sort of AAA-powered CP/M computer
[19:31] <LeoBodnar> just need to make a keyboard of sorts
[19:32] <qyx_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161150882408
[19:32] <qyx_> suitable?
[19:34] <SpeedEvil> LeoBodnar: did you see what flea86 did?
[19:34] <kf7fer> Not that a battery powered CP/M machine isn't cool, but does that expoxy work? And heat cured?
[19:35] <SpeedEvil> http://www.fleasystems.com/flea86.html
[19:35] <SpeedEvil> kf7fer: soldering is easy
[19:35] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/results?q=solar+cell+soldering
[19:35] <SpeedEvil> 8 billion tutorials
[19:36] <kf7fer> SpeedEvil: Honestly it doesn't feel right _not_ to solder, that's why I asked
[19:36] <kf7fer> not that I tried it or anything
[19:36] <kf7fer> on solar cells at least
[19:37] <SpeedEvil> getting cells to practice on is cheap
[19:37] <kf7fer> On my list, right after some #13 guitar strings
[19:37] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400gr-6x6-polycrystalline-broken-solar-cells-about-160w-solar-power-/371030406106?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item566322b3da
[19:37] <LeoBodnar> i got mine from Farnell but if it's suitable for heat track repairs on car windows it should be ok for solar panels
[19:38] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-pcs-of-Mono-Solar-Cell-5x5-2-8w-GRADE-A-monocrystalline-cell-for-solarpanel-/271619259752?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&hash=item3f3dc4fd68
[19:39] <kf7fer> so you solder top and bottom?
[19:39] <kf7fer> or just left/right?
[19:39] <LeoBodnar> yeah i do
[19:40] <kf7fer> So doesn't the payload motion cut the amount of power the cells generate?
[19:40] <LeoBodnar> SpeedEvil i am tickled to have everything runing on one chip, and also not an FPGA
[19:40] <SpeedEvil> LeoBodnar: :)
[19:40] <LeoBodnar> i was thinking about PC/XT but that would require external RAM
[19:40] <nats`> FPGA is cheating :D
[19:40] <LeoBodnar> yep
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[19:41] <LazyLeopard> My first computer was Z80-based and ran at 4MHz. Its screen couldn't display nearly as much, either...
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[19:41] <LeoBodnar> well this PCB i have pictured has 8Mbit external RAM on it but i refuse to use it
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[19:46] <LeoBodnar> spotted two 87C51s in a 747 transponder head yesterday http://leobodnar.com/balloons/files/IMG_2536.jpg
[19:46] <LeoBodnar> http://leobodnar.com/balloons/files/IMG_2537.jpg
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[19:52] <Herman-PB0AHX_> !payload SPAVA
[19:52] <SpacenearUS> 03Herman-PB0AHX_: Payload 03SPAVA 10(39ad) 03$$SPAVA - 03PAVA THOR 16 - 03434.446 MHz USB 03DominoEX with speed 0316
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[20:01] <DL7AD> !hysplit B-64
[20:01] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03B-64 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140927-16_188670_B64.gif
[20:02] <SpeedEvil> Nother day prhaps
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[20:14] <MaXimaN> Looks like SPAVA has hit its float altitude?
[20:14] <Upu> indeed
[20:14] <Upu> !hysplit run SPAVA
[20:14] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[20:14] <MaXimaN> Just out of range for me :)
[20:14] <Upu> try it
[20:14] <Upu> THOR16 has FEC
[20:14] <MaXimaN> Switched to the rtlsdr, so not getting the fitler problems I was having with the FCDP+
[20:15] <MaXimaN> But nothing on the waterfall
[20:15] <Upu> !hysplit
[20:15] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: HYSPLIT available for: 03B-64, B-66, STS-13, VK3YT, SPAVA
[20:15] <Upu> !hysplit spava
[20:15] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: HYSPLIT for 03SPAVA - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140927-20_190529_SPAVA.gif
[20:16] <MaXimaN> Just on the edge of the blue circle
[20:16] <Upu> awesome
[20:16] <Upu> poland
[20:16] <MaXimaN> Upu: How many cells do you have hooked up?
[20:16] <MaXimaN> solar cells, that is
[20:16] <Upu> 2
[20:16] <Upu> http://imgur.com/DB3Hnr9,qPQpfVg#0
[20:17] <MaXimaN> nice
[20:17] <MaXimaN> Common or garden lipo? Or low-temp rated?
[20:17] <Upu> low temp
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[20:18] <MaXimaN> I was looking at where to source those. Seems Alibaba was the only way to go, as I couldn't find any in EU or US that would go down to -40C
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[20:25] <MaXimaN> Upu: What capacity are you using? Should be interesting to see how long it lasts into the night :)
[20:25] <Upu> 240mah
[20:27] <MaXimaN> Still a chance I might be able to pick it up once it's over the north sea, assuming it doesn't go too much further north
[20:32] <Upu> it will probably climb in the morning
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[20:34] <SA6BSS> just climbed the roof and replaced a faulty lna, so if it goes over denmark /south sweden I should be abel to hear it.
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[20:36] <Upu> should cross Denmark
[20:36] <Upu> might be just out of your range
[20:36] <Upu> 0400 UTC
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[20:44] <SA6BSS> ok, have a clear skyline to the west to south, what exact qrg is it on
[20:44] <SA6BSS> ?
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[20:55] <kf7fer> So if I want to expose the copper on a trace (using Eagle), can I simply put a line in restrict? (trestrict or brestrict depending upon layer)
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[20:57] <Upu> tStop
[20:57] <kf7fer> ah ok... or bStop?
[20:58] <Upu> yup
[20:58] <Upu> run it through EagleUp 3D so you can see it
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[21:01] <kf7fer> ok thanks
[21:01] <kf7fer> I thought I had the wrong layer... didn't seem right
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[21:21] <Lunar_Lander> good night!
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[21:22] <mfa298> heh, good name for the latest tory mp to defect to ukip.
[21:25] <murb> ah yeah i can't recall the name but i thought that at the time.
[21:25] <murb> mr utterlyunreliable as quit etc.
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[21:25] <murb> some name like that
[21:25] <murb> a h yeah mr reckless?
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[21:40] <MaXimaN> I'm sure he'll be followed by Mr Flake, Mr Flip-Flop, and Ms. Raving-Loony.
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[21:42] <mfa298> doesn't Ms. Raving-loony already have a different party (not that I remember seeing much of them for a while)
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[21:46] <MaXimaN> Who needs the Monster Raving Loony party when you have UKIP?
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[21:48] <Herman-PB0AHX_> spava very slowwwww
[21:48] <Herman-PB0AHX_> i think no wind upstairs
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[22:01] <MaXimaN> Battery holding up nicely though
[22:01] <MaXimaN> The lower altitude is probably going to spare it from the temperature extremes experienced by Leo's balloons
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