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[00:06] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YT - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VK3YT
[00:16] <mightymik> did kalel get recovered?
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[01:56] <Darkside> righto
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[03:06] <kf7fer> So if I wanted to build a little cutdown board, could I use something like a CR2025 or do I need to use a bigger battery?
[03:06] <kf7fer> I was thinking of an attiny and an ADXL345 w/ a mosfet
[03:07] <kf7fer> (to drive the mosfet for a cutdown I mean)
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[03:08] <kf7fer> well actually looking at the datasheet I guess I'd have to say no, it's too low a voltage
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[07:16] <Geoff-G8-> !flights
[07:16] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8-: Current flights: 03SUPERMAN 10(52d6), 03VR2Space01 10(b941), 03Project Horus + LaunchBox Pico Flight 10(8d50), 03XABEN81 10(3312), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe), 03B-66 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(705b), 03SP HAM's tech workshop launch  10(4de8)
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[09:37] <pd3jag> goodmorning to all
[09:41] <Upu> morning
[09:43] <SpeedEvil> Anyone happen to know where I can get short lengths - say a couple of meters - of 100um core power delivery fibre?
[09:45] <pd3jag> is there some action today??
[09:47] <Maxell> pd3jag: check the mailinglist! https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/ukhas
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[09:48] <Maxell> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/ukhas/MmXp1UGwSdI :)
[09:48] <Maxell> oh, "We've moved this forward 1 day to Friday 12th"
[09:49] <mikestir> isn't there a xaben at lunchtime>
[09:49] <mikestir> ?
[09:49] <jcoxon> yeah there is a xaben launch around 1200
[09:49] <jcoxon> with a ukhasnet node as well
[09:49] <jcoxon> aiming slow ascent and high altitude to get the most coverage
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[10:01] <MaXimaN_> Bonjour tout le monde!
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[10:04] <x-f> bonjour
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[10:04] <nats`> salut :)
[10:04] <nats`> hi
[10:04] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YT - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VK3YT
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[10:16] <RocketBoy> yo amell
[10:17] <RocketBoy> im out at elsworth today
[10:17] <RocketBoy> drop in if you want
[10:17] <RocketBoy> anyone else too
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[10:37] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03X0 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=X0
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[10:49] <Upu> !dial X0
[10:49] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03X0 10(3312): 03434.66 MHz
[10:50] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 033Z0TECH - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=3Z0TECH
[10:50] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Glad you did that the doc says 434.050
[10:52] <Upu> !dial X0
[10:52] <SpacenearUS> 03Upu: Latest dials for 03X0 10(3312): 03434.66 MHz
[10:52] <Upu> odd
[10:52] <Upu> guess we'll see
[10:54] Nick change: db_g6gzh_ -> db_g6gzh
[10:56] <db_g6gzh> Ah, I just set up on .050 and getting lots of splatter from 433.9 sensors so .66 would be better for me
[10:59] <jcoxon> i think steve was trying to keep away from the harmonic of 869.500
[10:59] <jcoxon> hence the change
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[11:06] <db_g6gzh> makes sense, I'm more interested in BALL1 this time anyway
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[11:08] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03VK3YT - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=VK3YT
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[11:22] <pd3jag> some one info about 3z0tech? freq and mode??
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[11:25] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !flight 3Z0TECH
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[11:25] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !flights
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[11:25] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !flights
[11:25] <SpacenearUS1> 03Geoff-G8DHE_: Current flights: 03SUPERMAN 10(52d6), 03VR2Space01 10(b941), 03Project Horus + LaunchBox Pico Flight 10(8d50), 03XABEN81 10(3312), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe), 03B-66 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(705b), 03SP HAM's tech workshop launch  10(4de8)
[11:26] <Geoff-G8DHE_> !flight 3Z0TECH
[11:26] <SpacenearUS1> 03Geoff-G8DHE_: Flight 10(4de8): 03SP HAM's tech workshop launch  10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 09:00 from 03Sieradz County, Poland 10(51.4701,18.851)
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[11:27] <jcoxon> all the payloads for X0+UKHASnet are online
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[11:30] Nick change: Randomskk_ -> adamgreig
[11:31] <arjunn> !flights
[11:31] <SpacenearUS> 03arjunn: Current flights: 03SUPERMAN 10(52d6), 03VR2Space01 10(b941), 03Project Horus + LaunchBox Pico Flight 10(8d50), 03XABEN81 10(3312), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe), 03B-66 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(705b), 03SP HAM's tech workshop launch  10(4de8)
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[11:46] <Geoff-G8DHE_> XABEN81 away
[11:47] <MaXimaN> Yep!
[11:47] <MaXimaN> 434.66?
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[11:51] Action: MaXimaN waits for signs of life on the waterfall
[11:51] <Brian-G0HDI> Me too
[11:52] <Brian-G0HDI> Didn't decode a thing yesterday *sigh*
[11:52] <MaXimaN> MOst people didn't
[11:52] <MaXimaN> Which was odd
[11:52] <MaXimaN> !dial X0
[11:52] <SpacenearUS> 03MaXimaN: Latest dials for 03X0 10(3312): 03434.66 MHz, 434052.08 MHz
[11:52] <mikestir> that was good timing. just had the mast down to re-rig the hf antenna
[11:53] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Its apparently .050
[11:53] <Brian-G0HDI> Moved again!
[11:56] <Upu> so whats it on 434.050 ?
[11:56] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Yes
[11:56] <MaXimaN> Yes, I can hear it there now too
[11:56] <Geoff-G8DHE_> so they say onukhasnet
[11:57] <MaXimaN> Well
[11:57] <MaXimaN> I hear one tone on there
[11:58] <mikestir> that's interesting - I've got one tone on there as well
[11:58] <mikestir> but I'm still way out of range so it's not coming from xaben
[11:59] <MaXimaN> I am getting some truly evil QRM here today
[12:00] <Geoff-G8DHE_> I've got one tone as well but its 100KHz wide :(
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[12:00] <Darkside> vk5ei: evening
[12:00] <Darkside> vk5ei: VK5QI here
[12:00] <Brian-G0HDI> Me too. Pulse every 6 seconds of something
[12:01] <mikestir> 6 seconds will be currentcost
[12:01] <MaXimaN> QRM heaven
[12:01] <MaXimaN> http://imgur.com/XGCmzcJ
[12:02] <Brian-G0HDI> Inside the blue, nohing on phones yet
[12:02] <MaXimaN> Nothing here either yet
[12:03] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/2014_Flights/XABEN81_20140913/Screenshot-2014-09-13-130147.jpg
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[12:04] <DutchMillbt> !dial X0
[12:04] <SpacenearUS> 03DutchMillbt: Latest dials for 03X0 10(3312): 03434.66 MHz
[12:04] <Geoff-G8DHE_> FAIL its 434.050
[12:04] <Geoff-G8DHE_> last minute change
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[12:05] <DutchMillbt> Aha thankz Geoff
[12:05] <arjunn> !dail X0
[12:05] <Upu> 434.050
[12:05] <arjunn> !dial X0
[12:05] <SpacenearUS> 03arjunn: Latest dials for 03X0 10(3312): 03434.66 MHz, 434052.08 MHz
[12:05] <Upu> ignore it
[12:05] <Upu> its changed
[12:05] <arjunn> Okay, will do
[12:06] <MaXimaN> Okay, I near it
[12:06] <MaXimaN> ABout 3khz up
[12:06] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The payload also talks on UKHASNET http://www.ukhas.net/nodeInfo?id=58
[12:06] <DutchMillbt> g' middag Maxell
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[12:07] <Brian-G0HDI> Hearing feintly on .054
[12:07] <MaXimaN> Yep
[12:08] <Brian-G0HDI> W/F too
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[12:12] <MaXimaN> Still too feint for me
[12:14] <vk5ei> hello vk5qi
[12:14] <Brian-G0HDI> Seems to be fading instead of growing stronger at the moment
[12:15] <Brian-G0HDI> Maybe behind the power station chimney?
[12:16] <Brian-G0HDI> Gone now
[12:16] <Upu> signal is weak, lots of QRM down there and 150 baud
[12:17] <MaXimaN> Seems even G8KNN is having difficulty receiving, and they're only a few miles away
[12:17] <mikestir> just showing up here. weak
[12:18] Nick change: mikestir -> mikestir_M0MKS
[12:18] <MaXimaN> Getting stronger now
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[12:22] <MaXimaN> ...or not
[12:23] <MaXimaN> Previous XABEN flights have come through loud and clear by now
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[12:24] <Upu> wonder if it has damaged antenna
[12:25] <pd3jag> freq???
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[12:25] <MaXimaN> 434.054
[12:25] <Geoff-G8DHE_> seeing it but only by refraction of the Downs
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[12:25] <pd3jag> tnx maximaN
[12:25] <Geoff-G8DHE_> its a much slower climb than normal
[12:25] <Brian-G0HDI> Feint spurts of tramlines. Wonder if it's spinning?
[12:31] <Brian-G0HDI> Is the antenna vertical or crossed dipole, I wonder.
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[12:33] <Rebounder> !flight x0
[12:33] <SpacenearUS> 03Rebounder: Flight 10(3312): 03XABEN81 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 11:00 from 03Cambridgeshire, UK 10(52.2511,-0.0927)
[12:33] <Rebounder> fq for x0?
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[12:34] <Brian-G0HDI> 434.054
[12:34] <Rebounder> thanks
[12:34] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Right starting to decode now
[12:34] <chimpusmaximus> X0 - 434.050MHz 150baud, 600Hz FSK 7N1 ASCII
[12:35] <mikestir_M0MKS> seems to be getting weaker here!
[12:36] <Brian-G0HDI> Back with me but too weak to decode yet
[12:36] <MaXimaN> Okay, have it much louder here
[12:36] <MaXimaN> Still fading
[12:36] <MaXimaN> But decoding garbage
[12:37] <chrisg7ogx> freq moving up fast?
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[12:37] <Geoff-G8DHE_> not for me
[12:38] <mikestir_M0MKS> me neither. bit wobbly but not bad
[12:38] <chrisg7ogx> oh dear!
[12:38] <MaXimaN> 7N1?
[12:39] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Yup
[12:39] Nick change: Geoff-G8DHE_ -> Geoff-G8DHE
[12:39] <MaXimaN> ~~~o~w~{~~~{~|w~~z}~~?mm~~?~~z|~o_~?{~z~{}~|~~{{~{o~{~x~~~~{w~_o
[12:39] <Brian-G0HDI> Still .054 steady...Or was, I just lost it again Flip!
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[12:40] <pd3jag> no copy here , pfff
[12:40] <Maxell> DutchMillbt: mogguh
[12:40] <Maxell> XABEN81? :)
[12:41] <Maxell> !payload XABEN81
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[12:41] <Geoff-G8DHE> callsign X0
[12:41] <Maxell> !payload X0
[12:41] <SpacenearUS> 03Maxell: Payload 03X0 10(3312) 03$$X0 - 03434.05 MHz USB 03RTTY 150/600Hz ASCII-7 none 1
[12:41] <pd3jag> hey dutch jij al wa gehoord?
[12:42] <MaXimaN> $$X0,1931,12:42:03,52.29602,04
[12:42] <Maxell> pd3jag: 434.005 MHz USB hier nog leeg
[12:42] <MaXimaN> Getting there
[12:43] <Maxell> uh derp qrg is 434.05 MHz
[12:43] <Maxell> also empty
[12:43] <MaXimaN> The fading in an out is killing any chance of decoding right now
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[12:44] <mikestir_M0MKS> it's the continual qrm that's killing it here
[12:44] <MaXimaN> Well, the baud is high enough for packets to skip through... if they didn't fade
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[12:45] <Geoff-G8DHE> Yea Green!
[12:45] <MaXimaN> Congrats :)
[12:45] <MaXimaN> Distance/ele?
[12:46] <Geoff-G8DHE> 9Km wow something is different had to wait till really LoS
[12:47] <jcoxon_> might be the ukhasnet node
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[12:47] <jcoxon_> though unlikely
[12:47] <MaXimaN> I think it's an antenna issue
[12:47] <jcoxon_> as an update we have now got 2 stations rxing BALL1
[12:47] <MaXimaN> Fading in and out, but very loud when facing the right direction :)
[12:48] <Brian-G0HDI> Coming back now, partial decoding
[12:48] <PH3V> Na het fiasco van gisteren ... 5 payloads no sig ... vandaag weer niets. Denk dat we die Engelsen een antennecursus moeten gaan geven ;-)
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[12:48] <Herman-PB0AHX> !dail xo
[12:48] <MaXimaN> Herman-PB0AHX: 434.054
[12:49] <Herman-PB0AHX> tnx
[12:49] <craag_philcrump> !whereis X0
[12:49] <SpacenearUS> 03craag_philcrump: 03X0 is over 03Cambridgeshire, UK 10(52.30939,-0.21628) at 0310011 meters
[12:50] <Geoff-G8DHE> Odd freq shift
[12:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> MaXimaN: i hrd nill here
[12:50] <pc1pcl_> Not seeing anything here yet either
[12:50] <MaXimaN> Herman: Reception problems for everyone :(
[12:50] <Herman-PB0AHX> ok
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[12:52] <Herman-PB0AHX> i hrd someting but weekley
[12:54] <bertrik> I see the signal on the waterfall, but not decoding yet
[12:54] <PH3V> Same here @1500Hz, no dec
[12:54] <jcoxon_> what filter width are people using?
[12:54] <mightymik> like kalel from yesterday
[12:54] <Herman-PB0AHX> same here
[12:55] <Herman-PB0AHX> auto configure is ok ?
[12:55] <bertrik> jcoxon_: I just put it on 'auto'
[12:55] <jcoxon_> might be worth increasing your filters, don't use auto
[12:56] <bertrik> auto = 150 Hz for X0
[12:56] <RocketBoy> try a bit wider - i use 250
[12:56] <RocketBoy> but 200 should be ok
[12:57] <PH3V> bad checksum: $$XIvTL....
[12:58] <chrisg7ogx> $X0,2167,12:57:47,5232138,-0.1"01
[12:58] <MaXimaN> $$X0T;\Y:57:59,52.32165,-0.15762,11552,1.1,11*B
[12:58] <chrisg7ogx> terrible signals
[12:58] <chrisg7ogx> spinning or buffeted?
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[12:59] <mikestir_M0MKS> fading is very regular so presumably spinning
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[13:00] <MaXimaN> This is what I'm seeing: http://imgur.com/wI2Uo19
[13:00] <Brian-G0HDI> Does thaqt mean he antenna is horizontal polarized then?
[13:00] <MaXimaN> Between the fading and qrmageddon I'm having no luck
[13:01] <Herman-PB0AHX> E$$X0,2214,13:00:55,52.32311,-0.12y,1q(2u.1,1q<=?+SW+K+#K3Kk&l$$X
[13:01] <MaXimaN> $$X0,2222,13:01:27,52.32348l?p.tb3%Y173,1.1,11*64A8
[13:01] <jcoxon_> looks like spin
[13:02] <jcoxon_> it might settle a bit once it gets higher
[13:02] <craag_philcrump> !whereis X0
[13:02] <SpacenearUS> 03craag_philcrump: 03X0 is over 03Cambridgeshire, UK 10(52.3248,-0.11179) at 0312361 meters
[13:02] <chrisg7ogx> MaXimaN that's quite good copy by today's standards!
[13:02] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://tinyurl.com/pruncar
[13:03] <chrisg7ogx> maybe something tangled up
[13:04] <Geoff-G8DHE> Occasional freq. hiccups
[13:04] <gonzo_> 434.05478 centra of data
[13:05] <Upu> did the antenna take a knock jcoxon_ ?
[13:06] <jcoxon_> i'm not actually there
[13:06] <Upu> ok
[13:06] <jcoxon_> but i don't think so
[13:06] <jcoxon_> its a coax dipole
[13:06] <jcoxon_> according to RocketBoy
[13:06] <chrisg7ogx> lol
[13:06] <chrisg7ogx> jcoxon you're not onboard?
[13:07] <MaXimaN> $$X0,2222,13:01:27,52.32348l?p.tb3%Y173,1.1,11*64A8
[13:07] <MaXimaN> So close
[13:07] <mikestir_M0MKS> it perked up for a bit here but just as someone decided to drive a spark-gap transmitter down the road
[13:07] <jcoxon_> chrisg7ogx: hope you aren't disappointed! (also i wasn't at the launch site)
[13:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ah aerial is aco-ax dipole here is one of the pctiures https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2sJ6cUJZIiFT01meHpENlUtd28/edit
[13:08] <Upu> $$X0,2222,13:01:27,52.32348,X.q ,Y173,1.1,11*64A8
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[13:08] <Upu> could probably fix that... :)
[13:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> I wonder if the lower part is whippng around as its not stiffened at all ?
[13:08] <Upu> ooo got a green
[13:08] <chrisg7ogx> that solves ittangled in trainers then..
[13:09] <chrisg7ogx> probs with my FCD pro I think..freq slipping downwards now
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[13:10] <whiteg6> !flights
[13:10] <SpacenearUS> 03whiteg6: Current flights: 03SUPERMAN 10(52d6), 03VR2Space01 10(b941), 03Project Horus + LaunchBox Pico Flight 10(8d50), 03XABEN81 10(3312), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe), 03B-66 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(705b), 03SP HAM's tech workshop launch  10(4de8)
[13:10] <MaXimaN> whiteg6: 434.054
[13:10] <whiteg6> Ta!
[13:11] <chrisg7ogx> reckon you're right Geoff..how long between balloon and capsule?
[13:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> no idea Rocketboy put the pictures up on #ukhasnet
[13:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> two payloads X0 and BALL1 on ukhasnet channel
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[13:18] <MaXimaN> I can only assuming it's swaying about up there
[13:19] <MaXimaN> I've only seen fading like that on descents when the payload is spinning
[13:19] <RocketBoy> there is about 7m between them
[13:19] <Geoff-G8DHE> the payloads look very light and the balloon is 2000g so scope for lots of swayin I guess
[13:19] <db_g6gzh> X0 is an import from habitat to the ukhasnet map to show the position but BALL1 is a ukhasnet node
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[13:25] <mightymik> kal-el yesterday was a lot like this
[13:25] <jcoxon_> solar storm? :-p
[13:25] <mightymik> ya... sunspots. that it
[13:25] <MaXimaN> Aliens. It has to be.
[13:29] <Brian-G0HDI> The ' Borg' maybe assimilated it
[13:31] <jcoxon_> after a 34 minute gap BALL1 is back
[13:32] <MaXimaN> Cool
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[13:40] <PE2G> Herman-PB0AHX: What AFC speed are you using?
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[13:40] <tweetBot> @M6EDF: Solar http://t.co/q1wVao46dx node looking out for BALL1 #ukhas http://t.co/2PswSpjhBM
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[13:47] <bertrik> PE2G: I put it on fast (but haven't had a successful decode yet, only partial ones)
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[13:49] <PE2G> bertrik: Tnx. I've got only 3 greens at 0 deg elevation, now all reds again
[13:50] <MaXimaN> Now at 21km
[13:50] <bertrik> on the waterfall I see two rather thin lines, I'd expect more wide one because of the higher baud rate
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[13:57] <fox123> please how frequency and mode ---"X0"
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[13:57] <lz1dev_> !payload x0
[13:57] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev_: Payload 03X0 10(3312) 03$$X0 - 03434.05 MHz USB 03RTTY 150/600Hz ASCII-7 none 1
[13:57] <pc1pcl_> 434.054
[13:58] <fox123> tnx 73
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[14:01] <Maxell> pc1pcl: anything there?
[14:04] <jcoxon_> is anyone within say 50km of hte balloon got a sdr that they can tune to 869.500 and have a look for BALL1 signal
[14:04] <jcoxon_> trying to work out if its drifted
[14:05] <jcoxon_> which is why we aren't rxing it
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[14:12] <pc1pcl> Maxwell just to thin sinuses on the Waterfall.
[14:12] <ron_G8FJG> jcoxon is it a continuious transmission?
[14:13] <jcoxon_> no its short packets every 30seconds
[14:14] <jcoxon_> (i appreciate that its hard to see)
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03TT7 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=TT7
[14:14] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03TT7 after 0314 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=TT7
[14:15] <ron_G8FJG> 869.512
[14:15] <jcoxon_> ron_G8FJG: screenshot?
[14:15] <ron_G8FJG> just a short peep about 3khz wide
[14:16] <chrisstubbs> and how calibrated is the SDR?
[14:16] <ron_G8FJG> dont know how to....old bloke
[14:16] <ron_G8FJG> ok for sat trans missions
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[14:16] <jcoxon_> its got a 2.4khz shift
[14:16] <ron_G8FJG> can hear the beep every ...will time it
[14:18] <ron_G8FJG> 30 secs on the dot
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[14:18] <ron_G8FJG> only a few msec long
[14:18] <PA3WEG> !dial X0
[14:18] <SpacenearUS> 03PA3WEG: Latest dials for 03X0 10(3312): 03434052.58 MHz, 432.412 MHz
[14:19] <ron_G8FJG> 434.053
[14:19] <jcoxon_> ron_G8FJG: that sounds like it then
[14:19] <craag_philcrump> jcoxon_: Nope, 24khz shift
[14:19] <craag_philcrump> ron_G8FJG: ^^
[14:19] <jcoxon_> oh oops
[14:19] <ron_G8FJG> its not that wide
[14:19] <craag_philcrump> the side of it will be narrow
[14:19] <craag_philcrump> there should be another side ~24khz away
[14:20] <craag_philcrump> it's only 2kbps
[14:20] <craag_philcrump> so .512 is to be expected
[14:20] <ron_G8FJG> haven't got antenna for that freq, I'll turn the main one that way
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[14:21] <craag_philcrump> ron_G8FJG: Can you see another at 869.487?
[14:21] <ron_G8FJG> yes thought it was an alias
[14:21] <craag_philcrump> that's the other side of the FSK :)
[14:21] <ron_G8FJG> its on 869.489
[14:22] <craag_philcrump> Sounds nominal to me
[14:22] <ron_G8FJG> just using a FCD and a stick
[14:23] <craag_philcrump> Weird we aren't rxing it on the ground
[14:23] <ron_G8FJG> 96 km from me
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[14:28] <ron_G8FJG> cant put main antennas to use, all have selective lnas in cct ..DOH
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[14:30] <SpeedEvil> http://cargocollective.com/libbyandlucy/Marmite-Toothpaste (not strictly on-topic)
[14:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> craag_philcrump, Just tried your tracker in FF32 and it crashes FF, loads map, loads stations then crunch.
[14:31] <ron_G8FJG> what code?.....software decoder available?
[14:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> ffv32.01 to be precise
[14:31] <craag_philcrump> Geoff-G8DHE: Oh? No changes the last month at least
[14:31] <craag_philcrump> Works here
[14:31] <Geoff-G8DHE> Odd let me clear my caches
[14:33] <Geoff-G8DHE> Nope crashing each time odd
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[14:34] <craag_philcrump> Geoff-G8DHE: Ah, triggered it here
[14:34] <craag_philcrump> Hard Crash :O
[14:34] <Geoff-G8DHE> yup! thats it
[14:34] <craag_philcrump> Yeah nothing I can do to debug that...
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[14:35] <craag_philcrump> reported with my email address - hopefully they follow it up
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[14:36] <Geoff-G8DHE> OK lets hope they can see what it is
[14:36] <craag_philcrump> crash report doesn't tell me anything useful :/
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[14:38] <ron_G8FJG> try her screen shot might work http://i.imgur.com/8e3SS1Q.png
[14:39] <ron_G8FJG> old bloke trying hard!
[14:39] <craag_philcrump> ron_G8FJG: That's definitely a ukhasnet packet :)
[14:39] <Maxell> craag_philcrump: hmm Might also hook something up here
[14:40] <ron_G8FJG> thats on a 1/4 wave 70cms stick on top of shack
[14:40] <craag_philcrump> cool
[14:40] <ron_G8FJG> like aprs? ax25 or something else?
[14:41] <craag_philcrump> ron_G8FJG: It's our own protocol, see http://ukhas.net/
[14:41] <craag_philcrump> Incoming packet feed is on: http://www.ukhas.net/logtail
[14:43] <ron_G8FJG> ok I'll look later, got to rustle up the saturday curry, with beers numerious.
[14:44] <ron_G8FJG> noticed every couple of mins get a different two tone beep off timing
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[14:46] <ron_G8FJG> afk
[14:46] <craag_philcrump> Thanks ron_G8FJG !
[14:46] <bertrik> X0 seems to be slowing down ascent
[14:47] <Maxell> craag_philcrump: on 868,5 MHz USB: http://i.sigio.nl/e3733597fac9b6c7baf1a100fa0901eb.png
[14:47] <Maxell> However This is not every 30 seconds.
[14:49] <MaXimaN> Could be z-wave traffic?
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[14:51] <craag_philcrump> Maxell: Could be anything really, looks a bit narrow?
[14:51] <craag_philcrump> how wide is the tone seperation
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[15:04] <Lunar_Lander> afternoon
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[15:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> Ohh its gone stable X0
[15:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> no qsb flutter or anything great signal
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[15:15] <PE2BZ> !payload x0
[15:15] <SpacenearUS> 03PE2BZ: Payload 03X0 10(3312) 03$$X0 - 03434.05 MHz USB 03RTTY 150/600Hz ASCII-7 none 1
[15:18] <Maxell> craag_philcrump: not sure, 12,5 kHz?
[15:18] <Maxell> Not at RX right now, too weak anyway...
[15:23] <RocketBoy> yay
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[15:51] <PA0RPA> what is the transmittinf frequency of X0 ? I do not hear him in Holland
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[15:52] <PH3V> 434.052.5 Mhz
[15:52] <PH3V> RTTY 150 Baud
[15:53] <PA0RPA> Hear nothing there Rene
[15:53] <PH3V> No copy today Rob. Just like yesterday ...very very weak signals..
[15:54] <PH3V> Rgr Rob
[15:55] <PA0RPA> Thanks, may be some help from radio amateurs for them in designing a good antenna ??
[15:55] <PE1ANS> Hoi Rob
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[15:55] <PA0RPA> Hoi Jan
[15:55] <PH3V> You got a point
[15:56] <PA0RPA> Hope they will see this chat...
[15:56] <PE1ANS> Jammer ,,,helaas gesprongen ,,,, was erg zacht ,,, ook geen goede decode ...
[15:56] <PA0RPA> Morgen een echte ballon.........
[15:57] <PE1ANS> hopelijk wel ja ,,, maar die pool doet het ook nog erg goed
[15:57] <PH3V> But no RTTY 70cm on board Rob
[15:57] <PA0RPA> In Holland wel te verstaan...
[15:57] <PA0RPA> No, ATV , and a repeater !
[15:58] <PH3V> From now we point our antenna's to the East .. Poland
[15:58] <PE1ANS> we zullen zien hoever diekomt hihi
[15:58] <PH3V> Right!
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[15:58] <PH3V> 3 km
[15:58] <PA0RPA> ok , still out of range What is their frequency ?
[15:58] <PH3V> Dunno ..
[15:59] <PH3V> Anyone?
[16:00] <PA0RPA> Is it a good idea to put the transmitting frequency on the tab of the balloon on the website ??????
[16:01] <PH3V> Very good idea!
[16:01] <Geoff-G8DHE> No because it sometimes changes at the last minute so its better to ask in here!
[16:02] <PE1ANS> I agree
[16:03] <PA0RPA> Oity.....
[16:03] <pc1pcl> !dial 3Z0TECH
[16:03] <PA0RPA> Pitty....
[16:03] <SpacenearUS> 03pc1pcl: Latest dials for 033Z0TECH 10(4de8): 03437600 MHz, 437.601 MHz, 145093.88 MHz
[16:03] <Geoff-G8DHE> It happened this afternoon X0 was documented to be on 434.66 but changed after the Doc was created to 434.05 it was only corrected when some one with admin auth. heard it and had time to change which was about 2 hours into the flight!
[16:04] <PE1ANS> Tnx info
[16:04] <PH3V> 3z0tech heading North-East Rob
[16:05] <PA0RPA> Thnx , is indeed difficult, I understand this.
[16:05] <PA3WEG> Hi All
[16:07] <PH3V> Hi
[16:07] <PA3WEG> X0 does not show up in the flight stats, anyone know why?
[16:07] <PA3WEG> no flight docs? other name
[16:07] <PA3WEG> ?
[16:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> XABEN81
[16:07] <PH3V> Trees!
[16:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flight XABEN81
[16:07] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Can't find a flight doc matching your query
[16:07] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flights
[16:07] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Current flights: 03SUPERMAN 10(52d6), 03VR2Space01 10(b941), 03Project Horus + LaunchBox Pico Flight 10(8d50), 03XABEN81 10(3312), 03B-64 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(3afe), 03B-66 434.500 Contestia 64/1000 10(705b), 03SP HAM's tech workshop launch  10(4de8)
[16:08] <PH3V> Landed
[16:08] <Geoff-G8DHE> !flight 3312
[16:08] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Flight 10(3312): 03XABEN81 10(1 payload) - Launch date 03Today at 11:00 from 03Cambridgeshire, UK 10(52.2511,-0.0927)
[16:09] <Geoff-G8DHE> !payload X0
[16:09] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Payload 03X0 10(3312) 03$$X0 - 03434.05 MHz USB 03RTTY 150/600Hz ASCII-7 none 1
[16:10] <PA3WEG> OK, I did already use the bot, but do not know how to link a flight to a payload. i.e. clustering multiple payloads on one flight etc
[16:10] <PA3WEG> probably RTFM on my side though...
[16:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> we are all getting used to it! instructions
[16:11] <Geoff-G8DHE> !wiki irc bot
[16:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Wiki page 03spacenearus_irc_bot - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/spacenearus_irc_bot
[16:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Wiki page 03circuits (ideas) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/ideas:circuits
[16:11] <SpacenearUS> 03Geoff-G8DHE: Wiki page 03irc_channel (ukhas) - 12http://ukhas.org.uk/ukhas:irc_channel
[16:11] <PA3WEG> I really like !dial
[16:11] <PA3WEG> apart for the fact it is actually called dial
[16:12] <PA3WEG> but it serves its purpose, saves you from asking
[16:12] <PA3WEG> I tried tracking X0, but had to leave the house. unfortunately, nothing decoded
[16:12] <Geoff-G8DHE> All tks to lz1dev !
[16:13] <PH3V> !payload 3z0tech
[16:13] <SpacenearUS> 03PH3V: Payload 033Z0TECH 10(4de8) 03$$3Z0TECH - 03437.6 MHz USB 03RTTY 100/600Hz ASCII-7 none 1.5
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[16:13] <PE1ANS> Tnx for info
[16:14] <PA3WEG> it looks like some ¨ballonvossenjachters¨ have found this IRC again
[16:15] <PH3V> :-)
[16:16] <Lunar_Lander> cool!
[16:16] <PA3WEG> I am tracking tomorrow, will try to put this IRC channel up as well
[16:16] <PA3WEG> I will let you guys know the video stream URL
[16:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> :)
[16:17] <PA3WEG> as last year, I intend to stream, with the balloon video, also the transponder audio
[16:17] <PH3V> would be great!
[16:19] <PA3WEG> this year, I also contacted the organisers, they should be aware of the stream and I will also be relaying the video to the local ATV repeater for further distribution. But all best effort.
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[16:27] <PE1ANS> X0 crew,, tnx for flight,, Unfortunately no decode,, till next time ,, 73's Jan
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[16:40] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03JFS2 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=JFS2
[16:41] Nick change: KingJ_ -> KingJ
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[17:05] <cm13g09> It's OK SpacenearUS....
[17:05] <cm13g09> I managed to break a server in a way that was non-obvious.....
[17:05] <cm13g09> taken me an hour and a bit to fix!
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[17:09] <x-f> !hysplit 3z0tech
[17:09] <SpacenearUS> 03x-f: No HYSPLIT for that callsign
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[17:12] <x-f> fine, i'll do it myself..
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[17:16] <x-f> it's moving veery slowly to the south of Lithuania - http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/142500_trj001.gif
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[17:20] <aadamson> x-f, when you gen a hysplit you want to use AMSL not AGL (unless you want to adjust the altitude which is above sea level to above ground level)
[17:21] <lz1dev> !hysplit run 3z0%
[17:21] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[17:23] <lz1dev> !hysplit 3z0tech
[17:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT for 033Z0TECH - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140913-17_142525_3Z0TECH.gif
[17:23] <aadamson> lz1dev, that hysplit is using AGL too?
[17:24] <lz1dev> yep
[17:24] <aadamson> so you correct for that?
[17:24] <aadamson> usually gps altitude is ASL
[17:24] <x-f> aadamson, ok, noted, but that part of Europe is pretty flat anyway
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[17:26] <lz1dev> adamgreig: the altitude plot is always AGL
[17:26] <lz1dev> not sure about the altitude input
[17:27] <lz1dev> will check in a momement
[17:27] <aadamson> yes I know
[17:27] <aadamson> but I was looking at the end of the source 1 line in the bottom
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[17:27] <aadamson> when you select AMSL, it goesn't show AGL... but now I'm going to have to go do one just to remember
[17:29] <aadamson> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/142578_trj001.gif - this would be the result of a regular one ran with altitude input at AMSL - http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/142578_trj001.gif
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[17:33] <lz1dev> you linked the same gif twice :)
[17:34] <aadamson> ah double paste as I didn't realize I had pasted it in the beginning...
[17:35] <aadamson> and so from that, you'd say that ground is approx 107m high as that's the difference from 7500 and 7393 for example
[17:36] Action: SpacenearUS is going for a nap.
[17:38] Last message repeated 2 time(s).
[17:38] <cm13g09> SpacenearUS: wake up!
[17:38] Action: cm13g09 mutters something about bot ops....
[17:38] <lz1dev> its gone
[17:38] <lz1dev> rip
[17:41] Action: SpacenearUS is back!
[17:42] Action: SpacenearUS got confused... send help
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[17:44] <Flerb_> Ohohdearohdearohdear
[17:44] <Flerb_> I just feel like my face should be constantly attached to my palm
[17:44] <Flerb_> My granddad found this on the internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG5cEik2ABY
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[17:59] <lz1dev> !hysplit run 3z0%
[17:59] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
[18:01] <lz1dev> !hysplit 3z0tech
[18:01] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT for 033Z0TECH - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140913-17_142681_3Z0TECH.gif
[18:03] <lz1dev> !hysplit rerun
[18:03] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Running HYSPLIT jobs for all defaults. Hold on to your hats
[18:03] <cm13g09> lz1dev: geesh....
[18:03] <cm13g09> was that necessary?
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[18:04] <lz1dev> yes i wanna see the difference :)
[18:05] <lz1dev> !hysplit add 3z0tech
[18:05] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Added 033z0tech to defaults
[18:05] <lz1dev> !hysplit defaults
[18:05] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT defaults: 03b-%, ps, vx-20, 3z0tech
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[18:16] <Rebounder> vary stable preds for 3Z ;)
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[18:33] <amell> rocketboy launched today? thought there was a closure on notams
[18:36] <daveake> A quick check of notaminfo reveals that you're wrong
[18:36] <amell> weve had a lot of classic planes flying around at low level today
[18:36] <amell> duxford show.
[18:37] <amell> and i am going tomorrow to see twin lancasters :)
[18:37] <daveake> He has a notam / they're aware of it / Steve has to call ATC to launch so no issue
[18:37] <amell> yeah, just that i think someone else was refused. anyway.
[18:38] <daveake> no, someone else wasn't given permission
[18:38] <daveake> different thing altogether
[18:38] <daveake> they probably didn't chase
[18:38] <amell> oh i see
[18:45] <jcoxon> did steve manage to recover the payload?
[18:45] <daveake> Not seen any news
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[18:51] <amell> yes looks like he probably did. theres a ground fix on the map. as long as it wasnt up a tall tree.
[18:52] <daveake> He got a fix, but it's in a wood. Can't tell from that if he got it or not
[18:52] <amell> its right on the edge of the wood.
[18:53] <jcoxon> i'll text him
[18:53] <daveake> Edge? Middle.
[18:53] <amell> whats the swiggling next to the road?
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[18:54] <jcoxon> haha
[18:54] <amell> dont understand that.
[18:55] <amell> squiggles at 16.15, then it jumps at 16.30
[18:55] <amell> hopefully we will get an explanation now :)
[18:55] <Upu> I have a plan
[18:55] <jcoxon> oh i'm laughing as RocketBoy appeared and i had just texted him
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[18:55] <Upu> Steve did you recover the payload ?
[18:55] <daveake> Yes he did :)
[18:55] <daveake> coolio
[18:55] <amell> rocketboy: hey, missed your msg earlier, was out all day at midland sky.
[18:55] <Upu> super
[18:55] <Upu> case closed
[18:56] <amell> what i dont get is why did the payload jump across the wood after 15 mins
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[19:01] <RocketBoy> amell - it was a good (but long) day
[19:01] <RocketBoy> the flight went on longer than I expected - almost a float
[19:02] <amell> would have popped over if i was around. midland sky a bit of a trek.
[19:02] <RocketBoy> but not quite
[19:02] <RocketBoy> np
[19:02] <RocketBoy> were you commenting on the landing jumps
[19:02] <amell> yep.
[19:03] <RocketBoy> cant really comment on them - perhaps becuse I laid the payloads on the ground for a bit and sat lock got shaky
[19:04] <amell> ah, that must be it.
[19:05] <RocketBoy> it all landed in a tree
[19:06] <RocketBoy> but the bottom payload was hanging down - just managed to jump and catch the entenna
[19:06] <RocketBoy> pulled botth payloads down Ok but then I snapped the 1.5mm nylon line
[19:07] <amell> get the chute back ok?
[19:07] <RocketBoy> the chute was stuck in the tree for a bit - but then it fell down of its own accord - simples
[19:07] <amell> cool. sounds a lot easier than the superman recovery!
[19:08] <RocketBoy> I think it was becuse I had got the telescopic ples out by that time - and it must of got scared
[19:08] <RocketBoy> poles
[19:09] <amell> any trouble with ATC? there were a lot of low flying planes this afternoon.
[19:09] <amell> spitfires and whatnot.
[19:17] <RocketBoy> not really
[19:18] <RocketBoy> they rang at the start of the day - they usually do on display days
[19:18] <RocketBoy> then they just asked to be kept informed when I was about to launch
[19:19] <RocketBoy> and again when it was launched
[19:19] <RocketBoy> nothing unusual - I have to ring Bourn anyway
[19:21] <daveake> We had some police and ambulance helicopters around before launch yesterday - head-on accident half a mile down the road from here
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[19:21] <daveake> All gone a while before we launched
[19:22] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: Partial success of BALL1 (UKHASnet Node Test Flight) with repeated packet at 558m altitude and highest downlinked packet at 16952m #ukhas
[19:23] <gonzo_> I had a lancaster fly over my house a couple of times this afternoon
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[19:23] <amell> gonzo_: just one lancaster?
[19:24] <gonzo_> apparemtly it was due at the bournemouth airshow last weekend, but didn't appear for some tech reason
[19:24] <tweetBot> @jamescoxon: Suspect the radio struggled with the cold - needs more work... ongoing discussion on #ukhasnet on freenode #ukhas
[19:24] <gonzo_> poss it is now going and they were heading home, or testing
[19:24] <amell> gonzo_: there is one over from canada, i thought it was flying today. Yes, one of the engines had to be replaced.
[19:24] <amell> I thought they fixed it, just checking
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[19:25] <gonzo_> I think the one that was due here was part of the royal flight
[19:26] <amell> just checked, they were going to goodwood and back.
[19:26] <amell> would have been 4-6pm
[19:27] <gonzo_> 4pm may be about right
[19:27] <gonzo_> or 1600gmt closer to the mark
[19:28] <amell> they are both in bournemouth at the moment.
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[19:32] <gonzo_> ah, nice
[19:35] <gonzo_> even over the noise of the lawn mower, 4x merlins are un-mistakable
[19:35] <amell> should have been 8 :)
[19:36] <gonzo_> only saw the one. Two, I'm not sure my system would cope
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[19:42] <amell> gonzo_: hows this for a merlin low pass? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOoiEbtf2w
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[19:43] <gonzo_> I would probably have said something similar
[19:44] <gonzo_> 70yrs on, they still look absolutly stunning
[19:44] <gonzo_> and coming at you like that, very menacing
[19:45] <amell> thats how ray hanna flew the spit. i recall him flying one through the pit lane at goodwood once. they went ballistic.
[19:47] <Rebounder> is there some info on the layers done by hyplist on spacenearus? quite a lot of preds and for 3z* they are very different
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[20:06] <cm13g09> mfa298__: ping
[20:06] <cm13g09> mfa298: ping
[20:08] <lz1dev> Rebounder: it creates a box around the latest position, and each point is a separate trajectory
[20:08] <lz1dev> essentually you get prediction for slightly lower alt, slighly higher, slighly west.. east... north etc
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[20:10] <lz1dev> !hysplit defaults
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT defaults: 03b-%, 3z0tech
[20:10] <lz1dev> !hysplit run 3z0%
[20:10] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Your job has been added to the queue. Check in a few minutes
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[20:13] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03G6MDG_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=G6MDG_chase
[20:14] <mfa298> cm13g09: pong
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[21:16] <Geoff-G8DHE> Some might like this http://www.airpano.com/360Degree-VirtualTour.php?3D=Plesetsk-Cosmodrome-Angara-Russia
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[21:28] Action: SpeedEvil ponders the design of a hexacopter.
[21:28] <SpeedEvil> That can lift 20 tons and catch a falling object at 200MPH
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[21:28] <SpeedEvil> (falcon 9 first stage)
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[21:43] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03DA1 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?focus=DA1
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[21:44] <chrisstubbs> Geoff-G8DHE, thats like pano-porn
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[21:44] <chrisstubbs> the video is awesome
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[21:54] <Geoff-G8DHE> Airpano are a brilliant team its well worth looking around there other stuff, which include a balloon flight as well!
[21:55] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://www.airpano.com/360Degree-VirtualTour.php?3D=Stratosphere
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[22:02] <Lunar_Lander> cool
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[22:13] <x-f> Geoff-G8DHE, dl-fldigi controls SDR-Radio's frequency - using your instructions, thanks!
[22:13] <Upu> link to that ?
[22:13] <x-f> now 3Z0TECH just needs to get closer to test it in action
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[22:13] <x-f> he posted rigcat XML files for dl-fldigi
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> z-f, Great it makes tracking much easier!
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Upu, was that to me which link ?
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[22:13] <Upu> dl-fldigi -> SDR
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> Oh right, yes obvious now its ....
[22:13] <x-f> i used com0com to create pairs of virtual serial ports
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> http://360.g8dhe.net/HAB_Flights/sdr_test_VFO.zip thinmks that the one
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> yes
[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> haven't come across com0com before
[22:13] <Upu> ta
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[22:13] <Geoff-G8DHE> If I get time I'll stick something on the Wiki as well shortly
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[22:14] <fsphil> is there such a thing as an unexcessive flood
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