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[00:02] <kf7fer> maxmed: You've got a problem with your braces
[00:03] <kf7fer> a bit slow eh?
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[00:05] <kf7fer> never mind... the style of formatting code that you're using is.... well... unusual.
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[00:37] <viner> Why are their so few US antennas on http://habitat.habhub.org/ ?
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[03:00] <miket4972> good evening anyone here?
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[05:46] <x-f> morning
[06:01] <Maxell> *yawn* :)
[06:02] <x-f> wakey wakey!
[06:07] <x-f> guys, we're thinking about doing a launch this Sunday, and i've been monitoring the predictions with each GFS update, they seemed stable, but the last two are with quite big changes - http://i.imgur.com/actunrT.png
[06:08] <x-f> we should make the decision now and the question is - will it keep moving or move back or will it settle down
[06:08] <x-f> the three-day-weather-forecast-rule
[06:11] <Maxell> x-f: roll a dice :)
[06:13] <x-f> Maxell, i would like a more scientific advice :)
[06:15] Nick change: cm13g09_ -> cm13g09
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[07:49] <daveake> x-f It's been changeable for Sat/Sun all week. It'll stay that way in my opinion. I'm canning a flight for that reason (also too close to Heathrow)
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[08:29] <x-f> ok, i think we'll go ahead with the launch for now, we can postpone/cancel it later if needed, if the prediction starts to get close to the sea, capital city (opposite direction for now) or Russian border (far enough)
[08:30] <x-f> right now the only "danger area" is a swamp..
[08:31] <daveake> The problem with variable predictions is that ... they vary. IME the predictions are good at saying what will happen but not so good at when.
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[08:32] <x-f> an anticyclone will be over here starting from Saturday
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[10:11] <Maxell> zap https://i.imgur.com/16Y68am.gif
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[10:12] <LazyLeopard> Ouch
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[10:14] <Maxell> craag_philcrump: New WebSDR APRS DX: 251.6 km 177° F8KGJ-4
[10:15] <Maxell> F8KGJ-4>T8UXQZ,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2,qAR,PD1ODE-1:'vA<0x1d>l <0x1c>#/]ADRASEC14=
[10:15] <craag_philcrump> :)
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[10:19] <mfa298> so my printer sounds like it's died, maybe I should get one of these to replace it http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Photo/cat/Printers/subcat/Dot-Matrix-Printers
[10:19] <Maxell> "Your ink will gradually fade rather than just stop suddenly half way through a print job, so you'll have plenty of warning when ink needs replacing." :P
[10:20] <mfa298> I also still have a box of A4 tractor feed paper so I won't need to go adding new paper every 20 pages.
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[10:27] <craag_philcrump> lol tractor feed paper..
[10:28] <craag_philcrump> never got jammed!
[10:37] <fsphil> the little ink cartridge would sometimes get jammed
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[10:38] <fsphil> or tear
[10:38] <SiC> dot matrix pritners are still used a lot in accounting and order processing
[10:39] <SiC> quick to print characters, super cheap for bulk and darn reliable (modern ones)
[10:41] <mfa298> and the only type of printer that can handle multisheet pages with carbon copies.
[10:41] <SiC> yea
[10:41] <SiC> the high end ones have built in cutters too
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[10:41] <mfa298> I know one place that only got rid of the large dot matrix printers when the HR system was upgraded and payslips became electronic
[10:43] <daveake> Saw one at a customer last week, still used
[10:43] <SiC> I used to have a inkjet printer that took tractor fed paper
[10:44] <SiC> I'm sure it was dreamt up by a marketing exec back when inkjets were all the rage
[10:44] <SiC> I also remember colour dot-matrix
[10:44] <SiC> lol
[10:51] <mfa298> I did come across a colour dot-matrix once.
[10:53] <daveake> I had one once
[10:54] <daveake> Trying to remember who made it
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[11:03] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03default_chase - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=default_chase
[11:17] <gonzo__> we had a couple of new ones (not colour) go inm the bin recently
[11:18] <gonzo__> could not think of a use for them
[11:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> daveake: I used to sell Epson ones in a computer shop I worked in. Pretty good at the time.
[11:19] <daveake> Yeah this wasn't Epson
[11:19] <daveake> Oh, "Star"
[11:19] <Steve_G0TDJ> Panasonic? They made them
[11:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> Star, yes, very popular
[11:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> I had a B&W one myself
[11:20] <Steve_G0TDJ> brb
[11:21] <gonzo__> rs232 as well
[11:22] <mfa298> rs232 printer, surely you just then need a small radio interface and you've got an alternative to dl-fldigi
[11:22] <gonzo__> think they were error reporting printers, but were surplus, so into the bin theywent
[11:22] <gonzo__> that is acyual;ly true. I did think of putting a baudot interface on it. but life os too short
[11:22] <gonzo__> (and I have a tty for that)
[11:24] <daveake> this needs to be done
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[11:24] <daveake> hab --> teletype or something
[11:24] <Steve_G0TDJ> That would be very cool!
[11:25] <daveake> clunky clunky clunk ... ah the memories of setting off prints on a roomful of teletypes then legging it
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[11:29] <Laurenceb_> https://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458
[11:31] <lz1dev> thx microsoft
[11:35] <tweetBot1> @thecraag: We have our NOTAM for @emfcamp ! http://t.co/qEDJ21S9Cx #ukhas
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[13:05] <Laurenceb_> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/28/samsung_gear_s_announced_to_pip_iwatch/
[13:05] <Laurenceb_> impressive specs
[13:08] <mattbrejza> except the battery life
[13:08] <mattbrejza> also why not just BT back to the phone rathr than having 3G :/
[13:09] <Laurenceb_> yeah its a micro smartphone
[13:09] <Laurenceb_> pretty impressive
[13:09] <Laurenceb_> but also mental
[13:10] <mattbrejza> impressive theyve sqeezed it all in, but not sure why you would buy one
[13:11] <Laurenceb_> to put on a balloon obviously
[13:11] <mattbrejza> or cubesat
[13:12] <daveake> $500sat
[13:12] <mattbrejza> +- 500%
[13:14] <craag_philcrump> $500ISHsat
[13:15] <mattbrejza> also i doubt that thing is less than $500
[13:19] <zyp> mattbrejza, «so you don't have to lug your phone around while you're training» is what my friend argues
[13:20] <zyp> there's plenty of BT watches already if you would rather have that
[13:20] <mattbrejza> hmm i guess it makes sense to try something different
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[13:23] <mfa298> mattbrejza: but then based on what was said for $50Sat you could probably spend $5000 for a $500Sat
[13:24] <daveake> yup
[13:25] <gonzo__> what's this battery life comment 'real watches go years before needing a trip to the repair shop'?! think someone need to learn a little about power budgets
[13:25] <gonzo__> and the prooability of it bein g rechargable
[13:26] <mfa298> ah but real watches are rechargable - you did it every morning when you wound it up.
[13:26] <mfa298> but that only took ~30s to recharge the phone for a whole day :)
[13:27] <gonzo__> or the inertia wound ones. Though give one of them to a 15yr old and it will be overwound in the morning
[13:27] <mfa298> s/phone/watch
[13:31] <cm13g09> afternoon mfa298
[13:31] <mfa298> afternoon cm13g09
[13:31] <cm13g09> mfa298: see PM
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[14:15] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03N2NXZ-7 after 0316 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=N2NXZ-7
[14:16] <tweetBot1> @stratodean: 50% of us will be at @emfcamp this weekend. Looking forward to it! #ukhas
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[14:55] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_CE1 after 0320 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=PI_CE1
[14:59] <craag_philcrump> 50% of amsat-uk twitter is ukhas stuff
[15:00] <craag_philcrump> navrac_M6VKK: :)
[15:01] <daveake> :)
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[15:22] <Steve_M6SNK> Hi All - I am interested in coming along to a launch and chase at somepoint preferably using a 500g+ balloon and localish to Camberley. If anyone is launching on a weekend over the next few months and doesnt mind me tagging along please let me know.
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[15:26] <chrisstubbs> Steve_M6SNK, are you subscribed to the mailing list?
[15:26] <chrisstubbs> Best thing to do is get yourself on there and when a launch in you area pops up, send the launcher a message
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[15:26] <Steve_M6SNK> Yes I think so - I need to check it though :)
[15:26] <alastair_> hello
[15:26] <Steve_M6SNK> Will do thanks for the tip
[15:27] <alastair_> I'm using this kind of tape for making my payload box: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Duct-tape.jpg/220px-Duct-tape.jpg
[15:27] <chrisstubbs> No problem, you can set it to have updates sent to you via email on a daily (and weekly I think) basis, however some flight are only announced a day or so in advance
[15:27] <daveake> Or 30 minutes after :/
[15:27] <chrisstubbs> lol
[15:28] <alastair_> however, I also need to use a transparent tape for other things on it, http://www.interplas.com/product_images/1000/Scotch-Box-Sealing-Tape-375-Clear-48mmx50m-36-per-case-Bulk.jpg
[15:28] <daveake> but those aren't latex
[15:28] <alastair_> do these survive in the stratosphere?
[15:28] <chrisstubbs> The duct tape will be fine
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[15:28] <daveake> Latter isn't that sticky so you might need to tape over the edges with duct tape
[15:29] <alastair_> daveake, what do you mean?
[15:29] <daveake> I've used something similar above light sensors
[15:29] <daveake> It didn't stick well to the foam
[15:29] <daveake> Whereas duct tape sticks to anything
[15:29] <alastair_> Actually I need it not for making the styrofoam box
[15:30] <alastair_> but for sticking a "call X if found" on it
[15:30] <alastair_> ordinary paper
[15:30] <chrisstubbs> Even duct tape strugges to stick to some foam (maybe its just my cheap stuff), but sticks well to itself. So go for a complete coat if you have difficulty.
[15:31] <daveake> For the address label, I laminate mine (in case of watery landing) then glue to the foam with UGU Por
[15:31] <daveake> Or use a permanent marker pen
[15:31] <daveake> UHU Por
[15:31] <daveake> I don't think UPU sells it :p
[15:32] <alastair_> Ok, but I also need to use it for another thing which is a bit hard to explain. basically I want to know if that kind of tape doesnt peel off from humidity or pressure or something
[15:32] <daveake> It peels off on the ground let alone at altitude
[15:32] <alastair_> what do you mean?
[15:32] <daveake> Exactly what I said
[15:32] <daveake> I've not had much luck with clear tape on foam payloads
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[15:33] <alastair_> but like I said, the clear tape wont be sticking on the foam, but on the duct tape cover which is overing the foam itself
[15:33] <alastair_> if thats what you mean
[15:33] <daveake> Try it
[15:34] <daveake> Maybe my clear tape is rubbish but it's never really worked for me
[15:34] <alastair_> It sticks well to the duct tape, but my question is if something will happen to it in high altitude
[15:38] <daveake> Highly unlikely
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[15:41] <alastair_> OK. I'll make an illustration to show what I need it for, hrd to explain in words...
[15:48] <alastair_> Here: http://i.imgur.com/B2sXyiO.png
[15:48] <Lunar_Lander> hello
[15:49] <alastair_> Do doughnut shaped thing is actually a moon toy I 3d printed
[15:49] <alastair_> the thing which connects it to the payload box is acrylic transparent
[15:49] <alastair_> I want to stick the toy moon to the acrylic stick and film it
[15:49] <alastair_> but keep the semi transparency
[15:50] <daveake> and you want to use clear tape for that?
[15:50] <alastair_> Im thinking of using cyanocrilate glue and also clear tape
[15:50] <daveake> I'd use clear Araldite
[15:51] <daveake> I don't think the tape will help much
[15:51] <craag_philcrump> plus it'd look messy
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[15:52] <daveake> I'd be happier with a bolt - e.g. a nylon bolt
[15:53] <alastair_> never heard of Araktide, The reason i want to add extra clear tape is because I'm not sure the glue will be strong enough to endure the shaking
[15:53] <daveake> epoxy resin
[15:53] <alastair_> or if it will remain at -50C
[15:53] <daveake> The tape will add almost no structural integrity
[15:54] <daveake> As you're 3d-printing it, can't yu9o build an interlock into the 3D part so it has some mechanical connection to the bar?
[15:54] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://www.go-araldite.com/products/epoxy-adhesives/araldite-standard-2-x-15ml-tube
[15:56] <alastair_> The thing is I can't 3d print the acrylic stick connecting it to the payload box. And I cant think of anything which I can 3d print for attaching the toy to the stick without exposing that to the camera (as acrylic is transparent)
[15:56] <Geoff-G8DHE_> or http://www.go-araldite.com/products/araldite-product-selector#r_34_203 which is clear and better for plastic to plastic
[15:57] <alastair_> thanks geoff
[15:57] <daveake> Also, with anything like this, I add in a nylon retaining cord so that if the thing-on-a-stick falls off, it doesn't fly off on its own
[15:57] <alastair_> the point is to add a feel that the toy moon is floating, thats why Im using transparent acrylic in the first place
[15:57] <daveake> sure
[15:57] <daveake> that's been done and it's quite effective
[15:58] <alastair_> What has been done?
[15:58] <daveake> transparent acrylic
[15:58] <daveake> and probably a moon
[15:58] <daveake> most things have been done by now :/
[15:58] <alastair_> Good to know. Are there any photos/videos I could check out to see how they did it?
[15:58] <daveake> Anyway. this is something where safety outranks aesthetics - you have to make sure that you don't drop random objects from the payload
[15:59] <daveake> (I have experience of this and am trying to forget it)
[16:00] <alastair_> OK. So do you remember who did it so I could aks them what they used for gluing/sticking the moon to the acrylic, or photos/videos which could give me a hint?
[16:01] <craag_philcrump> A dollop of araldite onto the rod
[16:02] <craag_philcrump> press pseudo-moon onto the araldite :)
[16:02] <craag_philcrump> (hold for a few hours)
[16:02] <daveake> Then bolt together :)
[16:02] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Trying to pin down detailed construction methods isn't going to get you far, most people don't even know what sorts of plastic they are gluing together!
[16:02] <craag_philcrump> or you could string it by nylon cord between multiple rods?
[16:02] <craag_philcrump> for added floatiness
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[16:03] <Geoff-G8DHE_> The video of the Santa in his sleigh would be a good idea
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[16:03] <craag_philcrump> Yep ^^ look at stratodean's videos
[16:04] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://www.stratodean.co.uk/
[16:04] <alastair_> craag: I've thought about that, but extra rodes add weight, and the strings arent so good in video compared to 1 acrylic rod in my opinion
[16:04] <alastair_> I've seen that. Nice video.
[16:05] <craag_philcrump> Ok, just an idea. Back to araldite + tether (+ bolt?)
[16:06] <alastair_> Im not sure what you mean by using a bolt
[16:07] <daveake> Well they only get used one way
[16:07] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03EMF1 - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=EMF1
[16:08] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Get a reversed thread and you can use it the other way ;-)
[16:08] <daveake> sneaky
[16:08] <daveake> But useful for Oz launches
[16:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Their launches don't count they just drop them I thought ?
[16:09] <alastair_> So you want me to cut a hole in the toy and put the bolt through the hole?
[16:09] <craag_philcrump> If you want more structural integrity than glue - that's the way to do it.
[16:09] <Geoff-G8DHE_> blind hole and tap it then it won't be seen no nut required
[16:09] <daveake> You bolt together the bits that otherwise might fall apart. I'll leave the details up to you.
[16:10] <Geoff-G8DHE_> but use a clear epoxy glue as above and thats backup.
[16:11] <alastair_> Thanks a lot for the idea. But the printed model is not completely opaque either. :(
[16:13] <daveake> I'm sure you could change the 3D design to incorporate something to make a fairly secure connection to the acrylic road. Then the glue does the rest
[16:13] <daveake> rod
[16:13] <Geoff-G8DHE_> http://www.fastenercomponents.com/images/large/plastic_components.jpg
[16:15] <alastair_> Sure, but that would be seen in the video as its not completely opaque
[16:15] <daveake> safety outweighs aesthetics
[16:15] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Well your going to see the rod from the top how are you going to see a clear bolt from the bottom, plus clear epoxy glue,
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[16:16] <Geoff-G8DHE_> how heavy is this moon ?
[16:16] <alastair_> pretty light
[16:17] <alastair_> 30 grams
[16:18] <Geoff-G8DHE_> OK nothing that massive then
[16:19] <alastair_> The glue is pretty good when I test. its just i dont know if it will behave the same way in those conditions
[16:19] <mattbrejza> has anyone made a starwars reference yet?
[16:19] <craag_philcrump> 30 grams - THATS NO MOON!!
[16:19] <mattbrejza> :D
[16:20] <Geoff-G8DHE_> most plastics will get brittle at low temperature
[16:20] <Geoff-G8DHE_> so its more likely that the acrylic rod would snap at burst then anything else, hence need for additonal tethers
[16:21] <alastair_> OK
[16:21] <alastair_> Maybe I should print it in silver next time
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[16:22] <mattbrejza> use arrows as boom arms
[16:22] <mattbrejza> handily one of our group was an archer
[16:22] <mfa298> you might want to check how the 3d printed process works for different types of filament and at low temperatures and possibly more importantly low pressure.
[16:22] <mfa298> most of the 3D printed solid objects I've seen have a lot of air inside which could be a cause for concern
[16:23] <alastair_> They have tiny escape holes
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[16:26] <alastair_> Actually this got me thinking, how do the metal parts you guys use for antennas behave in near space?
[16:26] <Geoff-G8DHE_> LIke metal parts
[16:26] <arko> ^^^
[16:27] <mattbrejza> well one antenna of ours decided it didnt want to be attached to the payload any more
[16:27] <mattbrejza> but that was unrelated to being nearer space
[16:28] <Geoff-G8DHE_> There is a lot of turbulence at burst so rapid changes in direction of parts, so no big masses on the ends of booms without tethers
[16:28] <alastair_> I didnt get what you mean
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[16:29] <daveake> burst is violent
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[16:30] <daveake> just watch a video of one
[16:30] <alastair_> "so no big masses on the ends of booms without tethers"I dont get this
[16:30] <daveake> well imagine what happens to something on he end of a boom if the payload is being thrown around
[16:31] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Change the direction of a mass on the end of a stick, and the stick is most likely to snap!
[16:31] <daveake> I had a boom actually snap
[16:31] <daveake> And that had almost no weight on the end
[16:31] <daveake> So always add a tether
[16:32] <alastair_> OK, what's a "boom"
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[16:33] <Geoff-G8DHE_> Its what you call parts like your acrylic rod that sticks out from a payload of any sort.
[16:34] <Geoff-G8DHE_> the rod is the boom the moon is a mass on the end of it
[16:34] <Laurenceb_> snapping your rod?
[16:34] <Laurenceb_> embarrassing
[16:34] <daveake> I had a balsa wood boom snap
[16:34] <Geoff-G8DHE_> swing the rod violently and its likely to snap especially witha brittle plastic.
[16:34] <daveake> ha
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[17:38] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03B-66 after 032 days silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=B-66
[17:39] <jcoxon> hooray
[17:41] <mattbrejza> \o/
[17:41] <mattbrejza> our emf village will need a big flashing light for when a new B-6* appears
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[17:44] <jcoxon> good plan mattbrejza
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[17:48] <SA6BSS> yay :) go 66!!
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[17:51] <mattbrejza> best korea in its sights
[17:51] <Laurenceb_> new duration record
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[18:01] <arko> love seeing leo's hab scribble across the screeen
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[18:31] <DL7AD> evening
[18:33] <DL7AD> !hysplit B-66
[18:33] <SpacenearUS> 03DL7AD: HYSPLIT for 03B-66 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140828-16_187097_B66.gif
[18:34] <fsphil> mattbrejza: lasers
[18:40] <arko> damn i love that bot
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[18:48] <DL7AD> arko: just not when the data is outdated
[18:48] <DL7AD> ^^
[18:48] <arko> hehe
[18:49] <arko> yeah
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[19:42] <SpacenearUS> New vehicle on the map: 03sp9uob - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=sp9uob
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[22:02] <SpacenearUS> New position from 03PI_CE1 after 037 hours silence - 12http://habhub.org/mt/?filter=PI_CE1
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[22:24] <Lunar_Lander> good night
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[22:25] <Laurenceb__> how are the hysplit traces on the mobile tracker generated?
[22:26] <Laurenceb__> is there a "no graphics" hysplit api?
[22:26] <Laurenceb__> or is the server running the standalone application?
[22:30] <lz1dev> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypub-bin/trajtype.pl
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[23:09] <Laurenceb__> lz1dev: and... ?
[23:10] <lz1dev> and what?
[23:10] <Laurenceb__> well that gives graphs
[23:10] <Laurenceb__> how do you get raw data?
[23:10] <lz1dev> what raw data?
[23:11] <lz1dev> it can make a gif, gis, kml, pdf
[23:11] <lz1dev> and there is a file with the 'raw' data
[23:11] <lz1dev> if you want to parse it
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[23:12] <Laurenceb__> ah kml
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> ok
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> oh
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/tdump.193538.txt
[23:12] <Laurenceb__> i see now, thanks
[23:12] <lz1dev> yep
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> and the rest is HTTP post?
[23:15] <lz1dev> what do you mean?
[23:16] <Laurenceb__> to automate the process
[23:16] <lz1dev> yeh
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[23:19] <Laurenceb__> very nice
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[23:19] <Laurenceb__> http://ready.arl.noaa.gov/hypubout/tdump.193663.txt
[23:19] <Laurenceb__> last column is pressure in hPa ?
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[23:21] <lz1dev> probably
[23:22] <lz1dev> 280 for 10000m sounds about right
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> i see, thanks
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> yeah
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> new prediction for B-64
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> should be over Alaska tomorrow if its still airborne
[23:23] <ulfr_> is b-64 still on the fly?
[23:23] <lz1dev> yep
[23:23] <lz1dev> !ping b-64
[23:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: Last contact with 03B-64 was 035 days ago
[23:23] <Laurenceb__> was a few days ago when it went out of range
[23:23] <lz1dev> !hysplit b-64
[23:23] <SpacenearUS> 03lz1dev: HYSPLIT for 03b-64 - 12http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/140828-22_193380_B64.gif
[23:24] <Laurenceb__> lz1dev: i was thinking of writing a script to log the ambient pressure at the float altitude
[23:24] <Laurenceb__> it changes as the gas is lost
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[23:24] <Laurenceb__> looks fairly easy from those files
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[23:25] <Laurenceb__> is there a log of those hysplit files on the server?
[23:25] <lz1dev> not the txt files
[23:25] <lz1dev> http://spacenear.us/tracker/hysplit_cache/
[23:28] <Laurenceb__> ah
[23:28] <Laurenceb__> no pressure there
[23:28] <Laurenceb__> it will need archive data
[23:29] <Laurenceb__> thanks for the help
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